I just saw this in a newspaper:

http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk

Any suggestions/solutions?

gloria p

On 2010-03-20, gloria.p > wrote:
>
> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?

When any good idea comes along, can the alarmists be far behind?

Ummm...yeah. Using reusable grocery bags to store rotting road kill,
then emptying them long enough to shop for bulk granola or fresh
peaches, is probably not such a good idea. Like my late FIL used to
say, "Gotta be smarter than the tool".

nb

"gloria.p" > wrote in message
...
>
> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p

Hi Gloria,

I have gotten very good at remembering to take my own bags into the market.
I have had concerns about the bacteria they may carry. After I unload the
bags, I take them back into the garage and put them into my pickup so they
are there for the next trip. On the work bench in the garage I have a can
of Lysol spray. I can spray the bags if needed. I do not spray them every
time. Depends on what I carried in them and how long it has been since I
sprayed them. Once in a great while I wash them. When we have traveled,
some countries charge for the plastic bags. In Austria it came to about
$.35 each. While that is not a lot of money, it would certainly add up over
a year's time.

I am still surprised at how many stores will put one item into a bag. More
and more are getting good about asking if you want a bag.

I feel better about not having all of those bags here.

later,

Dale

gloria.p wrote:
>
> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p

Yes. Use common sense and take precautions, as stated in the
article. Use washable bags. Be aware of possible contamination.

--
Jean B.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently
opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:26:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2010-03-20, gloria.p > wrote:
>>
>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>
>> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
>When any good idea comes along, can the alarmists be far behind?
>
>Ummm...yeah. Using reusable grocery bags to store rotting road kill,
>then emptying them long enough to shop for bulk granola or fresh
>peaches, is probably not such a good idea. Like my late FIL used to
>say, "Gotta be smarter than the tool".

Modern disposable shopping bags (paper and plastic) are "greener than
reusables".... disposables consume far less energy to manufacture, can
actually be reused many times and for many purposes, and are highly
biodegradable. Laundering bags creates far more pollution and
consumes far more energy than disposables.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:29:24 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:26:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2010-03-20, gloria.p > wrote:
>>>
>>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>>
>>> Any suggestions/solutions?
>>
>>When any good idea comes along, can the alarmists be far behind?
>>
>>Ummm...yeah. Using reusable grocery bags to store rotting road kill,
>>then emptying them long enough to shop for bulk granola or fresh
>>peaches, is probably not such a good idea. Like my late FIL used to
>>say, "Gotta be smarter than the tool".
>
> Modern disposable shopping bags (paper and plastic) are "greener than
> reusables".... disposables consume far less energy to manufacture, can
> actually be reused many times and for many purposes, and are highly
> biodegradable. Laundering bags creates far more pollution and
> consumes far more energy than disposables.

#2 plastic bags are 'highly biodegradable'? you get stupider every day.

blake

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:46:37 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>
> #2 plastic bags are 'highly biodegradable'? you get stupider every day.

We got something packed in what looked like styrofoam squigglies...
but they were a corn product. Maybe they're doing that with baggies
now. We use the reusable, flat bottomed, grocery bags now that they
come in large paper bag size.

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On Mar 20, 8:17*am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p

well, I guess if you put raw meat directly into the bag....

I still use the flimsy plastic bags in the meat and produce department
to put stuff in. Foods never actually
come into contact with my cloth grocery bags. Seems like common sense
to me.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:30:17 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

> On Mar 20, 8:17*am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
> > I just saw this in a newspaper:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
> >
> > Any suggestions/solutions?
> >
> > gloria p
>
> well, I guess if you put raw meat directly into the bag....
>
> I still use the flimsy plastic bags in the meat and produce department
> to put stuff in. Foods never actually
> come into contact with my cloth grocery bags. Seems like common sense
> to me.

I guess some people need to be told.

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"ImStillMags" ha scritto nel messaggio
"gloria.p" > wrote:
> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p

well, I guess if you put raw meat directly into the bag....

>I still use the flimsy plastic bags in the meat and >produce department to
>put stuff in. Foods never >actually
>come into contact with my cloth grocery bags. Seems >like common sense to
>me.

So you use as many as twenty little bags to avoid using one big one?
Who buys meat that is totally unwrapped? Even my butcher wraps it in
butcher paper and string. At the supermarkets most of it is in little
sealed trays, no?

In article >,
"gloria.p" > wrote:

> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?

I think it was all contained in the article. I'll summarize:

"Could it be possible that"

Well, yes.

"It would be smart to use a little common sense."

Why? People don't normally.

"This is not much different from washing out lunch boxes."

Or clothes. Or hands. Or unmentionables. When stuff gets dirty, you
should wash it. Or other stuff will get dirty.



I thought it was a good article. For people who use these, I would
suggest they read it.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
"gloria.p" > wrote:

> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p

Yeah. They are inexpensive so keep a good supply on hand and
wash them between uses!

Mine machine wash just fine and I always bag my produce in the produce
section anyway, and also always have used the rolls of bags in the meat
section for any packaged meats that tend to be leaky. Whole Chickens
are always well sealed.

The only meats that tend to leak on me are small packages with a lot of
blood in them such as chicken hearts and gizzards and some small cuts of
other meats. The sealed bags of chicken parts have never been a problem.
Ground meat and sausage also don't leak, but often beef or pork steaks
do so those get bagged also.

I don't see a big deal here. Common sense (which I know can be an
oxy-moron <g>) will work here.

I've been washing my bags anyway when they show any signs of visible
soiling or if I note that something has spilled in them when I go to put
groceries away...
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On Mar 20, 10:56*am, "Giusi" > wrote:
> "ImStillMags" *ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> *"gloria.p" > wrote:
> > I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> > Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> > gloria p
>
> well, I guess if you put raw meat directly into the bag....
>
> >I still use the flimsy plastic bags in the meat and >produce department to
> >put stuff in. *Foods never >actually
> >come into contact with my cloth grocery bags. *Seems >like common sense to
> >me.
>
> So you use as many as twenty little bags to avoid using one big one?
> Who buys meat that is totally unwrapped? *Even my butcher wraps it in
> butcher paper and string. *At the supermarkets most of it is in little
> sealed trays, no?

no, more like three or four of the little flimsy ones per trip.
Even with the sealed trays you can get leakage. Even with butcher
paper and string you can get leakage. I don't put vegetables
straight into the bags either.

The things I like about the cloth grocery bags is that they are square
and have a piece of rigid plastic in the bottom that keeps them square
and upright. The hold way more than a regular plastic grocery bag,
don't puncture and have handles that make them easy to carry.

I can get into two cloth bags which would have taken four or five
plastic bags to hold. The produce bags are
the more biodegradable ones and are actually reusable if you want to
reuse them as well.

The cloth bags fold up nicely and nest inside one cloth bag and I keep
them in the trunk of my car so I have
them at hand.

In article >,
"gloria.p" > wrote:

> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p


Sure. Ignore the article. It's what I plan to do. I wash my tote bags
every once in a while just for fun and if something has leaked in one, I
wash it for sure. I can't worry about it. Life is full of risks.

--
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In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2010-03-20, gloria.p > wrote:
> >
> > I just saw this in a newspaper:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
> >
> > Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> When any good idea comes along, can the alarmists be far behind?

Amen!!!
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"gloria.p" > wrote in message
...
>
> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?


Well this guy I know started using them and all of a sudden ... BANG!
Herpes.

Bacteria doesn't survive very long unless it stays moist. I would think
that if any wee beasties managed to infiltrate the fabric they'd dry out and
die really fast. And it is absolutely amazing how washing things gets them
clean. Somehow I don't see the ERs filling up with victims of fabric bags.
Although there will be some moron, somewhere that will manage to do
themselves harm and before long you'll see mandatory labels on the bags
saying things like "not to be used as a flotation device."

Paul

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:26:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2010-03-20, gloria.p > wrote:
>>>
>>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>>
>>> Any suggestions/solutions?
>>
>>When any good idea comes along, can the alarmists be far behind?
>>
>>Ummm...yeah. Using reusable grocery bags to store rotting road kill,
>>then emptying them long enough to shop for bulk granola or fresh
>>peaches, is probably not such a good idea. Like my late FIL used to
>>say, "Gotta be smarter than the tool".
>
> Modern disposable shopping bags (paper and plastic) are "greener than
> reusables".... disposables consume far less energy to manufacture, can
> actually be reused many times and for many purposes, and are highly
> biodegradable. Laundering bags creates far more pollution and
> consumes far more energy than disposables.


Plastic does not biodegrade at all, they photodegrade and when they do they
release toxic compounds. Plastics are made from oil. Worldwide billions of
bags used every day. Way too many of them make it into the oceans where
they destroy marine life. Laundering bags would create no more pollution
and energy demand unless you wash them individually and not with your
underwear and t-shirts.

Paul

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> "gloria.p" > wrote:
>
>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>
>> Any suggestions/solutions?
>>
>> gloria p
>
>
> Sure. Ignore the article. It's what I plan to do. I wash my tote bags
> every once in a while just for fun and if something has leaked in one, I
> wash it for sure. I can't worry about it. Life is full of risks.


You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat that was
last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.

Paul

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"Giusi" > wrote:

> "ImStillMags" ha scritto nel messaggio
> "gloria.p" > wrote:
> > I just saw this in a newspaper:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
> >
> > Any suggestions/solutions?
> >
> > gloria p
>
> well, I guess if you put raw meat directly into the bag....
>
> >I still use the flimsy plastic bags in the meat and >produce department to
> >put stuff in. Foods never >actually
> >come into contact with my cloth grocery bags. Seems >like common sense to
> >me.
>
> So you use as many as twenty little bags to avoid using one big one?
> Who buys meat that is totally unwrapped? Even my butcher wraps it in
> butcher paper and string. At the supermarkets most of it is in little
> sealed trays, no?

Some of those sealed trays leak. Those are the only ones I bag in the
meat section. :-) The rest I don't bother with.

Some produce such as winter squash does not get bagged, but if I'm
buying things like tomatoes, it does. Carrots come pre-bagged, as do my
beloved romaine hearts.

My use of the flimsy's varies as appropriate.
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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

> Although there will be some moron, somewhere that will manage to do
> themselves harm and before long you'll see mandatory labels on the bags
> saying things like "not to be used as a flotation device."
>
> Paul

<rofl!>
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"Janet Baraclough" < ha scritto nel messaggio

> Several UK smkt chains only supply biodegradable corn-starch bags.>
> They look and feel like a plastic bag and are waterproof and strong>
> enough to use a couple of times.> In landfill it takes the bags about 3
> months to biodegrade.

Our Coop used those. I keep the recycling plastic bottles in a grocery bag
behind a door hung on the doorknob. In only a couple of weeks a loud noise
proved to be the recycling on the floor because the bag had fallen to bits.

ImStillMags wrote:

> The cloth bags fold up nicely and nest inside one cloth bag and I keep
> them in the trunk of my car so I have them at hand.

If they'd only jump up and down so you remember to bring
them into the store, they'd be perfect!

nancy

In article >,
"Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "gloria.p" > wrote:
> >
> >> I just saw this in a newspaper:
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
> >>
> >> Any suggestions/solutions?
> >>
> >> gloria p
> >
> >
> > Sure. Ignore the article. It's what I plan to do. I wash my tote bags
> > every once in a while just for fun and if something has leaked in one, I
> > wash it for sure. I can't worry about it. Life is full of risks.
>
>
> You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat that was
> last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
>
> Paul

EW! Thanks for that one! <sigh> Now I'm gonna have to wipe down my
cart seat every time I go to the store!
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"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> ImStillMags wrote:
>
> > The cloth bags fold up nicely and nest inside one cloth bag and I keep
> > them in the trunk of my car so I have them at hand.
>
> If they'd only jump up and down so you remember to bring
> them into the store, they'd be perfect!
>
> nancy

<lol> Too true! HEB has signs posted in the parking lot over the cart
corrals to remind people, but I still don't always remember! It's
taking me time to get used to doing it. I really do like them better
for many reasons, one of which is that they hold a lot more so I can
make fewer trips into the house after a grocery run.
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
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>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > "gloria.p" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>> >>
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions/solutions?
>> >>
>> >> gloria p
>> >
>> >
>> > Sure. Ignore the article. It's what I plan to do. I wash my tote
>> > bags
>> > every once in a while just for fun and if something has leaked in one,
>> > I
>> > wash it for sure. I can't worry about it. Life is full of risks.
>>
>>
>> You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat that
>> was
>> last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
>>
>> Paul
>
> EW! Thanks for that one! <sigh> Now I'm gonna have to wipe down my
> cart seat every time I go to the store!

Hey don't complain! Be thankful you now know!!! But, a question... what or
whom do you put in your cart seat?
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brooklyn1 wrote:

> . Laundering bags creates far more pollution and
> consumes far more energy than disposables.

They might cause ore pollution and consume more energy if you do a load
of wash just for the bags. You can toss them into a load of laundry and
they will only use whatever detergent and water that is already being used.

Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message >
> from sf > contains these words:
>
>> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:46:37 -0400, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>
>>> #2 plastic bags are 'highly biodegradable'? you get stupider every day.
>
>> We got something packed in what looked like styrofoam squigglies...
>> but they were a corn product. Maybe they're doing that with baggies
>> now.
>
> Several UK smkt chains only supply biodegradable corn-starch bags.
> They look and feel like a plastic bag and are waterproof and strong
> enough to use a couple of times.
> In landfill it takes the bags about 3 months to biodegrade. Our local
> council encourages homeowners to compost green waste, and supplies a
> biodegradable bin liner for collecting it.
>


When we started having to use biodegradable bags for the compost garbage
we had a problem with them composting too quickly. They were falling
apart before they were full.

"gloria.p" > wrote in message
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>
> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>
> Any suggestions/solutions?
>
> gloria p


Throw then into the war-sher if you're from the east.

Washer in the west.


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In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> >> You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat that
> >> was
> >> last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >
> > EW! Thanks for that one! <sigh> Now I'm gonna have to wipe down my
> > cart seat every time I go to the store!
>
> Hey don't complain! Be thankful you now know!!! But, a question... what or
> whom do you put in your cart seat?
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> --
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I don't have kids so not that. Usually boxed items, occasionally
packets of meat or bagged produce, so I guess it really does not matter
much, but still...

If I carry my green bags like I should, they go in there first. My
purse is around my waist since I use a fannypack.
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> >> You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat
>> >> that
>> >> was
>> >> last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
>> >>
>> >> Paul
>> >
>> > EW! Thanks for that one! <sigh> Now I'm gonna have to wipe down my
>> > cart seat every time I go to the store!
>>
>> Hey don't complain! Be thankful you now know!!! But, a question... what
>> or
>> whom do you put in your cart seat?
> I don't have kids so not that. Usually boxed items, occasionally
> packets of meat or bagged produce, so I guess it really does not matter
> much, but still...
>
> If I carry my green bags like I should, they go in there first. My
> purse is around my waist since I use a fannypack.

<cough> good for you

pssssssssssssssssss Om.. in UK the fanny bit is at the front.

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:56:29 +0100, "Giusi" >
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> At the supermarkets most of it is in little sealed trays, no?

They often don't seal the trays very well, so the bottoms are damp.


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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:41:45 -0400, "Nancy Young"
> wrote:

> ImStillMags wrote:
>
> > The cloth bags fold up nicely and nest inside one cloth bag and I keep
> > them in the trunk of my car so I have them at hand.
>
> If they'd only jump up and down so you remember to bring
> them into the store, they'd be perfect!
>
The trick is to put them by your purse so you remember to take them
out to the car. Keep them in the trunk. That way, if you forget them
your longest trip is back to the parking lot.


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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:20:32 -0000, "Ophelia" >
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> But, a question... what or whom do you put in your cart seat?

small items

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:56:29 +0100, "Giusi" >
> wrote:
>
>> At the supermarkets most of it is in little sealed trays, no?
>
> They often don't seal the trays very well, so the bottoms are damp.

You may well have a damp bottom sf, but I couldn't possibly comment <g>
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> > In article >,
> > "Ophelia" > wrote:
> >
> >> >> You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat
> >> >> that
> >> >> was
> >> >> last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
> >> >>
> >> >> Paul
> >> >
> >> > EW! Thanks for that one! <sigh> Now I'm gonna have to wipe down my
> >> > cart seat every time I go to the store!
> >>
> >> Hey don't complain! Be thankful you now know!!! But, a question... what
> >> or
> >> whom do you put in your cart seat?
> > I don't have kids so not that. Usually boxed items, occasionally
> > packets of meat or bagged produce, so I guess it really does not matter
> > much, but still...
> >
> > If I carry my green bags like I should, they go in there first. My
> > purse is around my waist since I use a fannypack.
>
> <cough> good for you
>
> pssssssssssssssssss Om.. in UK the fanny bit is at the front.
>
>
It is for me too, sorta. I wear it by habit just forward of the left
hip. Sometimes the fannypack doubles as a holster depending on where I
am and where I am going, and I use a right handed cross-draw. ;-)
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> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:56:29 +0100, "Giusi" >
> wrote:
>
> > At the supermarkets most of it is in little sealed trays, no?
>
> They often don't seal the trays very well, so the bottoms are damp.

Or leaky.
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> "gloria.p" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>
>> Any suggestions/solutions?

> Throw then into the war-sher if you're from the east.
>
> Washer in the west.

Hah, I think people in DC area say war-sher. Everyone I know
save one says washer.

nancy

"Omelet" > wrote in message
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>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
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>> > In article >,
>> > "Ophelia" > wrote:
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>> >> >> You're far more likely to get sick putting your food on a cart seat
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> last occupied by a toddler with a dirty diaper.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Paul
>> >> >
>> >> > EW! Thanks for that one! <sigh> Now I'm gonna have to wipe down my
>> >> > cart seat every time I go to the store!
>> >>
>> >> Hey don't complain! Be thankful you now know!!! But, a question...
>> >> what
>> >> or
>> >> whom do you put in your cart seat?
>> > I don't have kids so not that. Usually boxed items, occasionally
>> > packets of meat or bagged produce, so I guess it really does not matter
>> > much, but still...
>> >
>> > If I carry my green bags like I should, they go in there first. My
>> > purse is around my waist since I use a fannypack.
>>
>> <cough> good for you
>>
>> pssssssssssssssssss Om.. in UK the fanny bit is at the front.
>>
>>
> It is for me too, sorta. I wear it by habit just forward of the left
> hip. Sometimes the fannypack doubles as a holster depending on where I
> am and where I am going, and I use a right handed cross-draw. ;-)

That is not quite what I meant.. but never mind...
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:28:58 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:26:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2010-03-20, gloria.p > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just saw this in a newspaper:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yg6alyk
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions/solutions?
>>>
>>>When any good idea comes along, can the alarmists be far behind?
>>>
>>>Ummm...yeah. Using reusable grocery bags to store rotting road kill,
>>>then emptying them long enough to shop for bulk granola or fresh
>>>peaches, is probably not such a good idea. Like my late FIL used to
>>>say, "Gotta be smarter than the tool".
>>
>> Modern disposable shopping bags (paper and plastic) are "greener than
>> reusables".... disposables consume far less energy to manufacture, can
>> actually be reused many times and for many purposes, and are highly
>> biodegradable. Laundering bags creates far more pollution and
>> consumes far more energy than disposables.
>
>
>Plastic does not biodegrade at all, they photodegrade and when they do they
>release toxic compounds. Plastics are made from oil.

Not true. "plastic" does not necessarilly mean petrochemical... I
strongly suggest you consult a dictionary... maybe you'd be so kind as
to share your dictionary with our low IQ resident mick... vocabulary
is obviously not his forte, I don't think he has a forte.

Omelet wrote:

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>> If they'd only jump up and down so you remember to bring
>> them into the store, they'd be perfect!

> <lol> Too true! HEB has signs posted in the parking lot over the cart
> corrals to remind people, but I still don't always remember!

I've found it's pretty universal and yet perplexing that people
can't remember to bring the bags in. One store where I shop
occasionally even gives you 3 cents back for every one you use.

> It's
> taking me time to get used to doing it. I really do like them better
> for many reasons, one of which is that they hold a lot more so I can
> make fewer trips into the house after a grocery run.

It's all good. You can pack a ton of stuff in those things. I do
put meat into a plastic bag. I recycle the plastic bags I use
by bringing them back to the store bin or using them around the
house. Emptying the vacuum cleaner, for instance.

nancy