MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
group of pediatricians in the United States is
pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
dogs and candies, along with new warning labels
placed on food packaging, to help curb sometimes
fatal incidents of child choking.

"We know what shape, sizes and consistencies pose
the greatest risk for choking in children and
whenever possible food manufacturers should design
foods to avoid those characteristics, or redesign
existing foods when possible, to change those
characteristics to reduce the choking risk," said
Dr. Gary Smith, immediate-past chairman of the
American Academy of Pediatrics' Committee on
Injury, Violence and Poison Prevention and lead
author of the organization's new policy statement
on preventing choking.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20100222...bkidsc hoking


Okay, how practical is a redesign of the hot dog? How important is it
that anybody who takes a big bite out of a hot dog dripping with chili
looks like a shameless whore while doing it?

Maybe I've been getting the wrong hot dog buns, but when I pull a bun
apart to drop a hot dog into it, the connecting bread between the two
halves is often so thin that it won't hold together, so I end up with a
weenie rolling around on a plate between two pieces of bread. I think I
should invest in some special "hot dog dishes" designed to support the two
sides of the hot dog without letting the assembly fall apart. Same for
tacos... use an eating dish that keeps your tacos upright until you're
ready to pick one up.

Well, anyway, would you be disappointed by, say, an 8" diameter hot dog
that you could slice and instead of making a chili dog, you simply make a
burger-shaped chili dog and put your chili, onions, mustard, cheese, and
whatever on it, then eat it like a hamburger? It should taste the same.
The only problem I have with it is the thing with rodents. I've heard of
people finding rat skeletons in those really big jars of peanut butter.
What if you cut into a hot dog and find a rat skeleton in that. At least
with small, regular-sized hot dogs, there's not enough room for a rat
skeleton.

What do you think? Redesign the hot dog? Or should parents take
responsibility for teaching their kids it's not nice to try to deepthroat
their cheese coney when they go to the Sonic?

Damaeus

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:22:59 -0500, Damaeus
> wrote:

> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
> group of pediatricians in the United States is
> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
> dogs and candies, along with new warning labels
> placed on food packaging, to help curb sometimes
> fatal incidents of child choking.
>
> "We know what shape, sizes and consistencies pose
> the greatest risk for choking in children and
> whenever possible food manufacturers should design
> foods to avoid those characteristics, or redesign
> existing foods when possible, to change those
> characteristics to reduce the choking risk," said
> Dr. Gary Smith, immediate-past chairman of the
> American Academy of Pediatrics' Committee on
> Injury, Violence and Poison Prevention and lead
> author of the organization's new policy statement
> on preventing choking.
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20100222...bkidsc hoking
>
>
>Okay, how practical is a redesign of the hot dog?
>
>Maybe I've been getting the wrong hot dog buns, but when I pull a bun
>apart to

Let's not go there...

>Well, anyway, would you be disappointed by, say, an 8" diameter hot dog
>that you could slice and instead of making a chili dog, you simply make a
>burger-shaped chili dog and put your chili, onions, mustard, cheese, and
>whatever on it, then eat it like a hamburger? It should taste the same.
>
>What do you think? Redesign the hot dog?

Geeze, where do these loonys come from, next thing everyone will have
to go back to nursing, no one ever choked on a tit. But I don't wanna
suck weenie flavored formula... wouldn't that look silly at a ball
game... grown men whipping out their platex nurser six packs. LOL

For years I've said the hot dog should be a Hormel product in a can,
needs no refrigeration, a 12 ounce brick of weenie meat you slice and
heat. Could also stack weenie patties in a tin... munch em right from
the tin or fry till they sizzle on your buns. They already have
weenies in a tin, vienna sausage, but I think they're a stupid
concept, they don't lend themselves to building a sandwich, probably
why they're not a big seller. Of course doing away with the
traditional weenie configuration would likely be considered ***
bashing... how else will young fagelehs learn proper technique.

"Damaeus" > wrote in message
...
> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
> group of pediatricians in the United States is
> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
> dogs and candies, along with new warning labels
> placed on food packaging, to help curb sometimes
> fatal incidents of child choking.
snip
problem easily solved. No hot dogs served to anyone under 18
We already card for beer, let's card for hot dogs and candies. It's a
cheaper fix than re-designing a whole industry.
Janet

On 2010-03-15, Damaeus > wrote:
> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
> group of pediatricians in the United States is
> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
> dogs and candies.......

This is waaaay beyond stupid. They gonna demand redesign of the
banana, the almond, the grape? What we need is a redesign of the
medical establishment.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2010-03-15, Damaeus > wrote:
>> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
>> group of pediatricians in the United States is
>> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
>> dogs and candies.......
>
> This is waaaay beyond stupid. They gonna demand redesign of the
> banana, the almond, the grape? What we need is a redesign of the
> medical establishment.
>
> nb

couldn't agree more. The problem is with parents who toss food in the
general direction of their children and go back to
facebook/email/soaps/videogames etc. THAT is why the kids choke. Cut up
the doggies into smaller pieces or if the child is old enough to want to eat
it whole....STAY WITH THE CHILD while they eat. Shouldn't take a rocket
scientist to figure this one out.
-ginny

"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2010-03-15, Damaeus > wrote:
>>> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
>>> group of pediatricians in the United States is
>>> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
>>> dogs and candies.......
>>
>> This is waaaay beyond stupid. They gonna demand redesign of the
>> banana, the almond, the grape? What we need is a redesign of the
>> medical establishment.
>>
>> nb
>
> couldn't agree more. The problem is with parents who toss food in the
> general direction of their children and go back to
> facebook/email/soaps/videogames etc. THAT is why the kids choke. Cut up
> the doggies into smaller pieces or if the child is old enough to want to
> eat it whole....STAY WITH THE CHILD while they eat. Shouldn't take a
> rocket scientist to figure this one out.
> -ginny
>
I'm glad you wrote the above. I had composed something similar and erased
it because it was turning into a rank about irresponsible parenting. If you
don't have the time or patience to take care of children, use a condom or
some other birth control. We don't need more feral children.
Janet

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2010-03-15, Damaeus > wrote:
> > MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
> > group of pediatricians in the United States is
> > pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
> > dogs and candies.......
>
> This is waaaay beyond stupid. They gonna demand redesign of the
> banana, the almond, the grape? What we need is a redesign of the
> medical establishment.

**** that, notbob. Let's just redesign the kids!!!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:22:59 -0500, Damaeus wrote:

> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
> group of pediatricians in the United States is
> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
> dogs and candies, along with new warning labels
> placed on food packaging, to help curb sometimes
> fatal incidents of child choking.

Parents already have a choice with the chape of the hot dogs,. They
can use bologna, or hot dogs. If they're not smart enough to
realize this, then it's eugenics in action.

-sw

Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2010-03-15, Damaeus > wrote:
>>> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
>>> group of pediatricians in the United States is
>>> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
>>> dogs and candies.......
>> This is waaaay beyond stupid. They gonna demand redesign of the
>> banana, the almond, the grape? What we need is a redesign of the
>> medical establishment.
>>
>> nb
>
> couldn't agree more. The problem is with parents who toss food in the
> general direction of their children and go back to
> facebook/email/soaps/videogames etc. THAT is why the kids choke. Cut up
> the doggies into smaller pieces or if the child is old enough to want to eat
> it whole....STAY WITH THE CHILD while they eat. Shouldn't take a rocket
> scientist to figure this one out.
> -ginny
>
>


I agree, Ginny, but then it's the PARENTS' fault/responsibility, not the
medical establishment.

gloria p

On 3/15/2010 12:44 PM, Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2010-03-15, > wrote:
>>> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
>>> group of pediatricians in the United States is
>>> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
>>> dogs and candies.......
>>
>> This is waaaay beyond stupid. They gonna demand redesign of the
>> banana, the almond, the grape? What we need is a redesign of the
>> medical establishment.
>>
>> nb
>
> couldn't agree more. The problem is with parents who toss food in the
> general direction of their children and go back to
> facebook/email/soaps/videogames etc. THAT is why the kids choke. Cut up
> the doggies into smaller pieces or if the child is old enough to want to eat
> it whole....STAY WITH THE CHILD while they eat. Shouldn't take a rocket
> scientist to figure this one out.

The gene pool is better off without anyone who can't a hot dog without
choking himself to death anyway.

Doctor Gary Smith needs to be sent to Darfur to get some perspective.

"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2010-03-15, Damaeus > wrote:
>>> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
>>> group of pediatricians in the United States is
>>> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
>>> dogs and candies.......
>>
>> This is waaaay beyond stupid. They gonna demand redesign of the
>> banana, the almond, the grape? What we need is a redesign of the
>> medical establishment.
>>
>> nb
>
> couldn't agree more. The problem is with parents who toss food in the
> general direction of their children and go back to
> facebook/email/soaps/videogames etc. THAT is why the kids choke. Cut up
> the doggies into smaller pieces or if the child is old enough to want to
> eat it whole....STAY WITH THE CHILD while they eat. Shouldn't take a
> rocket scientist to figure this one out.
> -ginny
>
>
I babysit the grandbabies 2-3 days a week. The older of the two I watch is
just turning 2. Picky eater, but Gramma is trying to change that. Lucas
has recently discovered hot dogs and ramen noodles. The hot dogs he wants
in 'hot dog' shape. Holding it in his hot little hand and knawing off the
top. I sit with him and talk to him, encouraging little bites and
chewing......NEVER is he left alone with the hot dog. The only time he
choked up on something was when he shoved half the bowl of ramen in his
mouth. All it took was one time, he was snatched up, hung upside down and
back thumped until the offending noodles were lodged across the kitchen.
Needless to say, Lucas chews his food now. Was it the noodles' fault? No,
just that too much was shoved into too little a space. Blockage dislodged,
back to lunch. My question is this, what would have happened if he was left
to his own devices? If you give your child ANYTHING to eat and leave him/her
alone and they choke......it's YOUR fault. Not the food item. YOURS.
-ginny

(Gramma is making homemade mac and cheese tonight for Little Man's lunch
tomorrow.....we (I mean I) are teaching him that the box stuff is yuck but
Gramma's is good eats).

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:42:23 -0400, "Virginia Tadrzynski"
> wrote:

> (Gramma is making homemade mac and cheese tonight for Little Man's lunch
> tomorrow.....we (I mean I) are teaching him that the box stuff is yuck but
> Gramma's is good eats).

My grandson likes the boxed stuff (I like it too), but grandma's is
*much* better. It's the "love".

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

> The only problem I have with it is the thing with rodents. *I've heard of
> people finding rat skeletons in those really big jars of peanut butter.
> What if you cut into a hot dog and find a rat skeleton in that. *At least
> with small, regular-sized hot dogs, there's not enough room for a rat
> skeleton.

> Damaeus

Well, not just peanut butter....

bread
http://www.animalcontrol.com.au/phot...ery-loaf-!.jpg

In news:rec.food.cooking, brooklyn1 > posted on
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:07:18 -0400 the following:

> For years I've said the hot dog should be a Hormel product in a can,
> needs no refrigeration, a 12 ounce brick of weenie meat you slice and
> heat. Could also stack weenie patties in a tin... munch em right from
> the tin or fry till they sizzle on your buns. They already have
> weenies in a tin, vienna sausage, but I think they're a stupid
> concept, they don't lend themselves to building a sandwich, probably
> why they're not a big seller.

I hate vienna sausages. I called them "Veenie Weenies" when I was a kid.
I ate them as a very young kid (5 and under), but at that point, I had not
experienced a lot of food that was better. What ruined vienna sausages
for me was when my dad came in and took one out of my can to eat, and when
I looked back down, they were all covered with these strange seeds. They
all looked like lemon or orange seeds.

The only restaurants I remember my parents ever taking us out to was
catfish and Mexican restaurants, mostly Cypress Inn (now burned down) near
Bossier City, LA, and El Chico in Bossier City right off I-20....and
occasionally Sambo's, or The Kettle if it was late at night. Other than
that, it was McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Kentucky Fried Chicken,
Pizza Hut, etc...

My first experience eating elsewhere was going to Bennigan's in Dallas on
a high school field trip (9th or 10th grade, I think) to the Dallas Museum
of Art. After going to the museum, we stopped off at the Galleria. On
the bottom floor near the ice skating rink was a Bennigan's. At that
time, the food was amazingly good. I had the shredded beef burrito with
something they called "Spiced Beans and Rice", which I also enjoyed.

Damaeus

In news:rec.food.cooking, ImStillMags > posted on
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:24:27 -0700 (PDT) the following:

> http://www.animalcontrol.com.au/phot...ery-loaf-!.jpg

Nasty!!!

Damaeus

"Damaeus" > wrote in message
...
> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
> group of pediatricians in the United States is
> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
> dogs and candies, along with new warning labels
> placed on food packaging, to help curb sometimes
> fatal incidents of child choking.
>
> "We know what shape, sizes and consistencies pose
> the greatest risk for choking in children and
> whenever possible food manufacturers should design
> foods to avoid those characteristics, or redesign
> existing foods when possible, to change those
> characteristics to reduce the choking risk," said
> Dr. Gary Smith, immediate-past chairman of the
> American Academy of Pediatrics' Committee on
> Injury, Violence and Poison Prevention and lead
> author of the organization's new policy statement
> on preventing choking.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20100222...bkidsc hoking
>
>
> Okay, how practical is a redesign of the hot dog? How important is it
> that anybody who takes a big bite out of a hot dog dripping with chili
> looks like a shameless whore while doing it?
>
> Maybe I've been getting the wrong hot dog buns, but when I pull a bun
> apart to drop a hot dog into it, the connecting bread between the two
> halves is often so thin that it won't hold together, so I end up with a
> weenie rolling around on a plate between two pieces of bread. I think I
> should invest in some special "hot dog dishes" designed to support the two
> sides of the hot dog without letting the assembly fall apart. Same for
> tacos... use an eating dish that keeps your tacos upright until you're
> ready to pick one up.
>
> Well, anyway, would you be disappointed by, say, an 8" diameter hot dog
> that you could slice and instead of making a chili dog, you simply make a
> burger-shaped chili dog and put your chili, onions, mustard, cheese, and
> whatever on it, then eat it like a hamburger? It should taste the same.
> The only problem I have with it is the thing with rodents. I've heard of
> people finding rat skeletons in those really big jars of peanut butter.
> What if you cut into a hot dog and find a rat skeleton in that. At least
> with small, regular-sized hot dogs, there's not enough room for a rat
> skeleton.
>
> What do you think? Redesign the hot dog? Or should parents take
> responsibility for teaching their kids it's not nice to try to deepthroat
> their cheese coney when they go to the Sonic?
>
> Damaeus

Don't they have anything better to do Like treat the uninsured Kids?

Maybe there should be mandatory classes for prospective parents on cutting
up your kids hot dogs.

And they wonder why this nation is going to the DOGS!

;-)


--
Dimitri

Corned beef

http://kitchenguide.wordpress.com.

"Damaeus" > wrote in message
...

What do you think? Redesign the hot dog? Or should parents take
> responsibility for teaching their kids it's not nice to try to deepthroat
> their cheese coney when they go to the Sonic?
>
> Damaeus

They just need to add a warning label to hot dog packages telling moron
parents to cut them lengthwise. I knew that over 30 years ago. Cut grapes
and cherry tomatoes in half lengthwise too.

Ms P

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:08:07 -0500, "Ms P" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Damaeus" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> What do you think? Redesign the hot dog? Or should parents take
>> responsibility for teaching their kids it's not nice to try to deepthroat
>> their cheese coney when they go to the Sonic?
>>
>> Damaeus
>
>They just need to add a warning label to hot dog packages telling moron
>parents to cut them lengthwise. I knew that over 30 years ago. Cut grapes
>and cherry tomatoes in half lengthwise too.

They cut up the tube steak at women's prisons... true... has nothing
to do with choking.

On 2010-03-16, brooklyn1 > wrote:

> They cut up the tube steak at women's prisons... true... has nothing
> to do with choking.

.... and no corn-on-the-cob, too, I suppose. GTFOH!!

nb

Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2010-03-15, Damaeus > wrote:
>>> MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading
>>> group of pediatricians in the United States is
>>> pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot
>>> dogs and candies.......
>> This is waaaay beyond stupid. They gonna demand redesign of the
>> banana, the almond, the grape? What we need is a redesign of the
>> medical establishment.
>>
>> nb
>
> couldn't agree more. The problem is with parents who toss food in the
> general direction of their children and go back to
> facebook/email/soaps/videogames etc. THAT is why the kids choke. Cut up
> the doggies into smaller pieces or if the child is old enough to want to eat
> it whole....STAY WITH THE CHILD while they eat. Shouldn't take a rocket
> scientist to figure this one out.
> -ginny
>
>
I agree. What ever happened to parental responsibility?

--
Jean B.