We are getting ready to remodel.

I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane. I want
one with a wok ring, and the knobs alienated so I can look at them and know
which one without referring to the diagrams that drive me crazy as to which
knob operates which burner. Other than that, I want one that I can put more
than one big pot or skillet on, and have room for the others without danger
of them falling off or being crowded.

I have looked around, and seen some I like in the $1200 to $1500 range. May
go to $2k, but then getting into Wolf, Viking, and Dacor stuff. Still,
those can be had reasonably used or on sale.

Class?

Class?

Steve

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:27:33 -0800, "Steve B"
> wrote:

> We are getting ready to remodel.
>
> I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane. I want
> one with a wok ring, and the knobs alienated so I can look at them and know
> which one without referring to the diagrams that drive me crazy as to which
> knob operates which burner. Other than that, I want one that I can put more
> than one big pot or skillet on, and have room for the others without danger
> of them falling off or being crowded.
>
> I have looked around, and seen some I like in the $1200 to $1500 range. May
> go to $2k, but then getting into Wolf, Viking, and Dacor stuff. Still,
> those can be had reasonably used or on sale.
>
> Class?
>
> Class?
>
I was ready to tell you about mine, but it's not propane. Good luck
with that.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:27:33 -0800, "Steve B"
> > wrote:
>
> > We are getting ready to remodel.
> >
> > I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane. I want
> > one with a wok ring, and the knobs alienated so I can look at them and know
> > which one without referring to the diagrams that drive me crazy as to which
> > knob operates which burner. Other than that, I want one that I can put more
> > than one big pot or skillet on, and have room for the others without danger
> > of them falling off or being crowded.
> >
> > I have looked around, and seen some I like in the $1200 to $1500 range. May
> > go to $2k, but then getting into Wolf, Viking, and Dacor stuff. Still,
> > those can be had reasonably used or on sale.
> >
> > Class?
> >
> > Class?
> >
> I was ready to tell you about mine, but it's not propane. Good luck
> with that.

Is it nat. gas? If so, it's applicable since pretty much all gaseous
fueled cooktops can be converted between nat. gas and LP gas. Many come
with the conversion parts as standard equipment in a little envelope
taped inside the unit.

On 2010-03-04, Steve B > wrote:

> I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane.

After using an electric for years, I'm now cooking on a propane range.
Be aware of one thing! Propane burns hotter than natural gas, so make
sure you get a stove that's made for propane specifically. Also, make
sure that stove has fine control of the burner at low settings. My
only regret with gas over electrical is the lack of low temp control.
May be better on costlier stoves, but cheaper stoves are hard to turn
down to a low simmer like electrics.

I don't know the details, but if a burner would shut down to fewer gas
holes burning at lower temps, it would would be easier to control. I
know some burners have inner and outer burner rings. I would think a
good burner would maybe shut down all but the fewer inner ring holes at low
temps for more control. Something to consider. Also, make sure one
or two of the burners have a full diameter heat dissipation plate
built into the pan support or at least offer one as an option.

nb

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:27:33 -0800, "Steve B"
> > wrote:
>
> > We are getting ready to remodel.
> >
> > I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane. I want
> > one with a wok ring, and the knobs alienated so I can look at them and know
> > which one without referring to the diagrams that drive me crazy as to which
> > knob operates which burner. Other than that, I want one that I can put
> > more
> > than one big pot or skillet on, and have room for the others without danger
> > of them falling off or being crowded.
> >
> > I have looked around, and seen some I like in the $1200 to $1500 range.
> > May
> > go to $2k, but then getting into Wolf, Viking, and Dacor stuff. Still,
> > those can be had reasonably used or on sale.

> I was ready to tell you about mine, but it's not propane. Good luck
> with that.

Yours looked pretty darned nice. My experience with natural gas stoves
is that it takes the installer about fifteen minutes to convert them to
propane. Some just need a wrench, some come with some small parts to
install and others you have to order a little kit. If I understand
correctly, there are some places where the gas and air get mixed, and
that's a little different depending whether you have natural gas or
propane.

If I won the lottery, and could have anything I wanted, I suspect I
would get *two* cooktops, perhaps one gas and one electric, although I
do prefer gas.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:26:58 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:

> If I won the lottery, and could have anything I wanted, I suspect I
> would get *two* cooktops, perhaps one gas and one electric, although I
> do prefer gas.

I like electric too. After a lifetime of cooking on electric, it's
hard to make the switch. I'm not scorching my pans as much anymore.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2010-03-04, Steve B > wrote:
>
> > I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane.
>
> After using an electric for years, I'm now cooking on a propane range.
> Be aware of one thing! Propane burns hotter than natural gas, so make
> sure you get a stove that's made for propane specifically. Also, make
> sure that stove has fine control of the burner at low settings. My
> only regret with gas over electrical is the lack of low temp control.
> May be better on costlier stoves, but cheaper stoves are hard to turn
> down to a low simmer like electrics.
>
> I don't know the details, but if a burner would shut down to fewer gas
> holes burning at lower temps, it would would be easier to control. I
> know some burners have inner and outer burner rings. I would think a
> good burner would maybe shut down all but the fewer inner ring holes at low
> temps for more control. Something to consider. Also, make sure one
> or two of the burners have a full diameter heat dissipation plate
> built into the pan support or at least offer one as an option.
>
> nb

Some high end gas stoves / cooktops that I've seen that have simmer
burners do intermittent ignition on those burners at the low settings.
Some other stoves / cooktops just have a smaller burner that is the
designated simmer burner and can be set lower than the regular burners.

Either way, just about any gaseous fueled stove / cooktop available can
be switched between nat. gas and LP gas in short order by changing the
jets and a regulator spring typically. Many come standard with the
conversion parts included.

On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:24:11 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> My
> only regret with gas over electrical is the lack of low temp control.
> May be better on costlier stoves, but cheaper stoves are hard to turn
> down to a low simmer like electrics.

Look for something called a "simmer plate", "heat diffuser" or "flame
tamer"... sometimes it's called a "simmer mat". There are many
choices under $20 and some of those are under $10. I bet you can find
one at your local mom & pop hardware store.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Chemiker wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:27:33 -0800, "Steve B"
> > wrote:
>
> >We are getting ready to remodel.
> >
> >I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane. I want
> >one with a wok ring, and the knobs alienated so I can look at them and know
> >which one without referring to the diagrams that drive me crazy as to which
> >knob operates which burner. Other than that, I want one that I can put more
> >than one big pot or skillet on, and have room for the others without danger
> >of them falling off or being crowded.
> >
> >I have looked around, and seen some I like in the $1200 to $1500 range. May
> >go to $2k, but then getting into Wolf, Viking, and Dacor stuff. Still,
> >those can be had reasonably used or on sale.
>
> Maybe (!) this is worth looking into. We have a cramped kitchen and,
> while remodeling, found that Kenmore Elite has a gas cooktop that uses
> a 30" cutout to support a 36" cooktop. We wanted a larger unit, but
> the cabinetry wouldn't support a larger cooktop. The Kenmore nit
> worked out fine.
>
> BUT: I don't know if it supports Propane. Ours is NG. Been happy with
> it, tho.
>
> HTH
>
> Alex

KE dual fuel range here, 5 gas burners up top happily running on LP,
large electric convection oven and smaller electric side oven. Works
great.

sf wrote:
>
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:26:58 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
> > If I won the lottery, and could have anything I wanted, I suspect I
> > would get *two* cooktops, perhaps one gas and one electric, although I
> > do prefer gas.
>
> I like electric too. After a lifetime of cooking on electric, it's
> hard to make the switch. I'm not scorching my pans as much anymore.

It shouldn't be that difficult to switch. I spent many years cooking on
electric, had no difficulty switching to gas (LP) here.

Along the way have cooked on everything from low end and high end
electric stoves, low end and high end gas stoves, even two burner
Coleman gas camp stoves and real commercial gas stoves, and I've not had
any problem adapting to any of them. They are all heat sources and as
long as you're paying attention they work fine.

sf wrote:

> I like electric too. After a lifetime of cooking on electric, it's
> hard to make the switch. I'm not scorching my pans as much anymore.
>
I have to say... that this was one factor in my not going with
gas in the new main kitchen. Besides, if I have a hankering to
cook with gas, I can go downstairs.

--
Jean B.

"sf" > wrote

> I was ready to tell you about mine, but it's not propane. Good luck
> with that.

No NG here, and electric sucks.

Flame away.

Steve

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:06:08 -0800, "Steve B"
> wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote
>
> > I was ready to tell you about mine, but it's not propane. Good luck
> > with that.
>
> No NG here, and electric sucks.
>
> Flame away.
>
<shrug> You can do your research the same way I did mine and it
wasn't by asking anyone here.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"Steve B" > wrote
> I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane. I want
> one with a wok ring, and the knobs alienated so I can look at them and
> know which one without referring to the diagrams that drive me crazy as to
> which knob operates which burner. Other than that, I want one that I can
> put more than one big pot or skillet on, and have room for the others
> without danger of them falling off or being crowded.

Consider Bertazzoni. We love our range. We use propane also
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/Pro...CatID=MS&ID=29

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:26:58 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
>> If I won the lottery, and could have anything I wanted, I suspect I
>> would get *two* cooktops, perhaps one gas and one electric, although I
>> do prefer gas.
>
> I like electric too. After a lifetime of cooking on electric, it's
> hard to make the switch. I'm not scorching my pans as much anymore.

You can get dual fuel cookers.

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https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:17:58 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:26:58 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
> >
> >> If I won the lottery, and could have anything I wanted, I suspect I
> >> would get *two* cooktops, perhaps one gas and one electric, although I
> >> do prefer gas.
> >
> > I like electric too. After a lifetime of cooking on electric, it's
> > hard to make the switch. I'm not scorching my pans as much anymore.
>
> You can get dual fuel cookers.
>
I thought duel fuel meant gas stovetop and electric oven.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:17:58 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:26:58 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>> >
>> >> If I won the lottery, and could have anything I wanted, I suspect I
>> >> would get *two* cooktops, perhaps one gas and one electric, although I
>> >> do prefer gas.
>> >
>> > I like electric too. After a lifetime of cooking on electric, it's
>> > hard to make the switch. I'm not scorching my pans as much anymore.
>>
>> You can get dual fuel cookers.
>>
> I thought duel fuel meant gas stovetop and electric oven.

Look here but you can search for many more. Search on 'duel fuel hobs'

http://www.cookinstyle.co.uk/default...C17_S267_P3986.
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On 3/4/2010 4:01 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:24:11 GMT, > wrote:
>
>> My
>> only regret with gas over electrical is the lack of low temp control.
>> May be better on costlier stoves, but cheaper stoves are hard to turn
>> down to a low simmer like electrics.
>
> Look for something called a "simmer plate", "heat diffuser" or "flame
> tamer"... sometimes it's called a "simmer mat". There are many
> choices under $20 and some of those are under $10. I bet you can find
> one at your local mom& pop hardware store.
>
Set smaller pot inside large cast iron skillet.

--
regards, mike
piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r
http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/
(mawil55)

peedmont wrote:

>On 3/4/2010 4:01 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:24:11 GMT, > wrote:
>>
>>> My
>>> only regret with gas over electrical is the lack of low temp control.
>>> May be better on costlier stoves, but cheaper stoves are hard to turn
>>> down to a low simmer like electrics.
>>
>> Look for something called a "simmer plate", "heat diffuser" or "flame
>> tamer"... sometimes it's called a "simmer mat". There are many
>> choices under $20 and some of those are under $10. I bet you can find
>> one at your local mom& pop hardware store.
>>
>Set smaller pot inside large cast iron skillet.

Damn but you're dumb.

F-in retarded little peedmont... how many times ya need to be told to
put your socks on before your shoes... gas flame is easily
adjustable... pull the knob... adjustment screw is inside the valve
stem. duhhhhhh

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:27:33 -0800, "Steve B"
> wrote:

>We are getting ready to remodel.
>
>I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane. I want
>one with a wok ring, and the knobs alienated so I can look at them and know
>which one without referring to the diagrams that drive me crazy as to which
>knob operates which burner. Other than that, I want one that I can put more
>than one big pot or skillet on, and have room for the others without danger
>of them falling off or being crowded.
>
>I have looked around, and seen some I like in the $1200 to $1500 range. May
>go to $2k, but then getting into Wolf, Viking, and Dacor stuff. Still,
>those can be had reasonably used or on sale.

Maybe (!) this is worth looking into. We have a cramped kitchen and,
while remodeling, found that Kenmore Elite has a gas cooktop that uses
a 30" cutout to support a 36" cooktop. We wanted a larger unit, but
the cabinetry wouldn't support a larger cooktop. The Kenmore nit
worked out fine.

BUT: I don't know if it supports Propane. Ours is NG. Been happy with
it, tho.

HTH

Alex

In article >, says...
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:27:33 -0800, "Steve B"
> > wrote:
>
> > We are getting ready to remodel.
> >
> > I want the largest gas cooktop I can get. Will be using propane. I want
> > one with a wok ring, and the knobs alienated so I can look at them and know
> > which one without referring to the diagrams that drive me crazy as to which
> > knob operates which burner. Other than that, I want one that I can put more
> > than one big pot or skillet on, and have room for the others without danger
> > of them falling off or being crowded.
> >
> > I have looked around, and seen some I like in the $1200 to $1500 range. May
> > go to $2k, but then getting into Wolf, Viking, and Dacor stuff. Still,
> > those can be had reasonably used or on sale.
> >
> > Class?
> >
> > Class?
> >
> I was ready to tell you about mine, but it's not propane. Good luck
> with that.

We have a big sears kenmore that will run both types of gas, the gas company
should be able to hook it up if I am thinking of the right stuff. I like ours
because of the burner grates integrating level across the whole surface, even
between the burners. You can slide pans from one burner to another easily. It
has one really big burner, two regular size burners and one smallish one for
simmer and low heat. We love it. It was in the $1200 range, it's at the other
house so I can't tell you the model.

Scotty

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing, no crybabies!

In article .com>, aux3.DOH.4
@snet.net says...
>
> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:26:58 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
> >
> > > If I won the lottery, and could have anything I wanted, I suspect I
> > > would get *two* cooktops, perhaps one gas and one electric, although I
> > > do prefer gas.
> >
> > I like electric too. After a lifetime of cooking on electric, it's
> > hard to make the switch. I'm not scorching my pans as much anymore.
>
> It shouldn't be that difficult to switch. I spent many years cooking on
> electric, had no difficulty switching to gas (LP) here.
>
> Along the way have cooked on everything from low end and high end
> electric stoves, low end and high end gas stoves, even two burner
> Coleman gas camp stoves and real commercial gas stoves, and I've not had
> any problem adapting to any of them. They are all heat sources and as
> long as you're paying attention they work fine.

With all due respect, my $1200 Kenmore Gas stove with the small simmer burner
is still too hot sometimes, and I have had problems with Coleman stoves that
are not hot enough so I do view your assertion with skepticism. I also have an
upright camping stove that has the same problem sometimes. I do a lot of
camping, almost every weekend in the summer during the race season.

Scotty

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing, no crybabies!