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Allan Matthews 06-02-2010 12:17 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
TIA, Allan

Kswck 06-02-2010 12:36 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
2/1
"Allan Matthews" > wrote in message
...
> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
> TIA, Allan




Melba's Jammin' 06-02-2010 01:49 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
Allan Matthews > wrote:

> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
> TIA, Allan


I don't measure either the cornstarch or the liquid -- depends of the
quantity I want to thicken - enough liquid to make a thin slurry. Yes,
it has to be brought to boil, stirring. It will make the sauce clearish
and shiny. Reheating a cornstarch-thickened sauce can be problematic
-- it may break.
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Allan Matthews 06-02-2010 02:12 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:49:24 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Allan Matthews > wrote:
>
>> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
>> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
>> TIA, Allan

>
>I don't measure either the cornstarch or the liquid -- depends of the
>quantity I want to thicken - enough liquid to make a thin slurry. Yes,
>it has to be brought to boil, stirring. It will make the sauce clearish
>and shiny. Reheating a cornstarch-thickened sauce can be problematic
>-- it may break.

Thanks for info. Am making clam chowder for first time , but will
thicken with potato, Ibelieve.

blake murphy[_2_] 06-02-2010 03:43 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:49:24 -0600, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >,
> Allan Matthews > wrote:
>
>> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
>> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
>> TIA, Allan

>
> I don't measure either the cornstarch or the liquid -- depends of the
> quantity I want to thicken - enough liquid to make a thin slurry. Yes,
> it has to be brought to boil, stirring. It will make the sauce clearish
> and shiny. Reheating a cornstarch-thickened sauce can be problematic
> -- it may break.


i don't think it has to come to a *boil* - but it does have to be heated.
(at least for the applications i use it for - chinese stir-fries, so a
fairly small amount of liquid to be thickened.)

your pal,
b;lake

sf[_9_] 06-02-2010 03:52 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:12:08 -0500, Allan Matthews
> wrote:

> Thanks for info. Am making clam chowder for first time , but will
> thicken with potato, Ibelieve.


Potatoes are the only way to thicken clam chowder, save your
cornstarch for something else. It's commonly used in Chinese cooking
as a thickener.

--
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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

brooklyn1 06-02-2010 05:03 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
sf wrote:
>Allan Matthews wrote:
>
>>Am making clam chowder for first time , but will
>> thicken with potato.

>
>Potatoes are the only way to thicken clam chowder.


You're talking that wimpy New England style... REAL clam chowder.
Manhattan clam chowder, is best thickened with okra.

jmcquown[_2_] 06-02-2010 05:16 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
"Allan Matthews" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:49:24 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> Allan Matthews > wrote:
>>
>>> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
>>> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
>>> TIA, Allan

>>
>>I don't measure either the cornstarch or the liquid -- depends of the
>>quantity I want to thicken - enough liquid to make a thin slurry. Yes,
>>it has to be brought to boil, stirring. It will make the sauce clearish
>>and shiny. Reheating a cornstarch-thickened sauce can be problematic
>>-- it may break.

> Thanks for info. Am making clam chowder for first time , but will
> thicken with potato, Ibelieve.



NE Clam chowder should already contain potatoes.

Cornstarch is surprising in that you only need a small amount of liquid to
make a slurry that will thicken a pot of anything. And I have never found
it "breaks" upon reheating. I prefer it to using flour which often leaves
an aftertaste if it hasn't cooked completely. IMHO. Cornstarch slurries
blend in quickly. YMMV.

Jill


Dave Smith[_1_] 06-02-2010 05:31 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
jmcquown wrote:


> Cornstarch is surprising in that you only need a small amount of liquid
> to make a slurry that will thicken a pot of anything. And I have never
> found it "breaks" upon reheating. I prefer it to using flour which
> often leaves an aftertaste if it hasn't cooked completely. IMHO.
> Cornstarch slurries blend in quickly. YMMV.


Cornstarch is a great thickener because it works so quickly, but it
gives a glossy appearance which isn't always appealing. My preferred
thickener is Veloutine, which may not be available in the US. It is made
with potato starch. You bring the liquid to a boil and stir in the
Veloutine and it thickens within a minute.

gloria.p 06-02-2010 05:45 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Allan Matthews > wrote:
>
>> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
>> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
>> TIA, Allan

>
> I don't measure either the cornstarch or the liquid -- depends of the
> quantity I want to thicken - enough liquid to make a thin slurry. Yes,
> it has to be brought to boil, stirring. It will make the sauce clearish
> and shiny. Reheating a cornstarch-thickened sauce can be problematic
> -- it may break.



Agreed. I usually mix up lots of slurry and add it gradually to the
simmering liquid till the desired consistency is reached.

I've never had a problem with breaking and I use it to thicken all kinds
of gravies, especially chicken and turkey.

gloria p

T[_5_] 06-02-2010 06:23 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
says...
>
> "Allan Matthews" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:49:24 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>In article >,
> >> Allan Matthews > wrote:
> >>
> >>> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
> >>> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
> >>> TIA, Allan
> >>
> >>I don't measure either the cornstarch or the liquid -- depends of the
> >>quantity I want to thicken - enough liquid to make a thin slurry. Yes,
> >>it has to be brought to boil, stirring. It will make the sauce clearish
> >>and shiny. Reheating a cornstarch-thickened sauce can be problematic
> >>-- it may break.

> > Thanks for info. Am making clam chowder for first time , but will
> > thicken with potato, Ibelieve.

>
>
> NE Clam chowder should already contain potatoes.
>
> Cornstarch is surprising in that you only need a small amount of liquid to
> make a slurry that will thicken a pot of anything. And I have never found
> it "breaks" upon reheating. I prefer it to using flour which often leaves
> an aftertaste if it hasn't cooked completely. IMHO. Cornstarch slurries
> blend in quickly. YMMV.
>
> Jill


The trick with the corn starch slurry is to put it in when the food is
as hot as can be. That helps it to thicken.

cybercat 06-02-2010 08:02 PM

corn starch as thickener
 

"Kswck" > wrote in message
...
> 2/1


Are you serious? Two parts cs one part water?

> "Allan Matthews" > wrote in message
> ...
>> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
>> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
>> TIA, Allan

>
>




Miche[_2_] 06-02-2010 10:48 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
Allan Matthews > wrote:

> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?


Until there is enough.

> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?


Yup.

Miche

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isw 07-02-2010 04:26 AM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
Miche > wrote:

> In article >,
> Allan Matthews > wrote:
>
> > What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?

>
> Until there is enough.
>
> > Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?

>
> Yup.


Nope. Absolutely not. Thickening *without* having to boil is one of its
advantages.

Isaac

Miche[_2_] 07-02-2010 05:37 AM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article ]>,
isw > wrote:

> In article >,
> Miche > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Allan Matthews > wrote:
> >
> > > What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?

> >
> > Until there is enough.
> >
> > > Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?

> >
> > Yup.

>
> Nope. Absolutely not. Thickening *without* having to boil is one of its
> advantages.


I've found that it needs to boil to thicken to its full extent, although
it doesn't need to "cook the taste out" the way flour does.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

Jean B.[_1_] 07-02-2010 05:14 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
brooklyn1 wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> Allan Matthews wrote:
>>
>>> Am making clam chowder for first time , but will
>>> thicken with potato.

>> Potatoes are the only way to thicken clam chowder.

>
> You're talking that wimpy New England style... REAL clam chowder.
> Manhattan clam chowder, is best thickened with okra.


Viva our wimpy NE clam chowder!

--
Jean B.

Omelet[_7_] 07-02-2010 06:14 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >>Am making clam chowder for first time , but will
> >> thicken with potato.

> >
> >Potatoes are the only way to thicken clam chowder.

>
> You're talking that wimpy New England style... REAL clam chowder.
> Manhattan clam chowder, is best thickened with okra.


Oh yes! I love soups thickened with okra, and it's not slimy if you do
it right.
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Omelet[_7_] 07-02-2010 06:16 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
>
> > Cornstarch is surprising in that you only need a small amount of liquid
> > to make a slurry that will thicken a pot of anything. And I have never
> > found it "breaks" upon reheating. I prefer it to using flour which
> > often leaves an aftertaste if it hasn't cooked completely. IMHO.
> > Cornstarch slurries blend in quickly. YMMV.

>
> Cornstarch is a great thickener because it works so quickly, but it
> gives a glossy appearance which isn't always appealing. My preferred
> thickener is Veloutine, which may not be available in the US. It is made
> with potato starch. You bring the liquid to a boil and stir in the
> Veloutine and it thickens within a minute.


I found some tapioca starch when I was going thru the pantry recently.
Anyone tried thickening with that?

I also have some guar gum on hand I've not yet experimented with for a
low carb thickener.
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Omelet[_7_] 07-02-2010 06:16 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
"gloria.p" > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Allan Matthews > wrote:
> >
> >> What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?
> >> Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?
> >> TIA, Allan

> >
> > I don't measure either the cornstarch or the liquid -- depends of the
> > quantity I want to thicken - enough liquid to make a thin slurry. Yes,
> > it has to be brought to boil, stirring. It will make the sauce clearish
> > and shiny. Reheating a cornstarch-thickened sauce can be problematic
> > -- it may break.

>
>
> Agreed. I usually mix up lots of slurry and add it gradually to the
> simmering liquid till the desired consistency is reached.
>
> I've never had a problem with breaking and I use it to thicken all kinds
> of gravies, especially chicken and turkey.
>
> gloria p


I've also never had a problem with it breaking, even after freezing.
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Omelet[_7_] 07-02-2010 06:17 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article ]>,
isw > wrote:

> In article >,
> Miche > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Allan Matthews > wrote:
> >
> > > What is the ratio of corn starch to liquid when used as a thickener?

> >
> > Until there is enough.
> >
> > > Does it have to be broguht to boiling as flour?

> >
> > Yup.

>
> Nope. Absolutely not. Thickening *without* having to boil is one of its
> advantages.
>
> Isaac


It works faster and better tho' if it is at least simmering.
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brooklyn1 07-02-2010 08:18 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
Omelet wrote:
> brooklyn1 wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>> >Allan Matthews wrote:
>> >
>> >>Am making clam chowder for first time , but will
>> >> thicken with potato.
>> >
>> >Potatoes are the only way to thicken clam chowder.

>>
>> You're talking that wimpy New England style... REAL clam chowder.
>> Manhattan clam chowder, is best thickened with okra.

>
>Oh yes! I love soups thickened with okra, and it's not slimy if you do
>it right.


Naturally we gotta do it right. And fresh n' sassy, young n' nubile
is best... of course ultimately it's all in the technique... in how we
slurp and swallow. ;)

Ophelia[_7_] 07-02-2010 08:55 PM

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"Steve B" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone tried arrowroot?
>
> Sorry, been out of town, and came into this discussion late......


My grandma used to use arrowroot... I have been looking for it.. thanks
Steve.

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Steve B[_6_] 07-02-2010 09:43 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
Anyone tried arrowroot?

Sorry, been out of town, and came into this discussion late......

Steve



cybercat 07-02-2010 10:18 PM

corn starch as thickener
 

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Steve B" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Anyone tried arrowroot?
>>
>> Sorry, been out of town, and came into this discussion late......

>
> My grandma used to use arrowroot... I have been looking for it.. thanks
> Steve.
>

I have wondered if the consistency of things it is used in is different from
things cornstarch has been used in.



Ophelia[_7_] 08-02-2010 08:14 AM

corn starch as thickener
 

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Steve B" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Anyone tried arrowroot?
>>>
>>> Sorry, been out of town, and came into this discussion late......

>>
>> My grandma used to use arrowroot... I have been looking for it.. thanks
>> Steve.
>>

> I have wondered if the consistency of things it is used in is different
> from things cornstarch has been used in.


I can't remember but I do dislike the consistency of cornstarch.
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Omelet[_7_] 08-02-2010 07:40 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> sf wrote:
> >> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Am making clam chowder for first time , but will
> >> >> thicken with potato.
> >> >
> >> >Potatoes are the only way to thicken clam chowder.
> >>
> >> You're talking that wimpy New England style... REAL clam chowder.
> >> Manhattan clam chowder, is best thickened with okra.

> >
> >Oh yes! I love soups thickened with okra, and it's not slimy if you do
> >it right.

>
> Naturally we gotta do it right. And fresh n' sassy, young n' nubile
> is best... of course ultimately it's all in the technique... in how we
> slurp and swallow. ;)


Add them whole and not sliced and diced... <eg>
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Omelet[_7_] 08-02-2010 07:41 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
"Steve B" > wrote:

> Anyone tried arrowroot?
>
> Sorry, been out of town, and came into this discussion late......
>
> Steve


I have, and I prefer it to corn starch due to the "finish", but it's a
bit expensive for regular use. I reserve it for special occasions and
asian soups.
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Omelet[_7_] 08-02-2010 07:41 PM

corn starch as thickener
 
In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> "Steve B" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Anyone tried arrowroot?
> >
> > Sorry, been out of town, and came into this discussion late......

>
> My grandma used to use arrowroot... I have been looking for it.. thanks
>
> --


Health food stores as a general rule.
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