"Ophelia" > wrote

>> Modern day miracle!!!
>
> Oh yes! I also have had knee replacements! Within my lifetime I could
> have been blind and in a wheelchair!!

Anyone with heart problems today would likely be dead twenty years ago.

Steve

"Omelet" > wrote

> I think everybody has to do what works for them!


I do not think you realize how profound that advice is medically.

Steve

"Jean B." > wrote

> No COBRA? I kept my health insurance through COBRA and have kept it ever
> since. I won't be able to afford it indefinitely. You wouldn't believe
> my premiums.
> Jean B.

I know. It's ridiculous, isn't it? It's $291 a month for health, dental,
and vision for me and my wife!

Steve, ducking and running from INCOMING!

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:33:34 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> > Gotcha. I'll check them next time, thanks! For now tho', I won't be
> > getting new glasses anytime soon. I have to be able to pay for a Dr.'s
> > appt and that's out until I have insurance again.
>
> CostCo has an optometrist in house, they are "independent" but I bet
> it's reasonable. My glasses are ready to be picked up, so if I think
> about it when I'm there I'll find out for you.

Pinching pennies! New glasses are not a priority. ;-) I'll get by but
thanks for thinking of me...

> >
> > Got a call about 1 hour ago from the Blood Bank supervisor. She needs a
> > separate interview. Monday at 10:30 am. Wish me luck that I don't screw
> > it up! <sigh>
>
> Good luck!
>
> > BB supervisors are picky with good reason, and I do lack
> > some speciality skills.
> >
> > But I can learn...
>
> You are certainly familiar with the computer (talk it up), all you
> need to learn are the specialized programs they use. Since your last
> job was computer related and medical, you should have the inside
> track.

I wish it was that easy! I've not done the _physical_ stuff in over 20
years. Antibody panels, elutions, working with warm auto-antibodies,
patients with rouleaux from drug interactions etc... even the wetwork
that I'm normally proficient in can get difficult. Please understand
that a blood bank error is one place in the laboratory that even a minor
screwup on my part can literally kill somebody, so the section
supervisor is very picky. If I do not pass this interview, I'm screwed
even tho' they are offering 10 weeks of additional training that I feel
I'd need to do this right. Our lab was basic. Blood bank abnormalities
were sent to San Antonio to the Southwest Texas Blood and Tissue Center
for special processing and compatible units were sent back to the lab
for minimal re-work prior to being issued. It's not a small thing.
>
> Crossing my fingers for you!

Thanks hon'. I appreciate that! I understand what is involved, I'm
just not proficient at it without extra training and I need her to
understand that I'm willing to undergo re-training! There may be
candidates that know this stuff better than I do. :-(



>
>
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> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "James Silverton" > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> When I attended Oban High School, corporal punishment was allowed (with
> >> a broad leather strap called a tawse). My math teacher, Mr. Troup,
> >> hardly ever used it being a dead shot with pieces of chalk when he saw
> >> you talking or just being innattentive in his opinion. I don't think any
> >> of my fellow brats ever complained; a great contrast from present day
> >> conditions. Actually, Mr. Troup and I stayed friends to the end of his
> >> life.
> >
> > I honest to gods wish it was still that way!
> > --
> > Peace! Om
>
> Marine DI screaming in grunt's face. Reply: "You don't scare me, I went to
> Catholic school."
>
> I saw public beatings in Catholic and public schools.
>
> Steve

I went to parochial school thru the 5th grade.
So I understand.
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"Steve B" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote
>
> > I think everybody has to do what works for them!
>
>
> I do not think you realize how profound that advice is medically.
>
> Steve

Actually, I do. But I don't think that Goomba does...
I am a statistic of one. And I KNOW that!
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sf wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:20:04 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> I also would, as a result, NEVER
>> consider such lenses in conjunction with cataract surgery, so
>> perhaps this was a valuable learning experience for me.
>
> I just went through that. You won't even have an option unless both
> eyes need surgery.
>

What will they use if one eye needs it? This may be a good
argument for postponing surgery until the second eye is nearly
ready? (If possible.)

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First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Omelet wrote:
> In article >, "Jean B." >
> wrote:
>
> Progressive lenses:
>
>>> It took me 2 weeks to adapt, just like the MD told me they would. I did
>>> not go to an Optometrist. My insurance paid better for a full eye exam
>>> from a local MD eye doctor. I'd known Dr. Way for years so trusted him.
>>>
>>> They have worked out well!
>>>
>>> My personal opinion (and ymmv) is that adapting to them can be somewhat
>>> of a matter of being willing to put up with the temporary inconvenience.
>>>
>>> But, whatever works for you of course! <g> I really, really like them!
>> I think whether or not one is pleased with them also depends on
>> what one tends to do with one's eyes!
>>
>> I will say that I suspect my glasses may have been slightly "off"
>> somehow. At any rate, I won't do that again (ca $700 bucks, but
>> the frames are salvageable.) I also would, as a result, NEVER
>> consider such lenses in conjunction with cataract surgery, so
>> perhaps this was a valuable learning experience for me.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> Ok, granted, I've not had cataract surgery... :-)
>
> I think everybody has to do what works for them!
>
> And that actually includes recipes (to bring it kicking and screaming
> back on topic <g>)

recipes?! gasp! We were speaking of eyes, so does that segue
back into pearl tapioca?

--
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, "Jean B." >
> wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> I will, thanks! Dr. Way told me that my eyes would change about every 4
>>> years for awhile, then they would stabilize and I've been noting a
>>> change now. I think it's been about 3 years.
>>>
>>> My problem is that I currently have no health insurance and am pinching
>>> pennies until I get a new job... so I just have to put up with it.
>>>
>>> I'll try then. Insurance benefits at a new job do not kick in for 90
>>> days, typically.
>>>
>>> Thanks again. :-)
>> No COBRA? I kept my health insurance through COBRA and have kept
>> it ever since. I won't be able to afford it indefinitely. You
>> wouldn't believe my premiums.
>
> I can't afford the premiums.

Yes, that IS a problem. :-(

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sf wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:21:50 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> No COBRA? I kept my health insurance through COBRA and have kept
>> it ever since. I won't be able to afford it indefinitely. You
>> wouldn't believe my premiums.
>
> When I've paid COBRA, the premiums were the total of my part and the
> employers part. It was brutal.
>
Yes, that was the case for me too.

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All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Ophelia wrote:
>
> if you have cataract surgery and don't have the implants, you will be
> totally blind, because the lens in your eye is removed.
>

Of course. No one is proposing that.

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blake murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:47:59 -0800, Steve B wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote
>>
>>> I got my progressive lenses about 2 or 3 years ago. They are wonderful
>>> but yeah, I do need a neck massage now and then. :-)
>>> --
>>> Peace! Om
>> I like progressives, and have a pair coming in about a week for times when I
>> can't wear contacts. I have worn them for about five years now. I don't
>> see how anyone can wear anything but the no lines.
>>
>> Steve
>
> the first pair of pregressives i had i could not get used to. i'd look
> down at my feet and they looked like they belonged to someone else. this
> is no longer a problem.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Oh yes. I forgot about that (minus your last sentence).

--
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brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:48:59 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:15:28 -0600, Omelet >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Imho, the cost of frames is assinine!
>>> Over what amount is too much?
>> Well, I paid $90.00 for these, and I really do like them.
>> I'd like to not pay over $50.00 if I had a choice. I'd rather not wear
>> ugly ass frames!
>
> $90 won't buy quality frames. High quality frames run about $200. I
> buy only Flexon frames. They cost $225 but mine are nine years old
> and have had the lenses replaced with a new Rx four times over the
> nine years, the frames are good as new so to me they are a bargain.
> They are very light weight while exceptionally strong.
>
> http://www.all-about-eyeglasses.com/...yeglasses.html
>
>
I also have titanium frames and have never had to replace them.
The sale person at my last visit to the optician's office told me
I had to replace them. I said that was not the case and talked to
to man who owned the place. She was new and didn't know any better.
--
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Steve B wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote
>
>> No COBRA? I kept my health insurance through COBRA and have kept it ever
>> since. I won't be able to afford it indefinitely. You wouldn't believe
>> my premiums.
>> Jean B.
>
> I know. It's ridiculous, isn't it? It's $291 a month for health, dental,
> and vision for me and my wife!
>
> Steve, ducking and running from INCOMING!
>
>
You don't want to know what I pay for myself only. (If you do, it
will be sent privately.) Let's just say I would be deliriously
happy to pay that amount. Gee, mine also doesn't include dental
or optical care.

--
Jean B.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Omelet wrote:
> Thanks hon'. I appreciate that! I understand what is involved, I'm
> just not proficient at it without extra training and I need her to
> understand that I'm willing to undergo re-training! There may be
> candidates that know this stuff better than I do. :-(
>

Oh, I understand that altogether too well. You may also be up
against people who lie about what they can and will do.

--
Jean B.

Jean B. > wrote:

>sf wrote:

>> When I've paid COBRA, the premiums were the total of my part and the
>> employers part. It was brutal.

>Yes, that was the case for me too.

The one time I had the possibility of going on COBRA, the
COBRA monthly premiums were 50% higher than buying
similar, non-COBRA coverage from the same provider.

Part of this was due to the former employer having a high-priced
policy, part of it was due to my age/health being at the time
favorable.

Steve

Jean B. > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:

>> if you have cataract surgery and don't have the implants, you will be
>> totally blind, because the lens in your eye is removed.


>Of course. No one is proposing that.

I bet you can find a health insurer whose policy makes you
pay extra for the implants.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:
> Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>
>>> When I've paid COBRA, the premiums were the total of my part and the
>>> employers part. It was brutal.
>
>> Yes, that was the case for me too.
>
> The one time I had the possibility of going on COBRA, the
> COBRA monthly premiums were 50% higher than buying
> similar, non-COBRA coverage from the same provider.
>
> Part of this was due to the former employer having a high-priced
> policy, part of it was due to my age/health being at the time
> favorable.
>
> Steve

I had (and have kept, but for not much longer) a very good policy.
Silly me. I thought I was doing myself a favor as I got older. :-(

--
Jean B.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Steve Pope wrote:
> Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>
>>> if you have cataract surgery and don't have the implants, you will be
>>> totally blind, because the lens in your eye is removed.
>
>
>> Of course. No one is proposing that.
>
> I bet you can find a health insurer whose policy makes you
> pay extra for the implants.
>
> Steve

That would be ridiculous--which doesn't mean you are not correct.

--
Jean B.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:14:37 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> What will they use if one eye needs it?

If one eye needs it you get mono-vision and choose between near or
far. If both eyes need it, you have a choice of two out of three:
near, far, inbetween. I would have gone for near and far and worn
glasses at the computer.

Frankly, I don't think you'd put off cataract surgery unless you're
scared of the procedure. Most people these days know someone who has
gone through it recently and understand it's not a big deal anymore.
You don't have to be blind or even near blind to have the surgery. It
only needs to impair your vision (which they measure when you read the
eye chart) and you need to be bothered enough by it to request
surgery.

> This may be a good argument for postponing surgery until the
> second eye is nearly ready? (If possible.)

Cataracts are not that predictable. Eye care professionals will not
guess in terms of years or months how long the second eye may take to
be operable.

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:20:04 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> I will say that I suspect my glasses may have been slightly "off"
> somehow. At any rate, I won't do that again (ca $700 bucks, but
> the frames are salvageable.) I also would, as a result, NEVER
> consider such lenses in conjunction with cataract surgery, so
> perhaps this was a valuable learning experience for me.

Wondering why you didn't follow through and have the prescription
rechecked? All of that is free no matter who is at fault. I think my
optometrist screwed up and wrote a left eye prescription for the right
eye. The vendor has recalibrated where I should be seeing through the
lens and the new pair is free. They said that if I still have a
problem and it turns out that the prescription was incorrect, it's
still free!

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:23:33 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> Steve B wrote:
> > "Jean B." > wrote
> >
> >> No COBRA? I kept my health insurance through COBRA and have kept it ever
> >> since. I won't be able to afford it indefinitely. You wouldn't believe
> >> my premiums.
> >> Jean B.
> >
> > I know. It's ridiculous, isn't it? It's $291 a month for health, dental,
> > and vision for me and my wife!
> >
> > Steve, ducking and running from INCOMING!
> >
> >
> You don't want to know what I pay for myself only. (If you do, it
> will be sent privately.) Let's just say I would be deliriously
> happy to pay that amount. Gee, mine also doesn't include dental
> or optical care.

I think he meant ridiculously inexpensive. Must work for the
gub'ment. Those people have cornered the market on low cost Cadillac
health care plans. I know because I read it here.

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:07:41 -0500, blake murphy
> wrote:

> the first pair of pregressives i had i could not get used to. i'd look
> down at my feet and they looked like they belonged to someone else. this
> is no longer a problem.

Your progressives sound like most of the new glasses I got as a
teenager. The ground always looked like it was closer than it turned
out to be and I had to be very careful on stairs for a few days.

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"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:20:04 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> I also would, as a result, NEVER consider such lenses in conjunction
>>> with cataract surgery, so perhaps this was a valuable learning
>>> experience for me.
>>
>> I just went through that. You won't even have an option unless both
>> eyes need surgery.
>>
>
> What will they use if one eye needs it? This may be a good argument for
> postponing surgery until the second eye is nearly ready? (If possible.)

Shheeesh, you would have to be willing to wait until you are effectively
blind in both eyes???
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"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >, "Jean B." >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Progressive lenses:
>>
>>>> It took me 2 weeks to adapt, just like the MD told me they would. I
>>>> did not go to an Optometrist. My insurance paid better for a full eye
>>>> exam from a local MD eye doctor. I'd known Dr. Way for years so
>>>> trusted him.
>>>>
>>>> They have worked out well!
>>>>
>>>> My personal opinion (and ymmv) is that adapting to them can be somewhat
>>>> of a matter of being willing to put up with the temporary
>>>> inconvenience.
>>>> But, whatever works for you of course! <g> I really, really like them!
>>> I think whether or not one is pleased with them also depends on what one
>>> tends to do with one's eyes!
>>>
>>> I will say that I suspect my glasses may have been slightly "off"
>>> somehow. At any rate, I won't do that again (ca $700 bucks, but the
>>> frames are salvageable.) I also would, as a result, NEVER consider such
>>> lenses in conjunction with cataract surgery, so perhaps this was a
>>> valuable learning experience for me.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean B.
>>
>> Ok, granted, I've not had cataract surgery... :-)
>>
>> I think everybody has to do what works for them!
>>
>> And that actually includes recipes (to bring it kicking and screaming
>> back on topic <g>)
>
> recipes?! gasp! We were speaking of eyes, so does that segue back into
> pearl tapioca?

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:47:59 -0800, Steve B wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote
>>
>>> I got my progressive lenses about 2 or 3 years ago. They are wonderful
>>> but yeah, I do need a neck massage now and then. :-)
>>> --
>>> Peace! Om
>>
>> I like progressives, and have a pair coming in about a week for times
>> when I
>> can't wear contacts. I have worn them for about five years now. I don't
>> see how anyone can wear anything but the no lines.
>>
>> Steve
>
> the first pair of pregressives i had i could not get used to. i'd look
> down at my feet and they looked like they belonged to someone else. this
> is no longer a problem.

I have progressives. It might sound daft after the surgery, but you have to
remember that your lens (implant) does not correct itself for distance. It
is static.

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In article >, "Jean B." >
wrote:

> > And that actually includes recipes (to bring it kicking and screaming
> > back on topic <g>)
>
> recipes?! gasp! We were speaking of eyes, so does that segue
> back into pearl tapioca?
>
> --
> Jean B.

Either that or this: <eg>

<http://tinyurl.com/yzrtjzj>
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wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >, "Jean B." >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >>> I will, thanks! Dr. Way told me that my eyes would change about every 4
> >>> years for awhile, then they would stabilize and I've been noting a
> >>> change now. I think it's been about 3 years.
> >>>
> >>> My problem is that I currently have no health insurance and am pinching
> >>> pennies until I get a new job... so I just have to put up with it.
> >>>
> >>> I'll try then. Insurance benefits at a new job do not kick in for 90
> >>> days, typically.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again. :-)
> >> No COBRA? I kept my health insurance through COBRA and have kept
> >> it ever since. I won't be able to afford it indefinitely. You
> >> wouldn't believe my premiums.
> >
> > I can't afford the premiums.
>
> Yes, that IS a problem. :-(

I'll survive until I get a new job...
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"Jean B." > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > Thanks hon'. I appreciate that! I understand what is involved, I'm
> > just not proficient at it without extra training and I need her to
> > understand that I'm willing to undergo re-training! There may be
> > candidates that know this stuff better than I do. :-(
> >
>
> Oh, I understand that altogether too well. You may also be up
> against people who lie about what they can and will do.

I won't! Blood Bank is the one area of the laboratory where a single
person can literally kill a patient if they screw up. That thought
haunts me ever single time I even do a measly type and screen!
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"Ophelia" > wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:47:59 -0800, Steve B wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" > wrote
> >>
> >>> I got my progressive lenses about 2 or 3 years ago. They are wonderful
> >>> but yeah, I do need a neck massage now and then. :-)
> >>> --
> >>> Peace! Om
> >>
> >> I like progressives, and have a pair coming in about a week for times
> >> when I
> >> can't wear contacts. I have worn them for about five years now. I don't
> >> see how anyone can wear anything but the no lines.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >
> > the first pair of pregressives i had i could not get used to. i'd look
> > down at my feet and they looked like they belonged to someone else. this
> > is no longer a problem.
>
> I have progressives. It might sound daft after the surgery, but you have to
> remember that your lens (implant) does not correct itself for distance. It
> is static.
>
> --

That is an excellent point. I wish my dad would realize that!
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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:20:04 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
> > I also would, as a result, NEVER
> > consider such lenses in conjunction with cataract surgery, so
> > perhaps this was a valuable learning experience for me.
>
> I just went through that. You won't even have an option unless both
> eyes need surgery.

It's pretty complicated, and depends on a lot of factors, some dependent
on particular circumstances. There's no "one size fits all" advice,
even if personal preference didn't enter in, which of course it does.
People discuss this kind of thing on:

sci.med.vision

not constantly, but every month or so.

--
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Petaluma, California USA

In article >, "Jean B." >
wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:20:04 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
> >
> >> I also would, as a result, NEVER
> >> consider such lenses in conjunction with cataract surgery, so
> >> perhaps this was a valuable learning experience for me.
> >
> > I just went through that. You won't even have an option unless both
> > eyes need surgery.
> >
>
> What will they use if one eye needs it? This may be a good
> argument for postponing surgery until the second eye is nearly
> ready? (If possible.)

I had my cataract surgeries five years apart. For those five years, I
was completely dependent on contact lenses. With glasses, I saw double
until I got used to them, which took about three years.

There are actually a whole lot of options, quite overwhelming, really.
But once the surgery is done, you've lost half of them. If you don't
completely understand and plan, the doctor will simply decide for you,
based on what is best for most people. Some people have regrets later,
when they discover that they had other options at one time, but no
longer have them. Most people are just as happy to let the doctor
decide.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:


> > In article >, "Jean B." >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Progressive lenses:

> >> I will say that I suspect my glasses may have been slightly "off"
> >> somehow. At any rate, I won't do that again (ca $700 bucks, but
> >> the frames are salvageable.) I also would, as a result, NEVER
> >> consider such lenses in conjunction with cataract surgery, so
> >> perhaps this was a valuable learning experience for me.

Most people find that the need for some kind of solution, including
multifocal lenses, increases after cataract surgery.

> if you have cataract surgery and don't have the implants, you will be
> totally blind, because the lens in your eye is removed.

That's a bit simplistic, but unless somebody has some medical reason for
not getting implants, I can't imagine why they wouldn't. It's all one
surgical procedure (take out the old, and replace it with the new). The
whole surgery takes a matter of minutes. I think my last cataract
surgery was less than two hours from checkin to checkout. It was done
in the eye clinic, not the hospital, although it was a sterile operating
room.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Jean B. > wrote:
>
> >Ophelia wrote:
>
> >> if you have cataract surgery and don't have the implants, you will be
> >> totally blind, because the lens in your eye is removed.
>
>
> >Of course. No one is proposing that.
>
> I bet you can find a health insurer whose policy makes you
> pay extra for the implants.

I strongly doubt that, but it's pure conjecture on both our parts.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

sf wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:14:37 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> What will they use if one eye needs it?
>
> If one eye needs it you get mono-vision and choose between near or
> far. If both eyes need it, you have a choice of two out of three:
> near, far, inbetween. I would have gone for near and far and worn
> glasses at the computer.
>
> Frankly, I don't think you'd put off cataract surgery unless you're
> scared of the procedure. Most people these days know someone who has
> gone through it recently and understand it's not a big deal anymore.
> You don't have to be blind or even near blind to have the surgery. It
> only needs to impair your vision (which they measure when you read the
> eye chart) and you need to be bothered enough by it to request
> surgery.
>
>> This may be a good argument for postponing surgery until the
>> second eye is nearly ready? (If possible.)
>
> Cataracts are not that predictable. Eye care professionals will not
> guess in terms of years or months how long the second eye may take to
> be operable.
>

Oh, that choice between near and far is okay. I need to have an
eye exam. Last time I was told I was heading toward cataracts.
Pre-cataract, with something discernible. So, I expect that there
has been some progression.

Several friends have had that surgery, so I don't find the
prospect frightening. I am sure when the time comes, I may work
up some level of anxiety nonetheless though.

--
Jean B.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

sf wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:20:04 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> I will say that I suspect my glasses may have been slightly "off"
>> somehow. At any rate, I won't do that again (ca $700 bucks, but
>> the frames are salvageable.) I also would, as a result, NEVER
>> consider such lenses in conjunction with cataract surgery, so
>> perhaps this was a valuable learning experience for me.
>
> Wondering why you didn't follow through and have the prescription
> rechecked? All of that is free no matter who is at fault. I think my
> optometrist screwed up and wrote a left eye prescription for the right
> eye. The vendor has recalibrated where I should be seeing through the
> lens and the new pair is free. They said that if I still have a
> problem and it turns out that the prescription was incorrect, it's
> still free!
>

Ah, yes. I did indeed have a period in which I could have done
that, and the optician is so nice that he probably would have done
something even after that period expired. BUT I had something
intense going on then (I don't even remember what it was at this
point), and I FORGOT! :-(

--
Jean B.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Omelet wrote:

> In article >, "Jean B." >
> wrote:
>> recipes?! gasp! We were speaking of eyes, so does that segue
>> back into pearl tapioca?

>
> Either that or this: <eg>
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/yzrtjzj>

Uh, I'll pass.

--
Jean B.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Omelet wrote:
> In article >, "Jean B." >
> wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> In article >, "Jean B." >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will, thanks! Dr. Way told me that my eyes would change about every 4
>>>>> years for awhile, then they would stabilize and I've been noting a
>>>>> change now. I think it's been about 3 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> My problem is that I currently have no health insurance and am pinching
>>>>> pennies until I get a new job... so I just have to put up with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try then. Insurance benefits at a new job do not kick in for 90
>>>>> days, typically.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again. :-)
>>>> No COBRA? I kept my health insurance through COBRA and have kept
>>>> it ever since. I won't be able to afford it indefinitely. You
>>>> wouldn't believe my premiums.
>>> I can't afford the premiums.
>> Yes, that IS a problem. :-(
>
> I'll survive until I get a new job...

No choice there. I wish you luck with your interview, Om.

--
Jean B.

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

[snipped attribution]

> > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:48:59 -0600, Omelet >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >In article >,
> > > sf > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:15:28 -0600, Omelet >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Imho, the cost of frames is assinine!
> > >>
> > >> Over what amount is too much?
> > >
> > >Well, I paid $90.00 for these, and I really do like them.
> > >I'd like to not pay over $50.00 if I had a choice. I'd rather not wear
> > >ugly ass frames!
> >
> > $90 won't buy quality frames.
>
> BS. Frames are over-priced.

> > High quality frames run about $200.
>
> Why?

Fashion, mostly. There's also a lot of labor involved in the custom
fitting.


I buy my glasses at Costco, and not at the optical shop either. There
is a display over by the books. Regular price is US$18.99 for three
pairs. Most have spring hinges and aspheric lenses.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >, "Jean B." >
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:20:04 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also would, as a result, NEVER
>>>> consider such lenses in conjunction with cataract surgery, so
>>>> perhaps this was a valuable learning experience for me.
>>> I just went through that. You won't even have an option unless both
>>> eyes need surgery.
>>>
>> What will they use if one eye needs it? This may be a good
>> argument for postponing surgery until the second eye is nearly
>> ready? (If possible.)
>
> I had my cataract surgeries five years apart. For those five years, I
> was completely dependent on contact lenses. With glasses, I saw double
> until I got used to them, which took about three years.
>
> There are actually a whole lot of options, quite overwhelming, really.
> But once the surgery is done, you've lost half of them. If you don't
> completely understand and plan, the doctor will simply decide for you,
> based on what is best for most people. Some people have regrets later,
> when they discover that they had other options at one time, but no
> longer have them. Most people are just as happy to let the doctor
> decide.
>

Eeek! I haven't explored this yet, since I am not facing surgery
in the near future. When that time approaches, I am sure I will
do much research!

--
Jean B.