From The Times
February 16, 2010
Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece

Goomba wrote:

> From The Times
> February 16, 2010
> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece

LOL
There are at least two or three threads on the italian cooking NG about
that, and many posts were an inch near to going into flamewars. As usual
with this kind of news.

I see that the Times has the same disease of italian Corriere della Sera: a
great need to pump-up things to make them appear as a scandal even when
there is no scandal at all.
Bigazzi simply told that many years ago the stewed cat was a common dish in
his area, the valley of the Arno river, where there were even popular quotes
about the poor folks "without meat" who used to eat cats in february, a
harsh month of the year. Nothing more, no recipes and no invites or
recommendations at all.
And he did not say that "meat *should* be "soaked in spring water for three
days" before being stewed." (as the times says) but he said that "people
*used* to soak it three days in the river" (and not spring water).
Morevoer, he never recommended (as the times says) anything: he simply
stated that cat was eaten and that it is good.
Times did the same as italian Corriere della Sera, who got to the point of
writing "Bigazzi invites listeners to stew cats". Times didn't write exactly
that, but that is ecactly what they tried to make the readers think: using
the word "recommending" is sure leading readers to think he pushed that
stewed cat, while he didn't at all. The press... and they complain about
theyr small sales figures? Even too much, I don't know why people should pay
for such a voluntary mis-representation of the reality. News are nowadaya
just another business, lies sell more than thruth so every newspaper is
selling lots of lies.

Anyway, the result? Bigazzi got suspendend from the show for no reason at
all, because he didn't invite nobody to eat cat (that would be a crime
here), he simply stated they taste better than rabbit, and this is no crime
nor misdimeanor since the law (from 1991) forbids to eat cats or butcher
them but it doesn't forbid to say how do they taste. Just as many thousand
food reviewers talk about "sea dates" as the best seafood they have ever
ate: sea-dates are heavily forbidden in almost all of the United Europe, so
why can these guys talk enthisiasthically about sea-dates while Bigazzi can
not say "cat meat tastes good"?

Too many people has pushed theyr love for animals to a point wich is
blatantly ridiculous, but over all the problem is just the press telling
plain lies or reporting heavily distorted facts.

BTW - Bigazzi has never been a chef, he's a kitchen anthusiast with a wide
eno-gastronomical culture, his fulltime lifelong job has been as a manager,
particularly in the oil industry. I see Italy as a prosperous market for the
Times, they write with the same level of errors per paragraph of the
Corriere della Sera, one of the most widespread newspapers here
--
Vilco
Don't think pink: drink rosè

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:17:28 -0500, Goomba wrote:

> From The Times
> February 16, 2010
> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece

tee-hee.

your pal,
felix

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:17:28 -0500, Goomba wrote:
>
>> From The Times
>> February 16, 2010
>> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece
>
> tee-hee.
>
> your pal,
> felix

:

Goomba > wrote in
:

> From The Times
> February 16, 2010
> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...ink/article702
> 9058.ece



Yeah, saw that in the local online news here.

I don't know why people get all bent out of shape about it, at the end of the
day, we're all a source of meat/protein to some other animal in the food
chain.


And yes, I ate cat in China, and dog in Malaysia and Russia.



In some places, you have to eat *whatever* to survive.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrites.

-- Albert Einstein --

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:17:28 -0500, Goomba wrote:

> From The Times
> February 16, 2010
> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece

At 77 years old, I doubt he has much ineterest left in the rest of
his career. And although I'm a cat person, I don't think what he
said was wrong. Imagine the outcry if this happened in the USA? It
would have been 2-3 times as bad.

-zsw

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> From The Times
> February 16, 2010
> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece


Someone like that shouldn't be touted as a 'chef', I don't care how old he
is or where he hails from. That's like saying it's fine if you your local
takeout place serves up cats and dogs they happen to find in the
neighborhood. Sorry, but some things simply aren't accepted cuisine in many
parts of the world.

Jill <-- hugging her cat

"PeterL1." > wrote in message
...
> Goomba > wrote in
> :
>
>> From The Times
>> February 16, 2010
>> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...ink/article702
>> 9058.ece
>
>
>
> Yeah, saw that in the local online news here.
>
> I don't know why people get all bent out of shape about it, at the end of
> the
> day, we're all a source of meat/protein to some other animal in the food
> chain.
>
Oh, so you'd be a cannibal if necessary?
>
> And yes, I ate cat in China, and dog in Malaysia and Russia.
>
I wouldn't brag about that if I were you.

> In some places, you have to eat *whatever* to survive.
>
Don't be an idiot. Italiy is not a third world country. Neither is China,
Malaysia or Russia, for that matter. I'd go vegetariarn before eating
domesticated animals for food.

Jill

On 2/17/2010 3:17 AM, Goomba wrote:
> From The Times
> February 16, 2010
> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece
>

A guy that I used to work for told me that he and his friend's favorite
dish was the pressed duck at a NY Chinese restaurant. He later read in
the papers that the joint was accused with using cats in their pressed
duck. He said he was sad when the place closed down because he "really
liked that pressed duck." :-)

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:15:08 +0100, ViLco wrote:

> Goomba wrote:
>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece
>
> LOL
> There are at least two or three threads on the italian cooking NG about
> that, and many posts were an inch near to going into flamewars. As usual
> with this kind of news.

You mean "... this kind of MEWS".

-sw

Janet Baraclough wrote:

>>> In some places, you have to eat *whatever* to survive.

>> Don't be an idiot. Italiy is not a third world country.

> Beppo Bigazzi was born in 1933. He was speaking of his generation's
> memory and younger experience. Italian civilians suffered
> terrible deprivation and starvation during WW2. Here's an American's
> witness to it
>
> http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/...hunger.aj.html

Very true. Even one of my aunts, who was about 7 in 1944 (the period when
war was here in my area), remembers eating cats those days. My mother was
just 2 so she doesn't remember, but this aunt and my granny do.
They told me that the main difference is in the bones: cats' bones are
almost white, noticeably lighter in color than rabbits' bones.
Guess why chinese restaurants never serve a single bone in a whole open
evening?
LOL
--
Vilco
Don't think pink: drink rosè

jmcquown wrote:

> Someone like that shouldn't be touted as a 'chef', I don't care how
> old he is or where he hails from. That's like saying it's fine if
> you your local takeout place serves up cats and dogs they happen to
> find in the neighborhood. Sorry, but some things simply aren't
> accepted cuisine in many parts of the world.

Don't get fooled by the press writing lies, he talked about memories of the
40's and 50's and he didn't recommend nothing.
--
Vilco
Don't think pink: drink rosè

Sqwertz wrote:

>> LOL
>> There are at least two or three threads on the italian cooking NG
>> about that, and many posts were an inch near to going into
>> flamewars. As usual with this kind of news.

> You mean "... this kind of MEWS".

True, LOL.
Today, day 3 of the argument, some thread in the italian NG started to move
on the flaming ground: kind of the very predictable "Why can I eat a duck
but not a cat?" answer: "Because the law forbids it" rant: "That's a shit
law" and so on.
I need more popcorn ASAP
--
Vilco
Don't think pink: drink rosè

On Feb 18, 4:34*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "PeterL1." > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Goomba > wrote in
> :
>
> >> *From The Times
> >> February 16, 2010
> >> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>
> >>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...d_drink/articl....
> >> 9058.ece
>
> > Yeah, saw that in the local online news here.
>
> > I don't know why people get all bent out of shape about it, at the end of
> > the
> > day, we're all a source of meat/protein to some other animal in the food
> > chain.
>
> Oh, so you'd be a cannibal if necessary?


To stay alive, yes.


>
> > And yes, I ate cat in China, and dog in Malaysia and Russia.
>
> I wouldn't brag about that if I were you.


Not bragging, just stating a fact. Same as I ate whale meat in Norway.
Before that I was nonplussed on the whale issue. Not so afterwards.

But cats and dogs in some countries are a PITA. One only has to look
at the feral cat population in Malaysia. You don't see many dogs
running around loose, but there are lots of cats. Someone needs to
show them how to cook a cat properly.


>
> > In some places, you have to eat *whatever* to survive.
>
> Don't be an idiot.


Get your head out of your ass Jilly Mac. Get your fat ass off the
sofa, move away from your trailer park, and get out in the real world.

You've got parts of your own goddam *country* that could, and should,
be declared 3rd world!!


>*Italiy is not a third world country. *Neither is China,
> Malaysia or Russia, for that matter. *

That just goes to show what an uninformed moronic TV retard you are.

You see the bright lights of a country on TV and you think it's the
ducks guts.

That's OK if you live in the city, in Malaysia, or China, or Russia.
Try looking away from the bright lights of the city. Then you'll see
what 3rd world is.

BTW, have you *ever* even been to any of those countries??

(CUE: Jilly Macs story of when her Dad, as Commander in Chief of the
Airforce, flew her and her mother in to watch him save those
countries!!)

> I'd go vegetariarn before eating
> domesticated animals for food.

Try learning to spell the word first, before you decide to do it,
moron.

But, no matter........ you can starve to death, then the rest of us
can feed off your fat ass.

"ViLco" > wrote in -
september.org:

> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
>>>> In some places, you have to eat *whatever* to survive.
>
>>> Don't be an idiot. Italiy is not a third world country.
>
>> Beppo Bigazzi was born in 1933. He was speaking of his generation's
>> memory and younger experience. Italian civilians suffered
>> terrible deprivation and starvation during WW2. Here's an American's
>> witness to it
>>
>> http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/...hunger.aj.html
>
> Very true. Even one of my aunts, who was about 7 in 1944 (the period
when
> war was here in my area), remembers eating cats those days. My mother
was
> just 2 so she doesn't remember, but this aunt and my granny do.
> They told me that the main difference is in the bones: cats' bones are
> almost white, noticeably lighter in color than rabbits' bones.
> Guess why chinese restaurants never serve a single bone in a whole open
> evening?
> LOL



LOL!! 2 famous Chinese restaurants......

Bow Wow Chow, and Kitty Yum Yum's :-)

Vietnam is a big dog eating country...... but I don't think I'll take the
SO to any of those establishments when we go there. Lends new meaning to
the word 'doggy bag' :-)

She still shudders because I made her eat 'Paddy Rat' in Bali. Big suckers
they were...... about the size of a possum.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrites.

-- Albert Einstein --

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:34:43 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> "PeterL1." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Goomba > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> From The Times
>>> February 16, 2010
>>> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>>>
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...ink/article702
>>> 9058.ece
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, saw that in the local online news here.
>>
>> I don't know why people get all bent out of shape about it, at the end of
>> the
>> day, we're all a source of meat/protein to some other animal in the food
>> chain.
>>
> Oh, so you'd be a cannibal if necessary?
>>
>> And yes, I ate cat in China, and dog in Malaysia and Russia.
>>
> I wouldn't brag about that if I were you.
>
>> In some places, you have to eat *whatever* to survive.
>>
> Don't be an idiot. Italiy is not a third world country. Neither is China,
> Malaysia or Russia, for that matter. I'd go vegetariarn before eating
> domesticated animals for food.
>
> Jill

what do you think chickens, pigs and cows are if not domesticated?

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:31:08 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> "Goomba" > wrote in message
> ...
>> From The Times
>> February 16, 2010
>> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece
>
> Someone like that shouldn't be touted as a 'chef', I don't care how old he
> is or where he hails from. That's like saying it's fine if you your local
> takeout place serves up cats and dogs they happen to find in the
> neighborhood. Sorry, but some things simply aren't accepted cuisine in many
> parts of the world.
>
> Jill <-- hugging her cat

yeah, and a hindu would think you a barbarian for eating the sacred cow.
your outlook is most provincial.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:42:42 -1000, dsi1 wrote:

> On 2/17/2010 3:17 AM, Goomba wrote:
>> From The Times
>> February 16, 2010
>> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece
>>
>
> A guy that I used to work for told me that he and his friend's favorite
> dish was the pressed duck at a NY Chinese restaurant. He later read in
> the papers that the joint was accused with using cats in their pressed
> duck. He said he was sad when the place closed down because he "really
> liked that pressed duck." :-)

i can't imagine anyplace in the u.s. where serving dog or cat would be more
cost-effective than the usual meats. what, are the most junior kitchen
staff sent out in hunting parties?

your pal,
blake

In article >,
says...
>
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:42:42 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On 2/17/2010 3:17 AM, Goomba wrote:
> >> From The Times
> >> February 16, 2010
> >> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
> >>
> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece
> >>
> >
> > A guy that I used to work for told me that he and his friend's favorite
> > dish was the pressed duck at a NY Chinese restaurant. He later read in
> > the papers that the joint was accused with using cats in their pressed
> > duck. He said he was sad when the place closed down because he "really
> > liked that pressed duck." :-)
>
> i can't imagine anyplace in the u.s. where serving dog or cat would be more
> cost-effective than the usual meats. what, are the most junior kitchen
> staff sent out in hunting parties?
>
> your pal,
> blake

Back in the early 80's, Asian refugees moved into a local town in a great
number sponsored by local churches and such. Within a year or two a small city
riddled with stray animals was devoid of any. A good friend of mine (Lau) was
busted for poaching Pigeons under a highway bridge with a BB gun. These folks
did not grow up with the same luxury as most here, I am sure they were very
respectful and didn't waste anything. Even with animals we consider "edible"
they would make wonderful meals with parts of a cow we would normally not eat.
The cud from the second stomach, partially digested was used in some soup
stocks, bones were split and the marrow used similarly. Several families would
buy an animal and butcher it themselves, nothing was wasted but bone and teeth.

If I may wander a bit it was so cool to be exposed to this culture at such a
young age. My pop was in the Grocery bushiness and would come to where we
worked on Fridays with a peck bag full of fresh fruits and veggies and just
hand them out. You would have thought he had just handed a kid a three pound
candy bar. One fall we were putzing around behind the shop in a field. I
noticed wild blueberrys and grapes in the clearings so I popped a few in my
mouth. My friend Daphet asked me what it was and I showed him. That afternoon
after work he loaded his family up in his van and they all brought little
baskets, they cleaned the field out. These folks appreciated and respected
everything they ate.

Fresh water seaweed or "angel hair algae" was used for soups along with local
fresh water snails too. My point I guess is I am sure my friends ate dog and
cat, pigeon, etc. I guess too that they treated whatever they ate with respect
and reverence in relation to their own beliefs, I had no problem with it
myself. In fact I respected it and as noted before here, adopted a very similar
lifestyle for almost a decade.

Scotty


OK... funny story. For years while I worked with my Lau friends they always
teased me that "you can not die until you eat dog" and they all would laugh as
we sat at the lunch table. One day I noticed a different meat in the stew and
asked several times what the meat was. They answered "people meat" as was
another ongoing taunt they teased us Americans with Later that day as we
clocked out Kong looked over at me and said "hey big why (sic) guy"... "you can
die now"... jerk..

Ok, now I will stop...

Scotty
--
Can I haz Cheezeburger?

On 2/18/2010 7:57 AM, blake murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:42:42 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On 2/17/2010 3:17 AM, Goomba wrote:
>>> From The Times
>>> February 16, 2010
>>> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>>>
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece
>>>
>>
>> A guy that I used to work for told me that he and his friend's favorite
>> dish was the pressed duck at a NY Chinese restaurant. He later read in
>> the papers that the joint was accused with using cats in their pressed
>> duck. He said he was sad when the place closed down because he "really
>> liked that pressed duck." :-)
>
> i can't imagine anyplace in the u.s. where serving dog or cat would be more
> cost-effective than the usual meats. what, are the most junior kitchen
> staff sent out in hunting parties?

Your problem is that you're thinking this out too much, no wait... my
problem is that you're thinking this out too much. The economics of cat
vs. duck in 60s NYC is not within my base of knowledge but my boss has
been known to fluff up a story every now and then. Come to think of it,
so have I. :-)

OTOH, you have a point. Why risk the social stigma of killing cute
little kitty-cats for a few measly oz of meat when you can pick up a big
pork roast dirt cheap? Pork... Yummy! :-)

OTOOH:

http://www.starbulletin.com/news/haw...il_tim e.html



>
> your pal,
> blake

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:11:29 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:42:42 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/17/2010 3:17 AM, Goomba wrote:
>>>> From The Times
>>>> February 16, 2010
>>>> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>>>>
>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle7029058.ece
>>>>
>>>
>>> A guy that I used to work for told me that he and his friend's favorite
>>> dish was the pressed duck at a NY Chinese restaurant. He later read in
>>> the papers that the joint was accused with using cats in their pressed
>>> duck. He said he was sad when the place closed down because he "really
>>> liked that pressed duck." :-)
>>
>> i can't imagine anyplace in the u.s. where serving dog or cat would be more
>> cost-effective than the usual meats. what, are the most junior kitchen
>> staff sent out in hunting parties?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Back in the early 80's, Asian refugees moved into a local town in a great
> number sponsored by local churches and such. Within a year or two a small city
> riddled with stray animals was devoid of any. A good friend of mine (Lau) was
> busted for poaching Pigeons under a highway bridge with a BB gun. These folks
> did not grow up with the same luxury as most here, I am sure they were very
> respectful and didn't waste anything. Even with animals we consider "edible"
> they would make wonderful meals with parts of a cow we would normally not eat.
> The cud from the second stomach, partially digested was used in some soup
> stocks, bones were split and the marrow used similarly. Several families would
> buy an animal and butcher it themselves, nothing was wasted but bone and teeth.

i understand all that. i'm not saying that these animals aren't eaten in
the u.s., i'm saying that tales of them *sold in restaurants* are likely
bogus.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
says...

> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> > Back in the early 80's, Asian refugees moved into a local town in a great
> > number sponsored by local churches and such. Within a year or two a small city
> > riddled with stray animals was devoid of any. A good friend of mine (Lau) was
> > busted for poaching Pigeons under a highway bridge with a BB gun. These folks
> > did not grow up with the same luxury as most here, I am sure they were very
> > respectful and didn't waste anything. Even with animals we consider "edible"
> > they would make wonderful meals with parts of a cow we would normally not eat.
> > The cud from the second stomach, partially digested was used in some soup
> > stocks, bones were split and the marrow used similarly. Several families would
> > buy an animal and butcher it themselves, nothing was wasted but bone and teeth.
>
> i understand all that. i'm not saying that these animals aren't eaten in
> the u.s., i'm saying that tales of them *sold in restaurants* are likely
> bogus.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Well, I do know of one that was. Back in the early 80's I used to eat at a
particular Asian Restaurant. It was a sit down place, not a takeout with a
couple of tables, very nice place. They got busted by the health dept with cat
in the freezer and swore it was for their own consumption, it was in the local
paper so I didn't doubt it. Either way, I doubt I was ever served cat there and
my bud and I continued taking dates there a couple times a week.

Scotty



--
Can I haz Cheezeburger?

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Don't be an idiot. Italiy is not a third world country. Neither is China,
> Malaysia or Russia, for that matter. I'd go vegetariarn before eating
> domesticated animals for food.
>
> Jill

Um, be careful how you phrase that.
Cow, sheep, pigs, chickens and turkeys are all "domesticated". ;-)

But I'd not eat domesticated HOUSE PETS for food either.
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>,
"PeterLucas (o/s)" > wrote:

> > Oh, so you'd be a cannibal if necessary?
>
>
> To stay alive, yes.

I would not.

Body fat has it's uses. One can fast for up to a month without starving
to death. People that think they need to eat every single day are sadly
deluded.

The longest I've ever fasted was 2 weeks and I still went to the gym 3
days per week and went to work. It was no big deal.
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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:31:08 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > "Goomba" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> From The Times
> >> February 16, 2010
> >> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
> >>
> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...k/article70290
> >> 58.ece
> >
> > Someone like that shouldn't be touted as a 'chef', I don't care how old he
> > is or where he hails from. That's like saying it's fine if you your local
> > takeout place serves up cats and dogs they happen to find in the
> > neighborhood. Sorry, but some things simply aren't accepted cuisine in
> > many
> > parts of the world.
> >
> > Jill <-- hugging her cat
>
> yeah, and a hindu would think you a barbarian for eating the sacred cow.
> your outlook is most provincial.
>
> your pal,
> blake

I'm with Jill. I'd never eat cat or dog.
Not if I knew about it anyway...

Om -> with Isis the black fur kitty purring in her lap...
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Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-D6A0A2.07334020022010
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> In article
> >,
> "PeterLucas (o/s)" > wrote:
>
>> > Oh, so you'd be a cannibal if necessary?
>>
>>
>> To stay alive, yes.
>
> I would not.
>
> Body fat has it's uses. One can fast for up to a month without starving
> to death. People that think they need to eat every single day are sadly
> deluded.
>
> The longest I've ever fasted was 2 weeks and I still went to the gym 3
> days per week and went to work. It was no big deal.



I'm talking *extreme* circumstances here.


Not the ...... "Oh, we've been in a plane crash, it's been 3 hours, lets
cut someone up and eat them" thing.


Last resort, to stay alive...... all you humans taste like pork ;-)


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Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> Don't be an idiot. Italiy is not a third world country. Neither is
>> China, Malaysia or Russia, for that matter. I'd go vegetariarn before
>> eating domesticated animals for food.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Um, be careful how you phrase that.
> Cow, sheep, pigs, chickens and turkeys are all "domesticated". ;-)



Jilly just lets her mouth run off most times...... you have to make
allowances.


>
> But I'd not eat domesticated HOUSE PETS for food either.



I've never eaten anyones domesticated house pet either.


Ummmmmmm, but thinking back on it.......... I was in a Russian Military
Training Camp back in '92, and the cook used to have a new dog every 3
days or so. And every 3 days or so, we'd have meat on the menu.


I had a mantra, "It's protein, don't look at it, don't smell it, and don't
turn it over.... just eat it."


I survived.


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Omelet > wrote in
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> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> Don't be an idiot. Italiy is not a third world country. Neither is
>> China, Malaysia or Russia, for that matter. I'd go vegetariarn before
>> eating domesticated animals for food.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Um, be careful how you phrase that.
> Cow, sheep, pigs, chickens and turkeys are all "domesticated". ;-)



Jilly just has some psychic connection with me...... its like we are
of one mind. So anything you say to her, you say to me...........


> But I'd not eat domesticated HOUSE PETS for food either.



I've never eaten anyones domesticated house pet either, apart from
Ruth's little red spotted 'mice' I find in the bathroom waste bin.


Ummmmmmm, but thinking back on it.......... I was in a Prussian
Military
Training Camp back in '71, and the cook used to squeeze out a new log
every 3
days or so. And every 3 days or so, we'd have 'chocolate' meat on the
menu.


I had a mantra, "It's protein, don't look at it, don't smell it, and
don't
turn it over.... just eat it."


I survived, physically.... if not mentally.

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Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-
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@news-wc.giganews.com:

> In article
> >,
> "PeterLucas (o/s)" > wrote:
>
>> > Oh, so you'd be a cannibal if necessary?
>>
>>
>> To stay alive, yes.
>
> I would not.
>
> Body fat has it's uses. One can fast for up to a month without starving
> to death. People that think they need to eat every single day are sadly
> deluded.
>
> The longest I've ever fasted was 2 weeks and I still went to the gym 3
> days per week and went to work. It was no big deal.



I'm talking *trivial* circumstances here.


Not the ...... "Oh, we've been in a plane crash, it's been 3 weeks,
lets
cut someone up and eat them" thing.


Last resort, and a plausible excuse...... all you humans taste like
pork.

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On Feb 18, 2:34*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "PeterL1." > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Goomba > wrote in
> :
>
> >> *From The Times
> >> February 16, 2010
> >> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>
> >>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...d_drink/articl....
> >> 9058.ece
>
> > Yeah, saw that in the local online news here.
>
> > I don't know why people get all bent out of shape about it, at the end of
> > the
> > day, we're all a source of meat/protein to some other animal in the food
> > chain.
>
> Oh, so you'd be a cannibal if necessary?
>
> > And yes, I ate cat in China, and dog in Malaysia and Russia.
>
> I wouldn't brag about that if I were you.
>
> > In some places, you have to eat *whatever* to survive.
>
> Don't be an idiot. *Italiy is not a third world country. *Neither is China,
> Malaysia or Russia, for that matter. *I'd go vegetariarn before eating
> domesticated animals for food.
>
> Jill

China has TENS OF MILLIONS of people damned near starvation every
year
The evil Government just hides the fact

How about eating feral animals or other animals? Does that go down
well with you?

What the bloody hell would your call live stock they are pretty
tame .
BTW I have eaten all sorts of stuff in various places still
here and
as motor mouth said .You eat what you can to survive or keep
energy and carbo's up .

On Feb 19, 3:11*am, I am Tosk >
wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:42:42 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > > On 2/17/2010 3:17 AM, Goomba wrote:
> > >> *From The Times
> > >> February 16, 2010
> > >> Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
>
> > >>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...d_drink/articl....
>
> > > A guy that I used to work for told me that he and his friend's favorite
> > > dish was the pressed duck at a NY Chinese restaurant. He later read in
> > > the papers that the joint was accused with using cats in their pressed
> > > duck. He said he was sad when the place closed down because he "really
> > > liked that pressed duck." :-)
>
> > i can't imagine anyplace in the u.s. where serving dog or cat would be more
> > cost-effective than the usual meats. *what, are the most junior kitchen
> > staff sent out in hunting parties?
>
> > your pal,
> > blake
>
> Back in the early 80's, Asian refugees moved into a local town in a great
> number sponsored by local churches and such. Within a year or two a small city
> riddled with stray animals was devoid of any. A good friend of mine (Lau) was
> busted for poaching Pigeons under a highway bridge with a BB gun. These folks
> did not grow up with the same luxury as most here, I am sure they were very
> respectful and didn't waste anything. Even with animals we consider "edible"
> they would make wonderful meals with parts of a cow we would normally not eat.
> The cud from the second stomach, partially digested was used in some soup
> stocks, bones were split and the marrow used similarly. Several families would
> buy an animal and butcher it themselves, nothing was wasted but bone and teeth.
>
> If I may wander a bit it was so cool to be exposed to this culture at such a
> young age. My pop was in the Grocery bushiness and would come to where we
> worked on Fridays with a peck bag full of fresh fruits and veggies and just
> hand them out. You would have thought he had just handed a kid a three pound
> candy bar. One fall we were putzing around behind the shop in a field. I
> noticed wild blueberrys and grapes in the clearings so I popped a few in my
> mouth. My friend Daphet asked me what it was and I showed him. That afternoon
> after work he loaded his family up in his van and they all brought little
> baskets, they cleaned the field out. These folks appreciated and respected
> everything they ate.
>
> Fresh water seaweed or "angel hair algae" was used for soups along with local
> fresh water snails too. My point I guess is I am sure my friends ate dog and
> cat, pigeon, etc. I guess too that they treated whatever they ate with respect
> and reverence in relation to their own beliefs, I had no problem with it
> myself. In fact I respected it and as noted before here, adopted a very similar
> lifestyle for almost a decade.
>
> Scotty
>
> OK... funny story. For years while I worked with my Lau friends they always
> teased me that "you can not die until you eat dog" and they all would laugh as
> we sat at the lunch table. One day I noticed a different meat in the stew and
> asked several times what the meat was. They answered "people meat" as was
> another ongoing taunt they teased us Americans with Later that day as we
> clocked out Kong looked over at me and said "hey big why (sic) guy"... "you can
> die now"... jerk..
>
> Ok, now I will stop...
>
> Scotty
> --
> Can I haz Cheezeburger?

Good Post -agree