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Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy
people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee grounds has been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. But how about keeping some orange peels for zesting? And how would one keep them fresh for a couple of days? Anyone admit to tossing last night's leftover gravy into tonight's batch? Useful hints appreciated. Disgusting suggestions taken at face value. Some cultures had hideous practices of burying things and then digging them up later, like duck eggs. And some I won't even mention. How about that vacuum sealing deal? Would that lengthen shelf life? And suggestions about storing leftovers or like the half of the pack of mushrooms you don't use tonight. (I keep them in a sealed zip-lock). Wish I could get SWMBO to do that, as hers turn slimy and brown within a day, and she hasn't caught on yet. She thinks if it has been in the refrigerator, it's safe to eat. No matter how long. Steve |
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Steve B wrote:
> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less > prissy people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee > grounds has been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. > Leftover meats can easily be used in hash. They can also be ground or chopped, mixed with some sautéed onion and perhaps some gravy or broth and wrapped in crepes. Mashed potatoes can be make into patties with added ingredients of your choice (cheese, chopped veggies) and fried. > How about that vacuum sealing deal? Would that lengthen shelf life? Certainly does, by a factor of 3 to 5. |
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![]() "Steve B" > wrote in message ... > Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy > people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee grounds has > been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. > Left over veggies can be used in soups, casseroles, stews. You can save the water you boil potatoes or other veggies in and use it for making stock. You can slow simmer fragrant peels (ie orange peels) to make your kitchen smell nice. Left over rice, you can fry, add to soups, make rice pudding etc. Debbie |
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On Jan 1, 10:15*am, "Steve B" > wrote:
> And suggestions about storing leftovers or like the half of the pack of > mushrooms you don't use tonight.... For all of my cooking years I would either dry, or throw out all of the parsley I could not use as it began the refrigerated limp-to-rot cycle. I certainly could have grown my own, and did for just one season, but my herb gardening impulse did not last. Last month a chef on TV gave example of a simpler parsley chopping...she freezes all washed, fresh parsley to then always have fresh that also chops when frozen much easier and quicker. 'Twas just the encouragement I needed, and I now have various of the wanted fresh herbs in one dedicated to single bags freezer container. The only fresh mushroom keeper I've ever found minimal success with is slicing, then drying, freezing, which I'm not too happy with. I most often want use of 'shrooms raw, so I rarely buy fresh unless I'll be using all immediately. ....Picky |
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![]() "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote > Those Everfresh bags will keep the mushrooms fresh much longer. > > http://www.evertfresh.com/ Been using them. And re using them. And so on. And so on. They work great. Did I say they're reusable? Steve |
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Steve wrote on Fri, 1 Jan 2010 10:15:48 -0800:
> But how about keeping some orange peels for zesting? And how would > one keep them fresh for a couple of days? Anyone admit to tossing > last night's leftover gravy into tonight's batch? > Useful hints appreciated. Disgusting suggestions taken at > face value. Some cultures had hideous practices of burying > things and then digging them up later, like duck eggs. And > some I won't even mention. That's how my Anglo-Saxon and Viking ancestors originally prepared hams. Go down to the beach, dig a whole just below the high tide mark and bury the ham until needed. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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"Steve B" wrote
> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy > people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee grounds has > been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. Sure Steve. Some of these are just for 'family use' where it makes sense but not for guests who might get upset. Save usable peelings and vegetable ends to make stock of. These are fresh bits, just the parts normally discarded. Add carrot bits, onion ends and skins, leek roots, spinach stems, and such to the chicken bone carcass and simmer as normal then strain. Sure you can use carrot middle parts but there's noting wrong with the ends of a fresh carrot frozen up in baggies until you have enough. or use in-family, Don often makes too many ribs. The uneaten ones, get recycled to the crockpot. We are currently recyling lots of an 11lb ham into different things. Thin slivers of it were topped with horseradish and flipped over onto hot green fried tomatoes for lunch. The flour from the green fried tomato dip, is saved to coat catfish tonight then egg and milk will be mixed with it to fry 'hush puppies' along side the fish. |
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![]() "James Silverton" > wrote in message ... > Steve wrote on Fri, 1 Jan 2010 10:15:48 -0800: > >> But how about keeping some orange peels for zesting? And how would one >> keep them fresh for a couple of days? Anyone admit to tossing last >> night's leftover gravy into tonight's batch? > >> Useful hints appreciated. Disgusting suggestions taken at >> face value. Some cultures had hideous practices of burying >> things and then digging them up later, like duck eggs. And >> some I won't even mention. > > That's how my Anglo-Saxon and Viking ancestors originally prepared hams. > Go down to the beach, dig a whole just below the high tide mark and bury > the ham until needed. > > > -- > > James Silverton > Potomac, Maryland > > Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not At that temperature, and with the salinity, it sounds like a good method. Not like a Virginia smoke house ham, but I'd try it. Steve |
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 10:15:48 -0800, "Steve B"
> wrote: >But how about keeping some orange peels for zesting? And how would one keep >them fresh for a couple of days? When I'm making orange peel candy, I save the peels in a baggy in the freezer until I get enough to make a batch. >Anyone admit to tossing last night's leftover gravy into tonight's batch? I did that with my Christmas Eve Dinner Part Deux. I took the leftover gravy and added it to the new. My husband raved about gravy #2. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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Steve B > wrote:
> Some > cultures had hideous practices of burying things and then digging them up > later, like duck eggs. Some cultures still have such practices and it is debatable that they are necessarily hideous. One such example is formaggio di fossa, Fossa cheese, produced in Sogliano al Rubicone, in Romagna. The cheese is matured in deep pits or ditches dug in tufa. The pits are covered with straw and the cheese, wrapped in cloth, is lowered to the bottom on Assumption Day (15th August) and left there until St. Catherine's Day (25th November). While there, the cheese is (partly) eaten by worms. It is said that the practice of burying the cheese started in 1486, when the army of Alfonso of Aragon, son of the king of Naples, was defeated by the French and Alfonso had to seek asylum from Gerolamo Riario, ruler of the city of Forlì. The asylum was granted, but there was now an extra army to feed - and the soldiers turned to pillaging. So, burying the cheese was one way of thwarting them. It was discovered that the cheese improved greatly in its grave, remaining moist and acquiring an aroma, taste and colour all of its own. It is said that a pit or ditch must be used for at least ten years, as only then enough microorganisms accumulate to deliver the best results. The cheese is still very highly prized. Victor |
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Steve B wrote:
> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy > people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee grounds has > been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. > > But how about keeping some orange peels for zesting? And how would one > keep them fresh for a couple of days? Anyone admit to tossing last > night's leftover gravy into tonight's batch? > > Useful hints appreciated. Disgusting suggestions taken at face value. > Some cultures had hideous practices of burying things and then digging > them up later, like duck eggs. And some I won't even mention. > > How about that vacuum sealing deal? Would that lengthen shelf life? > > And suggestions about storing leftovers or like the half of the pack of > mushrooms you don't use tonight. (I keep them in a sealed zip-lock). > Wish I could get SWMBO to do that, as hers turn slimy and brown within a > day, and she hasn't caught on yet. She thinks if it has been in the > refrigerator, it's safe to eat. No matter how long. Chinese cooking contains a sauce called "Master Sauce." You simmer meat in the stuff, then serve the meat with only the sauce which clings to it. The remainder of the sauce is used repeatedly in that same way, with a few sauce ingredients getting replenished from time to time. Using the sauce over and over that way, it's possible for a Master Sauce to be passed from generation to generation. Frying oil is usually filtered and used at least a second time; sometimes restaurants will use the same frying oil for weeks at a time. The personal fryers like Om has are intended as storage vessels for the oil between uses. The trick with orange peels is to remove the zest BEFORE you peel the orange. It's a lot easier that way, and the zest can be frozen or dehydrated. Normally you wouldn't want the pith, although there are some rare exceptions (e.g., cranberry-orange relish, Chinese orange/tangerine beef, and some meat salads). Bob |
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![]() There's always chili... which can be made as a wonderful chili, or made as "the garbage disposal for all the leftovers in the kitchen". -J |
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On Jan 1, 8:30*pm, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote: > Steve B wrote: > > Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy > > people will keep instead of tossing. *Using once brewed coffee grounds has > > been mentioned. *Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. > > > But how about keeping some orange peels for zesting? *And how would one > > keep them fresh for a couple of days? *Anyone admit to tossing last > > night's leftover gravy into tonight's batch? > > > Useful hints appreciated. *Disgusting suggestions taken at face value.. > > Some cultures had hideous practices of burying things and then digging > > them up later, like duck eggs. *And some I won't even mention. > > > How about that vacuum sealing deal? *Would that lengthen shelf life? > > > And suggestions about storing leftovers or like the half of the pack of > > mushrooms you don't use tonight. *(I keep them in a sealed zip-lock). > > Wish I could get SWMBO to do that, as hers turn slimy and brown within a > > day, and she hasn't caught on yet. *She thinks if it has been in the > > refrigerator, it's safe to eat. *No matter how long. > > Chinese cooking contains a sauce called "Master Sauce." You simmer meat in > the stuff, then serve the meat with only the sauce which clings to it. The > remainder of the sauce is used repeatedly in that same way, with a few sauce > ingredients getting replenished from time to time. Using the sauce over and > over that way, it's possible for a Master Sauce to be passed from generation > to generation. > > Frying oil is usually filtered and used at least a second time; sometimes > restaurants will use the same frying oil for weeks at a time. The personal > fryers like Om has are intended as storage vessels for the oil between uses. When I worked at the donut shop I worked at for 8 years full time in the 1980's, we filtered our frying fat daily, but never replaced it 100%. But then again, we went though enough new added fat through the daily production process that the percentage of really old fat in the fryer was most certainly quite low. Probably gave our donuts their characteristic flavor too! YUMMY! John Kuthe... |
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Soups! All sorts of soups. Cream of potato, minestrone, various chicken,
beef and turkey soups. It's also a great chance to weave in the tired vegs in the hydrator. Also stale homemade bread becomes garlic croutons to put into the soups. jh |
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![]() "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote > Frying oil is usually filtered and used at least a second time; sometimes > restaurants will use the same frying oil for weeks at a time. The personal > fryers like Om has are intended as storage vessels for the oil between > uses. I filter mine, and have a gallon jar in the garage fridge with CHICKEN and FISH marked on them. I use paper paint filters. Steve |
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Steve B wrote:
> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy > people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee grounds has > been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. > > But how about keeping some orange peels for zesting? I zest them before peeling -- easier that way -- and freeze the zest, when I think of it. > Anyone admit to tossing last night's > leftover gravy into tonight's batch? No, but I've mixed it into a batch of hash the next day. Serene -- "I tend to come down on the side of autonomy. Once people are grown up, I believe they have the right to go to hell in the handbasket of their choosing." -- Pat Kight, on alt.polyamory |
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On Jan 1, 1:15*pm, "Steve B" > wrote:
> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy > people will keep instead of tossing. *Using once brewed coffee grounds has > been mentioned. *Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. > > But how about keeping some orange peels for zesting? *And how would one keep > them fresh for a couple of days? *Anyone admit to tossing last night's > leftover gravy into tonight's batch? > > Useful hints appreciated. *Disgusting suggestions taken at face value. *Some > cultures had hideous practices of burying things and then digging them up > later, like duck eggs. *And some I won't even mention. > > How about that vacuum sealing deal? *Would that lengthen shelf life? > > And suggestions about storing leftovers or like the half of the pack of > mushrooms you don't use tonight. *(I keep them in a sealed zip-lock). *Wish > I could get SWMBO to do that, as hers turn slimy and brown within a day, and > she hasn't caught on yet. *She thinks if it has been in the refrigerator, > it's safe to eat. *No matter how long. > > Steve I peel an orange now and then, dry the skin in my dehydrator, then run it thru a coffee grinder and store in a small Rubbermaid. It keeps for ages and good to toss into muffins etc. Ditto for lemon peel. I dump mushrooms into a plain brown paper bag the second they get home - they seem to keep pretty well. If there's a better way, I wanna know. I swear by Debbie Meyer green bags for keeping produce. Romaine lasts for weeks. |
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 06:58:59 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote: >I swear by Debbie Meyer green bags for keeping produce. Romaine lasts >for weeks. Romaine is practically indestructible and I don't even use those bags. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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![]() "Steve B" wrote > Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy > people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee grounds has > been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. > I'm really curious to know what you can do with used coffee grounds....our bin is usually overflowing with them! |
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:58:55 -0000, "caroline" >
wrote: > >"Steve B" wrote >> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy >> people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee grounds has >> been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. >> > >I'm really curious to know what you can do with used coffee grounds....our >bin is usually overflowing with them! > Coffee grounds make good compost. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:58:55 -0000, "caroline" >
wrote: > >"Steve B" wrote >> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less prissy >> people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee grounds has >> been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. >> > >I'm really curious to know what you can do with used coffee grounds....our >bin is usually overflowing with them! > Do I hear a worm farm calling your name? -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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caroline wrote:
> "Steve B" wrote >> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less >> prissy people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed >> coffee grounds has been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't >> qualify. > > I'm really curious to know what you can do with used coffee > grounds....our bin is usually overflowing with them! Compost. Good for some plants too. Put some around the roses, bury a couple of banana peels too. Don't forget the fish heads, but bury them deep enough that cats don't bother them. |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" wrote > caroline wrote: >> "Steve B" wrote >>> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less >>> prissy people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed >>> coffee grounds has been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't >>> qualify. >> >> I'm really curious to know what you can do with used coffee >> grounds....our bin is usually overflowing with them! > > Compost. Good for some plants too. Put some around the roses, bury a > couple of banana peels too. Don't forget the fish heads, but bury them > deep enough that cats don't bother them. Thanks all! Never thought of that, duh! The fish heads are no problem, hubby is a fish farmer! And they'd be very brave cats around here...with 6 dogs <grin> |
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![]() "The Cook" > wrote in message ... > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:58:55 -0000, "caroline" > > wrote: > >> >>"Steve B" wrote >>> Can you give some examples of the use of left overs or things less >>> prissy >>> people will keep instead of tossing. Using once brewed coffee grounds >>> has >>> been mentioned. Twice cooked potatos don't qualify. >>> >> >>I'm really curious to know what you can do with used coffee grounds....our >>bin is usually overflowing with them! >> > > Coffee grounds make good compost. > -- > Susan N. And if you have worms in there for fishing, you don't have to dig. The poor little things are going every direction at once. Can't seem to stop moving. Sorry, just had to do it. Steve |
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