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"Ophelia" > wrote:

> > I sometimes have trouble getting dad to eat. His back is hurting him
> > so... <sigh> So, I have to compromise in feeding him what he likes and
> > trying to keep it somewhat healthy. I'm going to steam a batch of baby
> > carrots today and buy some more bananas.
> >
> > I've noted that adding MSG to food (it's a new ingredient for me) is
> > getting him to eat a little more!

>
> He is very lucky to have you


He said that just yesterday. :-)

> Well I didn't find msg but I did find Knorr
> Aromat 'all purpose savoury seasoning' It has salt as its first ingredient
> and msg as its second, so I am using it very sparingly. It is lovely to
> have that salt thing again.
> --


Cool! It's a very interesing "spice".
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:41:54 GMT in rec.food.cooking, notbob
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>supply the rest just as hard and fast as we can. I figure our only
>hope is a MAJOR world-wide plague that kills off 95% of humanity
>before the collapse occurs. Otherwise, we'll soon join the dinosaurs


"Hundreds of millions of people will soon perish in smog disasters in
New York and Los Angeles...the oceans will die of DDT poisoning by
1979...the U.S. life expectancy will drop to 42 years by 1980 due to
cancer epidemics."
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> The problem with that is that multivitamins, or singular vitamins
>aren't absorbed as well as vitamins found in food.


So, take more of them. They're cheap enough.

(In addition to eating good food, of course.)

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> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:41:27 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, Ranée at Arabian
> Knits > wrote,
> > The problem with that is that multivitamins, or singular vitamins
> >aren't absorbed as well as vitamins found in food.

>
> So, take more of them. They're cheap enough.
>
> (In addition to eating good food, of course.)
>


Vitamin supplements do not replace food. She has that one so very right!
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:25:27 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:12:14 -0500, blake murphy
> > wrote:
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>> your red-blooded american pal,

>
> red-blooded, *straight*, American pal.


so few of us left, what with the mooslims and faggotz and all.

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> My personal MAINTENANCE calorie intake is 1,200 to 1,500 kc per day. If
> I eat more than that, I gain weight. But, I also have hypothyroidism.


aren't you taking some sort of thyroid replacement? If so, I don't think
that argument holds much water and it is an excuse used too often by people.
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>> <laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side.
>> It's so unfair!

>
> Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. <G>


Women also have testosterone and sometimes require augmentation when
their levels are too low.
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> Indeed! But the value of GOOD vitamin supplements should not be
> underestimated. :-)
>
> I do understand tho' that vitamins are NOT a substitute for a good diet.
> They just are very helpful.


They are often just expensive pee.
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Goomba > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > My personal MAINTENANCE calorie intake is 1,200 to 1,500 kc per day. If
> > I eat more than that, I gain weight. But, I also have hypothyroidism.

>
> aren't you taking some sort of thyroid replacement? If so, I don't think
> that argument holds much water and it is an excuse used too often by people.


It depends on how well the thyroid supplements work. I'll refer you to
my endocrinologist that put me on beta blockers because the T4
supplement raised my heart rate. Her name is Dr. Elizabeth Ritchie in
New Braunfels Texas.
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Goomba > wrote:

> George Shirley wrote:
>
> >> <laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side.
> >> It's so unfair!

> >
> > Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. <G>

>
> Women also have testosterone and sometimes require augmentation when
> their levels are too low.


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Goomba > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > Indeed! But the value of GOOD vitamin supplements should not be
> > underestimated. :-)
> >
> > I do understand tho' that vitamins are NOT a substitute for a good diet.
> > They just are very helpful.

>
> They are often just expensive pee.


Oh my gods... You just proved how really ignorant you are! And here I
was developing some actual respect for you!
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On 2010-03-10, Omelet > wrote:

> my endocrinologist that put me on beta blockers because the T4
> supplement raised my heart rate.


Be aware, Om. Beta blockers can slow your heart to the point it can't
do it's job. I spent 2 yrs going to docs only to finally discover --on my
own!-- that I was being overdosed. Reducing the beta blocker dosage
stopped 2 yrs of scary heart "episodes".

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>On 2010-03-10, Omelet > wrote:


>> my endocrinologist that put me on beta blockers because the T4
>> supplement raised my heart rate.


>Be aware, Om. Beta blockers can slow your heart to the point it can't
>do it's job. I spent 2 yrs going to docs only to finally discover --on my
>own!-- that I was being overdosed. Reducing the beta blocker dosage
>stopped 2 yrs of scary heart "episodes".


Another thing to try is taking them in divided dose.
I was having excessively low pulse rates (sometime 40) until
I divided it into a 2X per day dose instead of 1X.

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> Goomba > wrote:
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>> George Shirley wrote:
>>
>>>> <laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side.
>>>> It's so unfair!
>>> Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. <G>

>> Women also have testosterone and sometimes require augmentation when
>> their levels are too low.

>
> Just remember dear, you are a nurse, not an MD.


Just remember as a working critical care nurse I get to deal with
patients and their diseases, and have to deal with this stuff. You?


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> In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:


>>> I do understand tho' that vitamins are NOT a substitute for a good diet.
>>> They just are very helpful.


>> They are often just expensive pee.

>
> Oh my gods... You just proved how really ignorant you are! And here I
> was developing some actual respect for you!


Which part of my statement do you disagree with exactly? LOL
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:44:12 -0600, Omelet >
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>In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>
>> >> <laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side.
>> >> It's so unfair!
>> >
>> > Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. <G>

>>
>> Women also have testosterone and sometimes require augmentation when
>> their levels are too low.

>
>Just remember dear, you are a nurse, not an MD.


Yes indeed, this newgroup is certainly not the place to be giving out
medical information, that's why we see our doctors.
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>Yes indeed, this newgroup is certainly not the place to be giving out
>medical information, that's why we see our doctors.


In the U.S., not everybody has a doctor. And, not every
doctor in the U.S. likes to give out medical information.


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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:01:47 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2010-03-10, Omelet > wrote:
>
>> my endocrinologist that put me on beta blockers because the T4
>> supplement raised my heart rate.

>
>Be aware, Om. Beta blockers can slow your heart to the point it can't
>do it's job. I spent 2 yrs going to docs only to finally discover --on my
>own!-- that I was being overdosed. Reducing the beta blocker dosage
>stopped 2 yrs of scary heart "episodes".
>
>nb


I as well, the doctor finally realized what he was doing to me and
took me off them all together.
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:12:56 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, Ranée at Arabian
Knits > wrote,
>In article > ,
> David Harmon > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:41:27 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, Ranée at Arabian
>> Knits > wrote,
>> > The problem with that is that multivitamins, or singular vitamins
>> >aren't absorbed as well as vitamins found in food.

>>
>> So, take more of them. They're cheap enough.

>
> And damage my kidneys? I'd rather eat good, varied foods.


Something that isn't absorbed, as you claim to be "the problem", cannot
damage your kidneys. it has to be absorbed from the digestive tract
into your blood in order to even reach your kidneys.


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timbers do clense air,,huge public parks,,wild free keep quiet spaces of
clean breezes winds,for the mix of congested cities,human breath
suffering from gasses,smoke,toxic clouds,

flooded cities fill state with a evil killing broth of
oil,chemical,poisons cropsprays,bug spray,floating in degraded roiling
rivers
making putrid our breathing from that mess,dead critters,wildlife,and
stock, pets,
dead in waves,

our lungs are not over it yet ,oxygen,extractor give us fresh cool
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> On 2010-03-10, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > my endocrinologist that put me on beta blockers because the T4
> > supplement raised my heart rate.

>
> Be aware, Om. Beta blockers can slow your heart to the point it can't
> do it's job. I spent 2 yrs going to docs only to finally discover --on my
> own!-- that I was being overdosed. Reducing the beta blocker dosage
> stopped 2 yrs of scary heart "episodes".
>
> nb


I keep track, but I appreciate the warning...:-) I take Propranolol.
It agrees with me pretty well so far.

Without it, my resting heart rate is 110.
With it, it runs 80 to 85 bpm.
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Goomba > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Goomba > wrote:
> >
> >> George Shirley wrote:
> >>
> >>>> <laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side.
> >>>> It's so unfair!
> >>> Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. <G>
> >> Women also have testosterone and sometimes require augmentation when
> >> their levels are too low.

> >
> > Just remember dear, you are a nurse, not an MD.

>
> Just remember as a working critical care nurse I get to deal with
> patients and their diseases, and have to deal with this stuff. You?


You are still not an MD...
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Goomba > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Goomba > wrote:

>
> >>> I do understand tho' that vitamins are NOT a substitute for a good diet.
> >>> They just are very helpful.

>
> >> They are often just expensive pee.

> >
> > Oh my gods... You just proved how really ignorant you are! And here I
> > was developing some actual respect for you!

>
> Which part of my statement do you disagree with exactly? LOL


That vitamins make "expensive pee".

I guess you are behind the times.. but that's no surprise.

You are not an MD. My endo' told me to take extra B12 and folic acid,
and Iron, as well as a good multi-mineral supplement to include calcium.
I suppose you know more than her?
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June > wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:44:12 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > Goomba > wrote:
> >
> >> George Shirley wrote:
> >>
> >> >> <laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side.
> >> >> It's so unfair!
> >> >
> >> > Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. <G>
> >>
> >> Women also have testosterone and sometimes require augmentation when
> >> their levels are too low.

> >
> >Just remember dear, you are a nurse, not an MD.

>
> Yes indeed, this newgroup is certainly not the place to be giving out
> medical information, that's why we see our doctors.


I've pretty much quit doing it for the most part. Goomba is overstepping
her training. I've learned not to do that. I only share personal
experience now.

But, you do get what you pay for. Anyone who actually takes medical
advice off of usenet...

Well, it's their risk!
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Stu > wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:01:47 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >On 2010-03-10, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >> my endocrinologist that put me on beta blockers because the T4
> >> supplement raised my heart rate.

> >
> >Be aware, Om. Beta blockers can slow your heart to the point it can't
> >do it's job. I spent 2 yrs going to docs only to finally discover --on my
> >own!-- that I was being overdosed. Reducing the beta blocker dosage
> >stopped 2 yrs of scary heart "episodes".
> >
> >nb

>
> I as well, the doctor finally realized what he was doing to me and
> took me off them all together.


I understand, but I really do need them. Without them, I'm very, very
uncomfortable.
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:40:09 -0600, Omelet >
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>In article >,
> notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2010-03-10, Omelet > wrote:
>>
>> > my endocrinologist that put me on beta blockers because the T4
>> > supplement raised my heart rate.

>>
>> Be aware, Om. Beta blockers can slow your heart to the point it can't
>> do it's job. I spent 2 yrs going to docs only to finally discover --on my
>> own!-- that I was being overdosed. Reducing the beta blocker dosage
>> stopped 2 yrs of scary heart "episodes".
>>
>> nb

>
>I keep track, but I appreciate the warning...:-) I take Propranolol.
>It agrees with me pretty well so far.
>
>Without it, my resting heart rate is 110.
>With it, it runs 80 to 85 bpm.


Wow that's alittle high, my resting is 55-57
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:43:06 -0600, Omelet >
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>In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>> > In article >,
>> > Goomba > wrote:

>>
>> >>> I do understand tho' that vitamins are NOT a substitute for a good diet.
>> >>> They just are very helpful.

>>
>> >> They are often just expensive pee.
>> >
>> > Oh my gods... You just proved how really ignorant you are! And here I
>> > was developing some actual respect for you!

>>
>> Which part of my statement do you disagree with exactly? LOL

>
>That vitamins make "expensive pee".
>
>I guess you are behind the times.. but that's no surprise.
>
>You are not an MD. My endo' told me to take extra B12 and folic acid,
>and Iron, as well as a good multi-mineral supplement to include calcium.
>I suppose you know more than her?


You do know that she's correct to a point, your body takes what it
needs and the rest is expelled. So say you only need to top up the
vitamin, you might intake 10% and expell 90%, basically expensive pee.
I don't have to tell anyone that vitamins are very expensive.
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On 2010-03-11, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
> June > wrote:


>> Yes indeed, this newgroup is certainly not the place to be giving out
>> medical information, that's why we see our doctors.

>
> I've pretty much quit doing it for the most part. Goomba is overstepping
> her training. I've learned not to do that. I only share personal
> experience now.
>
> But, you do get what you pay for. Anyone who actually takes medical
> advice off of usenet...
>
> Well, it's their risk!


Doctors are not deities from on high. They are human beings with all
the same faults and foibles as the rest of us. Having said that, I tend
to trust most doctors, but with a measure of healthy skepticism.

In the case of my heart "episodes", it was me that figured it out, not
any one of a half dozen physicians I saw over the period of two years.
In another well documented case I'm very familiar with, a fairly young
man nearly died, despite being treated at the Mayo Clinic. They
couldn't figure out what was wrong with him. He got on the web and
working day and night --he was literally at death's door, at that
point!-- finally diagnosed his own illness and told the docs. They
treated him accordingly and he's now just fine.

I'm not saying all doctors are all knowing or you shouldn't trust
them, I'm just saying it pays to be fully involved in what is
happening to yourself and be as much informed as you can possible be.
There's no such thing as too much information.

I will make one generalization about doctors. If I run across one
that doesn't think he needs to listen to what I have to say or
dismisses my concerns, I'm outta there.

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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:31:17 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

> June > wrote:
>
>>Yes indeed, this newgroup is certainly not the place to be giving out
>>medical information, that's why we see our doctors.

>
> In the U.S., not everybody has a doctor. And, not every
> doctor in the U.S. likes to give out medical information.


<snort>

man, i bet many doctors hate, hate, hate the internet. 'but doc, i read
here on this internet site that...'

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Stu wrote:

>>>> My ducks are Maple Leaf Farms brand, from New York.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>> That would be Canada, definately not New York.

>>
>> Maple Leaf Farms are headquartered in Indiana.
>>
>> George L

>
> You need to read as well George.



So let's see...

Someone says "My ducks are Maple Leaf Farms brand, from New York."

You reply was "That would be Canada, definately not New York."

And I tell you that Maple Leaf Farms (and we are talking about DUCKS)
are located in Indiana.... not Canada.


What part of that don't you understand?

Try reading for comprehension before you go pointing any fingers at
anyone else.

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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:45:18 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> June > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:44:12 -0600, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>In article >,
>>> Goomba > wrote:
>>>
>>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> <laughs> I've heard that! Men do have Testosterone on their side.
>>>> >> It's so unfair!
>>>> >
>>>> > Until they get old and then they have to take pills for it. <G>
>>>>
>>>> Women also have testosterone and sometimes require augmentation when
>>>> their levels are too low.
>>>
>>>Just remember dear, you are a nurse, not an MD.

>>
>> Yes indeed, this newgroup is certainly not the place to be giving out
>> medical information, that's why we see our doctors.

>
> I've pretty much quit doing it for the most part. Goomba is overstepping
> her training. I've learned not to do that. I only share personal
> experience now.


love you like a sister, honey, but sometimes your personal experiences
sound kinda nutty. so i wouldn't fault goomba for sharing what she knows.

> But, you do get what you pay for. Anyone who actually takes medical
> advice off of usenet...
>
> Well, it's their risk!


there is that.

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:46:46 -0500, Goomba wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
>> Indeed! But the value of GOOD vitamin supplements should not be
>> underestimated. :-)
>>
>> I do understand tho' that vitamins are NOT a substitute for a good diet.
>> They just are very helpful.

>
> They are often just expensive pee.


but it's so purty!

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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:20:32 -0600, maura ms wrote:

> timbers do clense air,,huge public parks,,wild free keep quiet spaces of
> clean breezes winds,for the mix of congested cities,human breath
> suffering from gasses,smoke,toxic clouds,
>
> flooded cities fill state with a evil killing broth of
> oil,chemical,poisons cropsprays,bug spray,floating in degraded roiling
> rivers
> making putrid our breathing from that mess,dead critters,wildlife,and
> stock, pets,
> dead in waves,
>
> our lungs are not over it yet ,oxygen,extractor give us fresh cool
> oxygen,to sleep,well,
> gaspings so coarse dry mouth ,seeking air,
> water bottle ,plus oxygen,lets us struggle
> more ,to get thru week,


thank you, jeremiah.

blake
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Default Frozen pot pie shocker!

George Leppla wrote:
> Stu wrote:
>
>>>>> My ducks are Maple Leaf Farms brand, from New York.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>> That would be Canada, definately not New York.
>>>
>>> Maple Leaf Farms are headquartered in Indiana.
>>>
>>> George L

>>
>> You need to read as well George.

>
>
> So let's see...
>
> Someone says "My ducks are Maple Leaf Farms brand, from New York."
>
> You reply was "That would be Canada, definately not New York."
>
> And I tell you that Maple Leaf Farms (and we are talking about DUCKS)
> are located in Indiana.... not Canada.
>
>
> What part of that don't you understand?
>
> Try reading for comprehension before you go pointing any fingers at
> anyone else.


I hope the Maple Leaf nursery near me hasn't move to Canada.

nancy, worried
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