My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
bad idea?

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

On Jan 28, 12:36*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
> lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
> help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
> bad idea?
>
> --
> Peter Lucas
> Brisbane
> Australia

Go ask on a pet NG. Poodles have hair not fur. That's one reason why
it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
for years.

Chemo the Clown wrote:
> On Jan 28, 12:36*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> > My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
> > lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
> > help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
> > bad idea?
> >
> > --
> > Peter Lucas
> > Brisbane
> > Australia
>
> Go ask on a pet NG.


I DID ask on a pet forum for heavens sake! (Look at the forums I
chose!!!)

> Poodles have hair not fur.

Sure, nice try. I know fur when I see fur!

> That's one reason why
> it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
> for years.

Yes I thought that maybe with what they say about winter and summer
weather patterns and global warming that it might be a risky
operation. I have also owned poodles for years.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

On Jan 28, 1:16*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> Chemo the Clown wrote:
> > On Jan 28, 12:36*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> > > My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
> > > lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
> > > help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
> > > bad idea?
>
> > > --
> > > Peter Lucas
> > > Brisbane
> > > Australia
>
> > Go ask on a pet NG.
>
> I DID ask on a pet forum for heavens sake! (Look at the forums I
> chose!!!)
>
> > Poodles have hair not fur.
>
> Sure, nice try. I know fur when I see fur!
>
> > That's one reason why
> > it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
> > for years.
>
> Yes I thought that maybe with what they say about winter and summer
> weather patterns and global warming that it might be a risky
> operation. I have also owned poodles for years.
>
> --
> Peter Lucas
> Brisbane
> Australia

You are an idiot.

Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> Go ask on a pet NG. Poodles have hair not fur. That's one reason why
> it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
> for years.

You replied to the fake Peter Lucas,
i.e. Bevan whateverhisnameis. Please
check the headers before replying.
The faker also crossposts to bunches
of inappropriate newsgroups.

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Chemo the Clown wrote:
> >
> > Go ask on a pet NG. Poodles have hair not fur. That's one reason why
> > it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
> > for years.
>
> You replied to the fake Peter Lucas,
> i.e. Bevan whateverhisnameis. Please
> check the headers before replying.
> The faker also crossposts to bunches
> of inappropriate newsgroups.

Thanks for the help Mark. I am fairly sure it is that Terwillegar
moron again.
If only more folk would check the headers.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Chemo the Clown wrote:
> On Jan 28, 1:16*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> > Chemo the Clown wrote:
> > > On Jan 28, 12:36*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> > > > My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
> > > > lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
> > > > help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
> > > > bad idea?
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Peter Lucas
> > > > Brisbane
> > > > Australia
> >
> > > Go ask on a pet NG.
> >
> > I DID ask on a pet forum for heavens sake! (Look at the forums I
> > chose!!!)
> >
> > > Poodles have hair not fur.
> >
> > Sure, nice try. I know fur when I see fur!
> >
> > > That's one reason why
> > > it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
> > > for years.
> >
> > Yes I thought that maybe with what they say about winter and summer
> > weather patterns and global warming that it might be a risky
> > operation. I have also owned poodles for years.
> >
> > --
> > Peter Lucas
> > Brisbane
> > Australia
>
> You are an idiot.

Can you explain why you think asking a simple question makes me a
idiot?
Bet you carnt!

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Peter Lucas" > wrote in message
...
> My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
> lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
> help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
> bad idea?
>
> --
> Peter Lucas
> Brisbane
> Australia
>
>
In actual fact your poodle is your parent. You shouldn't even consider this
unless he/she specifically asked you to. I strongly suspect he didn't. Try
to behave like a good child would.

Kent

Kent wrote:
> "Peter Lucas" > wrote in message
> ...
> > My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
> > lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
> > help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
> > bad idea?
> >
> > --
> > Peter Lucas
> > Brisbane
> > Australia
> >
> >
> In actual fact your poodle is your parent. You shouldn't even consider this
> unless he/she specifically asked you to. I strongly suspect he didn't. Try
> to behave like a good child would.

One day your smartass mouth will meet my fist you filthy grub.
If you have nothing useful to add stay out of my messages. Or else.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia




>
> Kent

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:49:31 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:

>On Jan 28, 12:36*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
>> My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
>> lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
>> help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
>> bad idea?
>>
>> --
>> Peter Lucas
>> Brisbane
>> Australia
>
>Go ask on a pet NG. Poodles have hair not fur. That's one reason why
>it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
>for years.

I've owned poodles for years too, they are the closest dog personality
to that of a cat, highly intelligent, extremely affectionate, yet
independant and aloof. All dogs (all mammals) have hair. With
animals hair and fur are typically used interchangeably *in a manner
of speaking*... but each individual strand is a hair, not a fur...
actually animal hair does not become fur until after the animal is
killed and its pelt processed or the hair falls out and becomes fur
balls/dust bunnies... "fur" is not an anatomical term, fur is a
product of manufacture.

A lot of folks have poodles because they don't shed (and many who are
allergic to dogs are not allergic to poodles). Folks who care for
their poodles properly have them groomed often... those who don't have
their poodle groomed regularly and properly (the cheapo *******s) are
abusing their dog... ungroomed poodles are very prone to
dermatological disease. Those who live in cold climates do not have
an excuse to not groom their poodle, poodles typically wear doggie
coats, even little booties, rain coats too.... poodles typically have
an entire wardrobe. During cold weather poodles are still groomed,
just not as closely as during warm weather. Poodles are technically a
working dog breed and a water dog... a lot of salt/brackish water duck
hunters prefer poodles, the standard poodle makes an excellent
hunting/water dog.
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/poodle.html

Peter Lupis austrailer sputtered:


>Kent wrote:

>> > My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
>> > lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
>> > help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
>> > bad idea?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Peter Lucas
>> > Brisbane
>> > Austrailer
>> >
>> >
>> In actual fact your poodle is your parent. You shouldn't even consider this
>> unless he/she specifically asked you to. I strongly suspect he didn't. Try
>> to behave like a good child would.
>
>One day your smartass mouth will meet my fist you filthy grub.
>If you have nothing useful to add stay out of my messages. Or else.

Shut it, **** FACE... you little fairy faggot maggot.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . . Austrailer! hehehe

On Jan 28, 1:38*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> Chemo the Clown wrote:
> > On Jan 28, 1:16*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> > > Chemo the Clown wrote:
> > > > On Jan 28, 12:36*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> > > > > My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
> > > > > lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
> > > > > help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
> > > > > bad idea?
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Peter Lucas
> > > > > Brisbane
> > > > > Australia
>
> > > > Go ask on a pet NG.
>
> > > I DID ask on a pet forum for heavens sake! (Look at the forums I
> > > chose!!!)
>
> > > > Poodles have hair not fur.
>
> > > Sure, nice try. I know fur when I see fur!
>
> > > > That's one reason why
> > > > it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
> > > > for years.
>
> > > Yes I thought that maybe with what they say about winter and summer
> > > weather patterns and global warming that it might be a risky
> > > operation. I have also owned poodles for years.
>
> > > --
> > > Peter Lucas
> > > Brisbane
> > > Australia
>
> > You are an idiot.
>
> Can you explain why you think asking a simple question makes me a
> idiot?
> Bet you carnt!
>
> --
> Peter Lucas
> Brisbane
> Australia

Please have a big cup of shut the **** up and let the real Peter Lucas
have the floor.

terwilliger posting as Peter the troll wrote:
usual weak insipid troll removed

Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> Please have a big cup of shut the **** up and let the real Peter Lucas
> have the floor.

He can't. He's a fraud artist who was exposed
by Peter Lucas, and now he's devoted the rest of
his life to getting revenge.

This is the only medium by which he can do that.
It is the only way he can get any satisfaction.
The word "impotent" comes to mind.

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:49:31 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:

>On Jan 28, 12:36*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
>> My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
>> lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
>> help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
>> bad idea?
>>
>> --
>> Peter Lucas
>> Brisbane
>> Australia
>
>Go ask on a pet NG. Poodles have hair not fur. That's one reason why
>it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
>for years.

Chemo, don't you have a kill file? Why don't you just kill that
troll?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:19:19 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:

>On Jan 28, 1:16*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
>> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>> > On Jan 28, 12:36*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
>> > > My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
>> > > lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
>> > > help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
>> > > bad idea?
>>
>> > > --
>> > > Peter Lucas
>> > > Brisbane
>> > > Australia
>>
>> > Go ask on a pet NG.
>>
>> I DID ask on a pet forum for heavens sake! (Look at the forums I
>> chose!!!)
>>
>> > Poodles have hair not fur.
>>
>> Sure, nice try. I know fur when I see fur!
>>
>> > That's one reason why
>> > it's curly. It helps keep them warm. I know because I've owned poodles
>> > for years.
>>
>> Yes I thought that maybe with what they say about winter and summer
>> weather patterns and global warming that it might be a risky
>> operation. I have also owned poodles for years.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Lucas
>> Brisbane
>> Australia
>
>You are an idiot.

Honestly, you just don't learn.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Peter wrote from his "manlymail.net" account:

> Thanks for the help Mark. I am fairly sure it is that Terwillegar
> moron again.
> If only more folk would check the headers.

LOL

Bob

Peter's sockpuppet wrote:

> terwilliger posting as Peter the troll wrote:
> usual weak insipid troll removed

Usual stupidity from the sockpuppet, I see.

Bob

"Peter Lucas" > wrote in message
...
> Kent wrote:
>> "Peter Lucas" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > My dog has what I feel is too curly a coat, I would rather see it a
>> > lot straighter and was wondering if there is something I could do to
>> > help that? On the other hand winter is fast approaching and could be a
>> > bad idea?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Peter Lucas
>> > Brisbane
>> > Australia
>> >
>> >
>> In actual fact your poodle is your parent. You shouldn't even consider
>> this
>> unless he/she specifically asked you to. I strongly suspect he didn't.
>> Try
>> to behave like a good child would.
>
> One day your smartass mouth will meet my fist you filthy grub.
> If you have nothing useful to add stay out of my messages. Or else.
>
> --
> Peter Lucas
>
>
You're really not worth responding to! This is really intended for the
poodle who has to put up with a worthless child like you. Subhumans
shouldn't be allowed to have any dog, much less a poodle. I feel sorry for
the dog, straightening out the curls to feed your ego.

Kent

On Jan 28, 8:22*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> > Please have a big cup of shut the **** up and let the real Peter Lucas
> > have the floor.
>
> He can't. *He's a fraud artist who was exposed
> by Peter Lucas, and now he's devoted the rest of
> his life to getting revenge.
>
> This is the only medium by which he can do that.
> It is the only way he can get any satisfaction.
> The word "impotent" comes to mind.

By now I'd think that everyone would know the difference, even those
who don't get along with Peter.

This thread is OFF TOPIC. If you want to talk about poodles, how
about some recipes for bosintang?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosintang

Meong! Meong!

--Bryan

On 2010-01-28, brooklyn1 > wrote:


> abusing their dog... ungroomed poodles are very prone to
> dermatological disease.

That's any dog.

> Those who live in cold climates do not have
> an excuse to not groom their poodle, poodles typically wear doggie
> coats, even little booties, rain coats too.... poodles typically have
> an entire wardrobe.

That's only the poofter poodles.

nb

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:29:01 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2010-01-28, brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
>
>> abusing their dog... ungroomed poodles are very prone to
>> dermatological disease.
>
>That's any dog.

That's not true. There are other kinky haired breeds that need to be
groomed regularly too but most breeds are never groomed and don't ever
need grooming.

>> Those who live in cold climates do not have
>> an excuse to not groom their poodle, poodles typically wear doggie
>> coats, even little booties, rain coats too.... poodles typically have
>> an entire wardrobe.
>
>That's only the poofter poodles.

Not true either, many short haired breeds *should* wear clothing in
cold climes, and still should not be outdoors more than necessary...
some breeds should not be subjected to undue cold climates, same as
certain breeds don't belong in excessively warm climates. Of course
there are plenty of irresponsible pinheads who keep dogs that are of a
breed that is unsuitable for the environment and/or are not properly
cared for... lots of folks are too stupid to have pets.

On 2010-01-29, brooklyn1 > wrote:

> Not true either, many short haired breeds *should* wear clothing in
> cold climes

http://www.poodlebreedguide.com/thos...-sled-poodles/

> cared for... lots of folks are too stupid to have pets.

Some folks are jes stupid.

nb

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:31:39 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, brooklyn1 wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:29:01 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2010-01-28, brooklyn1 > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> abusing their dog... ungroomed poodles are very prone to
>>> dermatological disease.
>>
>>That's any dog.
>
>That's not true. There are other kinky haired breeds that need to be
>groomed regularly too but most breeds are never groomed and don't ever
>need grooming.
>
>>> Those who live in cold climates do not have
>>> an excuse to not groom their poodle, poodles typically wear doggie
>>> coats, even little booties, rain coats too.... poodles typically have
>>> an entire wardrobe.
>>
>>That's only the poofter poodles.
>
>Not true either, many short haired breeds *should* wear clothing in
>cold climes, and still should not be outdoors more than necessary...
>some breeds should not be subjected to undue cold climates, same as
>certain breeds don't belong in excessively warm climates. Of course
>there are plenty of irresponsible pinheads who keep dogs that are of a
>breed that is unsuitable for the environment and/or are not properly
>cared for... lots of folks are too stupid to have pets.

Ours wear coats that cover their stomachs - which keeps them a lot cleaner
and as they are bright yellow, we can see them more easily in the woods!

Doug
--
Doug Weller --
A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
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> brooklyn1 wrote:

>Not true either, many short haired breeds *should* wear clothing in
>cold climes, and still should not be outdoors more than necessary...
>some breeds should not be subjected to undue cold climates, same as
>certain breeds don't belong in excessively warm climates. Of course
>there are plenty of irresponsible pinheads who keep dogs that are of a
>breed that is unsuitable for the environment and/or are not properly
>cared for... lots of folks are too stupid to have pets.

Hope i got the attribute right. Sorry Sheldon if this wasnt you.

I agree fully. I have a dog, Cash-pup. He's a beagle mix (believed to be
Beagle and Bull Mastiff which boggles the mind). He's basically a very
muscular beagle and 18 inches at the shoulder with a full almost bull
mastiff body on short legs. He is not, and never would be the sort to leave
outside in cold weather although he enjoys short tromps though the snow we
have now. He's not as amused now that it's 12 inches deep and his whizzer
is getting dragged through the snow (grin).

He's got a jacket but it covers his back and chest only with a belly band to
hold it on.

He's very well suited to our hotter area and only when it's over 95F, is he
heat stressed (they have thick short coats) so he isn't left out long in hot
summer either. In fact, only in the best weather for *him* is he left to
just enjoy the yard for an hour or so alone (with us checking on him
sporadically). The yard at that time is mostly in shade due to a huge tree.

He's an indoor dog. Designed to be one during certain seasons here.

BTW, we are investigating a companion dog for him. Cricket the beagle seems
the fore-runner just now.

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:00:04 +0000, Doug Weller
> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:31:39 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:29:01 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2010-01-28, brooklyn1 > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> abusing their dog... ungroomed poodles are very prone to
>>>> dermatological disease.
>>>
>>>That's any dog.
>>
>>That's not true. There are other kinky haired breeds that need to be
>>groomed regularly too but most breeds are never groomed and don't ever
>>need grooming.
>>
>>>> Those who live in cold climates do not have
>>>> an excuse to not groom their poodle, poodles typically wear doggie
>>>> coats, even little booties, rain coats too.... poodles typically have
>>>> an entire wardrobe.
>>>
>>>That's only the poofter poodles.
>>
>>Not true either, many short haired breeds *should* wear clothing in
>>cold climes, and still should not be outdoors more than necessary...
>>some breeds should not be subjected to undue cold climates, same as
>>certain breeds don't belong in excessively warm climates. Of course
>>there are plenty of irresponsible pinheads who keep dogs that are of a
>>breed that is unsuitable for the environment and/or are not properly
>>cared for... lots of folks are too stupid to have pets.
>
>Ours wear coats that cover their stomachs - which keeps them a lot cleaner
>and as they are bright yellow, we can see them more easily in the woods!
>
>Doug

I don't know what you consider "woods" but your poodle wouldn't last
roaming in my woods... just yesterday morning I saw a huge grey wolf
coming out of the pines loping at a quick clip right past my house and
crossed the road into the woods again... had your poodle been out that
wolf would have snapped it up for an appetizer without even missing a
beat.

On Jan 31, 11:57*am, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:00:04 +0000, Doug Weller
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:31:39 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> >>On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:29:01 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >>>On 2010-01-28, brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
> >>>> abusing their dog... ungroomed poodles are very prone to
> >>>> dermatological disease. *
>
> >>>That's any dog.
>
> >>That's not true. *There are other kinky haired breeds that need to be
> >>groomed regularly too but most breeds are never groomed and don't ever
> >>need grooming.
>
> >>>> Those who live in cold climates do not have
> >>>> an excuse to not groom their poodle, poodles typically wear doggie
> >>>> coats, even little booties, rain coats too.... poodles typically have
> >>>> an entire wardrobe. *
>
> >>>That's only the poofter poodles.
>
> >>Not true either, many short haired breeds *should* wear clothing in
> >>cold climes, and still should not be outdoors more than necessary...
> >>some breeds should not be subjected to undue cold climates, same as
> >>certain breeds don't belong in excessively warm climates. *Of course
> >>there are plenty of irresponsible pinheads who keep dogs that are of a
> >>breed that is unsuitable for the environment and/or are not properly
> >>cared for... lots of folks are too stupid to have pets.
>
> >Ours wear coats that cover their stomachs - which keeps them a lot cleaner
> >and as they are bright yellow, we can see them more easily in the woods!
>
> >Doug
>
> I don't know what you consider "woods" but your poodle wouldn't last
> roaming in my woods... just yesterday morning I saw a huge grey wolf
> coming out of the pines loping at a quick clip right past my house and
> crossed the road into the woods again... had your poodle been out that
> wolf would have snapped it up for an appetizer without even missing a
> beat.

Jeezus...there's lots of place in the world that aren't suitable for a
poodle. I live in the "woods" and there aren't any wolves and my
poodle does just fine.

brooklyn1 wrote:

>
> I don't know what you consider "woods" but your poodle wouldn't last
> roaming in my woods... just yesterday morning I saw a huge grey wolf
> coming out of the pines loping at a quick clip right past my house and
> crossed the road into the woods again... had your poodle been out that
> wolf would have snapped it up for an appetizer without even missing a
> beat.


FWIW... wolves haven't been seen in New York State for over 100 years.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/52350.html Read the "Highlight of the Week".

I learned a new word reading about this... "extirpated". Means extinct
in a local area but still found in other places. New York State says
the wolf is considered extirpated in that area.

But... it could well have been a coyote and they aren't anything to mess
with either. When I was a kid living in Upstate NY, there were lots of
coyote sightings, but I never saw one.
http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/9359.html

George L

"brooklyn1" wrote
> Doug Weller wrote:

> I don't know what you consider "woods" but your poodle wouldn't last
> roaming in my woods... just yesterday morning I saw a huge grey wolf
> coming out of the pines loping at a quick clip right past my house and
> crossed the road into the woods again... had your poodle been out that
> wolf would have snapped it up for an appetizer without even missing a
> beat.

Um Sheldon, I get the impression Doug has normal poodles, not the
miniatures. They are full sized, about that of a Labrador and eat wolves in
Russia.

On 2010-01-31, cshenk > wrote:

> Um Sheldon, I get the impression Doug has normal poodles, not the
> miniatures. They are full sized, about that of a Labrador and eat wolves in
> Russia.

WTF, C! Are you insinuating mins are abnormal? Mins rock! How many
times you seen a dog outrun and tackle a full grown jackrabbit over a
freshly disked field? ....several times in a row, no less!? The
poodle I saw do it still had the bow in its freshly groomed hair.

nb

Pussy wrote:

> I don't know what you consider "woods" but your poodle wouldn't last
> roaming in my woods... just yesterday morning I saw a huge grey wolf
> coming out of the pines loping at a quick clip right past my house and
> crossed the road into the woods again... had your poodle been out that
> wolf would have snapped it up for an appetizer without even missing a
> beat.

I don't know what you consider "woods" but you wouldn't last roaming in my
woods... just yesterday morning I saw a little field mouse scurrying along
at a busy pace right past my house and across the road into the neighbor's
lawn... had you been there it would have raped both your eye sockets without
even missing a beat.

Bob

George wrote:

>> I don't know what you consider "woods" but your poodle wouldn't last
>> roaming in my woods... just yesterday morning I saw a huge grey wolf
>> coming out of the pines loping at a quick clip right past my house and
>> crossed the road into the woods again... had your poodle been out that
>> wolf would have snapped it up for an appetizer without even missing a
>> beat.
>
>
> FWIW... wolves haven't been seen in New York State for over 100 years.
>
> http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/52350.html Read the "Highlight of the Week".

Wait... Do you mean to say that clueless AOL newbie "Pussy" Katz was CAUGHT
LYING? AGAIN?

Bob

"notbob" wrote
> cshenk wrote:

>> Um Sheldon, I get the impression Doug has normal poodles, not the
>> miniatures. They are full sized, about that of a Labrador and eat wolves
>> in
>> Russia.

> WTF, C! Are you insinuating mins are abnormal? Mins rock! How many
> times you seen a dog outrun and tackle a full grown jackrabbit over a
> freshly disked field? ....several times in a row, no less!? The
> poodle I saw do it still had the bow in its freshly groomed hair.

LOL! Yeah, now imagine the full sized version.

Smile, I've nothing against mini's though not my style. Full sized ones are
AWESOME. 45-70 lbs depending on breeding.

On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:19:04 GMT, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On Sun 31 Jan 2010 04:23:10p, George Leppla wrote in
>rec.food.cooking >:
>
>> FWIW... wolves haven't been seen in New York State for over 100
>> years.
>>
>> http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/52350.html Read the "Highlight of
>> the Week".
>>
>> I learned a new word reading about this... "extirpated". Means
>> extinct in a local area but still found in other places. New
>> York State says the wolf is considered extirpated in that area.
>>
>> But... it could well have been a coyote and they aren't anything
>> to mess with either. When I was a kid living in Upstate NY,
>> there were lots of coyote sightings, but I never saw one.
>> http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/9359.html
>>
>
>In the east, there are coyote-wolf hybrids, at least that's what I've
>read. The eastern coyote is much larger than it's western cousin.

The animal I saw was definitely a wolf, certainly far more wolf
than dog or coyote, I'd guess it weighed well over 100 pounds. I
spot it about 6:20 AM before full light, standing still right in front
of my barn, about 800 feet distance from my back door. At first I
thouhgt it was a deer, until I saw it move. Then I thought a large
german shepherd, lots of people here leave their dogs out, cats too.
But all of a sudden this animal began to move, went quickly around
behind my barn and then headed along the small frozen steam towards my
vegetable garden, where I could no longer see it. I quickly went to a
front window and spotted it crossing the road and watched it head off
across a wetlands open space and then into the woods. Unfortunately
there was no time to get my camera, and at the rate it was moving I
doubt I could have gotten to my camera before it was gone. This was
definitely a wolf. Wolves often migrate down from Canada during
winter. This was the third time I spotted a wolf here, I'm sure they
come through here often, I simply don't see them at night. In the
spring I find deer skeletons in my back field, I know they were taken
down by preditors from how they are ripped apart. There are lots of
mountain lion and bobcats here too. And I've seen black bear here a
number of times. Smaller animals of all kinds are abundant. I live
in a pretty remote area with a very low population density, and since
I put out food several times every day lots of wildlife of all kinds
are attracted, plus there is a very good supply of natural food and
water here. I'm positive that if I wanted to I could get the deer to
eat from my hand... some come right up to my rear deck several times a
day to beg for bread and carrots... they're no more than a dozen feet
away when I open my back sliders and they don't even flinch, they know
me. Besides they're greedy. I don't go traipsing about alone in the
remote portions of my property on foot, I go into those areas by
tractor, especially in early spring, that's when the critters have
forgoten all about humans and are more dangerous... twice the noise of
my tractor has routed out a momma black bear with cubs, those critters
can move.

http://www.gunkguide.com/09August/0908023-wolves.html

On 2010-02-01, cshenk > wrote:

> Smile, I've nothing against mini's though not my style. Full sized ones are
> AWESOME. 45-70 lbs depending on breeding.

I may get one, but, after afghan hounds, am not fan of big dogs.. I'm
definitely sold on poodles, though. Brilliant dogs.

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2010-02-01, cshenk > wrote:
>
>> Smile, I've nothing against mini's though not my style. Full sized ones are
>> AWESOME. 45-70 lbs depending on breeding.
>
> I may get one, but, after afghan hounds, am not fan of big dogs.. I'm
> definitely sold on poodles, though. Brilliant dogs.
>
> nb

I am on my third Poodle. My daughter once told me that she wanted a
Poodle but was afraid to have a dog smarter than she was. She finally
got a chihuahua.

My first Poodle was a rather long-legged mini. He was the best dog of my
entire life and though he is gone now 6 years, I still miss him. He was
16 when he passed. He was brilliant. Sometimes scary brilliant.

We got another mini when he was 8 and she was a runt so she wasn't much
taller than a Toy Poodle, but was built like a Mini, kind of like a
mailbox with legs. Kellie (who graciously lent me her email address) was
a sweet thing but very independent. Almost like a cat that barked. She
had the nerve to die in the motorhome while we were in Houston and I was
undergoing cancer treatment. She was only 9.

It took several years being dogless but I couldn't stand being without a
Poodle so we got Mickey Charles (named for Mickey Mantle) right after
Thanksgiving 2008. He's 15 months old now and is 7.9 pounds of mischief
and affection. Somehow he got the notion into his little doggie head
that the entire world was created to play with him and be his friend.

I always say that if I had know how wonderful Poodles were, I'd have had
more Poodles and less children.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Cheryl wrote:

> In the east, there are coyote-wolf hybrids, at least that's what I've
> read. The eastern coyote is much larger than it's western cousin.

I once saw a coyote in Central New Jersey.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder > wrote:

>Cheryl wrote:

>> In the east, there are coyote-wolf hybrids, at least that's what I've
>> read. The eastern coyote is much larger than it's western cousin.

>I once saw a coyote in Central New Jersey.

I once saw a fox in central London.

Steve

On 2010-02-01, Janet Wilder > wrote:

> 16 when he passed. He was brilliant. Sometimes scary brilliant.

2nd smartest dog behind border collie.

> I always say that if I had know how wonderful Poodles were, I'd have had
> more Poodles and less children.

Why didn't I think of that!?

Dogs 101 did large segment on poodles. One of the owners said he
became a local celebrity walking 2 pitbulls and a poodle in Hollywood.
My mom has had poodles fer the last 30 yrs. I never paid much
attention till I watched her min run down full grown jackrabbits
almost bigger than he was.

That dog, Brandy, was mom's only male poodle. Used to crack me up cuz
she'd have him groomed in a pretty basic summer cut, but would always
have the groomer put a little purple ribbon bow in his topknot. I
swear, that dog would not look me in the eye till he'd tore that bow
off his head, after a couple days. There can be no doubt he knew what
it was and was knowingly embarrassed by it. lol....

nb

On 2010-02-01, Janet Wilder > wrote:

>> In the east, there are coyote-wolf hybrids, at least that's what I've
>> read. The eastern coyote is much larger than it's western cousin.

I'm amazed at all the wildlife I see in our two small towns. 8 pt
bucks and their entire harem wonder through front yards like they own 'em.
I've seen bears, possums, raccoons, badgers, etc, walking down the
street like they were going shopping. I've seen many of these on my
deck. I love it!

nb