In article >,
says...
>
> On Feb 26, 10:57*am, I am Tosk >
> wrote:
> > In article >,
> >
> >
> > > A good sharp knife and a good box grater (that I use enough, the grater
> > > is actually stored on the back of the stove) work very quickly unless
> > > you are prepping a huge amount of food.
> >
> > > I cook for two.
> >
> > > If you are good with either one, the results are nearly as fast. ;-)
> >
> > > But, enjoy the toy!
> >
> > I throw the bowl and blades into the dishwasher. Couldn't be easier. I buy most
> > appliances with the dishwasher in mind. The deep fryer I bought goes in there
> > too.
> >
> > Scotty
> >
> >
> The only dishwasher I have are the two hanging off the ends of my
> arms. I do have a good scrub brush with a long handle that I find
> does quite nicely for some hard to reach places on a few items.

Years ago we put one in to help the kids get chores done faster during the
school year. Also, we have a septic tank which is decades old and we try to use
as little water as possible and the dishwasher uses less than the kids doing a
sinkload.

Scotty

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In article > ,
"Janet Bostwick" > wrote:

> New pots and pans and cooking devices make cooking fun.

Nah, it just makes your kitchen colorful. :-)

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"Kris" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:46:16 -0600, Andy > wrote:
>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> They were not expensive, but they have just enough weight and
>> beautiful
>> >> lines. The bottoms are thick aluminum plated anodyzed steel, sides
>> >> aluminum very highly polished, tops heavyish glass.
>> >>
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/ya6vxr2
>> >>
>> > You got those?
>>
>>
>> Those bellied pots always struck me as bad design. How can you ever pour
>> out the entire contents without leaving some behind caught under the lip?
>> Cleaning them must be a headache too.
>>
>> Form ever follows function, except in this case.
>
> IIRC, and I can't find the article right now, the belly pots scored
> pretty low with Cook's Illustrated for the reasons you mentioned and
> problems with heat distribution because of the bulging, among other
> things. I think they're cute, though! :-D
>
> And no more glass lids for me. Too hard to get the crud out of them.
> I've been looking at these for awhile:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Tramontina-Pie.../dp/B000LMJLWA
>
> Way down on the wish list. Cook's Illustrated compared them to an
> All-Clad $800 set. They've moved up on the WL, but they aren't in my
> house yet. :-) I did pick up one of the open stock pieces, as the
> pan sizes in the set tend to the smallish side. I love it.
>
>
Copper Clad has three problems that make me run the other way.

1. Most of the Copperclad pans don't have a pouring lip. You can't pour
to the drop in a pan with a flat outer surface or edge. You can on any
Cuisinart.
2. On the stove cladding with aluminum or copper makes no sense to me at
all. The amount of heat that creeps up the side is miniscule. It's a sales
gimmick. Most important, this makes the pan far heavier than it needs to be.
3. It's too bloody expensive.

I wish Cuisinart hadn't taken their products to a middle of the road quality
and price. Our 25 year old cladded copper Cuisinart cookware looks and cooks
the same as when new.

Kent

Omelet wrote:
> itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
>
>> Every time I watch America's Test Kitchen and many of the other decent
>> cooking shows EVERYTHING begins in a food processor and the recipes
>> seem to come together rather quickly and easily. I thought I would
>> join the 21st century.
>
> Like most kitchen toys, you will love a food processor when you first
> get one. I used mine a lot for about 6 months or so but it was such a
> pain to clean, I finally fell out of love with it. It's been in it's
> box in the pantry now for about the past 5 or 6 years. I'm thinking of
> giving it to my sister.

If I used mine like they use them on TV I would need a row of ten of
them in the kitchen and a much larger dishwasher. It's one of the
items that seems to stay on the counter and get used enough to stay
there but it isn't used anything like as often as I seen them used on
TV.

No way it can be cleaned in time to use it for a second use. Take it
apart and put the parts in the dishwasher. It's ready to go the next
day for the next use.

sf wrote:
> Andy > wrote:
>
>> I collect copper -- my reason for getting out of bed early Saturday
>> morning for the garage and yard sales.
>
>> For the longest time I've been seduced by copper cookware but aside from
>> being outrageously expensive, they are gaudy!
>
> You still find copper at garage sales where you live? Wow.

My MIL collected them from gargage sales for many years. She didn't
find one every year but across decades she gathered a sizable set. When
she died they all got shipped to other family. My wife isn't as extreme
as I am about wanting every kitchen item without exception to go in the
dishwasher but she does agree with me that all non-cast-iron cookware
should go in the machine.

sf wrote:
>
> I'm just asking about the anodized steel part.

Anodized steel sure does sound like a fancy term for rust. It's got to
be a poor translation of a term that would make sense. Maybe a baked on
coating. Maybe anodized on one surface, stainless on another - There
was an All Clad line like that at one time.

On 2010-02-26, Doug Freyburger > wrote:

> Anodized steel sure does sound like a fancy term for rust. It's got to
> be a poor translation of a term that would make sense. Maybe a baked on
> coating. Maybe anodized on one surface, stainless on another - There
> was an All Clad line like that at one time.

She was mistaken. Anodizing is a surface hardening process for
aluminum. Steel, being hard enough, doesn't need it. Non-stick and
enamaled is the most common coatings for steel cookware, primarily for
cosmetic and ease of cleaning reasons.

nb

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:21:42 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Omelet wrote:
>> Like most kitchen toys, you will love a food processor when you first
>> get one. I used mine a lot for about 6 months or so but it was such a
>> pain to clean, I finally fell out of love with it. It's been in it's
>> box in the pantry now for about the past 5 or 6 years. I'm thinking of
>> giving it to my sister.
>>
>> A good sharp knife and a good box grater (that I use enough, the grater
>> is actually stored on the back of the stove) work very quickly unless
>> you are prepping a huge amount of food.
>>
>> I cook for two.
>>
>> If you are good with either one, the results are nearly as fast. ;-)
>>
>> But, enjoy the toy!
>
>MANY years ago now, I gave my food processor to someone who used
>to post on rfc. I have probably (briefly) wished I had it twice
>in the ensuing period.

I see no point to a food processor... for veggies it can't do anything
quicker AND better than I can with a knife.... I've yet to see a food
processor that can cut veggies to my satisfation... I once had a top
of the line 11 quart cuisinart that after trying it a few times never
used it again... years later I tried to give it away but no one wanted
it so I tossed it in the trash. All a food processor can do is
*masticate* (or is that masturcate) veggies and I can actually chew
veggies neater with my teeth. I gotta peel and prep anyway, may as
well finish the job with the same knife in hand... if I'm gonna pay
good money for nice veggies I don't want them all mangled into
non-descript bits n' pieces.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:19:27 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>> No. As it turns out, " impact bonded encapsulated aluminum bottom." The
>> glass tops are heavy and I love the mirror-polished outsides. It's the
>> shape
>> I like the best. This brand it Belk's store brand.
>
> Aha, that answers my other post. We don't have a Belk's here (that I
> know of at least).
>>
>> BiltmoreT For Your Home Belly Shaped 13pc. Cookware Set
>> Made of the highest quality professional stainless steel with an impact
>> bonded encapsulated aluminum bottom. Suitable for most cooking surfaces
>> including: Calrod, smooth top and gas. Tempered glass steam vented lids
>> have
>> a wide stainless steel rim for protection. Set includes 1.6 Qt covered
>> saucepan with double pour spout, 2.3 qt covered saucepan, 3.4 Qt covered
>> saucepan, 8" and 9.5" open non stick fry pans, 11" covered saute pan, 7.1
>> qt
>> covered stock pot, and a steamer insert that fits the 3.4 qt saucepan.
>> Broiler safe.
>>
> I can see getting a lot of use out of the pots, but would you get
> enough use out of the pans to merit buying a set? The price is
> certainly right.
>
It was so not a practical purchase. I wanted them because they look
beautiful and feel great. I am having lots of house guests coming up through
the summer, and I could just see them sitting on the stove. Very unusual
reason to buy for me.

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:02:57 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann
> > wrote:
>
>> I've never been a fan of the 'pot belly' pans either and for the same
>> reasons cited here.
>
> I only have one and don't have a problem with it, but maybe it's big
> enough that I wouldn't. I think "pot belly" pots are cute.
>
Well, cute trumps function every time then!
<eye roll>

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
>> I gotta agree with you here. Hate the glass lids,
>
> What do you have against the glass lids? Just curious. I have one that
> covers my non-stick skillet and the cheap dutch oven I bought at Fleet
> Farm (the lid came with the dutch oven) and I like it a lot. It fits
> both pans nicely.

I don't wanna baby it against breakage. Do they go into a super hot oven
okay?

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:03:55 -0500, Goomba >
wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:02:57 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I've never been a fan of the 'pot belly' pans either and for the same
> >> reasons cited here.
> >
> > I only have one and don't have a problem with it, but maybe it's big
> > enough that I wouldn't. I think "pot belly" pots are cute.
> >
> Well, cute trumps function every time then!
> <eye roll>

<eye roll right back at you> I'm beginning to think you're a complete
clutz in the kitchen.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:58:45 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> I like to support local brick and mortar stores when I can.

Me too, but I simply do not like buying over the internet. I want to
see it and feel it before I buy it. Since I have to go to a brick and
mortar store to do it, I will support that store.


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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article > ,
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote:
>
>> New pots and pans and cooking devices make cooking fun.
>
> Nah, it just makes your kitchen colorful. :-)
>
Oh yeah, I can agree here. I love my deep cornflower blue Le Creuset
Dutch oven and it just makes me happy to see it when its sitting on the
stovetop. But it is also a very functional tool too!

sf wrote:

> <eye roll right back at you> I'm beginning to think you're a complete
> clutz in the kitchen.
>
Not at all. I just like sturdy.

On 2010-02-26, Kris > wrote:

> It is unidentified, creepy crud. :-D It's around the edge where the
> glass meets the metal rim.

Notbob's Incredibly Lazy Kitchen Tricks No 34

Try oven cleaner.

nb

In article
>,
itsjoannotjoann > wrote:

> > I cook for two.
> >
> > If you are good with either one, the results are nearly as fast. ;-)
> >
> > But, enjoy the toy!
> > --
> > Peace! Om
> >
> >
> I'm pretty decent with a knife and do keep them very sharp which I
> find is a pleasure to use, but I just hate box graters!! I know they
> do a good job, but I'd rather do anything than have to use one. Why
> is the food processor so hard to clean??

So many pieces I guess. The box grater I just use a brush on and a knife
is so quick to clean, dry and put away. Either one just takes seconds.

I guess it's a matter of perspective? <shrugs>
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In article >,
I am Tosk > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
>
> > Like most kitchen toys, you will love a food processor when you first
> > get one. I used mine a lot for about 6 months or so but it was such a
> > pain to clean, I finally fell out of love with it. It's been in it's
> > box in the pantry now for about the past 5 or 6 years. I'm thinking of
> > giving it to my sister.
> >
> > A good sharp knife and a good box grater (that I use enough, the grater
> > is actually stored on the back of the stove) work very quickly unless
> > you are prepping a huge amount of food.
> >
> > I cook for two.
> >
> > If you are good with either one, the results are nearly as fast. ;-)
> >
> > But, enjoy the toy!
>
> I throw the bowl and blades into the dishwasher. Couldn't be easier. I buy
> most
> appliances with the dishwasher in mind. The deep fryer I bought goes in there
> too.
>
> Scotty

Okay, I don't own a dishwasher. That may make the difference. I have to
scrub all the bits by hand.
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In article >, "Jean B." >
wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > Like most kitchen toys, you will love a food processor when you first
> > get one. I used mine a lot for about 6 months or so but it was such a
> > pain to clean, I finally fell out of love with it. It's been in it's
> > box in the pantry now for about the past 5 or 6 years. I'm thinking of
> > giving it to my sister.
> >
> > A good sharp knife and a good box grater (that I use enough, the grater
> > is actually stored on the back of the stove) work very quickly unless
> > you are prepping a huge amount of food.
> >
> > I cook for two.
> >
> > If you are good with either one, the results are nearly as fast. ;-)
> >
> > But, enjoy the toy!
>
> MANY years ago now, I gave my food processor to someone who used
> to post on rfc. I have probably (briefly) wished I had it twice
> in the ensuing period.

<laughs> Thanks! I was beginning to think I was alone!
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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:44:11 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann
> > wrote:
>
> > I'm pretty decent with a knife and do keep them very sharp which I
> > find is a pleasure to use, but I just hate box graters!! I know they
> > do a good job, but I'd rather do anything than have to use one. Why
> > is the food processor so hard to clean??
>
> People complain, but I don't find it hard at all. What you need to do
> is find a pointed brush to clean inside the blade doohickey. Other
> than that, it's a piece of cake. Most of the time hot water, soap and
> a dish brush do the trick. Every so often you need to run it through
> the dishwasher... which is no more than once a year for me.

I have a long handled scrub brush that I use for cleaning graters and
anything else that needs a good "reach". I replace the brushes probably
annually or so. They are inexpensive.

I do not own a dishwasher and am not plumbed for one.
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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:16:07 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>
> > On Feb 26, 10:14*am, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> >> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:27:42 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann
> >>
> >>
> >>>> >I've got a red KitchenAid food processor being delivered today by
> >>>> >FedEx and it should match KitchenAid empire red artisan mixer nicely.
> >>>> >I'll probably stare at it for several days before I use it, I'll be so
> >>>> >dazzled.
> >>
> >>>> Geeze... imagine how excited you'd be by a big red dildo! LOL
> >>
> >>>Eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwww! * They make them in red?? *They couldn't possibly
> >>>compare with KitchenAid's empire red color.
> >>
> >> Every color of the rainbow, and shiny!
> >> Search <big red dildo>, I dare you! hehe
> >>
> >>
> > Er, ummm, ah, I'm going to be busy the rest of my life. I think I'll
> > have to pass.
>
> sheldon swears by his.
>
> your pal,
> blake

<coughs>

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Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
> > I gotta agree with you here. Hate the glass lids,
>
> What do you have against the glass lids? Just curious. I have one that
> covers my non-stick skillet and the cheap dutch oven I bought at Fleet
> Farm (the lid came with the dutch oven) and I like it a lot. It fits
> both pans nicely.

I have a couple of corningware glass covers that fit two of my cast iron
frying pans I use a lot. I love them, but they are solid glass without
those plastic handles. Don't know if that makes a difference...

My crockpot also has a glass lid _with_ the plastic handle.

I like it too.

The two lids that fit the cast iron are happy happenstance. Random fits,
but I'm very glad for them.
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>,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> In article >,
> Kris > wrote:
>
> > And no more glass lids for me. Too hard to get the crud out of them.
>
> ??? What crud and where is it collecting?

I had the same question. I've never ever had issues with crud sticking
to any glass cookware, including glass bakeware.
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"Kris" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:01:24 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Kris > wrote:
>>
>> > And no more glass lids for me. Too hard to get the crud out of them.
>>
>> ??? What crud and where is it collecting?
>
> It is unidentified, creepy crud. :-D It's around the edge where the
> glass meets the metal rim. I just realized, maybe I'm the only one
> with glass lids with metal rims! I have no problem with my all-glass
> lids. :-)

Mine have metal rims. I'll keep you posted.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:58:45 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>> I like to support local brick and mortar stores when I can.
>
> Me too, but I simply do not like buying over the internet. I want to
> see it and feel it before I buy it. Since I have to go to a brick and
> mortar store to do it, I will support that store.
>
I love Belk because you have to go through the perfume and accessories to
get to anything, from where I park. They have really good quality housewares
there, too. Nice quality.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:03:55 -0500, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:02:57 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've never been a fan of the 'pot belly' pans either and for the same
>> >> reasons cited here.
>> >
>> > I only have one and don't have a problem with it, but maybe it's big
>> > enough that I wouldn't. I think "pot belly" pots are cute.
>> >
>> Well, cute trumps function every time then!
>> <eye roll>
>
> <eye roll right back at you> I'm beginning to think you're a complete
> clutz in the kitchen.
>
I think the word you are looking for is "asshole." You're welcome.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "cybercat" > wrote:
>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> > You got those?
>>
>> I did.
>
> Good on you!! Let us know how they work for you. I'm curious about how
> you like the glass lids, too.
>
I will report back. But I am a sucker for beautiful things. I actually see
few things in the way of kitchen stuff that I think are beautiful. Lamps and
handbags are a big problem too.

brooklyn1 wrote:
> I see no point to a food processor... for veggies it can't do anything
> quicker AND better than I can with a knife.... I've yet to see a food
> processor that can cut veggies to my satisfation... I once had a top
> of the line 11 quart cuisinart that after trying it a few times never
> used it again... years later I tried to give it away but no one wanted
> it so I tossed it in the trash. All a food processor can do is
> *masticate* (or is that masturcate) veggies and I can actually chew
> veggies neater with my teeth. I gotta peel and prep anyway, may as
> well finish the job with the same knife in hand... if I'm gonna pay
> good money for nice veggies I don't want them all mangled into
> non-descript bits n' pieces.

Yes, that's part of the problem: the results are so uneven. I
like chopping, mincing, etc. by hand and find the results to be
much more appealing.

--
Jean B.

In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:21:42 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
> >Omelet wrote:
> >> Like most kitchen toys, you will love a food processor when you first
> >> get one. I used mine a lot for about 6 months or so but it was such a
> >> pain to clean, I finally fell out of love with it. It's been in it's
> >> box in the pantry now for about the past 5 or 6 years. I'm thinking of
> >> giving it to my sister.
> >>
> >> A good sharp knife and a good box grater (that I use enough, the grater
> >> is actually stored on the back of the stove) work very quickly unless
> >> you are prepping a huge amount of food.
> >>
> >> I cook for two.
> >>
> >> If you are good with either one, the results are nearly as fast. ;-)
> >>
> >> But, enjoy the toy!
> >
> >MANY years ago now, I gave my food processor to someone who used
> >to post on rfc. I have probably (briefly) wished I had it twice
> >in the ensuing period.
>
> I see no point to a food processor... for veggies it can't do anything
> quicker AND better than I can with a knife.... I've yet to see a food
> processor that can cut veggies to my satisfation... I once had a top
> of the line 11 quart cuisinart that after trying it a few times never
> used it again... years later I tried to give it away but no one wanted
> it so I tossed it in the trash. All a food processor can do is
> *masticate* (or is that masturcate) veggies and I can actually chew
> veggies neater with my teeth. I gotta peel and prep anyway, may as
> well finish the job with the same knife in hand... if I'm gonna pay
> good money for nice veggies I don't want them all mangled into
> non-descript bits n' pieces.

I actually think a food processor has uses, mainly for stir fry.
I just don't cook that on a daily basis so my chinese chef's knife (to
me) is more useful than a food processor just because it's easier to
clean. And _you_ only cook for one plus the kitties.<g>

I'd not denigrate it's use to anyone that finds it handy, it's just that
I no longer do...
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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:03:55 -0500, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:02:57 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I've never been a fan of the 'pot belly' pans either and for the same
> > >> reasons cited here.
> > >
> > > I only have one and don't have a problem with it, but maybe it's big
> > > enough that I wouldn't. I think "pot belly" pots are cute.
> > >
> > Well, cute trumps function every time then!
> > <eye roll>
>
> <eye roll right back at you> I'm beginning to think you're a complete
> clutz in the kitchen.

She must be...
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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri 26 Feb 2010 10:04:14a, cybercat wrote in rec.food.cooking
> >:
>
>>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> They were not expensive, but they have just enough weight and
>>>> beautiful lines. The bottoms are thick aluminum plated
>>>> anodyzed steel, sides aluminum very highly polished, tops
>>>> heavyish glass.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ya6vxr2
>>>>
>>> You got those?
>>
>> I did. Why are you smiling? Should I smile too?
>>
>>
>>
>
> I was just in a smiling mood. It passed. For real though, those are
> cute.

*beam* I am glad you like them. Now, really, why were you smiling? Did you
picture me braising my stew meat at a witch's cauldron?

In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > What do you have against the glass lids? Just curious.

> I don't wanna baby it against breakage. Do they go into a super hot oven
> okay?

No idea. I don't use the dutch oven or the skillet in the oven. :-\

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Goomba replied to sf:

>> I think "pot belly" pots are cute.
>>
> Well, cute trumps function every time then!
> <eye roll>

If you're using it as a serving vessel, then cuteness *is* important. I've
kept a little enameled yellow pot for decades because of its cuteness. It
sucks for cooking most things, but it looks good on the table, so I keep it
for things like fondue or shabu-shabu.

Bob

In article >,
Kris > wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:54:06 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > Kris > wrote:
> > >
> > > > And no more glass lids for me. Too hard to get the crud out of them.
> > >
> > > ??? What crud and where is it collecting?
> >
> > I had the same question. I've never ever had issues with crud sticking
> > to any glass cookware, including glass bakeware.
>
> There's a lip there, for lack of a better word. About a 1/4-inch
> space where the metal overlaps the glass. And I didn't even notice
> for a long time that stuff was building up in there. I've tried
> everything I can think of to get it out, but I don't have anything to
> reach it with. The space is paper thin. Large enough for gunkies to
> get in, but not enough space to clean it out. :-)

Try a little oven cleaner? And sunlight.
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In article >, "Jean B." >
wrote:

> brooklyn1 wrote:
> > I see no point to a food processor... for veggies it can't do anything
> > quicker AND better than I can with a knife.... I've yet to see a food
> > processor that can cut veggies to my satisfation... I once had a top
> > of the line 11 quart cuisinart that after trying it a few times never
> > used it again... years later I tried to give it away but no one wanted
> > it so I tossed it in the trash. All a food processor can do is
> > *masticate* (or is that masturcate) veggies and I can actually chew
> > veggies neater with my teeth. I gotta peel and prep anyway, may as
> > well finish the job with the same knife in hand... if I'm gonna pay
> > good money for nice veggies I don't want them all mangled into
> > non-descript bits n' pieces.
>
> Yes, that's part of the problem: the results are so uneven. I
> like chopping, mincing, etc. by hand and find the results to be
> much more appealing.

Pretty much the same here, but still find the box grater useful for some
stuff. It gives me good control.
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Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz wrote:

> I see no point to a food processor... for veggies it can't do anything
> quicker AND better than I can with a knife.... I've yet to see a food
> processor that can cut veggies to my satisfation... I once had a top
> of the line 11 quart cuisinart that after trying it a few times never
> used it again... years later I tried to give it away but no one wanted
> it so I tossed it in the trash. All a food processor can do is
> *masticate* (or is that masturcate) veggies and I can actually chew
> veggies neater with my teeth. I gotta peel and prep anyway, may as
> well finish the job with the same knife in hand... if I'm gonna pay
> good money for nice veggies I don't want them all mangled into
> non-descript bits n' pieces.

First off, "if you're going to post diatribes filled with gibberish, proof
read, you illiterate newbie *******."
--Pussy writing in rfc, March 25, 2007, ignorant of the fact that
"proofread" is one word, just as he is ignorant of the fact that
"nondescript" isn't supposed to have a hyphen. (No, "hyphen" has nothing to
do with virginity, Pussy. Look it up, ignoramus.)

Second, what Pussy wrote is fallacious because food processors are used for
MUCH more than cutting up vegetables. (No, "fallacious" has nothing to do
with cocksucking, Pussy. Look it up, ignoramus.) I used my food processor
recently making crab bisque; the cleaned and partially cooked crabs are put
into the food processor, shells and all, and processed to make a kind of
"crab sludge" which is then further cooked to extract every bit of flavor
which can be extracted. How long do you think that would take to do by hand?
An hour? Two? And after all that time, at best you'd *equal* the product
which the food processor produced in less than a minute. Food processors can
make mayonnaise in seconds -- not that Pussy has ever made mayo anyway; he
prefers "Creamy Cub Scout" dressing on his salads, but the point stands
regardless. Food processors can make pasta dough in mere moments as well,
and the quality of the dough is better than anything Pussy could make with
his smegma-crusted hands.

So food processors are definitely worthwhile to people who COOK. If you
subsist on SPAM like Pussy does, then maybe it's too advanced for you, and
you should stick with the "beginner" cooking set.

Bob

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> > What do you have against the glass lids? Just curious.
>
>> I don't wanna baby it against breakage. Do they go into a super hot oven
>> okay?
>
> No idea. I don't use the dutch oven or the skillet in the oven. :-\
>
I have my old workhorse pots and pans. Sometimes it is okay to have beauty
for beauty's sake, I have decided. And if I think it is beautiful, it is
beautiful. That's the really cool thing. This actually applied to everybody.

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:02:10 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >, "Jean B." >
>wrote:
>
>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > I see no point to a food processor... for veggies it can't do anything
>> > quicker AND better than I can with a knife.... I've yet to see a food
>> > processor that can cut veggies to my satisfation... I once had a top
>> > of the line 11 quart cuisinart that after trying it a few times never
>> > used it again... years later I tried to give it away but no one wanted
>> > it so I tossed it in the trash. All a food processor can do is
>> > *masticate* (or is that masturcate) veggies and I can actually chew
>> > veggies neater with my teeth. I gotta peel and prep anyway, may as
>> > well finish the job with the same knife in hand... if I'm gonna pay
>> > good money for nice veggies I don't want them all mangled into
>> > non-descript bits n' pieces.
>>
>> Yes, that's part of the problem: the results are so uneven. I
>> like chopping, mincing, etc. by hand and find the results to be
>> much more appealing.
>
>Pretty much the same here, but still find the box grater useful for some
>stuff.

A grater is not really comparable to a knife... but I've found the box
grater (and other style graters) far more utile than a food processor.

The factory type food processing equipment used say at a cannery work
well but the type found in home kitchens are just toys r us gizmos for
the folks who can't wield a knife and/or don't care what kind of slop
they prepare. The food processor is in exactly the same catagory as
the electric knife.

When I tried to slice cucumbers with a food prosessor for cuke salad I
ended up with all sorts of twisted shapes and hardly any neat
slices... most of the cuke was wasted... I can slice cukes by the
dozen perfectly with my box grater with little effort and in less than
30 seconds a cuke... same with any sliced veggie, carrots, celery,
onions, any. And for stir fry especially I want neat uniform and
*cleanly cut* veggies... food processor blades can't slice cleanly,
they all tear, that's why they do okay for *over* processing foods,
like turning meat into mousse. A food processor is just a differently
configured blender... a food processsor does lots of chores but does
nothing well.

brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:02:10 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>> In article >, "Jean B." >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> I see no point to a food processor... for veggies it can't do anything
>>>> quicker AND better than I can with a knife.... I've yet to see a food
>>>> processor that can cut veggies to my satisfation... I once had a top
>>>> of the line 11 quart cuisinart that after trying it a few times never
>>>> used it again... years later I tried to give it away but no one wanted
>>>> it so I tossed it in the trash. All a food processor can do is
>>>> *masticate* (or is that masturcate) veggies and I can actually chew
>>>> veggies neater with my teeth. I gotta peel and prep anyway, may as
>>>> well finish the job with the same knife in hand... if I'm gonna pay
>>>> good money for nice veggies I don't want them all mangled into
>>>> non-descript bits n' pieces.
>>> Yes, that's part of the problem: the results are so uneven. I
>>> like chopping, mincing, etc. by hand and find the results to be
>>> much more appealing.
>> Pretty much the same here, but still find the box grater useful for some
>> stuff.
>
> A grater is not really comparable to a knife... but I've found the box
> grater (and other style graters) far more utile than a food processor.
>
> The factory type food processing equipment used say at a cannery work
> well but the type found in home kitchens are just toys r us gizmos for
> the folks who can't wield a knife and/or don't care what kind of slop
> they prepare. The food processor is in exactly the same catagory as
> the electric knife.
>
> When I tried to slice cucumbers with a food prosessor for cuke salad I
> ended up with all sorts of twisted shapes and hardly any neat
> slices...

Blades aren't sharp enough.

>most of the cuke was wasted... I can slice cukes by the
> dozen perfectly with my box grater with little effort and in less than
> 30 seconds a cuke...


That is the problem with food processors... they are too much of a PITA
to clean if you use them for small jobs. It is easier to slice/dice by
hand in smaller quantities.

We have a mini food processor that comes in handy fairly often for
dicing onions, green peppers etc... and it is great to mince a lot of
garlic.

George L

On Feb 27, 2:42*am, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz wrote:
>
> > I see no point to a food processor... for veggies it can't do anything
> > quicker AND better than I can with a knife.... I've yet to see a food
> > processor that can cut veggies to my satisfation... I once *had a top
> > of the line 11 quart cuisinart that after trying it a few times never
> > used it again... years later I tried to give it away but no one wanted
> > it so I tossed it in the trash. *
>
> Second, what Pussy wrote is fallacious because food processors are used for
> MUCH more than cutting up vegetables.

He is obviously lying. There is zero chance that anyone would be
unsuccessful at trying to give away an 11 cup Cuisinart.

>
> Bob

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