Can bagels be made using pizza dough?

alkem

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>Can bagels be made using pizza dough?
>
Of course.

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:21:23 -0500, wrote:

>Can bagels be made using pizza dough?
>
You can use a pizza like dough. I wouldn't use olive oil. Google
recipes for soft pretzels and include "kids" in your search term
because the simpler, the better. Here's one for you, but there are
many. I have no idea where my soft pretzel recipe is, but it was
similar to this one. I don't remember soda as an ingredient though.

http://tim.rocketry.org/cooking/soft_pretzels/

Homemade Soft Pretzels

Ingredients:

1 cup warm Water
1 package Dry Active Yeast
2 3/4 cups All Purpose Flour
2 tbsp olive oil (or vegetable oil)
½ tsp ordinary table Salt
2 tbsp Baking Soda
2 tsp coarse Salt (or kosher salt)

Basic Instructions:


1. Dissolve dry active yeast in warm (100° - 110°) water and set aside
for 10 minutes until foamy.
2. Add 2 tbsp of oil and ½ tsp of salt and mix together.
3. Add first 1 ½ cups of all purpose flour and mix in.
4. Add remaining 1 ¼ cups of all purpose flour and begin kneading
dough.
5. Knead by hand for about 15 minutes.
6. Place dough ball into lightly oiled bowl, cover, and set aside to
rise for 60 - 75 minutes.
7. Divide dough into 12 even pieces, roll into balls, cover, and let
rest for 15 minutes.
8. Roll out each piece until 18 inches long, then shape into pretzel
shapes.
9. Cover pretzels and let rise for another 30 minutes.
10. Add 2 tbsp baking soda to a pot of water and boil each pretzel for
1 minute.
11. Place pretzels on greased sheet pan and add coarse salt as
desired.
12. Bake soft pretzels at 475° oven for 12 minutes.


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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:21:23 -0500, wrote:
>
>> Can bagels be made using pizza dough?
>>
> You can use a pizza like dough. I wouldn't use olive oil. Google
> recipes for soft pretzels and include "kids" in your search term
> because the simpler, the better. Here's one for you, but there are
> many. I have no idea where my soft pretzel recipe is, but it was
> similar to this one. I don't remember soda as an ingredient though.
>
> http://tim.rocketry.org/cooking/soft_pretzels/
>
> Homemade Soft Pretzels
>
> Ingredients:
>
> 1 cup warm Water
> 1 package Dry Active Yeast
> 2 3/4 cups All Purpose Flour
> 2 tbsp olive oil (or vegetable oil)
> ½ tsp ordinary table Salt
> 2 tbsp Baking Soda
> 2 tsp coarse Salt (or kosher salt)
>
> Basic Instructions:
>
>
> 1. Dissolve dry active yeast in warm (100° - 110°) water and set aside
> for 10 minutes until foamy.
> 2. Add 2 tbsp of oil and ½ tsp of salt and mix together.
> 3. Add first 1 ½ cups of all purpose flour and mix in.
> 4. Add remaining 1 ¼ cups of all purpose flour and begin kneading dough.
> 5. Knead by hand for about 15 minutes.
> 6. Place dough ball into lightly oiled bowl, cover, and set aside to
> rise for 60 - 75 minutes.
> 7. Divide dough into 12 even pieces, roll into balls, cover, and let
> rest for 15 minutes.
> 8. Roll out each piece until 18 inches long, then shape into pretzel
> shapes.
> 9. Cover pretzels and let rise for another 30 minutes.
> 10. Add 2 tbsp baking soda to a pot of water and boil each pretzel for
> 1 minute.
> 11. Place pretzels on greased sheet pan and add coarse salt as desired.
> 12. Bake soft pretzels at 475° oven for 12 minutes.
>


To get the right color and traditional crust, the pretzels need to be
dipped in a hot but weak *lye* solution. Baking soda will not be
anywhere near alkaline enough. Washing soda (sodium carbonate) is
probably an acceptable substitute. HTH

(I tried making pretzels once using just simmering salted water for
the dip and they were pretty tasteless and not shiny -- more like
bread sticks.

Bob

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:33:26 -0600, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:21:23 -0500, wrote:
>>
>>> Can bagels be made using pizza dough?
>>>
>> You can use a pizza like dough. I wouldn't use olive oil. Google
>> recipes for soft pretzels and include "kids" in your search term
>> because the simpler, the better. Here's one for you, but there are
>> many. I have no idea where my soft pretzel recipe is, but it was
>> similar to this one. I don't remember soda as an ingredient though.
>>
>> http://tim.rocketry.org/cooking/soft_pretzels/
>>
>> Homemade Soft Pretzels
>>
<snip>
>> 10. Add 2 tbsp baking soda to a pot of water and boil each pretzel for
>> 1 minute.
>> 11. Place pretzels on greased sheet pan and add coarse salt as desired.
>> 12. Bake soft pretzels at 475° oven for 12 minutes.
>>
>
>
>To get the right color and traditional crust, the pretzels need to be
>dipped in a hot but weak *lye* solution. Baking soda will not be
>anywhere near alkaline enough. Washing soda (sodium carbonate) is
>probably an acceptable substitute. HTH
>
>(I tried making pretzels once using just simmering salted water for
>the dip and they were pretty tasteless and not shiny -- more like
>bread sticks.
>
Washing soda, huh? Live and learn. I wish I could find the recipe
*I* used when the kids were little, because it was as good as they get
and I didn't boil them before baking.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:33:26 -0600, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>> get the right color and traditional crust, the pretzels need to be
>> dipped in a hot but weak *lye* solution. Baking soda will not be
>> anywhere near alkaline enough. Washing soda (sodium carbonate) is
>> probably an acceptable substitute. HTH
>>
>> (I tried making pretzels once using just simmering salted water for
>> the dip and they were pretty tasteless and not shiny -- more like
>> bread sticks.
>>
>>
> Washing soda, huh? Live and learn. I wish I could find the recipe
> *I* used when the kids were little, because it was as good as they get
> and I didn't boil them before baking.

Washing soda is hard to find around here.


Becca

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:44:31 -0600, Becca > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:33:26 -0600, zxcvbob >
>> wrote:
>>> get the right color and traditional crust, the pretzels need to be
>>> dipped in a hot but weak *lye* solution. Baking soda will not be
>>> anywhere near alkaline enough. Washing soda (sodium carbonate) is
>>> probably an acceptable substitute. HTH
>>>
>>> (I tried making pretzels once using just simmering salted water for
>>> the dip and they were pretty tasteless and not shiny -- more like
>>> bread sticks.
>>>
>>>
>> Washing soda, huh? Live and learn. I wish I could find the recipe
>> *I* used when the kids were little, because it was as good as they get
>> and I didn't boil them before baking.
>
>Washing soda is hard to find around here.
>
Can't say I've ever looked for it, so I am not sure if I could buy it
or not!

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:44:31 -0600, Becca wrote:

> sf wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:33:26 -0600, zxcvbob >
>> wrote:
>>> get the right color and traditional crust, the pretzels need to be
>>> dipped in a hot but weak *lye* solution. Baking soda will not be
>>> anywhere near alkaline enough. Washing soda (sodium carbonate) is
>>> probably an acceptable substitute. HTH
>>>
>>> (I tried making pretzels once using just simmering salted water for
>>> the dip and they were pretty tasteless and not shiny -- more like
>>> bread sticks.
>>>
>>>
>> Washing soda, huh? Live and learn. I wish I could find the recipe
>> *I* used when the kids were little, because it was as good as they get
>> and I didn't boil them before baking.
>
> Washing soda is hard to find around here.

Heat a 1/4" layer of baking soda in the oven at 375 for 15 minutes.
The result will be mostly sodium carbonate.

Some people say microwaving for 20 seconds works just as well.

-sw

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:44:31 -0600, Becca > wrote:

>
>Washing soda is hard to find around here.
>
>
>Becca

It will be in the laundry detergent section in an Arm & Hammer box.
Funny....the two largest grocery stores in this one-horse town both
sell it. I figured if they had it everyone did, but apparently not.

Terry