I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum "pot belly"
glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because I think they are
beautiful. You all posted many comments, some quite helpful, some asinine as
usual. (You know who you are. Weiners.)

They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum pans can,
can take high temperatures with no warping, and the "bellied" sides do not
hamper pouring at all. (They actually have lips on either side designed for
pouring.) The glass lids are just the right weight, they and the pots
themselves are the perfect weight, heavy enough to feel like decent quality,
but not stupid heavy like Calphalon. Best of all they clean up easily and I
can use any kind of utensils and they don't scratch.

This is them, now cheaper, of course.

http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub

On Mar 18, 1:34*pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum "pot belly"
> glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because I think they are
> beautiful. You all posted many comments, some quite helpful, some asinine as
> usual. (You know who you are. Weiners.)
>
> They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum pans can,
> can take high temperatures with no warping, and the "bellied" sides do not
> hamper pouring at all. (They actually have lips on either side designed for
> pouring.) The glass lids are just the right weight, they and the pots
> themselves are the perfect weight, heavy enough to feel like decent quality,
> but not stupid heavy like Calphalon. Best of all they clean up easily and I
> can use any kind of utensils and they don't scratch.
>
> This is them, now cheaper, of course.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub

I'm glad for you that your purchased worked out so well. They are
handsome. I like the shape, they remind me of
old England for some reason.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
> I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum "pot belly"
> glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because I think they are
> beautiful. You all posted many comments, some quite helpful, some asinine
> as usual. (You know who you are. Weiners.)
>
> They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum pans can,
> can take high temperatures with no warping, and the "bellied" sides do not
> hamper pouring at all. (They actually have lips on either side designed
> for pouring.) The glass lids are just the right weight, they and the pots
> themselves are the perfect weight, heavy enough to feel like decent
> quality, but not stupid heavy like Calphalon. Best of all they clean up
> easily and I can use any kind of utensils and they don't scratch.
>
> This is them, now cheaper, of course.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub

Oh purty!!!!

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On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:34:56 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum "pot belly"
> glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because I think they are
> beautiful. You all posted many comments, some quite helpful, some asinine as
> usual. (You know who you are. Weiners.)
>
> They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum pans can,
> can take high temperatures with no warping, and the "bellied" sides do not
> hamper pouring at all. (They actually have lips on either side designed for
> pouring.) The glass lids are just the right weight, they and the pots
> themselves are the perfect weight, heavy enough to feel like decent quality,
> but not stupid heavy like Calphalon. Best of all they clean up easily and I
> can use any kind of utensils and they don't scratch.
>
> This is them, now cheaper, of course.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub
>
I'm glad to hear they are working out for you! I'm starting to think
about replacing my (mumble mumble years) old pieces of Calpholon
cookware. The anodizing appears to be worn off on the inside bottom
and I'm not sure how to get them recoated. The problem is they are so
thick and reliable (I have to work hard to burn anything), I would
hate to replace them with anything thinner.

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu 18 Mar 2010 04:34:56p, cybercat wrote in rec.food.cooking
> >:
>
>> I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum
>> "pot belly" glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because
>> I think they are beautiful. You all posted many comments, some
>> quite helpful, some asinine as usual. (You know who you are.
>> Weiners.)
>>
>> They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum
>> pans can, can take high temperatures with no warping, and the
>> "bellied" sides do not hamper pouring at all. (They actually
>> have lips on either side designed for pouring.) The glass lids
>> are just the right weight, they and the pots themselves are the
>> perfect weight, heavy enough to feel like decent quality, but
>> not stupid heavy like Calphalon. Best of all they clean up
>> easily and I can use any kind of utensils and they don't
>> scratch.
>>
>> This is them, now cheaper, of course.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub
>>
>>
>>
>
> Woohoo! I love whirlwind romances. From seduced to in love is
> quite a big step! You be careful missy!

I forgot I used "seduced" the first time! Well, anyway, I never let them in
the bedroom with me. How is the hernia, I missed the followups ...

"sf" > wrote
>>
> I'm glad to hear they are working out for you! I'm starting to think
> about replacing my (mumble mumble years) old pieces of Calpholon
> cookware. The anodizing appears to be worn off on the inside bottom
> and I'm not sure how to get them recoated. The problem is they are so
> thick and reliable (I have to work hard to burn anything), I would
> hate to replace them with anything thinner.
>

I still like and use my Calphalon. It makes me feel tough. Also, the
omelet pan make the best omelets ever. My style. What I love it shoving the
whole thing in the oven (handle sticking out) to brown.

"ImStillMags" > wrote in message
...
On Mar 18, 1:34 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum "pot belly"
> glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because I think they are
> beautiful. You all posted many comments, some quite helpful, some asinine
> as
> usual. (You know who you are. Weiners.)
>
> They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum pans can,
> can take high temperatures with no warping, and the "bellied" sides do not
> hamper pouring at all. (They actually have lips on either side designed
> for
> pouring.) The glass lids are just the right weight, they and the pots
> themselves are the perfect weight, heavy enough to feel like decent
> quality,
> but not stupid heavy like Calphalon. Best of all they clean up easily and
> I
> can use any kind of utensils and they don't scratch.
>
> This is them, now cheaper, of course.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub

>I'm glad for you that your purchased worked out so well. They are
>handsome. I like the shape, they remind me of
>old England for some reason.

Ah, so you kind of see the pretty I saw. I think it is a combination of
the shape, the heft, and the shine. Who knows why things appeal to us. I am
just so glad they are actually nice to use! haha

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum "pot belly"
>> glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because I think they are
>> beautiful. You all posted many comments, some quite helpful, some asinine
>> as usual. (You know who you are. Weiners.)
>>
>> They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum pans
>> can, can take high temperatures with no warping, and the "bellied" sides
>> do not hamper pouring at all. (They actually have lips on either side
>> designed for pouring.) The glass lids are just the right weight, they and
>> the pots themselves are the perfect weight, heavy enough to feel like
>> decent quality, but not stupid heavy like Calphalon. Best of all they
>> clean up easily and I can use any kind of utensils and they don't
>> scratch.
>>
>> This is them, now cheaper, of course.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub
>
> Oh purty!!!!
>
Miss O! I am so glad you like them. I have missed you. We will have to catch
up.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:33:21 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> I still like and use my Calphalon. It makes me feel tough. Also, the
> omelet pan make the best omelets ever. My style. What I love it shoving the
> whole thing in the oven (handle sticking out) to brown.
>
if I had the saute pan of my set, the handle could go inside and there
would be no problem.... but I don't finish omelets in the oven.
That's just another one of those things I like about Calpholon.

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In news:rec.food.cooking, "cybercat" > posted on Thu,
18 Mar 2010 16:34:56 -0400 the following:

> They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum pans
> can, can take high temperatures with no warping, and the "bellied" sides
> do not hamper pouring at all. (They actually have lips on either side
> designed for pouring.) The glass lids are just the right weight, they
> and the pots themselves are the perfect weight, heavy enough to feel
> like decent quality, but not stupid heavy like Calphalon.

How heavy is stupid heavy? My cast iron skillet is pretty heavy, and if
it were not for the fact that someone took the hot skillet and warped it
under cold water, I would enjoy its solid heaviness as it sits on the
stovetop without spinning around. Now I have to hold it still with a
potholder while I stir things around in it.

I like heavy cookware.

Damaeus

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum "pot belly"
>>> glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because I think they are
>>> beautiful. You all posted many comments, some quite helpful, some
>>> asinine as usual. (You know who you are. Weiners.)
>>>
>>> They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum pans
>>> can, can take high temperatures with no warping, and the "bellied" sides
>>> do not hamper pouring at all. (They actually have lips on either side
>>> designed for pouring.) The glass lids are just the right weight, they
>>> and the pots themselves are the perfect weight, heavy enough to feel
>>> like decent quality, but not stupid heavy like Calphalon. Best of all
>>> they clean up easily and I can use any kind of utensils and they don't
>>> scratch.
>>>
>>> This is them, now cheaper, of course.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub
>>
>> Oh purty!!!!
>>
> Miss O! I am so glad you like them. I have missed you. We will have to
> catch up.

Good idea)
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cybercat > wrote:
> I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum "pot belly"
> glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because I think they are

> This is them, now cheaper, of course.

> http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub

According to that url these are stainless steel with aluminum
encapsulated in the bottom. So, not really aluminum pots.

They do look nice, and if you like them that's all that counts.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

> wrote in message ...
> cybercat > wrote:
>> I posted some weeks back about buying some polished aluminum "pot belly"
>> glass-topped, reinforced bottomed pots, just because I think they are
>
>> This is them, now cheaper, of course.
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ykc9oub
>
> According to that url these are stainless steel with aluminum
> encapsulated in the bottom. So, not really aluminum pots.
>
> They do look nice, and if you like them that's all that counts.
>
You know, I meant "stainless steel" even while I was typing "aluminum."

"Damaeus" > wrote in message
...
> In news:rec.food.cooking, "cybercat" > posted on Thu,
> 18 Mar 2010 16:34:56 -0400 the following:
>
>> They work so well, heat evenly, do not stick like cheap aluminum pans
>> can, can take high temperatures with no warping, and the "bellied" sides
>> do not hamper pouring at all. (They actually have lips on either side
>> designed for pouring.) The glass lids are just the right weight, they
>> and the pots themselves are the perfect weight, heavy enough to feel
>> like decent quality, but not stupid heavy like Calphalon.
>
> How heavy is stupid heavy? My cast iron skillet is pretty heavy, and if
> it were not for the fact that someone took the hot skillet and warped it
> under cold water, I would enjoy its solid heaviness as it sits on the
> stovetop without spinning around. Now I have to hold it still with a
> potholder while I stir things around in it.
>
> I like heavy cookware.
>

Stupid heavy, for me, is so heavy that I cannot lift it with one hand and
use the other to scrape stuff out. I also like heavy cookware, but when the
weight keeps me from functioning as I wish to in my kitchen, that would be
stupidheavy.

In news:rec.food.cooking, "cybercat" > posted on Fri,
19 Mar 2010 16:23:08 -0400 the following:

> Stupid heavy, for me, is so heavy that I cannot lift it with one hand and
> use the other to scrape stuff out. I also like heavy cookware, but when the
> weight keeps me from functioning as I wish to in my kitchen, that would be
> stupidheavy.

I understand. When I messed up the nerve in my left shoulder, I lost half
the strength in my left hand, as well as having most of my left arm go
numb. So it got to where I couldn't even comfortably hold a cast iron
skillet anymore with my left hand without feeling like I had already been
holding it up for an hour and half. And if I tried to hold the pot with
my right hand and scrape with my left, I was so uncoordinated as I think
that the nerve damage that caused pain and phantom torture on that arm is
the same damage that may prevent motor signals from reaching that arm and
directing it as necessary. I'm getting to where I'm getting my strength
back and some of the control, but I have to concentrate really hard to get
that arm to do what I want it to. Marijuana use helps actually notice
where my own thinking is affecting my ability to use my own limbs, so as I
focus on relating and analyzing all that as it happens, my brain snaps,
crackles, and feels like it has energy crackling through it, and the way
it feels as a totality inside my head, it's as relieving as taking a big,
heaving shit after being forced to hold it for six or seven hours. Inside
my head, I feel a level of relief that would rhyme with that description,
all while feeling parts of my body actually tingle and vibrate, and relief
pain, all while making my head feel like it's getting a mental enema.

Why that's illegal...I can only guess it's because the people making it
illegal have never tried it for themselves to find out why people are so
interested in it. So the most ignorant among us concerning marijuana are
the ones deciding what the policy should be on it. That is backwards. And
all the while, the people who actually use the stuff say it's harmless.
Who are we going to listen to? The people who use it, or the people who
are too scared to even try it?

Damaeus

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:33:21 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>> I still like and use my Calphalon. It makes me feel tough. Also, the
>> omelet pan make the best omelets ever. My style. What I love it shoving
>> the
>> whole thing in the oven (handle sticking out) to brown.
>>
> if I had the saute pan of my set, the handle could go inside and there
> would be no problem....

ho ho, that is because you are not fortunate enough to thave a 1961
coppertone GE Wall Oven.

Damaeus wrote:
> "cybercat" > posted:
>
>> Stupid heavy, for me, is so heavy that I cannot lift it with one hand and
>> use the other to scrape stuff out. I also like heavy cookware, but when the
>> weight keeps me from functioning as I wish to in my kitchen, that would be
>> stupidheavy.
>
> I understand. When I messed up the nerve in my left shoulder, I lost half
> the strength in my left hand, as well as having most of my left arm go
> numb. So it got to where I couldn't even comfortably hold a cast iron
> skillet anymore with my left hand without feeling like I had already been
> holding it up for an hour and half.

Age effects it to some degree as well. My wife no longer uses Le
Cruesset for brazing because the dutch oven is too heavy once it has
been filled with liquids. After it has enough food in it to feed a
camping horde, I now think that a giant cast iron skillet that spans two
burners should have been made with handles on both sides.

> Why that's illegal...

At least some of it was industrial. The US Constitution is written on
hempen paper and it's still in good shape. Enduring paper is not a
great thing if you happen to be a major stockholder in both newspapers
and forestry companies like Willian Randolph Hearst. On an even longer
time scale the Shroud of Turin is woven of hemp and it still exists all
these centuries later. Enduring cloth is not a great thing if you
happen to have built your wealth from cotton.

At least some of it was bigotry. Mexicans immigrant workers smoked it.

At least some of it was political parallelism. It was banned in the
same generation as alcohol prohibition.

"Damaeus" > wrote
>
> Marijuana use helps actually notice
> where my own thinking is affecting my ability to use my own limbs, so as I
> focus on relating and analyzing all that as it happens, my brain snaps,
> crackles, and feels like it has energy crackling through it, and the way
> it feels as a totality inside my head, it's as relieving as taking a big,
> heaving shit after being forced to hold it for six or seven hours. Inside
> my head, I feel a level of relief that would rhyme with that description,
> all while feeling parts of my body actually tingle and vibrate, and relief
> pain, all while making my head feel like it's getting a mental enema.
>
> Why that's illegal...I can only guess it's because the people making it
> illegal have never tried it for themselves to find out why people are so
> interested in it. So the most ignorant among us concerning marijuana are
> the ones deciding what the policy should be on it. That is backwards. And
> all the while, the people who actually use the stuff say it's harmless.
> Who are we going to listen to? The people who use it, or the people who
> are too scared to even try it?
>
> Damaeus

I think the ones making it illegal have read some of you postings and that
helped them decide.

In news:rec.food.cooking, Doug Freyburger > posted on
Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:56:27 +0000 (UTC) the following:

> Damaeus wrote:
>
> At least some of it was industrial. The US Constitution is written on
> hempen paper and it's still in good shape. Enduring paper is not a
> great thing if you happen to be a major stockholder in both newspapers
> and forestry companies like Willian Randolph Hearst. On an even longer
> time scale the Shroud of Turin is woven of hemp and it still exists all
> these centuries later. Enduring cloth is not a great thing if you
> happen to have built your wealth from cotton.

I never thought of it in terms of cotton wearing out more quickly than
Hemp. And all my life, all I ever wanted was something that would last.

> At least some of it was bigotry. Mexicans immigrant workers smoked it.
>
> At least some of it was political parallelism. It was banned in the
> same generation as alcohol prohibition.

Yeah. When I mention its illegality, I'm down to sarcasm now.

Damaeus

In news:rec.food.cooking, "Ed Pawlowski" > posted on
Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:54:50 -0400 the following:

> "Damaeus" > wrote
>
> > Why that's illegal...I can only guess it's because the people making it
> > illegal have never tried it for themselves to find out why people are so
> > interested in it. So the most ignorant among us concerning marijuana are
> > the ones deciding what the policy should be on it. That is backwards. And
> > all the while, the people who actually use the stuff say it's harmless.
> > Who are we going to listen to? The people who use it, or the people who
> > are too scared to even try it?
>
> I think the ones making it illegal have read some of you postings and that
> helped them decide.

Yes: "I don't believe him, so he's obviously crazy." As if one's views
are infallible at first glance. Their choice to prohibit makes sense
given their foresight.

Damaeus

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri 19 Mar 2010 12:01:50a, cybercat wrote in rec.food.cooking
> >:
>
>> I forgot I used "seduced" the first time! Well, anyway, I never
>> let them in the bedroom with me. How is the hernia, I missed
>> the followups ...
>
> Seduction, love, what's the difference? LOL As for my hernia, I am
> not convinced my Dr diagnosed that correctly. The joint pain has
> eased a bit but the back is still cracking with every step. A hernia
> should have a protrusion, but I don't have that.

Seduction is funner. Go get an ultrasound. And see a chiropractor. They work
for me so they must be good for everyone .... seriously, though. You got
there by overworking, there might be a fix in the way of a spinal adjustment
that relieves pressure on the nerve(s).

"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
...
> Damaeus wrote:
>> "cybercat" > posted:
>>
>>> Stupid heavy, for me, is so heavy that I cannot lift it with one hand
>>> and
>>> use the other to scrape stuff out. I also like heavy cookware, but when
>>> the
>>> weight keeps me from functioning as I wish to in my kitchen, that would
>>> be
>>> stupidheavy.
>>
>> I understand. When I messed up the nerve in my left shoulder, I lost
>> half
>> the strength in my left hand, as well as having most of my left arm go
>> numb. So it got to where I couldn't even comfortably hold a cast iron
>> skillet anymore with my left hand without feeling like I had already been
>> holding it up for an hour and half.
>
> Age effects it to some degree as well. My wife no longer uses Le
> Cruesset for brazing because the dutch oven is too heavy once it has
> been filled with liquids. After it has enough food in it to feed a
> camping horde, I now think that a giant cast iron skillet that spans two
> burners should have been made with handles on both sides.
>
>> Why that's illegal...
>
> At least some of it was industrial. The US Constitution is written on
> hempen paper and it's still in good shape. Enduring paper is not a
> great thing if you happen to be a major stockholder in both newspapers
> and forestry companies like Willian Randolph Hearst. On an even longer
> time scale the Shroud of Turin is woven of hemp and it still exists all
> these centuries later. Enduring cloth is not a great thing if you
> happen to have built your wealth from cotton.
>
> At least some of it was bigotry. Mexicans immigrant workers smoked it.
>
> At least some of it was political parallelism. It was banned in the
> same generation as alcohol prohibition.

If you're gonna hijack my thread, at least wear a ski mask.

In news:rec.food.cooking, "cybercat" > posted on Sat,
20 Mar 2010 13:31:19 -0400 the following:

> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri 19 Mar 2010 12:01:50a, cybercat wrote in rec.food.cooking
> > >:
> >
> >> I forgot I used "seduced" the first time! Well, anyway, I never
> >> let them in the bedroom with me. How is the hernia, I missed
> >> the followups ...
> >
> > Seduction, love, what's the difference? LOL As for my hernia, I am
> > not convinced my Dr diagnosed that correctly. The joint pain has
> > eased a bit but the back is still cracking with every step. A hernia
> > should have a protrusion, but I don't have that.
>
> Seduction is funner. Go get an ultrasound. And see a chiropractor. They work
> for me so they must be good for everyone .... seriously, though. You got
> there by overworking, there might be a fix in the way of a spinal adjustment
> that relieves pressure on the nerve(s).

I let someone convince me to go to a chiropractor for about sixty visits,
I think it was, after I really messed up the nerve under my left shoulder,
to the point where my arm was both numb and feeling like it was on fire at
the same time, and had half its strength. Well, I can't say that the
chiropractor helped me any more than just letting it heal on its own.
There was never a time when I went to the chiropractor that I felt better
after leaving. I always felt exactly the same.

I did enjoy certain things the chiropractor did, but he didn't do this on
every visit. There were times when my neck was a little stiff, and I
liked it when I laid on the table, and he pulled on my head. the feeling
of all the parts of my neck and upper spine stretching out was amazing.

Anyway, while I actually did enjoy having everything popped, it ultimately
wasn't beneficial, I don't think. And besides, I could pop just about
everything he could pop, just by twisting my back. My back pops very
easily.

Damaeus

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Damaeus" > wrote
>>
>> Marijuana use helps actually notice
>> where my own thinking is affecting my ability to use my own limbs, so as
>> I
>> focus on relating and analyzing all that as it happens, my brain snaps,
>> crackles, and feels like it has energy crackling through it, and the way
>> it feels as a totality inside my head, it's as relieving as taking a big,
>> heaving shit after being forced to hold it for six or seven hours.
>> Inside
>> my head, I feel a level of relief that would rhyme with that description,
>> all while feeling parts of my body actually tingle and vibrate, and
>> relief
>> pain, all while making my head feel like it's getting a mental enema.
>>
>> Why that's illegal...I can only guess it's because the people making it
>> illegal have never tried it for themselves to find out why people are so
>> interested in it. So the most ignorant among us concerning marijuana are
>> the ones deciding what the policy should be on it. That is backwards.
>> And
>> all the while, the people who actually use the stuff say it's harmless.
>> Who are we going to listen to? The people who use it, or the people who
>> are too scared to even try it?
>>
>> Damaeus
>
> I think the ones making it illegal have read some of you postings and that
> helped them decide.
>

ED! You suck, haha! It is true though, he does sound stoned in this post.

In news:rec.food.cooking, "cybercat" > posted on Thu,
1 Apr 2010 18:34:24 -0400 the following:

> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Damaeus" > wrote
> >
> > > Why that's illegal...I can only guess it's because the people making
> > > it illegal have never tried it for themselves to find out why people
> > > are so interested in it. So the most ignorant among us concerning
> > > marijuana are the ones deciding what the policy should be on it.
> > > That is backwards. And all the while, the people who actually use
> > > the stuff say it's harmless. Who are we going to listen to? The
> > > people who use it, or the people who are too scared to even try it?
> >
> > I think the ones making it illegal have read some of you postings and
> > that helped them decide.
>
> ED! You suck, haha! It is true though, he does sound stoned in this
> post.

Well, I wasn't. The effects are cumulative, but I want to know what
characteristics a post must have to make it so obvious that the poster of
it is stoned.

Damaeus
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White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986