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>,
Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > That's what vitamin supplements are for. If you try to get all of your
> > vitamins from food, the majority of people will consume too many
> > calories... unless you eat a lot of high fiber veggies such as leafy
> > greens.
>
> The problem with that is that multivitamins, or singular vitamins
> aren't absorbed as well as vitamins found in food.

That is very true actually. My anemia issues I was having due to low
cal' dieting did not resolve until I deliberately added heart, liver and
other organ meats back to my routine diet. Heart is not that high in
fat if you trim it and neither is sweetbread.

> There is also the
> problem of how vitamins and minerals work together, which nobody knows
> completely about, and how to get those combinations to work properly in
> a pill. It's better to get vitamins and minerals from food.

I agree up to a point (as per my previous post). Vitamin supplements
should always be taken with a meal! That really does make a difference.

I see you've done your homework. <g>

>
> Regards,
> Ranee
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In article >, Becca >
wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > People in America have an unrealistic idea of proportions and the
> > amounts of food they eat. That is why there is an epidemic of obesity...
> >
>
> Americans do have a problem with obesity. Also, Stu's body requires
> more calories than ours. A man can eat 2200 calories per day while we
> may eat 1600. Your nephews, within a two year time period, will double
> their caloric intake. In a few years, they will eat your refrigerator
> bare, so be prepared. :-P When my oldest son turned 12, we were
> having lunch, he ate his tuna salad sandwich then he asked if I was
> going to eat the other half of mine. That is when I knew he had reached
> puberty.
>
>
> Becca

<laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side. It's
so unfair!
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In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:25:55 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>
> > People in America have an unrealistic idea of proportions and the
> > amounts of food they eat. That is why there is an epidemic of obesity...
>
> If they'd stop making it taste so good, then we wouldn't eat so
> much.
>
> If we were eating 1750's food, I would probably just be eating for
> sustenance.
>
> No, maybe not. They had BBQ back then. And moldy rye, too! I
> would a BBQ trippin' fiend.
>
> -sw

Watch out for that moldy rye. You may end up trying to fly... ;-)
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In article >, "Jean B." >
wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:25:55 -0600, Omelet wrote:
> >
> >> People in America have an unrealistic idea of proportions and the
> >> amounts of food they eat. That is why there is an epidemic of obesity...
> >
> > If they'd stop making it taste so good, then we wouldn't eat so
> > much.
> >
> > If we were eating 1750's food, I would probably just be eating for
> > sustenance.
> >
> > No, maybe not. They had BBQ back then. And moldy rye, too! I
> > would a BBQ trippin' fiend.
> >
> > -sw
>
> The easy access to good-tasting and/or high-calorie and/or
> addictive food is a big factor, I think. If we all had to cook
> our treats (and for that matter, put as much effort into that as
> one had to in days of yore), we would be in better shape.

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, Becca >
> wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> People in America have an unrealistic idea of proportions and the
>>> amounts of food they eat. That is why there is an epidemic of obesity...
>>>
>> Americans do have a problem with obesity. Also, Stu's body requires
>> more calories than ours. A man can eat 2200 calories per day while we
>> may eat 1600. Your nephews, within a two year time period, will double
>> their caloric intake. In a few years, they will eat your refrigerator
>> bare, so be prepared. :-P When my oldest son turned 12, we were
>> having lunch, he ate his tuna salad sandwich then he asked if I was
>> going to eat the other half of mine. That is when I knew he had reached
>> puberty.
>>
>>
>> Becca
>
> <laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side. It's
> so unfair!

Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. <G>

In article >, Becca >
wrote:

> Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
> > The problem with that is that multivitamins, or singular vitamins
> > aren't absorbed as well as vitamins found in food. There is also the
> > problem of how vitamins and minerals work together, which nobody knows
> > completely about, and how to get those combinations to work properly in
> > a pill. It's better to get vitamins and minerals from food.
>
>
> Although I do take vitamins, there are phytonutrients in foods, that we
> are not even aware of, yet, at least this is what my doctor told me.
> You have to eat a variety of vegetables, fruits, beans and whole grains
> to make sure you are covered.
>
>
> Becca

Indeed! But the value of GOOD vitamin supplements should not be
underestimated. :-)

I do understand tho' that vitamins are NOT a substitute for a good diet.
They just are very helpful.
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:19:53 -0600, Becca > wrote:

> there are phytonutrients in foods, that we
> are not even aware of, yet, at least this is what my doctor told me.

Be careful. I have to look up big words like phytonutrients.

sf <impressed>

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sf wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:19:53 -0600, Becca > wrote:
>
>> there are phytonutrients in foods, that we
>> are not even aware of, yet, at least this is what my doctor told me.
>
> Be careful. I have to look up big words like phytonutrients.
>
> sf <impressed>

The stuff she knows is simply amazing. She can hold her own in almost
any conversation on damn near any subject.

But today she isn't feeling well so I made her soup for lunch and I did
a big pot of spaghetti sauce for supper and she is sitting in the
living room wrapped in a blanket watching TV and hopefully napping.
When she gets sick, ***I*** am the Boss around here... and she'll get
some rest and take her meds whether she likes it or not.

George L

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >, Becca >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >>> People in America have an unrealistic idea of proportions and the
> >>> amounts of food they eat. That is why there is an epidemic of obesity...
> >>>
> >> Americans do have a problem with obesity. Also, Stu's body requires
> >> more calories than ours. A man can eat 2200 calories per day while we
> >> may eat 1600. Your nephews, within a two year time period, will double
> >> their caloric intake. In a few years, they will eat your refrigerator
> >> bare, so be prepared. :-P When my oldest son turned 12, we were
> >> having lunch, he ate his tuna salad sandwich then he asked if I was
> >> going to eat the other half of mine. That is when I knew he had reached
> >> puberty.
> >>
> >>
> >> Becca
> >
> > <laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side. It's
> > so unfair!
>
> Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. <G>

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>,
Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> > > There is also the
> > > problem of how vitamins and minerals work together, which nobody knows
> > > completely about, and how to get those combinations to work properly in
> > > a pill. It's better to get vitamins and minerals from food.
> >
> > I agree up to a point (as per my previous post). Vitamin supplements
> > should always be taken with a meal! That really does make a difference.
> >
> > I see you've done your homework. <g>
>
> Yes. :-) We predominately use multivitamins when I am pregnant or
> when we are getting sick. I also keep some in our emergency stash,
> because I figure it is better to have them to supplement when we don't
> know what foods will be available to us. Mostly, though, we try to eat
> lots of vegetables, fruits, meats, fish, dairy, eggs, whole grains, etc,
>
> Regards,
> Ranee

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In article >,
George Leppla > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:19:53 -0600, Becca > wrote:
> >
> >> there are phytonutrients in foods, that we
> >> are not even aware of, yet, at least this is what my doctor told me.
> >
> > Be careful. I have to look up big words like phytonutrients.
> >
> > sf <impressed>
>
> The stuff she knows is simply amazing. She can hold her own in almost
> any conversation on damn near any subject.
>
> But today she isn't feeling well so I made her soup for lunch and I did
> a big pot of spaghetti sauce for supper and she is sitting in the
> living room wrapped in a blanket watching TV and hopefully napping.
> When she gets sick, ***I*** am the Boss around here... and she'll get
> some rest and take her meds whether she likes it or not.
>
> George L

Oh dear! Give her a sympathetic hug for me please? I hope she gets
better quickly!
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Omelet > wrote:

> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> Omelet > wrote:
>>
>> >People in America have an unrealistic idea of proportions and the
>> >amounts of food they eat. That is why there is an epidemic of obesity...
>>
>> You mean like north Americans eat an average of 4,500 calories
>> per day per person, and think that's perfectly okay? AND
>> complain about immigrants coming in to use our resourses?
>>
>> Unemployment is 15%, household income down 30% but caloric input remains
>> at its historical all-time high. So much for fat = rich. More
>> like fat = hopelessly in hock to the international capital markets...

>> Just wait and we'll see what happens.

>Will the results be a surprise?

Nope. There will be no more than a token pullback on energy
use, and the planet will continue to suffer the effects of
uncontrolled human overconsumption. Whether this means radical
climate change or not, is unclear, but whatever it is, it will be
radical and destructive beyond what we've yet witnessed.

I support locavores and others who are conscious of their
food resource use but I don't hold out much hope they can
turn the tide.

>My personal MAINTENANCE calorie intake is 1,200 to 1,500 kc per day. If
>I eat more than that, I gain weight. But, I also have hypothyroidism.
>If I want to lose weight, I have to cut to below 1,000 and it's not that
>hard to do once you change your attitude towards food. It's been an
>ongoing learning process.

Interesting. I have just learend a friend has hypothyroidism;
I had noticed his low food intake and he reported a low pulse
rate, but I didn't make the connection.

Steve

On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:27:18 -0600, George Leppla
> wrote:

> But today she isn't feeling well so I made her soup for lunch and I did
> a big pot of spaghetti sauce for supper and she is sitting in the
> living room wrapped in a blanket watching TV and hopefully napping.
> When she gets sick, ***I*** am the Boss around here... and she'll get
> some rest and take her meds whether she likes it or not.

Awww! That's what's nice about having a man around the house that can
cook. As my dad used to say during his years as a Hawaiian, "give her
a pat on the popo" for me.

Just wait until she gets better. You'll be like GWB and say: "I'm not
the decider anymore".

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In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> >My personal MAINTENANCE calorie intake is 1,200 to 1,500 kc per day. If
> >I eat more than that, I gain weight. But, I also have hypothyroidism.
> >If I want to lose weight, I have to cut to below 1,000 and it's not that
> >hard to do once you change your attitude towards food. It's been an
> >ongoing learning process.
>
> Interesting. I have just learend a friend has hypothyroidism;
> I had noticed his low food intake and he reported a low pulse
> rate, but I didn't make the connection.
>
> Steve

It's not an easy thing to live with, even when drug treated as that does
not always work well.

As for the rest of your post, the planet will always survive... even if
the human race does not.
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Omelet > wrote:

>As for the rest of your post, the planet will always survive... even if
>the human race does not.

Certainly. I admit up-front that my preference for
causing as little human damage to the planet as possible
is fundamentally an aesthetic need on my part, albeit a very
strong one, and one I feel okay about imposing on the rest
of everybody via our governmental institutions.

But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off, when
a hypervelocity star is predicted to pass through the
Oort cloud, sending hundreds of thousands of impactors into
the inner solar system. But it would be nice to maintain
a reasonable, stable environment without excessive species
death or human suffering until that point, wouldn't it?


Steve

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:39:00 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
Pope) wrote:

> Nope. There will be no more than a token pullback on energy
> use, and the planet will continue to suffer the effects of
> uncontrolled human overconsumption. Whether this means radical
> climate change or not, is unclear, but whatever it is, it will be
> radical and destructive beyond what we've yet witnessed.

There will never be anything other than over consumption until we get
the population growth rate under control. Italy seems to be in the
negative numbers with reproduction, and educated populations are at
least reproducing 1:1 for the most part... but the rest of the world -
OY!

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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
Pope) wrote:

> But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
> crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
> Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off,

The human race will be long gone before that happens.

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sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC), (Steve

>> But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
>> crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
>> Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off,

>The human race will be long gone before that happens.

Yes, if the human race continues to behave as it is now behaving.

But we could, with the right policies, survive up until that point.
It's physically possible. It's a matter of whether we have the
will to do it.

Steve

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
> crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
> Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off, when
> a hypervelocity star is predicted to pass through the
> Oort cloud, sending hundreds of thousands of impactors into
> the inner solar system. But it would be nice to maintain
> a reasonable, stable environment without excessive species
> death or human suffering until that point, wouldn't it?
>
>
> Steve

That would be nice, but world wide cataclysmic events seem to be a
standard theme on this hunk of rock. Just think what would happen if
Yellowstone Park (a known super-volcano) were to erupt?
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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:39:00 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
> Pope) wrote:
>
> > Nope. There will be no more than a token pullback on energy
> > use, and the planet will continue to suffer the effects of
> > uncontrolled human overconsumption. Whether this means radical
> > climate change or not, is unclear, but whatever it is, it will be
> > radical and destructive beyond what we've yet witnessed.
>
> There will never be anything other than over consumption until we get
> the population growth rate under control. Italy seems to be in the
> negative numbers with reproduction, and educated populations are at
> least reproducing 1:1 for the most part... but the rest of the world -
> OY!

This is so very true...
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In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> sf > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
>
> >> But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
> >> crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
> >> Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off,
>
> >The human race will be long gone before that happens.
>
> Yes, if the human race continues to behave as it is now behaving.
>
> But we could, with the right policies, survive up until that point.
> It's physically possible. It's a matter of whether we have the
> will to do it.
>
> Steve

What would you suggest? Legally controlled breeding like China has?
Might be practical, but it'll never be accepted by the general populace.
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On 2010-03-08, sf > wrote:
>
> The human race will be long gone before that happens.

I give us 50 yrs, max! :|

nb

Omelet > wrote:

> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> sf > wrote:

>> >On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
>>
>> >> But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
>> >> crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
>> >> Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off,

>> >The human race will be long gone before that happens.

>> Yes, if the human race continues to behave as it is now behaving.

>> But we could, with the right policies, survive up until that point.
>> It's physically possible. It's a matter of whether we have the
>> will to do it.

>What would you suggest? Legally controlled breeding like China has?
>Might be practical, but it'll never be accepted by the general populace.

If we want to survive until that impact event, and also avoid cycles
of mass starvation, some sort of authoritarian clampdown on
population would seem necessary.

Steve

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2010-03-08, sf > wrote:
> >
> > The human race will be long gone before that happens.
>
> I give us 50 yrs, max! :|
>
> nb

Gotta love thread drift. <g>
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:27:56 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
Pope) wrote:

> sf > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
>
> >> But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
> >> crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
> >> Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off,
>
> >The human race will be long gone before that happens.
>
> Yes, if the human race continues to behave as it is now behaving.
>
> But we could, with the right policies, survive up until that point.
> It's physically possible. It's a matter of whether we have the
> will to do it.
>
I wouldn't even worry about being starved to death. We'll blow
ourselves to smithereens in the not too distant future.


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In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> >> sf > wrote:
>
> >> >On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
> >>
> >> >> But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
> >> >> crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
> >> >> Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off,
>
> >> >The human race will be long gone before that happens.
>
> >> Yes, if the human race continues to behave as it is now behaving.
>
> >> But we could, with the right policies, survive up until that point.
> >> It's physically possible. It's a matter of whether we have the
> >> will to do it.
>
> >What would you suggest? Legally controlled breeding like China has?
> >Might be practical, but it'll never be accepted by the general populace.
>
> If we want to survive until that impact event, and also avoid cycles
> of mass starvation, some sort of authoritarian clampdown on
> population would seem necessary.
>
> Steve

But would people allow it? The Chinese fight it tooth and nail, and
there are always LOTS of female chinese babies for sale...
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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:27:56 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
> Pope) wrote:
>
> > sf > wrote:
> >
> > >On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
> >
> > >> But eventually, an impact event will occur that liquefies the
> > >> crust of the earth and kills everything but a few extremophiles.
> > >> Apparently this is no more than 8 million years off,
> >
> > >The human race will be long gone before that happens.
> >
> > Yes, if the human race continues to behave as it is now behaving.
> >
> > But we could, with the right policies, survive up until that point.
> > It's physically possible. It's a matter of whether we have the
> > will to do it.
> >
> I wouldn't even worry about being starved to death. We'll blow
> ourselves to smithereens in the not too distant future.

Nuclear war?

I'd be more concerned about drowning in our own midden heaps.
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On 2010-03-08, Omelet > wrote:

> Nuclear war?
>
> I'd be more concerned about drowning in our own midden heaps.

Yep. I have no doubt we will quickly die off after the World's ocean
ecosystems collapsed from abuse. Eighty percent of the Earth's
oxygen comes from the ocean and we're cutting down the forests that
supply the rest just as hard and fast as we can. I figure our only
hope is a MAJOR world-wide plague that kills off 95% of humanity
before the collapse occurs. Otherwise, we'll soon join the dinosaurs
in the fossil record and --surprise-- the next batch of oil really
will be Ethel!

nb

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2010-03-08, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > Nuclear war?
> >
> > I'd be more concerned about drowning in our own midden heaps.
>
> Yep. I have no doubt we will quickly die off after the World's ocean
> ecosystems collapsed from abuse. Eighty percent of the Earth's
> oxygen comes from the ocean and we're cutting down the forests that
> supply the rest just as hard and fast as we can. I figure our only
> hope is a MAJOR world-wide plague that kills off 95% of humanity
> before the collapse occurs. Otherwise, we'll soon join the dinosaurs
> in the fossil record and --surprise-- the next batch of oil really
> will be Ethel!
>
> nb

Gruesome humor, but so true. ;-)
There has seemed to be a real increase in the incidence of super viruses
lately... Over-crowding is a major factor in the spread of disease.
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Omelet > wrote:

> sf > wrote:

>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:27:56 +0000 (UTC), (Steve

[cosmic impact event]

>> > But we could, with the right policies, survive up until that point.
>> > It's physically possible. It's a matter of whether we have the
>> > will to do it.

>> I wouldn't even worry about being starved to death. We'll blow
>> ourselves to smithereens in the not too distant future.

>Nuclear war?

>I'd be more concerned about drowning in our own midden heaps.

Nuclear catastrophe or dying off from pollution... both are easy to
envision, take your pick.

S.

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > sf > wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:27:56 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
>
> [cosmic impact event]
>
> >> > But we could, with the right policies, survive up until that point.
> >> > It's physically possible. It's a matter of whether we have the
> >> > will to do it.
>
> >> I wouldn't even worry about being starved to death. We'll blow
> >> ourselves to smithereens in the not too distant future.
>
> >Nuclear war?
>
> >I'd be more concerned about drowning in our own midden heaps.
>
> Nuclear catastrophe or dying off from pollution... both are easy to
> envision, take your pick.
>
> S.

Which would be worse? I weep for the next generation. And not just due
to the above. So many of them don't know Jack about how to cook!!!

If civilization ever broke down, millions would starve to death. Ranee
once brought up foraging.

I know of several wild plants around here locally that are edible. How
many others know of them? Everybody would probably hoard the pecan
trees and maybe the cactus fruits and overlook the nutgrass, wild
persimons, dandilions, milk thistles, thistle heads (that we talked
about recently in a separate thread), acorns (if you know how to
process them), johnson grass and other wild grass seed heads, cattails
(both roots and blooms), taro that grows down at the river (altho' I'm
not sure if it's an edible variety so I'd have to check that out but
there are miles of it), and that's just off the top of my head. There
is also a wild rice that grows in the river.

I really need to pick up a book on this stuff. :-)
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:07:04 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >, "Jean B." >
> wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:25:55 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>>
>>>> People in America have an unrealistic idea of proportions and the
>>>> amounts of food they eat. That is why there is an epidemic of obesity...
>>>
>>> If they'd stop making it taste so good, then we wouldn't eat so
>>> much.
>>>
>>> If we were eating 1750's food, I would probably just be eating for
>>> sustenance.
>>>
>>> No, maybe not. They had BBQ back then. And moldy rye, too! I
>>> would a BBQ trippin' fiend.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> The easy access to good-tasting and/or high-calorie and/or
>> addictive food is a big factor, I think. If we all had to cook
>> our treats (and for that matter, put as much effort into that as
>> one had to in days of yore), we would be in better shape.
>
> Very true.

yeah, but no time to dick around on the intertubes. the only entertainment
was gossiping about the pastor's wife (or, for the lucky few, ****ing her).

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:37:08 -0600, George Leppla wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:36:04 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:
>>
>>> You mean like north Americans eat an average of 4,500 calories
>>> per day per person, and think that's perfectly okay? AND
>>> complain about immigrants coming in to use our resourses?
>>
>> That not a fair picture. i work for my food, and I also work to pay
>> taxes to [pay for welfare, food stamps, health care, and housing for
>> all asorts of people who *don't* work.
>>
>> I pay 56X more for everybody else's health insurance than I do for
>> *my own* health insurance. I'll eat that extra goddamn pot pie if I
>> want to, before some homeless immigrant and the Government comes
>> knock out at my door and confiscates my refrigerator.
>
> And don't forget that them dang Socialists are going to come and git
> yore guns, too... and make it impossible for you to buy any ammo, and
> they are going to indoctrinate yore chilluns in special camps and the
> head of all this is really one of them Mooselems who wasn't even born
> here. And we're all gonna have to be learned to talk Mexican and we
> won't be able to wish each other a Merry Christmas and all the illegal
> aliens will be on welfare while taking jobs away from 100% Red-Blooded
> Mericans while we pay to raise their illegitimate babies and the gubmint
> pays for all their abortions.
>
> How will we ever survive?
>
> George L

and queers! don't forget the queers!

your red-blooded american pal,
blake

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:12:14 -0500, blake murphy
> wrote:

> your red-blooded american pal,

red-blooded, *straight*, American pal.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

In article >,
Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> > I know exactly what you mean. So why do we do that to ourselves? <g> I
> > actually had to purchase a bottle of Pepto Bismol the other day. It's
> > been awhile.
>
> Because it is easy, because I think it will taste good, because it
> was such a good deal. I picked up some of those biscuits in a can the
> other day, got them for $0.39 a pop. Not worth it. Even if it was
> faster and easier. I know what is in them, so that's not worth it, and
> they don't taste good enough/have a good enough texture for me, plus, I
> ended up with a headache after eating them. I do it a couple times a
> year, though. Mostly it's the crescent rolls, though I've found a
> recipe for those that is made with actual butter and without hydrolyzed
> soy, etc.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee

Been there, done that. :-) I won't purchase it tho' unless I know I'm
going to revel in my sin (won't purchase it unless I know I'm going to
truly enjoy the taste), then pay for it later!

In spades...

I'm allergic to wheat but love the damned stuff that it is made in to.
Fortunately, I really do enjoy rice and shiratake noodles so that helps
a bit. I plan to learn to make rice bread eventually. Just have not
gotten a round tuit yet!

It is true that crap food tends to be cheap. I honestly believe that
that is what has contributed to the epidemic of obesity in America and
other more supposedly "advanced" nations.
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On Mar 4, 7:34*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 3:30*pm, notbob > wrote:
> > > As several of you know, we have frozen sewers (still) during this
> > > record setting Winter. *Making dirty dishes is a real hassle, so we
> > > are living on canned and frozen foods that can be nuked or sandwiches
> > > which need zero clean-up.
>
> > > Mom loves Banquet frozen meals. *They're cheap and she has little
> > > sense of taste. *I refuse to eat the damn things cuz --well, cuz they
> > > suck. *Except!! *I wuz hungry and lazy and found a dinky Banquet pot
> > > pie in the freezer. *What the Hell. *I expected little except to calm
> > > my belly. *Jes 5 mins in microwave and to my surprise, this little
> > > beef pot pie was astonishing. *For what it was, it had a lot of beef.
> > > Only 4-1/4" in diameter, a mere 7oz fer the whole pie, it was actually
> > > good. *Very beefy flavor, not too thick a crust --Marie Calender pot
> > > pies are easily one third crust-- and nice 1/2-2/3" cubes of real lean
> > > beef. *Not much in the way of veggies, a kernel of corn and a pea or
> > > two.... but very tasty and, did I mention beef!
>
> > > I was so impressed, next time I went to mrkt I made a point of picking
> > > up more of same. *Another shocker. *On sale for $.66! *Real beef, real
> > > crust, real gravy, really tasty, two thirds of a buck. *They're in
> > > those crisping type pie pans, so the crust comes out as good as oven
> > > baked. *Amazing. *Fer a little over a half a dollar, this is easily
> > > the best food deal in the mkt. *Buy a doz, eat two at a time. *
>
> > > nb
>
> > and full of a lot of crap that one shouldn't eat.
>
> But there are times when one does not care about that. Just like the
> frozen fried chicken I can get locally for $4.50 for 30 pieces. We have
> a local chicken place that, instead of wasting the fried chicken that
> expires under the hot lamps, waits until the time is almost (but not
> quite) expired, tosses 15 pieces into a bag and freezes it, then sells
> it at a drastic discount.
>
> Not the healthiest food, but it's cheap and tasty...

Astoundingly cheap.

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--Bryan

In article
>,
--Bryan > wrote:

> > But there are times when one does not care about that. Just like the
> > frozen fried chicken I can get locally for $4.50 for 30 pieces. We have
> > a local chicken place that, instead of wasting the fried chicken that
> > expires under the hot lamps, waits until the time is almost (but not
> > quite) expired, tosses 15 pieces into a bag and freezes it, then sells
> > it at a drastic discount.
> >
> > Not the healthiest food, but it's cheap and tasty...
>
> Astoundingly cheap.
>
>
> --Bryan

It is indeed. :-) It has been feeding dad for the past week. That and
mushroom and onion omelets with some of the chicken breast meat. He's
eaten better now for me than he has in awhile...

He loves fried chicken!

Interestingly enough, most of those "leftover" chicken pieces are thighs.
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
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> It is indeed. :-) It has been feeding dad for the past week. That and
> mushroom and onion omelets with some of the chicken breast meat. He's
> eaten better now for me than he has in awhile...
>
> He loves fried chicken!
>
> Interestingly enough, most of those "leftover" chicken pieces are thighs.

lol well you just send them over here, I love the thighs)


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In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > It is indeed. :-) It has been feeding dad for the past week. That and
> > mushroom and onion omelets with some of the chicken breast meat. He's
> > eaten better now for me than he has in awhile...
> >
> > He loves fried chicken!
> >
> > Interestingly enough, most of those "leftover" chicken pieces are thighs.
>
> lol well you just send them over here, I love the thighs)
>
>
> --

I do too! The meat is very versatile. :-)

I sometimes have trouble getting dad to eat. His back is hurting him
so... <sigh> So, I have to compromise in feeding him what he likes and
trying to keep it somewhat healthy. I'm going to steam a batch of baby
carrots today and buy some more bananas.

I've noted that adding MSG to food (it's a new ingredient for me) is
getting him to eat a little more!
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > It is indeed. :-) It has been feeding dad for the past week. That and
>> > mushroom and onion omelets with some of the chicken breast meat. He's
>> > eaten better now for me than he has in awhile...
>> >
>> > He loves fried chicken!
>> >
>> > Interestingly enough, most of those "leftover" chicken pieces are
>> > thighs.
>>
>> lol well you just send them over here, I love the thighs)
>>
>>
>> --
>
> I do too! The meat is very versatile. :-)
>
> I sometimes have trouble getting dad to eat. His back is hurting him
> so... <sigh> So, I have to compromise in feeding him what he likes and
> trying to keep it somewhat healthy. I'm going to steam a batch of baby
> carrots today and buy some more bananas.
>
> I've noted that adding MSG to food (it's a new ingredient for me) is
> getting him to eat a little more!

He is very lucky to have you Well I didn't find msg but I did find Knorr
Aromat 'all purpose savoury seasoning' It has salt as its first ingredient
and msg as its second, so I am using it very sparingly. It is lovely to
have that salt thing again.
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