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I just received a cookbook for my collection. It's not Q but it is home
cooking in South Carolina. There are many oven Q recipes as well as game recipes for rabbit and venison, things that are still commonly shot to supplement those not so fortunate in SC. A famous restaurateur, Sylvia Woods who has a soul food restaurant in Harlem. She has a cookbook with many of her home town family and friends from Hemingway, South Carolina. Titled, Sylvia's Family Soul Food Cookbook. Sylvia moved to Harlem from SC and ended up working as a waitress. Then the owner wanted out and offered to sell to Sylvia. Sylvia bought it and built it into a famous soul food restaurant. You can find some of her products for sale at grocer's around the country. There is a recipe that is famous in the Carolina's called, Rice Perlow, there are many family versions and she has one in her cookbook. 2 lb.s chicken pieces, leg quarters are good Combine these, 1-1/2 tsp Old Bay seasoning 1-1/2 tsp seasoned salt (lawry's) 1-1/2 tsp black pepper 1/2 tsp garlic salt 1Tbsp oil 2 slices bacon 1/4 cup chopped onion 3 cups water 1-1/2 cups converted white rice Briefly, Sprinkle chicken with combined seasonings, sit overnight. in 6 qt dutch oven, add oil bacon, not crisped!, add onion til soft, add chicken and 1 cup water, cook uncovered medium heat for 45 minutes, remove chicken add remaining 2 cups water and bring to boil, Reduce heat and simmer for 15 minutes, stir in rice and cook covered for 15 minutes, then return chicken cook for 5-10 minutes more or until rice has absorbed the liquid and chicken is heated. Note from me, perlow is not a sloshy nor dry dish, the rice is moist but not wet, for example it can be picked up by a fork but not dry. There is a chicken and rice dish from Puerto Rico that I really like, Arroz Con Pollo http://www.elboricua.com/arroz_de_pollo.html 2 cups uncooked rice 1 lb. chicken parts 1 small can tomato sauce 2 tablespoons of sliced Spanish Olives, use a bit of the liquid and the red peppers too. 1 teaspoon alcaparras (capers) ½ cup sofrito (Sofrito is like a mild salsa, with red tomato, onion, celery..) 1 teaspoon garlic powder 1 teaspoon black pepper 1 tablespoon salt ½ cup vegetable oil 4 cups of boiling water In a large caldero brown the chicken parts in the oil, 5 minutes each side. Remove chicken from the pot and set aside. Don't put them on paper towels - we want any grease back in the pot. Leave the chicken drippings inside the pot and add all the other ingredients except for the rice, water and chicken. Mix well and cook sofrito for 5 minutes over medium heat. Add the chicken and rice to the pot and stir. Add the boiling water until the water is about 1 inch above the rice, stir once only. Boil uncovered, over high heat, until water is absorbed. Once the water is absorbed gently stir from bottom to top. Just a couple of turns only. Cover and continue to cook over LOW heat for another 30 minutes or until the rice is tender. Hints . . . Don't concern yourself with weighing the meat too much. If you are serving 5 people just use 5 - 8 pieces of meat. Resist the temptation to stir. Too much stirring causes the rice to become "amogollao" or sticky. It is traditional to cook the chicken with bones and all. People will just pull the meat off the bones with their fork. If you have cilantro add some to the top of the pot once it is done, for decoration. Don't let your rice get "ahumado" or smoked from cooking at too high temperature. For great pegao just cook a bit longer keeping an eye on it. For a lot of peagao use a larger caldero (it will just be half empty). Some people prefer to use deboned chicken. Cook the chicken in a crockpot all day with seasonings and when you get home from work debone and use the broth to make the rice. Note: Sticky rice is not good in Puerto Rico! Plain rice is long grain rice, rinsed a few times to remove surface starch and debris, often sauteed in oil then about 3/4 inch water above rice, cooked hot, and when water level is down and the rice can be mounded, reduce heat and cover, until water is gone or add water if you got it too hot in the beginning or didn't add enough water, when you get done there will be a crisp brown crust of rice in the bottom of the pan and the rice is obviously dry, not sticky at all and looks like there are tiny arms around the kernel like it had a tiny, tiny explosion. *SOFRITO Recipe INGREDIENTS: 2 green bell peppers, seeded and chopped 1 red bell peppers, seeded and chopped 10 ajies dulces peppers, tops removed *(This is not a hot pepper however, being of the capsicum chinese family they may carry a slight touch of heat. It is best to remove seeds. If you want to make Sofrito then this is the key ingredient) 3 medium tomatoes, chopped 4 onions, cut into large chunks 3 medium heads garlic, peeled 25 cilantro leaves with stems 25 leaves recao, or culantro *(Recao (Eryngium foetidum L.), also known as culantro, is a spice herb grown commercially in Puerto Rico and throughout the tropical Caribbean and Central America. Recao is a key ingredient in Puerto Rican cooking. Other names for culantro in Spanish and English include: Puerto Rican coriander, Black Benny, Saw leaf herb, Mexican coriander, Saw tooth coriander, long coriander, Spiny coriander, Fitweed, spiritweed, Culantro, Recao, Shado beni (Trinidad), Chadron benee (Dominica), Alcapate (El Salvador), Cilantro habanero, Cilantro extranjero (Mexico) Recao (culantro) is an important ingredient in Puerto Rican cooking. The leaves are chopped and added as a spice to most stews and soups.) 1 tablespoon salt 1 tablespoon black pepper DIRECTIONS: 1.In a food processor, combine green peppers, red peppers ajies dulces, tomatoes, onions, and garlic. Add cilantro, recao, salt, and pepper. Process to the consistency of semi-chunky salsa (not watery). Place in a ziplock freezer bag, and use as needed, or freeze in portions. Mike -- piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/ (mawil55) |
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On Feb 11, 11:29 am, Ranée at Arabian Knits >
wrote: > > I wonder why there is an association with poverty and eating game. > We have a dear friend who is a hunter and he brings us all sorts of > wonderful meats. Neither he, nor we are poverty stricken. He enjoys > hunting and the meat, and we enjoy his catch. Now that we live in an > area with more opportunity for hunting, we are looking into it > ourselves. Good point. I have always derived extra satisfaction from providing the sustenance for the table, whether it's through hunting, fishing or gardening. There's something elemental about it. Not to mention it's often the freshest and tastiest. -aem |
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On 2/11/2010 2:29 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
Snip > I wonder why there is an association with poverty and eating game. > We have a dear friend who is a hunter and he brings us all sorts of > wonderful meats. Neither he, nor we are poverty stricken. He enjoys > hunting and the meat, and we enjoy his catch. Now that we live in an > area with more opportunity for hunting, we are looking into it > ourselves. > > Regards, > Ranee @ Arabian Knits The difference is they are always on the look out for game for the simple reason that they have too, never for sport. It is a way of life, from fishing the nearby stream or river on weekends, to going out in the morning for the days meat. Welcome to South Carolina. Mike -- piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/ (mawil55) |
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Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
> In article >, > piedmont > wrote: > >> There are many oven Q recipes as well as game >> recipes for rabbit and venison, things that are still commonly shot to >> supplement those not so fortunate in SC. > > I wonder why there is an association with poverty and eating game. Two words... Free Meat. When you are poor, hunting and fishing can supplement your diet nicely with protein while keeping the grocery bill down. When I was a kid, my parents would routinely take us fishing, clamming, crabbing, etc. Saturday night Fish Frys were a tradition at my house all winter. Fish was free and potatoes were cheap. > We have a dear friend who is a hunter and he brings us all sorts of > wonderful meats. Neither he, nor we are poverty stricken. He enjoys > hunting and the meat, and we enjoy his catch. I used to enjoy shooting.... and I used to hunt but I wasn't so fond of killing things. Still, it was free meat so I did a lot of rabbit hunting, deer hunting, etc. Never shot anything I couldn't eat. As time went on and finances improved, there was less of a need and I haven't been hunting or fishing in many years. Oh... and I admit that I am hypocritical about this. If I had to actually go out and kill a chicken, pig or cow/steer to have meat, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be eating anywhere near as much meat as I do now. I could do it... I have done it.... but I would rather not. George L |
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![]() "Ranée at Arabian Knits" wrote: > > Perhaps that is the case, though I'd argue that they may not be so > unfortunate if they have the skills to provide for themselves and their > families. :-) Gathering eggs each day is part of our daily life, as is > getting the produce from our garden in the summer, but I don't think it > means we are unfortunate. It means you are fortunate to not be in the consumer rat race paying the costs for the 47 people between the farm/ranch and buying the item at the grocery store. I'm in the middle of a plan that will get me out of that nonsense as well, so I won't be buying much except for my coffee from Smith Farms. With the Great Global Tidy Bowl Swirl running at full speed, being largely self sufficient will be a very good thing. Subsistence farming - it's the future. If you don't think it could happen, look at Zimbabwe... |
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Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote: >In article >, > piedmont > wrote: > >> There are many oven Q recipes as well as game >> recipes for rabbit and venison, things that are still commonly shot to >> supplement those not so fortunate in SC. > > I wonder why there is an association with poverty and eating game. Living off the land/free meat. Both my grandfathers grew up on ranches in prime bird-hunting country in California (the Spanish, when they came in, called one of the rivers "Plumas"/"Feather"). My maternal grandfather kept it up during the Depression (he had a job, but sometimes he didn't get paid) and the War (rationing) to feed his family. My paternal grandfather was left fatherless at a young age by a hunting accident - his dad and older brother died in the river - and he didn't hunt (he had a better job, as well), but he sure enjoyed fishing. My mom doesn't remember having "store meat" much. Duck, venison, pheasant? A lot more often. Lots of trout, too. My mom to this day can't eat trout because she had it way too much as a girl. >We have a dear friend who is a hunter and he brings us all sorts of >wonderful meats. Neither he, nor we are poverty stricken. He enjoys >hunting and the meat, and we enjoy his catch. Now that we live in an >area with more opportunity for hunting, we are looking into it >ourselves. There's also the "fun" and "tasty" aspect of it. My grandfather kept it up well after times improved and he didn't really need to do it to put quality protein on the table, because he liked the sport and he liked the game. Charlotte -- |
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:29:56 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> wrote: > I wonder why there is an association with poverty and eating game. Tell that to all the expensive restaurants and butchers who sell game meat. I think the hillbilly/poverty part comes with people who eat possum, squirrel... and other animals like that. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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![]() Melba's Jammin' wrote: > > Funny how times change: now > it can cost big bucks (no pun intended) to acquire the gear and licenses > to legally acquire some game ‹ and some then don't even eat what their > kill. <shrug> It can cost big bucks to go hunting on someone else's land, be it public or private. I believe pretty much every state requires no license and either no tags or free tags for landowners hunting on their own land. |
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![]() "Ranée at Arabian Knits" wrote: > > In article > >, > Melba's Jammin' > wrote: > > > Guessing only, maybe it has something to do with modern life and > > convenience and being able to afford same; that those who can afford to > > purchase are not forced to live off their own land whether by foraging > > (at no or lower cost) or hunting/trapping. Funny how times change: now > > it can cost big bucks (no pun intended) to acquire the gear and licenses > > to legally acquire some game ‹ and some then don't even eat what their > > kill. <shrug> > > That's part of what I was thinking, too. It can actually cost quite > a bit to hunt and fish now. It costs a lot to hunt if you want to hunt on someone else's property, be it private or public. I believe in pretty much all states is costs nothing to hunt on your own property. |
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![]() sf wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:29:56 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits > > wrote: > > > I wonder why there is an association with poverty and eating game. > > Tell that to all the expensive restaurants and butchers who sell game > meat. I think the hillbilly/poverty part comes with people who eat > possum, squirrel... and other animals like that. Hey, don't knock squirrel unless you've tried it. I have and it's perfectly tasty. |
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:33 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:
> In article .com>, > says... >> >> sf wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:29:56 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > I wonder why there is an association with poverty and eating game. >>> >>> Tell that to all the expensive restaurants and butchers who sell game >>> meat. I think the hillbilly/poverty part comes with people who eat >>> possum, squirrel... and other animals like that. >> >> Hey, don't knock squirrel unless you've tried it. I have and it's >> perfectly tasty. > > Yes, it is very good. > > Scotty the least you can be reasonably sure the squirrel is free-range. your pal, blake |
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Pete C. wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote: >> Funny how times change: now >> it can cost big bucks (no pun intended) to acquire the gear and licenses >> to legally acquire some game ‹ and some then don't even eat what their >> kill. <shrug> > > It can cost big bucks to go hunting on someone else's land, be it public > or private. I believe pretty much every state requires no license and > either no tags or free tags for landowners hunting on their own land. And it can cost big bucks to own your own land, yes? Serene -- "I tend to come down on the side of autonomy. Once people are grown up, I believe they have the right to go to hell in the handbasket of their choosing." -- Pat Kight, on alt.polyamory |
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