On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:08:52 -0500, "cybercat" >
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> "sf" > wrote in message
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> > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:19:03 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> >> Gritty? Huh. Granite and gritty belong together in the same
> >> sentence, AFAIC.
> >
> > What happened to "do not"?... "do not belong together". :/ Sorry.
> >
>
> WTF is AFAIC? As far as I ... ?
>
As Far As I'm Concerned... that's what happens when acronym's are
used.

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> You'll be glad you upgraded your appliances. Personally, I don't last
> a week without a dishwasher. I start breaking things when I have to
> wash by hand.

I was in the kitchen equipment shop (all hail) last week. I could smell
cooking, and there on the counter was a blender which also cooked the soup!
Not for me, but I wonder what else they will bring out to seduce the cook


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"cybercat" > wrote in message
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> Cool site. However ... I am not particularly fond of granit. It seems ...
> gritty looking to me. I imagine waterford shattering on it. I don't know
> what I would want on the counters. Anyway, no remodel is planned, just
> yearned for. I want to take down a couple of walls and completely
> reconfigure. Since I can't do that now (gotta buy a car and want a better
> one than I should) I might just refloor, refinish the cabinets (which are
> real wood and beautiful, just the finish is worn) and get new appliances
> aka new wall oven (present one is also coppertone!) and dishwasher. My
> fridge is new, at least.

Marble?

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Ophelia wrote:

> I was in the kitchen equipment shop (all hail) last week. I could smell
> cooking, and there on the counter was a blender which also cooked the
> soup! Not for me, but I wonder what else they will bring out to seduce the
> cook

Peter wrote about it here some months ago:

<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/browse_frm/thread/c1e1ced9d00dfff0/61ff8c81d55676c>

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
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> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> I was in the kitchen equipment shop (all hail) last week. I could smell
>> cooking, and there on the counter was a blender which also cooked the
>> soup! Not for me, but I wonder what else they will bring out to seduce
>> the cook
>
> Peter wrote about it here some months ago:
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/browse_frm/thread/c1e1ced9d00dfff0/61ff8c81d55676c>

Thanks I don't always read all posts.
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"Ophelia" > wrote
> Marble?
>

You know me so well. Maybe that deep green Italian marble with tanish bits
in it.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
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>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> I was in the kitchen equipment shop (all hail) last week. I could smell
>>> cooking, and there on the counter was a blender which also cooked the
>>> soup! Not for me, but I wonder what else they will bring out to seduce
>>> the cook
>>
>> Peter wrote about it here some months ago:
>>
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/browse_frm/thread/c1e1ced9d00dfff0/61ff8c81d55676c>
>
> Thanks I don't always read all posts.
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WHAT? Well why the HELL not?

"Ophelia" > wrote> I was in the kitchen equipment
shop (all hail) last week. I could smell
> cooking, and there on the counter was a blender which also cooked the
> soup!

WOW!

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:08:52 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:19:03 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Gritty? Huh. Granite and gritty belong together in the same
>> >> sentence, AFAIC.
>> >
>> > What happened to "do not"?... "do not belong together". :/ Sorry.
>> >
>>
>> WTF is AFAIC? As far as I ... ?
>>
> As Far As I'm Concerned... that's what happens when acronym's are
> used.
>
OK. It just looks .... gritty to me. Not feels. I know it's odd. Miss O has
the right idea, I would like marble better. But still, the brittleness
bothers me. It's just new.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote
>> Marble?
>>
>
> You know me so well. Maybe that deep green Italian marble with tanish bits
> in it.

I shall expect photos


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"cybercat" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was in the kitchen equipment shop (all hail) last week. I could
>>>> smell cooking, and there on the counter was a blender which also cooked
>>>> the soup! Not for me, but I wonder what else they will bring out to
>>>> seduce the cook
>>>
>>> Peter wrote about it here some months ago:
>>>
>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/browse_frm/thread/c1e1ced9d00dfff0/61ff8c81d55676c>
>>
>> Thanks I don't always read all posts.
>
> WHAT? Well why the HELL not?

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"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote> I was in the kitchen equipment
> shop (all hail) last week. I could smell
>> cooking, and there on the counter was a blender which also cooked the
>> soup!
>
> WOW!

Well it seems it was known about here already


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On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:41:38 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> OK. It just looks .... gritty to me. Not feels. I know it's odd. Miss O has
> the right idea, I would like marble better. But still, the brittleness
> bothers me. It's just new.

Personally, I think you should go in the other direction and look at
quartz if you don't like granite. Marble is not a stone you'd want
for the kitchen. It stains too easily. One of my ex-neighbors had
marble counters and they ruined the finish just by using glass cleaner
on it. NONONONONO, marble isn't for kitchens.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:41:38 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>> OK. It just looks .... gritty to me. Not feels. I know it's odd. Miss O
>> has
>> the right idea, I would like marble better. But still, the brittleness
>> bothers me. It's just new.
>
> Personally, I think you should go in the other direction and look at
> quartz if you don't like granite. Marble is not a stone you'd want
> for the kitchen. It stains too easily. One of my ex-neighbors had
> marble counters and they ruined the finish just by using glass cleaner
> on it. NONONONONO, marble isn't for kitchens.
>
> --
>Isn't there a product now that is made of recycled glass, comes in many
>color tones and looks similar to granite?
Janet

I am Tosk wrote:
> says...
>
>> If I used mine like they use them on TV I would need a row of ten of
>> them in the kitchen and a much larger dishwasher. It's one of the
>> items that seems to stay on the counter and get used enough to stay
>> there but it isn't used anything like as often as I seen them used on
>> TV.
>
>> No way it can be cleaned in time to use it for a second use. Take it
>> apart and put the parts in the dishwasher. It's ready to go the next
>> day for the next use.
>
> Are you kidding me?

No. If I wanted to spend my entire cooking time as a dish washer then I
would not cook. I have no problem cleaning up after the meal, but if I
wanted to clean endlessly instead of cooking I'd go take a paid job
doing that.

> If you need to clean it while cooking, a bit of hot water
> and a soapy rag does wonders. Chop the carrots, dump them in a bowl, flip off
> the top, base, and blade and rinse with hot water, if necessary a soapy rag and
> dry. Now you are ready to chop your carrots in what, maybe 34 seconds tops, if
> you take your time? Just don't let the thing sit dirty over night first.

Sitting for even an hour isn't the point. Fussing with a bunch of
moving parts that each fit together in some obscure way it the point. I
get that if I used the same food processor 2+ hours per day I would be
able field strip and clean it like a soldier in a trench can maintain
his rifle. But I'm neither a paid cook nor an enlisted solider.
Seventeen custom motions per moving part doesn't endear me to a complex
machine in the middle of cooking. I want to cook, eat and clean not get
frustrated at a highly coriographed dance to get the damn thing apart to
be able to rinse it out for the next ingredient.

Next you're going to tell me you run the cold and hot waters constantly
while cooking so you can use them without pausing your cooking.
Restaurants do that, too. Not in my kitchen though.

I'm a gadget freak. I love playing with complex toys. I know better
than to put a complex toy in the critical path for getting to a meal.
Great way to end up with burnt mush instead of a delicious meal.

Yeah, I know. James Beard loved electric ranges too. Any professional
chef who is not organized enough to know when to adjust the controls in
advanced isn't good enough to work in his kitchen. Same viewpoint and
yet how many chefs prefer gas because it's easy to control. Hard to
control, complex to clean in the middle of a recipe.

sf wrote:
>
> I don't like box graters because they are so bulky. I have a grater
> that is basically one of the box grater's sides, flat and has the same
> holes all over. If I wanted different sized holes, I'd have more of
> them, but not a box grater.

We've got a rotary grater with several inserts with different grating
options. It slices it dices yada yada yada. The keys for me is I don't
scrape my knuckles when using it and the inserts come on and off with a
flip of the rotating handle. Very simple to deal with while doing prep.

On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:35:43 -0700, "Janet Bostwick" > wrote:

>>Isn't there a product now that is made of recycled glass, comes in many
>>color tones and looks similar to granite?

I think you mean Silestone. But it doesn't look anything like real granite.

Here's a shot of our re-done kitchen with real granite countertops, which were
cheaper than Silestone, Corian, or anything else of quality the big boxes
carried. We're very pleased with the granite. Twice a year treatment, each of
which takes about fifteen minutes.

www.xhost.org/images/kitchen.jpg

-- Larry

On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:35:43 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:41:38 -0500, "cybercat" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> OK. It just looks .... gritty to me. Not feels. I know it's odd. Miss O
> >> has
> >> the right idea, I would like marble better. But still, the brittleness
> >> bothers me. It's just new.
> >
> > Personally, I think you should go in the other direction and look at
> > quartz if you don't like granite. Marble is not a stone you'd want
> > for the kitchen. It stains too easily. One of my ex-neighbors had
> > marble counters and they ruined the finish just by using glass cleaner
> > on it. NONONONONO, marble isn't for kitchens.
> >
> > --
> >Isn't there a product now that is made of recycled glass, comes in many
> >color tones and looks similar to granite?
> Janet
>
I posted a link up-thread to a recycled surface where glass is one
component, but she didn't appear to be interested. You can lead a
horse to water...

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On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:55:21 -0500, pltrgyst >
wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:35:43 -0700, "Janet Bostwick" > wrote:
>
> >>Isn't there a product now that is made of recycled glass, comes in many
> >>color tones and looks similar to granite?
>
> I think you mean Silestone. But it doesn't look anything like real granite.
>
> Here's a shot of our re-done kitchen with real granite countertops, which were
> cheaper than Silestone, Corian, or anything else of quality the big boxes
> carried. We're very pleased with the granite. Twice a year treatment, each of
> which takes about fifteen minutes.
>
> www.xhost.org/images/kitchen.jpg
>

Nice kitchen, Larry! You must love having people over.



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On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:53:50 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > I don't like box graters because they are so bulky. I have a grater
> > that is basically one of the box grater's sides, flat and has the same
> > holes all over. If I wanted different sized holes, I'd have more of
> > them, but not a box grater.
>
> We've got a rotary grater with several inserts with different grating
> options. It slices it dices yada yada yada. The keys for me is I don't
> scrape my knuckles when using it and the inserts come on and off with a
> flip of the rotating handle. Very simple to deal with while doing prep.

I just bought a small rotary grater for cheese... it's still too big
for me to hold comfortably. I don't know how waiters do it.

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sf wrote:
> Doug Freyburger > wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>
>> > I don't like box graters because they are so bulky. I have a grater
>> > that is basically one of the box grater's sides, flat and has the same
>> > holes all over. If I wanted different sized holes, I'd have more of
>> > them, but not a box grater.
>
>> We've got a rotary grater with several inserts with different grating
>> options. It slices it dices yada yada yada. The keys for me is I don't
>> scrape my knuckles when using it and the inserts come on and off with a
>> flip of the rotating handle. Very simple to deal with while doing prep.
>
> I just bought a small rotary grater for cheese... it's still too big
> for me to hold comfortably. I don't know how waiters do it.

Ours is a big one that does a suction connection to the counter. It is
big enough to replace the small rotary grater and the mandoline. It
does some of the food processor functions but is trivial to take apart
so it doesn't require a complex dance to swap in the next part.

In article >,
Doug Freyburger > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > I don't like box graters because they are so bulky. I have a grater
> > that is basically one of the box grater's sides, flat and has the same
> > holes all over. If I wanted different sized holes, I'd have more of
> > them, but not a box grater.
>
> We've got a rotary grater with several inserts with different grating
> options. It slices it dices yada yada yada. The keys for me is I don't
> scrape my knuckles when using it and the inserts come on and off with a
> flip of the rotating handle. Very simple to deal with while doing prep.

A good selling point. ;-)
I also have a rotary grater mounted on the counter and probably do not
use it as often as I should:

http://i48.tinypic.com/ank2fn.jpg
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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> I just bought a small rotary grater for cheese... it's still too big
> for me to hold comfortably. I don't know how waiters do it.

Do you have arthritis? :-(
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:38:02 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:02:25 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:
>
>> The only thing that surprised me was that he actually tried to cook.
>
>You have to give him credit for "something"... three times at the very
>least.

Yeah, well he thought the dishwasher was the washing machine until we
moved and it didn't :-^)

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

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On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:02:04 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > I just bought a small rotary grater for cheese... it's still too big
> > for me to hold comfortably. I don't know how waiters do it.
>
> Do you have arthritis? :-(

No, my hands are not big enough to span the two handles and apply the
required pressure easily. I had to put a *really* small chunk of
cheese in it to get the job done.

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On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:00:52 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

> In article >,
> Doug Freyburger > wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't like box graters because they are so bulky. I have a grater
> > > that is basically one of the box grater's sides, flat and has the same
> > > holes all over. If I wanted different sized holes, I'd have more of
> > > them, but not a box grater.
> >
> > We've got a rotary grater with several inserts with different grating
> > options. It slices it dices yada yada yada. The keys for me is I don't
> > scrape my knuckles when using it and the inserts come on and off with a
> > flip of the rotating handle. Very simple to deal with while doing prep.
>
> A good selling point. ;-)
> I also have a rotary grater mounted on the counter and probably do not
> use it as often as I should:
>
> http://i48.tinypic.com/ank2fn.jpg

My rotary grater isn't like your rotary grater. It looks like this
http://pedestriansaga.com/wp-content...e%20grater.jpg
I don't know if the "insert" on mine comes out or not. It's a Zyliss,
but I haven't had an indication that it would - it wasn't indicated on
the box. If it does, I haven't seen other sized inserts to put in it.

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On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:27:46 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:38:02 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:02:25 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> > wrote:
> >
> >> The only thing that surprised me was that he actually tried to cook.
> >
> >You have to give him credit for "something"... three times at the very
> >least.
>
> Yeah, well he thought the dishwasher was the washing machine until we
> moved and it didn't :-^)
>
Awww, that's cute! It's wonderful to live in a fantasy world. How
did you break it to him what Real Life was all about?

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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> Doug Freyburger > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't like box graters because they are so bulky. I have a grater
>> > that is basically one of the box grater's sides, flat and has the same
>> > holes all over. If I wanted different sized holes, I'd have more of
>> > them, but not a box grater.
>>
>> We've got a rotary grater with several inserts with different grating
>> options. It slices it dices yada yada yada. The keys for me is I don't
>> scrape my knuckles when using it and the inserts come on and off with a
>> flip of the rotating handle. Very simple to deal with while doing prep.
>
> A good selling point. ;-)
> I also have a rotary grater mounted on the counter and probably do not
> use it as often as I should:
>
> http://i48.tinypic.com/ank2fn.jpg

Whoaa!! THAT is a grater)

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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:02:04 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > sf > wrote:
> >
> > > I just bought a small rotary grater for cheese... it's still too big
> > > for me to hold comfortably. I don't know how waiters do it.
> >
> > Do you have arthritis? :-(
>
> No, my hands are not big enough to span the two handles and apply the
> required pressure easily. I had to put a *really* small chunk of
> cheese in it to get the job done.

Ok, what rotary grater did you get? I rarely use mine (I most often
purchase many cheeses pre-grated as they are the same price so there is
no reason not to) but the little one I bought is easy to use. Are your
hands that petit? Not trying to be mean, just curious... Maybe I have
something locally that would help you. :-)
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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> > > We've got a rotary grater with several inserts with different grating
> > > options. It slices it dices yada yada yada. The keys for me is I don't
> > > scrape my knuckles when using it and the inserts come on and off with a
> > > flip of the rotating handle. Very simple to deal with while doing prep.
> >
> > A good selling point. ;-)
> > I also have a rotary grater mounted on the counter and probably do not
> > use it as often as I should:
> >
> > http://i48.tinypic.com/ank2fn.jpg
>
> My rotary grater isn't like your rotary grater. It looks like this
> http://pedestriansaga.com/wp-content...e%20grater.jpg
> I don't know if the "insert" on mine comes out or not. It's a Zyliss,
> but I haven't had an indication that it would - it wasn't indicated on
> the box. If it does, I haven't seen other sized inserts to put in it.
>
> --
> I love cooking with wine.
> Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Hm. I have one of those too, but have rarely used it. It came with three
different grater inserts. I like my box grater for most jobs. More
versatile and easier to clean. :-)
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In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > Doug Freyburger > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I don't like box graters because they are so bulky. I have a grater
> >> > that is basically one of the box grater's sides, flat and has the same
> >> > holes all over. If I wanted different sized holes, I'd have more of
> >> > them, but not a box grater.
> >>
> >> We've got a rotary grater with several inserts with different grating
> >> options. It slices it dices yada yada yada. The keys for me is I don't
> >> scrape my knuckles when using it and the inserts come on and off with a
> >> flip of the rotating handle. Very simple to deal with while doing prep.
> >
> > A good selling point. ;-)
> > I also have a rotary grater mounted on the counter and probably do not
> > use it as often as I should:
> >
> > http://i48.tinypic.com/ank2fn.jpg
>
> Whoaa!! THAT is a grater)
>

<lol> Thanks. It's very versatile and works as a slicer too.
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On 2010-03-02, Omelet > wrote:
>
> Ok, what rotary grater did you get?

Don't have one, yet, but I'm looking for one of these:

<http://www.jensco.com/thekitchendrawer/kitchen_tools/slicers_mandolins/slicermx1447.html>

We had one when I was a kid and it was very easy to use, even when I
was still quite young. I could grate a pound of brick chedder for mac
n' cheese in a couple mins. Strangely, they have all but disappeared,
apparently replaced by the drum style hand grater. I had a helluva
time locating this one. A little more hassle to clean up than a flat
grater, but quicker than a food processor. Since I don't currently
have an FP, I'll probably get one of these.

nb

On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:11:16 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote:

>> I also have a rotary grater mounted on the counter and probably do not
>> use it as often as I should:
>>
>> http://i48.tinypic.com/ank2fn.jpg
>
>Whoaa!! THAT is a grater)

The drums look just likethe KitchenAid slicer/shredder/grater attachment.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:35:43 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:41:38 -0500, "cybercat" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> OK. It just looks .... gritty to me. Not feels. I know it's odd. Miss
>> >> O
>> >> has
>> >> the right idea, I would like marble better. But still, the brittleness
>> >> bothers me. It's just new.
>> >
>> > Personally, I think you should go in the other direction and look at
>> > quartz if you don't like granite. Marble is not a stone you'd want
>> > for the kitchen. It stains too easily. One of my ex-neighbors had
>> > marble counters and they ruined the finish just by using glass cleaner
>> > on it. NONONONONO, marble isn't for kitchens.
>> >
>> > --
>> >Isn't there a product now that is made of recycled glass, comes in many
>> >color tones and looks similar to granite?
>> Janet
>>
> I posted a link up-thread to a recycled surface where glass is one
> component, but she didn't appear to be interested. You can lead a
> horse to water...
>
It's just me, but I can't feature using a natural product for my kitchen
that is used to build national monuments, libraries and the like. I'm not
that important. And then have some bozo come by in a couple of years when
trying to sell the place and have them shriek, 'the kitchen is awful and
will have to be totally redone. rip out the granite!'
Janet

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> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:35:43 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:41:38 -0500, "cybercat" >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> OK. It just looks .... gritty to me. Not feels. I know it's odd. Miss
>>> >> O
>>> >> has
>>> >> the right idea, I would like marble better. But still, the
>>> >> brittleness
>>> >> bothers me. It's just new.
>>> >
>>> > Personally, I think you should go in the other direction and look at
>>> > quartz if you don't like granite. Marble is not a stone you'd want
>>> > for the kitchen. It stains too easily. One of my ex-neighbors had
>>> > marble counters and they ruined the finish just by using glass cleaner
>>> > on it. NONONONONO, marble isn't for kitchens.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >Isn't there a product now that is made of recycled glass, comes in many
>>> >color tones and looks similar to granite?
>>> Janet
>>>
>> I posted a link up-thread to a recycled surface where glass is one
>> component, but she didn't appear to be interested. You can lead a
>> horse to water...
>>
> It's just me, but I can't feature using a natural product for my kitchen
> that is used to build national monuments, libraries and the like. I'm not
> that important. And then have some bozo come by in a couple of years when
> trying to sell the place and have them shriek, 'the kitchen is awful and
> will have to be totally redone. rip out the granite!'

A woman near me was selling her house and decided to fit a new kitchen. The
buyer came in and said.. oh we'll need to get a new kitchen, and proceded to
do just that.
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Ophelia > wrote:

> A woman near me was selling her house and decided to fit a
> new kitchen. The buyer came in and said.. oh we'll need to
> get a new kitchen, and proceded to do just that.

Yes, kitchens have the lowest recovery value of nearly
any home remodeling.

Steve

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:35:43 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:41:38 -0500, "cybercat" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK. It just looks .... gritty to me. Not feels. I know it's odd. Miss
>>>>> O
>>>>> has
>>>>> the right idea, I would like marble better. But still, the brittleness
>>>>> bothers me. It's just new.
>>>> Personally, I think you should go in the other direction and look at
>>>> quartz if you don't like granite. Marble is not a stone you'd want
>>>> for the kitchen. It stains too easily. One of my ex-neighbors had
>>>> marble counters and they ruined the finish just by using glass cleaner
>>>> on it. NONONONONO, marble isn't for kitchens.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Isn't there a product now that is made of recycled glass, comes in many
>>>> color tones and looks similar to granite?
>>> Janet
>>>
>> I posted a link up-thread to a recycled surface where glass is one
>> component, but she didn't appear to be interested. You can lead a
>> horse to water...
>>
> It's just me, but I can't feature using a natural product for my kitchen
> that is used to build national monuments, libraries and the like. I'm not
> that important. And then have some bozo come by in a couple of years when
> trying to sell the place and have them shriek, 'the kitchen is awful and
> will have to be totally redone. rip out the granite!'
> Janet
>
>

Here in the western 'burbs of Boston, I perused the real estate
ads, and looked at the listings, for perhaps 3 years. It was
obvious that many people had upgraded their kitchens to include
granite countertops, and that many of those people had done it
with selling in mind. There almost seems to be an expectation
that a nice, up-to-date kitchen will have them. I am getting such
countertops, both because I find them very sensuous (esp. in the
antiqued finish I have ordered) and with a thought to eventual resale.

--
Jean B.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Steve Pope wrote:
> Ophelia > wrote:
>
>> A woman near me was selling her house and decided to fit a
>> new kitchen. The buyer came in and said.. oh we'll need to
>> get a new kitchen, and proceded to do just that.
>
> Yes, kitchens have the lowest recovery value of nearly
> any home remodeling.
>
> Steve

Interesting. My current kitchen is the original one from the 60s,
except for nonworking appliance replacements. It didn't bother me
at all, but I bet a buyer will rip it out. The kitchen in the
house I purchased in November has problems. Not enough cabinets
and counter space, wasted space, and a major hunk of cabinet space
"orphaned" and inaccessible. That is what is prompting me to get
a new kitchen. It's a pity that I want the sink under the window
and don't want to make a new window, because that does dictate a
few things.

--
Jean B.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:00:48 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
Pope) wrote:

> Ophelia > wrote:
>
> > A woman near me was selling her house and decided to fit a
> > new kitchen. The buyer came in and said.. oh we'll need to
> > get a new kitchen, and proceded to do just that.
>
> Yes, kitchens have the lowest recovery value of nearly
> any home remodeling.
>
That's not true. Kitchens and baths sell houses.


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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:00:48 +0000 (UTC), (Steve

>> Ophelia > wrote:

>> > A woman near me was selling her house and decided to fit a
>> > new kitchen. The buyer came in and said.. oh we'll need to
>> > get a new kitchen, and proceded to do just that.

>> Yes, kitchens have the lowest recovery value of nearly
>> any home remodeling.

>That's not true. Kitchens and baths sell houses.

I think both your statement and my statement can be simultaneously
true.

A tasteful, broadly acceptable kitchen remodel can sell a house.
But many, perhaps most kitchen remodels are sufficiently
idiosyncratic that they don't add much value despite being
often hugely expensive.

Steve