On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:22:02 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> . Laundering bags creates far more pollution and
>> consumes far more energy than disposables.
>
>They might cause ore pollution and consume more energy if you do a load
>of wash just for the bags. You can toss them into a load of laundry and
>they will only use whatever detergent and water that is already being used.

Normal folks sort laundry... normal folks would save up enough filthy
bags to make a separate load.. may not be many extra loads in a year
but even if every three months that's still the cost of four more
washes. And most folks also use dryers. I have some of those
reusable totes, the only ones worthwhile are those that are specially
insulated for traveling with perishables.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Dimitri wrote:
>> "gloria.p" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>>
>>> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
>> Throw then into the war-sher if you're from the east.
>>
>> Washer in the west.
>
> Hah, I think people in DC area say war-sher. Everyone I know
> save one says washer.
>
> nancy



Like Cuber the island

:-)

Dimitri

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:30:17 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On Mar 20, 8:17*am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>
>> Any suggestions/solutions?
>>
>> gloria p
>
>well, I guess if you put raw meat directly into the bag....
>
>I still use the flimsy plastic bags in the meat and produce department
>to put stuff in. Foods never actually
>come into contact with my cloth grocery bags. Seems like common sense
>to me.

Not really... why do you need a second bag?

Anyway those thin plastic bags often leak, meat juice will go right
through and through your cloth bag too... when I get groceries to my
vehicle anything that can leak goes into one of those large tupperware
containers... very handy leaving in the vehicle at all times, I've had
all sorts of other liquids leak too... you definitely don't want a jar
of pickles leaking in your car. But most groceries don't leak so
ordinary bags from the grocery work fine. I always reuse grocery
bags, I sometimes request paper but mostly I prefer plastic, those
become my garbage bags and doubled collect used cat litter... in fact
I use so many that I buy them in cartons of 1,000.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:16:38 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On Mar 20, 10:56*am, "Giusi" > wrote:
>> "ImStillMags" *ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>> *"gloria.p" > wrote:
>> > I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>
>> >http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>
>> > Any suggestions/solutions?
>>
>> > gloria p
>>
>> well, I guess if you put raw meat directly into the bag....
>>
>> >I still use the flimsy plastic bags in the meat and >produce department to
>> >put stuff in. *Foods never >actually
>> >come into contact with my cloth grocery bags. *Seems >like common sense to
>> >me.
>>
>> So you use as many as twenty little bags to avoid using one big one?
>> Who buys meat that is totally unwrapped? *Even my butcher wraps it in
>> butcher paper and string. *At the supermarkets most of it is in little
>> sealed trays, no?
>
>no, more like three or four of the little flimsy ones per trip.
>Even with the sealed trays you can get leakage. Even with butcher
>paper and string you can get leakage. I don't put vegetables
>straight into the bags either.
>
>The things I like about the cloth grocery bags is that they are square
>and have a piece of rigid plastic in the bottom that keeps them square
>and upright. The hold way more than a regular plastic grocery bag,
>don't puncture and have handles that make them easy to carry.
>
>I can get into two cloth bags which would have taken four or five
>plastic bags to hold. The produce bags are
>the more biodegradable ones and are actually reusable if you want to
>reuse them as well.
>
>The cloth bags fold up nicely and nest inside one cloth bag and I keep
>them in the trunk of my car so I have
>them at hand.

And when a package of meat leaked into a cloth bag unbeknownst to you
the next day your car will stink like something died in there.

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:28:58 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:26:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2010-03-20, gloria.p > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions/solutions?
>>>>
>>>>When any good idea comes along, can the alarmists be far behind?
>>>>
>>>>Ummm...yeah. Using reusable grocery bags to store rotting road kill,
>>>>then emptying them long enough to shop for bulk granola or fresh
>>>>peaches, is probably not such a good idea. Like my late FIL used to
>>>>say, "Gotta be smarter than the tool".
>>>
>>> Modern disposable shopping bags (paper and plastic) are "greener than
>>> reusables".... disposables consume far less energy to manufacture, can
>>> actually be reused many times and for many purposes, and are highly
>>> biodegradable. Laundering bags creates far more pollution and
>>> consumes far more energy than disposables.
>>
>>
>>Plastic does not biodegrade at all, they photodegrade and when they do
>>they
>>release toxic compounds. Plastics are made from oil.
>
> Not true. "plastic" does not necessarilly mean petrochemical... I
> strongly suggest you consult a dictionary... maybe you'd be so kind as
> to share your dictionary with our low IQ resident mick... vocabulary
> is obviously not his forte, I don't think he has a forte.

Sho nuff I has me a vo cab u larry. Y'alls tawkin cell u loid. Which dem
rascal bags ain't a made ya heyar. Days madeupa dat petro kem ee kuls.

Paul

On Mar 20, 9:29*am, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:26:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> >On 2010-03-20, gloria.p > wrote:
>
> >> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> >> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> >When any good idea comes along, can the alarmists be far behind?
>
> >Ummm...yeah. *Using reusable grocery bags to store rotting road kill,
> >then emptying them long enough to shop for bulk granola or fresh
> >peaches, is probably not such a good idea. *Like my late FIL used to
> >say, "Gotta be smarter than the tool". *
>
> Modern disposable shopping bags (paper and plastic) are "greener than
> reusables".... disposables consume far less energy to manufacture, can
> actually be reused many times and for many purposes, and are highly
> biodegradable. *Laundering bags creates far more pollution and
> consumes far more energy than disposables.

I've never used the canvas style as they don't stand up well, and do
require washing if they get anything leaky in them. But I do have a
few stiff plastic type bags that stand up like a paper bag. And if
they get a leaky item, they can be washed in the sink with a quick
spray of soap and water. The only downside is that I don't always have
a plastic grocery bag handy to scoop the kitty litter.

brooklyn1 wrote:
>> They might cause ore pollution and consume more energy if you do a load
>> of wash just for the bags. You can toss them into a load of laundry and
>> they will only use whatever detergent and water that is already being used.
>
> Normal folks sort laundry... normal folks would save up enough filthy
> bags to make a separate load.. may not be many extra loads in a year
> but even if every three months that's still the cost of four more
> washes. And most folks also use dryers.

I am sure that a bag or two could fit in an appropriate load and make
next to no difference in pollution and energy use. I rarely use the
dryer. Most of my laundry gets hung on the line.

> I have some of those
> reusable totes, the only ones worthwhile are those that are specially
> insulated for traveling with perishables.


I have at least a dozen of them and keep some in my car and some in my
wife's car, so they are always available. I can usually get my weekly
shopping into 2 or 3 bags which is better than having a dozen of those
plastic shopping bags.

"gloria.p" > wrote in message
...
>
> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p



Basically, you have to toss them in the washing machine. What's the big
deal?

Jill

On Mar 20, 11:17*am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p

I wash my bags about once a month. Most of them are cloth from trade
shows and other freebies before this new woven stuff started to be
popular. Some of my bags are permanently stained, but I know they're
clean.

Besides, don't we put most of our produce, meats, and other items into
plastic bags so they are all wrapped up anyhow?

I have a real problem with people who are not immune compromised who
freak out at the thought of germs. They should swab their skin and
culture it. Soon you'll see them in sterile suits.

maxine in ri

On Mar 20, 11:48*am, Omelet > wrote:

>
> <lol> Too true! *HEB has signs posted in the parking lot over the cart
> corrals to remind people, but I still don't always remember! *It's
> taking me time to get used to doing it. *I really do like them better
> for many reasons, one of which is that they hold a lot more so I can
> make fewer trips into the house after a grocery run.
> --

Same here. I like being able to carry heavier loads with fewer trips.
And the nicer handles don't dig into my hands. Since I work at a
grocery store, I keep them in my backpack, so no problem when shopping
after work. But I do have a hard time remembering on days off or when
I go to other stores. I will take them in the car, but forget to take
them into the store.

On Mar 20, 3:29*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Janet Baraclough wrote:
> > The message >
> > from sf > contains these words:
>
> >> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:46:37 -0400, blake murphy
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> #2 plastic bags are 'highly biodegradable'? *you get stupider every day.
>
> >> We got something packed in what looked like styrofoam squigglies...
> >> but they were a corn product. *Maybe they're doing that with baggies
> >> now.
>
> > * * Several UK smkt chains *only supply biodegradable corn-starch bags.
> > They look and feel *like a plastic bag and *are waterproof and strong
> > enough to use a couple of times.
> > In landfill it takes the bags about 3 months to biodegrade. *Our local
> > council encourages homeowners to *compost green waste, and supplies a
> > biodegradable bin liner for *collecting it.
>
> When we started having to use biodegradable bags for the compost garbage
> we had a problem with them composting too quickly. They were falling
> apart before they were full.

For the household compostables, we've cut off the top of half gallon
milk bottles, leaving the handle, and use those for food prep
trimmings. Easy to carry out to the compost piles, easy to rinse out
when they get squidgy, and easy to replace by purchasing another
plastic milk jug for times of need. The old one goes in the plastics
recycling bin and Bob's your Uncle.

maxine in ri

"Janet Baraclough" > wrote in message
...
> The message >
> from "Paul M. Cook" > contains these words:
>
>
>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > "gloria.p" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>> >>
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions/solutions?
>> >>
>> >> gloria p
>> >
>> >
>> > Sure. Ignore the article. It's what I plan to do. I wash my tote
>> > bags
>> > every once in a while just for fun and if something has leaked in one,
>> > I
>> > wash it for sure. I can't worry about it. Life is full of risks.
>
>
>> You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat
>> that was
>> last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
>
> yeah? Just think how many people put their shopping bag on the car
> seat. Think about it.
> Car seats, human backsides.farts, high speed injection of e-coli
> laden gas into upholstery.
> Or urine dribbles from laughing too much.


What I meant was the grocery cart seat, not 'car' seat. One of my stores
has disposable sanitary wipes right next to the carts. I just assumed
grocery store and cart would be an automatic association. My bad.

Paul

On Mar 20, 3:10*pm, Janet Baraclough >
wrote:
> The message >
> from "Paul M. Cook" > contains these words:
>
> > "gloria.p" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > > I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> > > Any suggestions/solutions?
> > Well this guy I know started using them and all of a sudden ... BANG!
> > Herpes.
>
> * That'll teach you not go shopping without wearing *a condom.
> *Casual shopping *can ruin your life.
>
> * Janet

Janet, thank you for giving me a reason to clean my keyboard and
screen. You are too funny.

maxine n ri

On Mar 20, 5:17*pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> >> If they'd only jump up and down so you remember to bring
> >> them into the store, they'd be perfect!
> > <lol> Too true! *HEB has signs posted in the parking lot over the cart
> > corrals to remind people, but I still don't always remember!
>
> I've found it's pretty universal and yet perplexing that people
> can't remember to bring the bags in. *One store where I shop
> occasionally even gives you 3 cents back for every one you use. *
>
> > It's
> > taking me time to get used to doing it. *I really do like them better
> > for many reasons, one of which is that they hold a lot more so I can
> > make fewer trips into the house after a grocery run.
>
> It's all good. *You can pack a ton of stuff in those things. *I do
> put meat into a plastic bag. *I recycle the plastic bags I use
> by bringing them back to the store bin or using them around the
> house. *Emptying the vacuum cleaner, for instance.
>
> nancy *

We get $0.05 per reused bag. You need to move out of cheapo NJ <G>

maxine in ri

maxine in ri wrote:

>
> For the household compostables, we've cut off the top of half gallon
> milk bottles, leaving the handle, and use those for food prep
> trimmings. Easy to carry out to the compost piles, easy to rinse out
> when they get squidgy, and easy to replace by purchasing another
> plastic milk jug for times of need. The old one goes in the plastics
> recycling bin and Bob's your Uncle.


We have a stainless bucket with a lid for compose garbage and take it
out to the compost thingamabob in the back yard, and a second one for
bones and fat that we use bags in to go to the compost garbage pickup.

On Mar 20, 12:30*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> On Mar 20, 8:17*am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
>
> > I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> > Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> > gloria p
>
> well, I guess if you put raw meat directly into the bag....
>
> I still use the flimsy plastic bags in the meat and produce department
> to put stuff in. *Foods never actually
> come into contact with my cloth grocery bags. *Seems like common sense
> to me.

>
>
This is _exactly_ what I do, also.

This has nothing to do with the reusable the grocery bags, but when I
pull out one of those Clorox wipes at the door to wipe the handle of
the grocery cart, I always hang onto it. If I do get a package of
drippy meat (blech!) I wipe of my hands with the wipe after I've
placed it in one of those flimsy plastic bags.

On Mar 20, 1:42*pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
>
> > > Sure. *Ignore the article. *It's what I plan to do. *I wash my tote bags
> > > every once in a while just for fun and if something has leaked in one, I
> > > wash it for sure. * I can't worry about it. *Life is full of risks.
>
> > You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat that was
> > last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
>
> > Paul
>
> EW! *Thanks for that one! <sigh> *Now I'm gonna have to wipe down my
> cart seat every time I go to the store!
> --
> Peace! Om
>
>
Yuck! Me, too as I had not thought of that.

On Mar 20, 3:47*pm, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
> On Mar 20, 12:30*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 20, 8:17*am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
>
> > > I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> > > Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> > > gloria p
>
> > well, I guess if you put raw meat directly into the bag....
>
> > I still use the flimsy plastic bags in the meat and produce department
> > to put stuff in. *Foods never actually
> > come into contact with my cloth grocery bags. *Seems like common sense
> > to me.
>
> This is *_exactly_ *what I do, also.
>
> This has nothing to do with the reusable the grocery bags, but when I
> pull out one of those Clorox wipes at the door to wipe the handle of
> the grocery cart, I always hang onto it. *If I do get a package of
> drippy meat (blech!) I wipe of my hands with the wipe after I've
> placed it in one of those flimsy plastic bags.

Good idea. those little wipes come in handy.

On Mar 20, 4:17*pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>
>*I recycle the plastic bags I use
> by bringing them back to the store bin or using them around the
> house. *Emptying the vacuum cleaner, for instance.
>
> nancy
>
>
They're also good for cleaning out kitty litter boxes, too.*

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:38:08 -0700 (PDT), maxine in ri
> wrote:

>>
>> nancy *
>
>We get $0.05 per reused bag. You need to move out of cheapo NJ <G>
>
>maxine in ri

My Shop Rite here in northern NJ gives $0.05.

Boron

maxine in ri wrote:
> On Mar 20, 5:17 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>> I've found it's pretty universal and yet perplexing that people
>> can't remember to bring the bags in. One store where I shop
>> occasionally even gives you 3 cents back for every one you use.

> We get $0.05 per reused bag. You need to move out of cheapo NJ <G>

(laugh) Hey, that would be an extra 6 or 8 cents for me, usually!
Might pay for a move. How are the winters there?

nancy

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:53:46 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:28:58 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:26:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2010-03-20, gloria.p > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions/solutions?
>>>>>
>>>>>When any good idea comes along, can the alarmists be far behind?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ummm...yeah. Using reusable grocery bags to store rotting road kill,
>>>>>then emptying them long enough to shop for bulk granola or fresh
>>>>>peaches, is probably not such a good idea. Like my late FIL used to
>>>>>say, "Gotta be smarter than the tool".
>>>>
>>>> Modern disposable shopping bags (paper and plastic) are "greener than
>>>> reusables".... disposables consume far less energy to manufacture, can
>>>> actually be reused many times and for many purposes, and are highly
>>>> biodegradable. Laundering bags creates far more pollution and
>>>> consumes far more energy than disposables.
>>>
>>>
>>>Plastic does not biodegrade at all, they photodegrade and when they do
>>>they
>>>release toxic compounds. Plastics are made from oil.
>>
>> Not true. "plastic" does not necessarilly mean petrochemical... I
>> strongly suggest you consult a dictionary... maybe you'd be so kind as
>> to share your dictionary with our low IQ resident mick... vocabulary
>> is obviously not his forte, I don't think he has a forte.
>
>Sho nuff I has me a vo cab u larry. Y'alls tawkin cell u loid. Which dem
>rascal bags ain't a made ya heyar. Days madeupa dat petro kem ee kuls.

You gotta be irish, you're as functionally illiterate as our resident
dumb mick. Yo, right now the Pope is applogizing for Duh'Weenie type
micks... not good enough... all those in the catholick church need
castration, otherwise they're hypocrites.. all hucksters anyway,
promoting their sicko fairytales.

maxine in ri wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 3:29 pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> > Janet Baraclough wrote:
> > > The message >
> > > from sf > contains these words:
> >
> > >> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:46:37 -0400, blake murphy
> > >> > wrote:
> >
> > >>> #2 plastic bags are 'highly biodegradable'? you get stupider every day.
> >
> > >> We got something packed in what looked like styrofoam squigglies...
> > >> but they were a corn product. Maybe they're doing that with baggies
> > >> now.
> >
> > > Several UK smkt chains only supply biodegradable corn-starch bags.
> > > They look and feel like a plastic bag and are waterproof and strong
> > > enough to use a couple of times.
> > > In landfill it takes the bags about 3 months to biodegrade. Our local
> > > council encourages homeowners to compost green waste, and supplies a
> > > biodegradable bin liner for collecting it.
> >
> > When we started having to use biodegradable bags for the compost garbage
> > we had a problem with them composting too quickly. They were falling
> > apart before they were full.
>
> For the household compostables, we've cut off the top of half gallon
> milk bottles, leaving the handle, and use those for food prep
> trimmings. Easy to carry out to the compost piles, easy to rinse out
> when they get squidgy, and easy to replace by purchasing another
> plastic milk jug for times of need. The old one goes in the plastics
> recycling bin and Bob's your Uncle.
>
> maxine in ri


Hey you are right! Bob is my uncle LOL.

Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
> The message >
> from sf > contains these words:
>
> > On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:46:37 -0400, blake murphy
> > > wrote:
>
> > >
> > > #2 plastic bags are 'highly biodegradable'? you get stupider every day.
>
> > We got something packed in what looked like styrofoam squigglies...
> > but they were a corn product. Maybe they're doing that with baggies
> > now.
>
> Several UK smkt chains only supply biodegradable corn-starch bags.
> They look and feel like a plastic bag and are waterproof and strong
> enough to use a couple of times.
> In landfill it takes the bags about 3 months to biodegrade. Our local
> council encourages homeowners to compost green waste, and supplies a
> biodegradable bin liner for collecting it.
>
> http://www.packagingknowledge.com/de...dable_bags.asp
>
> Janet

Sainsbury's used to sell 'photobiodegradable' trash bags. However, there
was a lack of logic to that. Landfills aren't good sources of sunlight,
as the trash is packed in layers and soil put over that. They apparently
didn't sell well cos they weren't available a few months later.

In article >,
"gloria.p" > wrote:

> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p

The suggestions in the article you cited make the most sense.

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:

>>>
>>> If I carry my green bags like I should, they go in there first. My
>>> purse is around my waist since I use a fannypack.

>> <cough> good for you
>>
>> pssssssssssssssssss Om.. in UK the fanny bit is at the front.
>>
>>
> It is for me too, sorta. I wear it by habit just forward of the left
> hip. Sometimes the fannypack doubles as a holster depending on where I
> am and where I am going, and I use a right handed cross-draw. ;-)


That's not what she meant, OM. In the UK a "fanny" is a woman's
sexual, frontal parts.

gloria p

Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:

>> --
>
> Most of my groceries, and my purse! And no, I don't worry about wiping
> it down first... if the cart looks particularly grubby I'll use a
> different one, but that's about the limit of my caring.


Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, EVER
leave your purse in the grocery cart unless you are inviting someone
to steal the purse or your wallet from it.

This week in two very far-flung areas of Denver there have been men
in grocery stores stealing valuables from shoppers' carts. In addition,
they have been reaching into the passenger's side of cars and stealing
purses when women return grocery carts to the "corrals" or when they
put their purse inside and unload groceries into the trunk. In at least
one local parking lot there has been a duo, thief and lookout, and they
have worked the parking lots on both of the stores on opposite corners.

The bad economy is spawning many more scams.

gloria p

In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> >> > If I carry my green bags like I should, they go in there first. My
> >> > purse is around my waist since I use a fannypack.
> >>
> >> <cough> good for you
> >>
> >> pssssssssssssssssss Om.. in UK the fanny bit is at the front.
> >>
> >>
> > It is for me too, sorta. I wear it by habit just forward of the left
> > hip. Sometimes the fannypack doubles as a holster depending on where I
> > am and where I am going, and I use a right handed cross-draw. ;-)
>
> That is not quite what I meant.. but never mind...
> --
> --
> https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

<laughs> I know.

I was just teasing you!
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>

"Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck." --Dalai Lama

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
> >> If they'd only jump up and down so you remember to bring
> >> them into the store, they'd be perfect!
>
> > <lol> Too true! HEB has signs posted in the parking lot over the cart
> > corrals to remind people, but I still don't always remember!
>
> I've found it's pretty universal and yet perplexing that people
> can't remember to bring the bags in. One store where I shop
> occasionally even gives you 3 cents back for every one you use.

I'm seeing that more and more. It's not universal yet. Some stores I've
shopped at offer 5 cents.

>
> > It's
> > taking me time to get used to doing it. I really do like them better
> > for many reasons, one of which is that they hold a lot more so I can
> > make fewer trips into the house after a grocery run.
>
> It's all good. You can pack a ton of stuff in those things. I do
> put meat into a plastic bag. I recycle the plastic bags I use
> by bringing them back to the store bin or using them around the
> house. Emptying the vacuum cleaner, for instance.
>
> nancy

I either take them back to the store to recycle or use them for various
stuff too. I use them for bagging food scraps to take out to the
dumpster and misc. tasks.
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In article
>,
" > wrote:

> On Mar 20, 11:48*am, Omelet > wrote:
>
> >
> > <lol> Too true! *HEB has signs posted in the parking lot over the cart
> > corrals to remind people, but I still don't always remember! *It's
> > taking me time to get used to doing it. *I really do like them better
> > for many reasons, one of which is that they hold a lot more so I can
> > make fewer trips into the house after a grocery run.
> > --
>
> Same here. I like being able to carry heavier loads with fewer trips.
> And the nicer handles don't dig into my hands. Since I work at a
> grocery store, I keep them in my backpack, so no problem when shopping
> after work. But I do have a hard time remembering on days off or when
> I go to other stores. I will take them in the car, but forget to take
> them into the store.

It's amusing how universal that is. ;-) We live in a disposable society!
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In article > ,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> maxine in ri wrote:
>
> >
> > For the household compostables, we've cut off the top of half gallon
> > milk bottles, leaving the handle, and use those for food prep
> > trimmings. Easy to carry out to the compost piles, easy to rinse out
> > when they get squidgy, and easy to replace by purchasing another
> > plastic milk jug for times of need. The old one goes in the plastics
> > recycling bin and Bob's your Uncle.
>
>
> We have a stainless bucket with a lid for compose garbage and take it
> out to the compost thingamabob in the back yard, and a second one for
> bones and fat that we use bags in to go to the compost garbage pickup.

I have a covered container that is plastic lined on the kitchen sink. I
never put food scraps into the kitchen trash. Makes it stink. I also
don't have a garbage disposal in the sink. This is so much easier. Tie
it up and take it out every day or two and put it directly into the
outdoor dumpster. The cats stay out of the trash and my kitchen does
not smell like rotting garbage.
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In article >,
"gloria.p" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>> If I carry my green bags like I should, they go in there first. My
> >>> purse is around my waist since I use a fannypack.
>
> >> <cough> good for you
> >>
> >> pssssssssssssssssss Om.. in UK the fanny bit is at the front.
> >>
> >>
> > It is for me too, sorta. I wear it by habit just forward of the left
> > hip. Sometimes the fannypack doubles as a holster depending on where I
> > am and where I am going, and I use a right handed cross-draw. ;-)
>
>
> That's not what she meant, OM. In the UK a "fanny" is a woman's
> sexual, frontal parts.
>
> gloria p

Ah! Ok. I did not know that slang. ;-)

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Omelet wrote:

>In article > ,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> maxine in ri wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > For the household compostables, we've cut off the top of half gallon
>> > milk bottles, leaving the handle, and use those for food prep
>> > trimmings. Easy to carry out to the compost piles, easy to rinse out
>> > when they get squidgy, and easy to replace by purchasing another
>> > plastic milk jug for times of need. The old one goes in the plastics
>> > recycling bin and Bob's your Uncle.
>>
>>
>> We have a stainless bucket with a lid for compose garbage and take it
>> out to the compost thingamabob in the back yard, and a second one for
>> bones and fat that we use bags in to go to the compost garbage pickup.
>
>I have a covered container that is plastic lined on the kitchen sink. I
>never put food scraps into the kitchen trash. Makes it stink. I also
>don't have a garbage disposal in the sink. This is so much easier. Tie
>it up and take it out every day or two and put it directly into the
>outdoor dumpster. The cats stay out of the trash and my kitchen does
>not smell like rotting garbage.

I have a stainless steel compost bucket from Lee Valley by my sink.
During winter when the weather won't allow me to get to the composter
I dump the compost stuff into a plastic pail outside my garage door,
it never stinks because during winter it's frozen solid. Any meat
scraps get tossed into my yard, the crows make quick work of anything
meaty. My trash bag hangs from a large cup hook screwed into the door
jamb at the back door to my garage, it never stinks because no food
items go in that bag... I only keep it way high out of reach so the
cat's don't get too curious. My trash consists of packaging
materials, milk containers, paper, cardboard, tin cans, jars and such,
nothing that can stink. I really don't generate a lot of trash; once
a week I fill one standard sized trash can, more than half is used cat
litter... a lot of people around here toss their used cat litter into
their woods but I think that's nasty, I keep my property clean. I
have private trash pick up, $23/month, but many people here wont pay
it so they dump all trash on their property, I think that is
disgusting. Some at least bring their trash to the town dump where
they pay I think $2.50 each large trash bag. I think it costs less to
let the private sanitation pick up rather than drive to the dump each
week. Private sanitation wiol pick up two cans but I only generate
enough for one. Living where their are cold winters, for much of the
year I don'concern myself with garbage smelling.

My typical winter trash pick up, even if there's any food it will
won't stink, a good portion of the time it's frozen solid:
http://i44.tinypic.com/9hm4iw.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/b52x5g.jpg

In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> I have a stainless steel compost bucket from Lee Valley by my sink.

Mine is a plastic snap lid container but SS would work just as well. I
keep some baking soda deodorant sprinkled in the bottom of it under the
bag liner.

> During winter when the weather won't allow me to get to the composter
> I dump the compost stuff into a plastic pail outside my garage door,
> it never stinks because during winter it's frozen solid. Any meat
> scraps get tossed into my yard, the crows make quick work of anything
> meaty.

Crows are handy garbage disposals. ;-) My dogs generally get meat
scraps, but I limit the bones for safety reasons. I know you don't have
a dog.

> My trash bag hangs from a large cup hook screwed into the door
> jamb at the back door to my garage, it never stinks because no food
> items go in that bag... I only keep it way high out of reach so the
> cat's don't get too curious.

Since I don't put cans in there and any meat wrappers go directly into
the outdoor dumpster cart (much like yours, the city provides them),
they never have a reason to get curious about the kitchen trash can. All
tin or aluminum cans and various plastic and newspaper go into a covered
recycling trash can in a corner of the kitchen. Even tho' I rinse cans
and stuff, I still keep it covered. Otherwise it attracts these teensy
little flies that I don't want around. :-P

Used cat litter is bagged by itself when I clean the litter boxes and
goes straight out to the cart.

> My trash consists of packaging
> materials, milk containers, paper, cardboard, tin cans, jars and such,
> nothing that can stink. I really don't generate a lot of trash; once
> a week I fill one standard sized trash can, more than half is used cat
> litter... a lot of people around here toss their used cat litter into
> their woods but I think that's nasty, I keep my property clean.

That is gross. That stuff gets slimy! It's not like the old clay cat
litter. We used to poop scoop when we used the old style litter many
years ago and then dump it poop free into the garden and mix it into the
soil. It was great as a soil aerator, but you can't do that with the
scoopable stuff. That all goes to the landfill.

> I
> have private trash pick up, $23/month, but many people here wont pay
> it so they dump all trash on their property, I think that is
> disgusting.

Geeze. At least they could bury it! That's just so unsightly and gross.

> Some at least bring their trash to the town dump where
> they pay I think $2.50 each large trash bag. I think it costs less to
> let the private sanitation pick up rather than drive to the dump each
> week. Private sanitation wiol pick up two cans but I only generate
> enough for one. Living where their are cold winters, for much of the
> year I don'concern myself with garbage smelling.

Well, I'm a suburbanite so trash cart pickup is kind of a given. I'm on
..22 acres. Some people outside of town burn some trash to save money,
but that's pretty heavily regulated, especially when it is dry. There is
a local landfill but I'm not sure what it costs to dump there. Many
people cheat and break the law, and sneak their trash into commercial
dumpsters like outside of convenience stores and stuff. <g> There really
is very little illegal dumping thank goodness!

I have two carts, two different colors. One for trash, one for
recycling. They recycle all metal, paper, cardboard and plastics #1 thru
#7. I recycle more trash than I toss out. :-)

>
> My typical winter trash pick up, even if there's any food it will
> won't stink, a good portion of the time it's frozen solid:
> http://i44.tinypic.com/9hm4iw.jpg
>
> http://i39.tinypic.com/b52x5g.jpg

I can imagine! My food scraps are tightly bagged tho' so my cart rarely
smells even in the summer. If it does, I hose it out, then dump a large
box of baking soda into it. That works a treat.
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"Karen AKA Kajikit" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:20:32 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Omelet" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> In article >,
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > In article >,
>>>> > "gloria.p" > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Any suggestions/solutions?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> gloria p
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sure. Ignore the article. It's what I plan to do. I wash my tote
>>>> > bags
>>>> > every once in a while just for fun and if something has leaked in
>>>> > one,
>>>> > I
>>>> > wash it for sure. I can't worry about it. Life is full of risks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat
>>>> that
>>>> was
>>>> last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>
>>> EW! Thanks for that one! <sigh> Now I'm gonna have to wipe down my
>>> cart seat every time I go to the store!
>>
>>Hey don't complain! Be thankful you now know!!! But, a question... what
>>or
>>whom do you put in your cart seat?
>>--
>
> Most of my groceries, and my purse! And no, I don't worry about wiping
> it down first... if the cart looks particularly grubby I'll use a
> different one, but that's about the limit of my caring. Anything
> fragile or small goes into the basket part so that it doesn't get
> jostled around and broken eg. eggs, yoghurts, fruit, lettuce, bread
> etc etc. The big things go into the bottom of the cart and the smaller
> ones go in the top.

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"itsjoannotjoann" > wrote in message
...
> On Mar 20, 1:42 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>>
>>
>> > > Sure. Ignore the article. It's what I plan to do. I wash my tote
>> > > bags
>> > > every once in a while just for fun and if something has leaked in
>> > > one, I
>> > > wash it for sure. I can't worry about it. Life is full of risks.
>>
>> > You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat
>> > that was
>> > last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
>>
>> > Paul
>>
>> EW! Thanks for that one! <sigh> Now I'm gonna have to wipe down my
>> cart seat every time I go to the store!
>> --
>> Peace! Om
>>
>>
> Yuck! Me, too as I had not thought of that.

I never actually use that bit. I keep it closed.

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"gloria.p" > wrote in message
...
> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
>
>>> --
>>
>> Most of my groceries, and my purse! And no, I don't worry about wiping
>> it down first... if the cart looks particularly grubby I'll use a
>> different one, but that's about the limit of my caring.
>
>
> Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, EVER
> leave your purse in the grocery cart unless you are inviting someone
> to steal the purse or your wallet from it.
>
> This week in two very far-flung areas of Denver there have been men
> in grocery stores stealing valuables from shoppers' carts. In addition,
> they have been reaching into the passenger's side of cars and stealing
> purses when women return grocery carts to the "corrals" or when they
> put their purse inside and unload groceries into the trunk. In at least
> one local parking lot there has been a duo, thief and lookout, and they
> have worked the parking lots on both of the stores on opposite corners.
>
> The bad economy is spawning many more scams.

I had a surreal experience the other week. I was walking along the
checkouts looking for an empty one, and I saw a woman's purse (not handbag
but a purse that money is kept in. Sorry i can't remember what you call it)
just sitting at the end of the line of groceries. The woman was at the
checkout end packing. I called to her. 'Excuse me, you have left your
purse here' She just smiled and said.. 'Ok it will come through' ????

She didn't look particularly gormless
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> >> > If I carry my green bags like I should, they go in there first. My
>> >> > purse is around my waist since I use a fannypack.
>> >>
>> >> <cough> good for you
>> >>
>> >> pssssssssssssssssss Om.. in UK the fanny bit is at the front.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > It is for me too, sorta. I wear it by habit just forward of the left
>> > hip. Sometimes the fannypack doubles as a holster depending on where I
>> > am and where I am going, and I use a right handed cross-draw. ;-)
>>
>> That is not quite what I meant.. but never mind...
>
> <laughs> I know.
>
> I was just teasing you!

<THWAP> ;p
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"Omelet" > ha scritto nel messaggio newsmpomelet-

It's > taking me time to get used to doing it. I really do like them
better > for many reasons, one of which is that they hold a lot more so I
can > make fewer trips into the house after a grocery run.

Really? I have a few that I picked up in the US and I never use them here
because they seem so tiny. Our reusable bags are enormous. You can use 2
to do a week's shopping. They run about 30" high by 24" wide and 9" deep.
They have bottle holder straps sewn inside and rounded handles. Many also
have a strap that snaps to keep the top closed. I can get more in there
than I can carry up the stairs to the kitchen.

"Omelet" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> sf > wrote:
"Giusi" >

>> > At the supermarkets most of it is in little sealed trays, no?
>>
>> They often don't seal the trays very well, so the bottoms are damp.
>
> Or leaky.

Must be watery meat over there! Some of mine are so sealed I have to stab
them with knives to get in.