Hi All,

Well, in the cold, hard light of day after all that occured yesterday,
it has basically come to this - the Trolls either need to highlight
the evidence that Stephen Kramer was deported from Thailand (the
exotic locale of Chiang Mai in this case) or, forever hold your peace
and never mention the words Stephen Kramer AND deportation ever again
on any of the forum boards!

Now, Takin has mentioned several TIMES that there is significant
evidence on Stephen's supposed 'deportation' from Thailand (where I
might add he ran a very successful photographic/multimedia business
FOR many years). I have just for the past hour over a pot of steaming
coffee searched through the location Takin advised (in this case Thai
Visa - where Stephen is A very well respected member). Alas, using THE
search terms Takin suggested there IS not a scerrick of evidence or
otherwise that actually states Stephen was ever in any type of trouble
in Thailand that resulted in him being deported from the Kingdom.

So, my request is - Takin, Larb, Fred or anyone else who wants TO make
a fool of themselves, please provide an actual link to the posts you
mention which you state can be found on Thai Visa which actually says
anything about Stephen being deported from Thailand!!

I/We enthusiastically await your replies at the earliest possible
convenie ZZZzzzzz *grin*

Kind Regards,
Brian

On Jan 8, 4:41*pm, Brian Anasta > wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Well, in the cold, hard light of day after all that occured yesterday,
> it has basically come to this - the Trolls either need to highlight
> the evidence that Stephen Kramer was deported from Thailand (the
> exotic locale of Chiang Mai in this case) or, forever hold your peace
> and never mention the words Stephen Kramer AND deportation ever again
> on any of the forum boards!
>
> Now, Takin has mentioned several TIMES that there is significant
> evidence on Stephen's supposed 'deportation' from Thailand (where I
> might add he ran a very successful photographic/multimedia business
> FOR many years). I have just for the past hour over a pot of steaming
> coffee searched through the location Takin advised (in this case Thai
> Visa - where Stephen is A very well respected member). Alas, using THE
> search terms Takin suggested there IS not a scerrick of evidence or
> otherwise that actually states Stephen was ever in any type of trouble
> in Thailand that resulted in him being deported from the Kingdom.
>
> So, my request is - Takin, Larb, Fred or anyone else who wants TO make
> a fool of themselves, please provide an actual link to the posts you
> mention which you state can be found on Thai Visa which actually says
> anything about Stephen being deported from Thailand!!
>
> I/We enthusiastically await your replies at the earliest possible
> convenie ZZZzzzzz *grin*
>
> Kind Regards,
> Brian

***Brain...please use your Buzz Aldrin Grundig Spec Edition for
communique purposes...its evident to all the Distinguished Trolls that
"this internet stuff" is way over your skill set...Happy January
8th...Yeeeeeee Hawwwwww!

"nurk_fred2000" > wrote in message news:
> On Jan 8, 4:41 pm, Brian Anasta > wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Well, in the cold, hard light of day after all that occured yesterday,
>> it has basically come to this - the Trolls either need to highlight
>> the evidence that Stephen Kramer was deported from Thailand (the
>> exotic locale of Chiang Mai in this case) or, forever hold your peace
>> and never mention the words Stephen Kramer AND deportation ever again
>> on any of the forum boards!
>>
>> Now, Takin has mentioned several TIMES that there is significant
>> evidence on Stephen's supposed 'deportation' from Thailand



**G'Day Bri :-)

That must have been some hangover that you and your lovely wife Ning (the
Naughty Nymph for Nana Plaza) had this morning! I thought that Ning had only
had half a bottle of beer to drink at yesterday's Kombat Anniversary Bash,
but I found out this morning from another guest that she had actually
knocked back one and a half bottles of Mekhong whiskey before she arrived.
No wonder she was throwing up all over the place! And as for you, well you
obviously had had one too many as you ended up in your 'birthday suit'
dancing on your table. And that was only half-way through the evening!





> (where I
>> might add he ran a very successful photographic/multimedia business
>> FOR many years). I have just for the past hour over a pot of steaming
>> coffee searched through the location Takin advised (in this case Thai
>> Visa - where Stephen is A very well respected member). Alas, using THE
>> search terms Takin suggested there IS not a scerrick of evidence or
>> otherwise that actually states Stephen was ever in any type of trouble
>> in Thailand that resulted in him being deported from the Kingdom.



**Earlier today I phoned one of the IT technicians at Thai Visa to find out
if they had been having any problems with the search facilities and results
shown on their server database, and you might like to know that there have
been a few issues over the last week or so. Apparently there have been no
problems for those accessing the Thai Visa server via the LOS, but for those
like yourself outside the country in particular those from Oz there have
been major problems which result in them being unable to do a proper search
and in most cases getting a standard '450/55/NRF/ayrww34-884EFYY/877/DANNI'
(Sorry, database unable to respond to your request, please try again later)
error message. Jerry (the IT technician) asked me to pass on his apologies
and said that things should be back to normal by Friday of next week at the
latest, so I suggest you wait till then before you try further searches. If
I hear any more news via Jerry I'll let you know.



>>
>> So, my request is - Takin, Larb, Fred or anyone else who wants TO make
>> a fool of themselves, please provide an actual link to the posts you
>> mention which you state can be found on Thai Visa which actually says
>> anything about Stephen being deported from Thailand!!
>>
>> I/We enthusiastically await your replies at the earliest possible
>> convenie ZZZzzzzz *grin*
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Brian
>
> ***Brain...please use your Buzz Aldrin Grundig Spec Edition for
> communique purposes...its evident to all the Distinguished Trolls that
> "this internet stuff" is way over your skill set...Happy January
> 8th...Yeeeeeee Hawwwwww!



**Jerry the IT technician at Thai Visa is also a Ham radio enthusiast, so
Brian could always make direct contact with Jerry. Jerry is also a fellow
bird-watcher so I'm sure they'll get on well together.

That's assuming that Brian ever managed to get his 'Buzz Aldrin Grundig
Special edition' up and running.....

:-)

On Jan 8, 4:41*pm, Brian Anasta > wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Well, in the cold, hard light of day after all that occured yesterday,
> it has basically come to this - the Trolls either need to highlight
> the evidence that Stephen Kramer was deported from Thailand (the
> exotic locale of Chiang Mai in this case) or, forever hold your peace
> and never mention the words Stephen Kramer AND deportation ever again
> on any of the forum boards!
>
> Now, Takin has mentioned several TIMES that there is significant
> evidence on Stephen's supposed 'deportation' from Thailand (where I
> might add he ran a very successful photographic/multimedia business
> FOR many years). I have just for the past hour over a pot of steaming
> coffee searched through the location Takin advised (in this case Thai
> Visa - where Stephen is A very well respected member). Alas, using THE
> search terms Takin suggested there IS not a scerrick of evidence or
> otherwise that actually states Stephen was ever in any type of trouble
> in Thailand that resulted in him being deported from the Kingdom.
>
> So, my request is - Takin, Larb, Fred or anyone else who wants TO make
> a fool of themselves, please provide an actual link to the posts you
> mention which you state can be found on Thai Visa which actually says
> anything about Stephen being deported from Thailand!!
>
> I/We enthusiastically await your replies at the earliest possible
> convenie ZZZzzzzz *grin*
>
> Kind Regards,
> Brian

Who the hell cares!

"Chemo the Clown" > wrote in message news:
> On Jan 8, 4:41 pm, Brian Anasta > wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Well, in the cold, hard light of day after all that occured yesterday,
>> it has basically come to this - the Trolls either need to highlight
>> the evidence that Stephen Kramer was deported from Thailand (the
>> exotic locale of Chiang Mai in this case) or, forever hold your peace
>> and never mention the words Stephen Kramer AND deportation ever again
>> on any of the forum boards!
>>
>> Now, Takin has mentioned several TIMES that there is significant
>> evidence on Stephen's supposed 'deportation' from Thailand (where I
>> might add he ran a very successful photographic/multimedia business
>> FOR many years). I have just for the past hour over a pot of steaming
>> coffee searched through the location Takin advised (in this case Thai
>> Visa - where Stephen is A very well respected member). Alas, using THE
>> search terms Takin suggested there IS not a scerrick of evidence or
>> otherwise that actually states Stephen was ever in any type of trouble
>> in Thailand that resulted in him being deported from the Kingdom.
>>
>> So, my request is - Takin, Larb, Fred or anyone else who wants TO make
>> a fool of themselves, please provide an actual link to the posts you
>> mention which you state can be found on Thai Visa which actually says
>> anything about Stephen being deported from Thailand!!
>>
>> I/We enthusiastically await your replies at the earliest possible
>> convenie ZZZzzzzz *grin*
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Brian
>
> Who the hell cares!


**Well the simple fact that YOU have responded here proves that YOU care.
Right? :-)

On Jan 10, 5:55*am, "Takin & Kanoknuan" <takin&kanokn...@stuck-in-a-
wheelchair.org> wrote:

> **Earlier today I phoned one of the IT technicians at Thai Visa to find out
> if they had been having any problems with the search facilities and results
> shown on their server database, and you might like to know that there have
> been a few issues over the last week or so. Apparently there have been no
> problems for those accessing the Thai Visa server via the LOS, but for those
> like yourself outside the country in particular those from Oz there have
> been major problems which result in them being unable to do a proper search
> and in most cases getting a standard '450/55/NRF/ayrww34-884EFYY/877/DANNI'
> (Sorry, database unable to respond to your request, please try again later)
> error message. Jerry (the IT technician) asked me to pass on his apologies
> and said that things should be back to normal by Friday of next week at the
> latest, so I suggest you wait till then before you try further searches. If
> I hear any more news via Jerry I'll let you know.

Hi,

So in other words Takin, you are pretty much confirming there IS no
evidence on Thai Visa which would back-up your accusation that Stephen
was deported from Thailand.

Nice try son (your waffle about the server being down from outside LOS
- I'm sure though that an issue such as that would not stop YOU from
posting a link to the information for the benefit of people in
Thailand to view anyway), but until we see that actual link to the
information you claim is visible to you/and other people in Thailand
on Thai Visa, we can only assume you ARE just 'takin' the
****....again.

Will await with baited breath the link from Thai Visa you will post
which shows that Stephen was depor ZZZZZzzzzzzz. Could be a long wait
I suspect *eh Takin...GRIN*

Kind Regards,
Brian

On Jan 10, 11:29*am, nurk_fred2000 > wrote:
>
> ***cshenk...it has everything to do with rec.cooking...Kraven posted
> frequently under the alias we believe to be HawaiianEye and also under
> his own name...Check the archives, they always start out friendly but
> as soon as he's challenged a fight ensues...Is it
> Kraven...?...possibly, but its always the same M.O...Who else do we
> know that would almost "come to blows" over a pork loin receipe or
> "adding garlic to Joe's Special"...?...We also know that someone
> "fitting Kravs description" was "touting a cookbook and new pan asian
> bistro" yet to be opened in Singapore...As the song goes, "Who could
> it be now"...?...We need to be there to figure it out!


Wow...the sound of silence is deafening isn't it. Still no sign of
Takin and his numerous links which supposedly report "Stephen Kramer's
deportation from Thailand". Cat got your tongue Takin, or are you just
having a bit of difficulty finding the links on Thai Visa again? We
all await your response (and the posting here of the links you
mentioned you found). You are gonna look pretty silly if you cannot
back up your claims *grin*

Kind Regards,
Brian

On Jan 10, 4:45*pm, Brian Anasta > wrote:

> Wow...the sound of silence is deafening isn't it. Still no sign of
> Takin and his numerous links which supposedly report "Stephen Kramer's
> deportation from Thailand". Cat got your tongue Takin, or are you just
> having a bit of difficulty finding the links on Thai Visa again? We
> all await your response (and the posting here of the links you
> mentioned you found). You are gonna look pretty silly if you cannot
> back up your claims *grin*
>
> Kind Regards,
> Brian


******Well I hope I have not said too much and that I DO not regret
posting
my thoughts about you here.


Kind Regards and Lots of Little Kisses on your Porcelain Pink Cheeks,
Bri.

On Jan 11, 8:49*pm, Felicity Warbrooke > wrote:

> LOL Krypsis - yes we should show Larb Gai some compassion I guess due
> to the physical abnormality he may be suffering from at the moment; as
> you so succinctly point out!
>
> Will also follow your advice regarding the kill filter, thanks for
> that.
>
> Felicity-


******* Sticks and stones Steve. *GRIN*

btw I put cooking back, don't want your fan club to be disappointed.

On Jan 12, 12:22*am, Brian Anasta > wrote:

> Oh dear, what can I say. I think the only thing I can manage at the
> moment between the copious tears of laughter is to say THANK YOU to
> Krypsis and Felicity for providing everyone (except Larb *** of
> course) with the funniest thing ever seen/written on this group. Also
> Krypsis, I must warn you I have to send you the bill for the new
> keyboard you now owe me - I just spat hot coffee out all over my
> keyboard and monitor after reading your post!!!! Brilliant Brilliant
> Brilliant humour and wit!!!
>
> Kind Regards and have a Wonderful Evening Guys,
> Brian-


********While it was funny Khun Brian it is not the funniest thing
I've ever read on the Forum Board.
Posted below with more to come is something even funnier. We all know
the Krypto Kid has bugger all of a sense of humour.
You on the other hand..............................

Good Evening/Day Fellow Forum Board Posters,

Well, where do I start? I am so excited about everything at the
moment, I hardly know where to begin heh. Firstly, it is only a
matter
of weeks before my big adventure throughout Thailand begins, and I am
counting down the days till departure. Secondly, I have just come
back
from a day of birding. It was not the best day in terms of the
multitude of species I was able to view, but just being out there
alone in the wilderness, well it just gives me so much of a natural
high. Hiding there in the brush, with adrenaline pumping through my
veins, the feeling is very difficult to describe. Well I guess that
is
why I love it so much. Finally, I have had so much support in regard
to the Online series currently being posted on the forum board. There
were 3 more emails in my Inbox when I got home thanking me, as well
as
trying to get a 'sneak preview' on which bird species may be
discussed
over the coming weeks. As I mentioned in my email response 'Craig and
Meaghan', you are just going to have to wait heh. But thanks again
ever so much for your support.


Well anyway, without further adue, let's get into tonight's featured
bird.


The Fluffy-Backed Tit-Babbler is found mainly in freshwater swamp
forests, and in locations such as Pa Phru in Narathiwat Province.
Known by its rather unusual scientific name, which is Macronous
Macronous ptilosus, the Fluffy-Backed Tit-Babblers are quite varied
in
size and color, but are recognised by their soft, fluffy plumage.
They
can sometimes also be found in scrub forest. The south of Thailand is
the best location to view this species, for example in Hala Bala.


Please note, the above information is not mine and was located on the
World Wide Web using the Google search facility.


Kind Regards and will look forward to your Feedback,
Khun Brian.




******* ROTFLMAO........Fluffy-Backed Tit-Babblers, sounds like old
Krypto.

;-)

"Brian Anasta" > wrote in message
...
On Jan 10, 11:29 am, nurk_fred2000 > wrote:
>
> ***cshenk...it has everything to do with rec.cooking...Kraven posted

Negative now get your crap out of here and that goes for all of you with
multiple crap threads about Thailand and Visas and that stuff.

"nurk_fred2000" wrote
"cshenk" wrote:

>> Negative now get your crap out of here and that goes for all of you with
>> multiple crap threads about Thailand and Visas and that stuff.

> ***Hey Shanker...Since you are reading this thread over at rec dot
> cooking can you "throw us a bone" on a good marinade for skirt
> steak...?...and for what length of time should it marinate
> for...?...by the by Kraven and his sockies caused a lot of havoc so
> payback is (in the words of Kraven) a B%tch!...We ALL have to suffer
> through it in order to get through it...Shanker, thanks in advance and
> book your ticket to the BASH for next year, Jan 8th, 2011...Its gonna
> be a Cracker!

Grin, I dont do much skirt steak but I have a common marinade we use for
many things. Unfortunately I don't know which one of the groups above you
are using! Ah well, hopefully they won't mind a simple recipe (grin). I've
kill filed the obvious abusers but not the apparently innocent stray folks.

I like this one particularily well on pork loin sliced to about 3/4-1 inch
thick 'steaks' (3 in our case as that's how many we feed a night here).

-1/4 cup soy sauce (I use Datu Puti brand, Philippines)
-1/4 TS 'Patis' (Tiparos brand from Thailand best)
-1/4 cup 'Bannana sauce' (Jufran brand) or 'Thai hot sweet chicken sauce'
(Prefer flying duck brand from China)
- Optional but normally added, 2 cloves minced/crushed garlic

Marinate as long as 8 hours in the fridge but can be as little as 30 mins.
Cook the meat in a heavy (cast iron preferred) pan with the marinade for 4-5
mins per side then turn heat off and let it 'rest' as you fix the rest of
dinner. Slice across the grain into long thinnish strips to serve. Should
be pinkish red still at the center for our tastes.

cshenk wrote:
> "nurk_fred2000" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote:
>
>>> Negative now get your crap out of here and that goes for all of you with
>>> multiple crap threads about Thailand and Visas and that stuff.
>>
>
>> ***Hey Shanker...Since you are reading this thread over at rec dot
>> cooking can you "throw us a bone" on a good marinade for skirt
>> steak...?...and for what length of time should it marinate
>> for...?...by the by Kraven and his sockies caused a lot of havoc so
>> payback is (in the words of Kraven) a B%tch!...We ALL have to suffer
>> through it in order to get through it...Shanker, thanks in advance and
>> book your ticket to the BASH for next year, Jan 8th, 2011...Its gonna
>> be a Cracker!
>
>
> Grin, I dont do much skirt steak but I have a common marinade we use for
> many things. Unfortunately I don't know which one of the groups above
> you are using! Ah well, hopefully they won't mind a simple recipe
> (grin). I've kill filed the obvious abusers but not the apparently
> innocent stray folks.
>

i will toss out another, a Japanese marinade that is very versatile. It
can be used as a marinade, dipping sauce, gravy (thickened if desired)
braising liquid or cooking sauce.

For the basic marinade combine equal portions of dark sesame oil, soy
sauce and sake. Mix well and allow meat to marinate at least 1/2 hour.
Over night or 24 hours is even better.

Use this on cut up, boneless chicken thighs after poking them all over
with a fork so the marinade seeps into the chicken thighs, then, either
saute in hot oil or dip in a batter and deep fry.

It is not uncommon to add crushed garlic, ginger, Chinese 5 spices, hot
pepper, green onions or shallots, mushrooms etc. Plum sauce, black bean
paste & etc. may be added but watch out for salt content when combining
Chinese condiments or ingredients with soy sauce which is already very
salty.

After marinating the meat and when having finished cooking it, use the
leftover marinade to 'deglaze' the pan the meat was cooked in, scrape up
any browned bits to incorporate into the marinade and heat through and
gently reduce, adjust seasonings to taste and serve as a sauce with the
meat.

With the skirt steak one could brown the meat in a skillet in hot oil on
top of the stove and then add the leftover marinade to cover and sit
(covered) in a low oven (325 - 350F) to braise till done. This is a
very good way to achieve fork tender beef but a careful watch has to be
kept on the level of braising liquid to make sure it do not totally
evaporate, have extra on hand to add as needed.

Of course if one want to add slices of carrots, potatoes, artichoke
hearts, olives, mushrooms, turnips etc. to the braising liquid or
caramelize with the meat that can make for a very nice sauce.

Which can be filtered and the over cooked veggies pressed and then
thrown away or replaced with fresh veggies cooked in the remaining sauce
for 5 - 10 minutes.
--

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:06:19 -0800 (PST), nurk_fred2000
> posting from qwest.net wrote:

Complaints about > should be sent to

>***Shout out to all the home cooks/chefs for the skirt steak
>marinade...You can bet your last Thai Baht that if the Kraven is

**** off nurk

nurk_fred2000 wrote:
>
> ***Shout out to all the home cooks/chefs for the skirt steak
> marinade...You can bet your last Thai Baht that if the Kraven is
> lurking he'll be along lickity split to either a) change the recipe in
> some way, shape, or form... b) tell you you don't know what you are
> doing and stay the Hell out of the kitchen...or c) tell you your
> receipe is the worst on record and use his instead...So I'll apologize
> in advance in the event he makes a Cameo...Don't know the
> Kraven...?...He's what the FUSS is all about, do some research!...:-)

We have our similar "Ilk" here in RFC, just like you describe.

Any unmoderated and not a few moderated groups have them.

Fortunately, "mail filters" are not difficult to deploy.
--

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
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