sf wrote:

>> A nice thing about rosemary is "salamoia bolognese", a dry mix based

> Great! I have several types of sage growing in my yard and I never
> have enough to do with them. Thanks for the idea! I'll just do it on
> an as needed basis though because I prefer my rosemary and sage to be
> fresh.

Glad you like that. BTW, many people recommend to use coarse salt, saying
that it helps with the mortar & pestel process.
--
Vilco
Don't think pink: drink rosè

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:10:31 -0800, "Kent" > wrote:
>
>> Lunardi's in the East Bay and the South Bay.
>> http://lunardis.com/html/locations.html We've been shopping at most of
>> their
>> locations for many years. They have old fashioned butchers. Their prices
>> are
>> fair. Their weekly sale ad comes out tomorrow on the internet.
>
> Lunardi's? You think their prices are "fair"? Oh, man. The one we
> have is three towns away and I think it's expensive. That's where I
> paid $9 for a 24 oz bag of dried cannellini beans.
>
> --
>
For general grocery items, our Lunardi's is maybe a bit cheaper than our
local Safeway. Our price for dried cannelloni beans was about $1.$.69/lb or
so. Most of our ongoing items are purchased at Costco, so I can't accurately
measure that. . They weren't organic, however.Their sale produce is much
better and well priced compared to Safeway. Of course most of our produce
is purchased at the Berkeley Bowl.

We couldn't live with Safeway meat ongoing. Yellow onions have been at
$.89/lb!!! That Rancher's Reserve, is a bunch of USDA select, is disgusting.

Where do you get meat in SF? We used to go to Bryan's and the CalMart. Are
they still there? Are they pricey? Lunardi's USDA Choice Standing Rib was
$8.99/lb yesterday. More than Costco, but not bad.

Kent

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:08:55 -0800, "Kent" > wrote:

> For general grocery items, our Lunardi's is maybe a bit cheaper than our
> local Safeway. Our price for dried cannelloni beans was about $1.$.69/lb or
> so.

Not over here. Lunardi's here is in the Molly Stone range, maybe
more. Tower is now Molly Stone, but it's still the same size as the
old Tower Market. They kept Tower's meat department and improved the
deli section, but I rarely shop there.

> Most of our ongoing items are purchased at Costco, so I can't accurately
> measure that. . They weren't organic, however. Their sale produce is much
> better and well priced compared to Safeway. Of course most of our produce
> is purchased at the Berkeley Bowl.

Sale produce? Well, I did like the variety of Berkeley Bowl. Nothing
like that on my side of town. My Safeways have excellent produce
(maybe it's because of the Asian demand for freshness), just not the
Berkeley Bowl type of variety.
>
> We couldn't live with Safeway meat ongoing. Yellow onions have been at
> $.89/lb!!! That Rancher's Reserve, is a bunch of USDA select, is disgusting.
>
We've had good luck with Rancher's Reserve. You pick and choose.
Apparently, we've chosen well.

> Where do you get meat in SF? We used to go to Bryan's and the CalMart. Are
> they still there?

In Laurel Village? As far as I know. That's across town for me. We
have custom butchers over here on Taraval and now on Ocean.

> Are they pricey?

I'd say they are in the Lunardi's strata. They aren't one block away
from Pacific Heights for no reason. Not a first choice, but I'll go
to CalMart for something I can't find elsewhere... like sorrel.

> Lunardi's USDA Choice Standing Rib was $8.99/lb yesterday. More than Costco, but not bad.

We just buy that at christmas time, when it's really really cheap.


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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:03:10 -0800 (PST), PickyJaz >
wrote:

>On Mar 8, 7:33*am, "Steve B" > wrote:
>Snip...
>> This year, I believe I shall make a raised plot for that and other herbs.
>Be careful where you plant it because it will take over. Do know that
>Rosemary does make a very fast growing ground cover and seems to
>thrive forever. At least it does here in my California High Desert.
>A landscaping friend of mine planted Rosemary in an already raised bed
>all the way around the corner of a parking lot bordering a small
>shopping center here. Within less than six months the plants had
>spread out and grown to over three feet tall, near to completely
>blocking the center's store fronts from traffic view. A suggestion
>for growing it where you don't want it to take over is to pot it for
>containment.
>...Picky

Be aware there are two different cultivars of rosemary. One of these
grows as an erect plant, which is desirable. The other ("prostrata"),
stays short and spreading, both in stem and root. Stay with something
like the erect Tuscan Blue variety and you will be OK. The ones they
sell as Xmas bonsai are OK, but may not be of the best culinary
flavor. I grow maybe 3 or 4 different varieties and have not had the
spreading problem since I dug up my prostrate variety. They are frost
resistant, but not freeze proof. Container planting is OK, but when
they get to be a yard tall, the size of the pot may be a problem when
you try to move it. Rosemary likes heat, so if you plant it in a
sunny location which is protected from icy winds, simply covering it
with a polyethylene sheet may be enough to prevent it from freezing.

HTH

Alex

Steve B wrote:
>
> We do real estate studies in Las Vegas, and rosemary is a VERY common
> landscaping plant. This is dark green, looks like fuzzy tail on an animal,
> and has purple flowers.
>
> My question is: Is rosemary all edible, or are there varieties grown for
> human consumption?
>
> I saw Gordon Ramsey use it pulled through a hole in a fowl breast, then the
> breast was grilled, and the rosemary removed. The smell from just pulling
> it stayed on my hands for quite a while, and in the car interior. Sure
> would be an easy plant to grow and harvest.
>
> This year, I believe I shall make a raised plot for that and other herbs.
>
> Steve

AFAIK all varieties of rosemary are edible. Haven't heard that any
nastiness needed to be bred out of it. They will taste different though.

Rosemary is very easy to grow, particularly in a dry climate (as Las
Vegas is). Ours doesn't seem to ever have bloomed. Could have missed it
though...we do keep it cut back.

On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:46:21 -0700, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>Steve B wrote:
>>
>> We do real estate studies in Las Vegas, and rosemary is a VERY common
>> landscaping plant. This is dark green, looks like fuzzy tail on an animal,
>> and has purple flowers.
>>
>> My question is: Is rosemary all edible, or are there varieties grown for
>> human consumption?
>>
>> I saw Gordon Ramsey use it pulled through a hole in a fowl breast, then the
>> breast was grilled, and the rosemary removed. The smell from just pulling
>> it stayed on my hands for quite a while, and in the car interior. Sure
>> would be an easy plant to grow and harvest.
>>
>> This year, I believe I shall make a raised plot for that and other herbs.
>>
>> Steve
>
>AFAIK all varieties of rosemary are edible. Haven't heard that any
>nastiness needed to be bred out of it. They will taste different though.

Rosemary is not really something one thinks of as edible, it's a
flavoring agent like bay leaf.