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"Steve B" > wrote in news:qstm77-srs1.ln1
@news.infowest.com: > Care to know any more > facts, or do you have further comments on things you know nothing about? Same goes for you Steverino. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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sf > wrote in
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"Steve B" > wrote in news:3dum77-pst1.ln1
@news.infowest.com: >> Having "rules" is what causes teenage pregnancies and drug abuse among >> young people. > > Funny, I'd say the opposite is true. Lack of rules is what causes that. Statistics fail to support your unwarranted assumption. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:24:16 -0500, George Leppla > > wrote: > >> Steve B wrote: >> >>> My first two wives died. The first from a car accident, the second from >>> pancreatic cancer. The third one lasted 21 years. Care to know any more >>> facts, or do you have further comments on things you know nothing about? >> Crap. You are right... I made an assumption that wasn't based in facts >> and was wrong. My apologies. >> > He didn't exactly make it clear either. People don't call someone who > died an "ex". I agree it was poorly worded, but I'm in a good mood today so I let it slide. George L |
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WTF > wrote in news:aeihq5diihg991p5d1kb0nlp9ramv3co7j@
4ax.com: > Come on people, leave him alone as it's Michel who has this mess and > none of us thank god. He asked for input into a personal family > matter which was inappropriate and he knows it, did he expect rational > replies? Did I ask for input? I don't recall doing that. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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WTF > wrote in news:hlmhq5lhv1i3ic27eltagbg0emlng78bdr@
4ax.com: >>Did I ask for input? I don't recall doing that. > > Check your original post It was a rhetorical question. I did not ask for input. Find me where I asked for input. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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WTF > wrote in news:rrmhq55mtvnjno63fk0oil9raegg7prgt4@
4ax.com: > ->If you think (for some godsforsaken reason) that I'm being unfair to > ->her, let me just say that my wife is also looking forward to the day > ->we get our house back. > > The implication that you wanted comments certainly was here. I don't see that and anyway, it certainly wasn't my intent to solicit opinions by writing that. In fact it was more of a pre-emptive comment to those who would have called me unfair, attempting to allay their suspicions that it might be only me. The simple fact is that it worked. So it was NOT an invitation to opinion. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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Omelet wrote:
>In article >, > Michel Boucher > wrote: > >> Omelet > wrote in news ![]() >> @news-wc.giganews.com: >> >> >> >Nobody can "use" you unless you allow it. >> >> >And I feel that it's better to be used than useless. >> >> >> >> Then you're not only allowing, you're promoting... that's sad... no >> >> self esteem. And what when you're all used up, permanent >> >> uselessness/discarded like garbage. >> > >> > Nah. I'll always at least have pets... >> >> It's interesting how sanctimonious some people can get when it's not their >> own life they're talking about. My experience is that people with strict >> rules fail more often than those with a more flexible frame of reference, >> simply because they lack the ability to adjust to changing circumstances. >> Sort of like the oak in the fable, although the original intent was to >> convey the notion that bending to will of the monarch ensures survival... >> >> I suspect it's often more wishful thinking that actual successes they're >> dithering on about...case of the pot calling everyone who dares to disagree >> with them a kettle, and not the electric kind either. > >And such people are also often lonely. >Personally, I like having someone around to care for, and someone that >cares about me. :-) Caring for and caring about are very different... caring for is about dependancy. >It's a mutual relationship. I'd rather not live >entirely alone. It's, well, "lonely". Boucher's relationship (as he described it) is not mutual it's symbiotic, one is a pushy parasite and the other a spineless wuss. >I came home to an empty house after mom died for a month or two before >dad moved back in with me. I hated it even tho' I have plenty of pets. >It's not the same. Parents are not your friends... I'm sure they'd rather be healthy and live on their own without relying on you (or anyone) for constant care. My pets are my children, they are not my friends. So you readily admit that you have no friends. |
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WTF > wrote in news:qpohq5p898ppg154hupue3q3s13su2abj9@
4ax.com: > What else could it of been? You pour your family's dirty laundry into > an open usenet newsgroups, are you so obtuse that you thought you'd > not get comments? If that is the case, then you're sorely ignorant > about the ways of usenet. I'd bet just ignorant. Obviously you have a very narrow view of social relations. Oh well. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:54:08 -0700, "Steve B" > > wrote: > >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:19:34 -0700, "Steve B" >> > > wrote: >> > >> >> Probably some Shaken Baby Syndrome at work there, too. What you have >> >> described is abuse. If you did nothing when that was taking place, >> >> then >> >> you >> >> are also guilty of abuse. >> > >> > I see you're just as judgmental about this one as you are about the` >> > Michel, situation. When there is no physical evidence, it's a waste >> > of time for anyone to call CPS. We did not witness physical abuse, >> > only mental abuse and a certain amount of neglect. That's why she >> > isn't part of the family anymore and doesn't have custody of her >> > child. >> > >> > -- >> > Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. >> >> Let's see ........... your exact words: >> >> > Looking "inside" yourself can be taken too far. There are people like >> > my ex-DIL who didn't have a nurturing bone in her body. The way she >> > dealt with a crying *infant* was to hold him in front of her with arms >> > straight out yelling at him to stop crying. He wasn't allowed to feel >> > or express emotion and he is still scarred by that. >> >> You say nothing of intervening. You obviously don't think much of the >> child >> to let it be treated that way. But if you did that, it might cause >> "problems" with the mom, right? You witnessed "only mental abuse and a >> certain amount of neglect"? Too bad your lack of spinal column prevented >> you from helping the child. >> > I said mom is an ex and her son stayed with his dad. Too bad you > can't read between the lines - but it figures because you refer to > dead people as "ex" wives. I don't read you any longer. Do I call you an "ex"? Steve, no need to reply |
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![]() "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message ... > "Steve B" > wrote in news:qstm77-srs1.ln1 > @news.infowest.com: > >> Care to know any more >> facts, or do you have further comments on things you know nothing about? > > Same goes for you Steverino. So, you are dismissing me? That I know nothing about life or life experiences? You can not discuss the issues, so you go for the emotional? Steve |
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![]() "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message ... > "Steve B" > wrote in news:3dum77-pst1.ln1 > @news.infowest.com: > >>> Having "rules" is what causes teenage pregnancies and drug abuse among >>> young people. >> >> Funny, I'd say the opposite is true. Lack of rules is what causes that. > > Statistics fail to support your unwarranted assumption. > Statistics can be found to support any conclusion. Steve |
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![]() "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message ... > WTF > wrote in news:aeihq5diihg991p5d1kb0nlp9ramv3co7j@ > 4ax.com: > >> Come on people, leave him alone as it's Michel who has this mess and >> none of us thank god. He asked for input into a personal family >> matter which was inappropriate and he knows it, did he expect rational >> replies? > > Did I ask for input? I don't recall doing that. > Oh. Right. You were just spewing. Sorry. Steve |
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![]() "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message ... > WTF > wrote in news:rrmhq55mtvnjno63fk0oil9raegg7prgt4@ > 4ax.com: > >> ->If you think (for some godsforsaken reason) that I'm being unfair to >> ->her, let me just say that my wife is also looking forward to the day >> ->we get our house back. >> >> The implication that you wanted comments certainly was here. > > I don't see that and anyway, it certainly wasn't my intent to solicit > opinions by writing that. In fact it was more of a pre-emptive comment to > those who would have called me unfair, attempting to allay their > suspicions > that it might be only me. The simple fact is that it worked. So it was > NOT an invitation to opinion. > Michael, can you define "it" for us? Steve |
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![]() "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message ... > WTF > wrote in news:qpohq5p898ppg154hupue3q3s13su2abj9@ > 4ax.com: > >> What else could it of been? You pour your family's dirty laundry into >> an open usenet newsgroups, are you so obtuse that you thought you'd >> not get comments? If that is the case, then you're sorely ignorant >> about the ways of usenet. I'd bet just ignorant. > > Obviously you have a very narrow view of social relations. Oh well. We all have failed to notice the obvious. I wonder how the stepdaughter feels about leaving Michael's company. I bet that would be an interesting post. Steve |
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![]() "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message ... > WTF > wrote in news:qpohq5p898ppg154hupue3q3s13su2abj9@ > 4ax.com: > >> What else could it of been? You pour your family's dirty laundry into >> an open usenet newsgroups, are you so obtuse that you thought you'd >> not get comments? If that is the case, then you're sorely ignorant >> about the ways of usenet. I'd bet just ignorant. > > Obviously you have a very narrow view of social relations. Oh well. > Will someone stick a fork in Michael? He's done. Steve |
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"Steve B" > wrote in
: >>> Care to know any more >>> facts, or do you have further comments on things you know nothing >>> about? >> >> Same goes for you Steverino. > > So, you are dismissing me? That I know nothing about life or life > experiences? Yes, that I know nothing about my life or my life experiences? > You can not discuss the issues, so you go for the emotional? I am not an issue. If you insist on discussing issues, start your own thread and don't gank mine. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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"Steve B" > wrote in news:318n77-r2s2.ln1
@news.infowest.com: >> Statistics fail to support your unwarranted assumption. > > Statistics can be found to support any conclusion. Including correct ones. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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"Steve B" > wrote in news:f28n77-u3s2.ln1
@news.infowest.com: > You were just spewing. Venting. Conservatives spew, I vent. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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"Steve B" > wrote in news:e58n77-0hs2.ln1
@news.infowest.com: > Michael, can you define "it" for us? Who's Michael? -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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"Steve B" > wrote in news:hb8n77-7ns2.ln1
@news.infowest.com: > Will someone stick a fork in Michael? He's done. Again, who is this Michael person? -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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Michel Boucher > wrote in
: >> So, you are dismissing me? That I know nothing about life or life >> experiences? > > Yes, that I know nothing about my life or my life experiences? Correction: > Yes, that you know nothing about my life or my life experiences? -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:22:57 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote: > WTF > wrote in news:hlmhq5lhv1i3ic27eltagbg0emlng78bdr@ > 4ax.com: > > >>Did I ask for input? I don't recall doing that. > > > > Check your original post > > It was a rhetorical question. I did not ask for input. Find me where I > asked for input. You didn't. It was obviously an anecdote. -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:01:07 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote: > WTF > wrote in news:qpohq5p898ppg154hupue3q3s13su2abj9@ > 4ax.com: > > > What else could it of been? You pour your family's dirty laundry into > > an open usenet newsgroups, are you so obtuse that you thought you'd > > not get comments? If that is the case, then you're sorely ignorant > > about the ways of usenet. I'd bet just ignorant. > > Obviously you have a very narrow view of social relations. Oh well. Consider the source. WTF is in the PVC category. -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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Michel Boucher wrote:
> "Steve B" > wrote in news:f28n77-u3s2.ln1 > @news.infowest.com: > >> You were just spewing. > > Venting. Conservatives spew, I vent. > Having read a lot of this thread, here is my only comment. Life is complex. You and your wife obviously know more about the situation, the needs of your stepdaughter than folks here do. I wouldn't presume to judge you as others have done at length. That is all. -- Jean B. |
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sf > wrote in news:qtthq55ktrie3qoov5o2ourk399t54bbna@
4ax.com: > Consider the source. WTF is in the PVC category. PVC? Polyvinyl chloride better known as Poly(chloroethanediyl)? Permanent virtual circuit? Param Vir Chakra (gallantry award; India)? -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-E30CA3.10204523032010@c-61-
68-245-199.per.connect.net.au: > I'm sure you expected comments. Perhaps you > were surprised at the vehemence of those comments. Perhaps not. I was a bit taken aback by those who wanted to use my post as a platform for rolling the centuries back to the stone age. And I never like seeing ad hominems, whether directed at me or anyone else. -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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"Jean B." > wrote in :
> Having read a lot of this thread, here is my only comment. Life > is complex. You and your wife obviously know more about the > situation, the needs of your stepdaughter than folks here do. I > wouldn't presume to judge you as others have done at length. That > is all. In the words of the immortal Hunter: Works for me :-) -- "The officer corps will forgive anything they can understand, which makes intelligence the only sin." Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16 |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:34:51 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote: >> George Leppla wrote: >> >>> >>> When I was young I decided I would not have any children because I >>> knew I would not have been a good father. People told me I would live >>> to regret that decision, but I am 60 now and they were wrong..... no >>> regrets at all. >>> >>> Congratulations on your impending freedom. >> >> When I was young I was not interested in having kids, hence our kid's >> only child status. Sometimes I wish we had had more. I have a great >> relationship with my son. > > There are a lot of people who have good relationships with their > children and I am truly happy for them. But my own parents had some > serious problems and when I was young, I didn't have the skills, > experience or temperament to be a good parent. If I would have had > children, they (and I) would have had a tough time of it. > > It appears to me that children can be the source of a parent's greatest > joy..... or greatest sorrow. > > George L i am childless also, but it seems to me that whether or not to have kids is the kind of decision where (in retrospect) you can't help but feeling you made the right one. unless you're lizzie borden's parents. your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:38:52 -0400, George wrote:
> On 3/21/2010 5:53 PM, Michel Boucher wrote: >> > wrote in - >> september.org: >> >>> Sorry, I was thinking of the other "Michel Boucher" who constantly >>> expresses very left leaning opinions. >> >> Left-leaning is insulting to those of us who are truly on the left and not >> just leaning. > > OK, what should we called you? Failed example of liberal ideas? > >> >>> And I'll bet you didn't realize that since you asked for opinions in a >>> public forum you will get them. >> >> Perhaps I was not soliciting opinions but merely venting. If you can't >> contribute, **** off. >> > > Sounds like I totally nailed it. You came here looking for everyone to > blow smoke up your rear with "poor widdle Michel, It just isn't your > fault..." > > Some ideas just aren't workable. You got a personal lesson. obviously, he should have put the kid out on an ice floe. blake |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:33:33 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:
> Michel Boucher wrote: >>> George > wrote: >>> >>> > I'll bet you don't realize it but your experience is a perfect >>> > illustration why many liberal ideas simply don't work. Giving people >>> > "free stuff" with no rules and no expectations simply doesn't work. >>> > "Tough love" isn't easy but it builds character and responsibility. >>> >> I bet you don't realize it, but I don't really care a fig about your >> opinion. > > Of course you care, you care about everyones opinion, why else did you > post your personal soap opera drivel here?!?!? That you disagree > with those whose opinion disagrees with your opinion of yourself is > obviously the reason why your step daughter abuses you and herself... > if you grew a spine perhaps your step daughter would grow a consience. > By pointing out an obvious flaw in your parenting George offered > excellent constructive advice... the most critical aspect of parenting > is setting boundaries, you failed miserably... if you weren't the > epitomy of douchebaggery that you are you'd have thanked him. why did your wife leave you, sheldon? blake |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:46:24 -0400, Janet wrote:
> Michel Boucher wrote: > <snip> > > Nothing she has done is a vicious and unwarranted as sharing details of > someone's private life in a public forum in this manner. > > I can only hope that this is your idea of a joke. um, what 'details'? 'my stepdaughter'? i'm sure that will affect her credit rating. your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:10:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Janet" > wrote in message > ... >> Michel Boucher wrote: >> <snip> >> >> Nothing she has done is a vicious and unwarranted as sharing details of >> someone's private life in a public forum in this manner. >> >> I can only hope that this is your idea of a joke. >> >> > > My guess it is 100% genuine. Most of us have a similar tale to tell about a > family member. I'm happy for him. Maybe even a bit jealous since she is > moving out. Want to hear about my grandson? whoa, a new bumper-sticker in the making! 'ask me about my no-good grandchildren'! i smell big sales potential here. your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:21:06 -0500, Ms P wrote:
> "critters & me in azusa, ca" > wrote in message > ... >> On Mar 21, 9:10 am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote: >>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>> >>> ... >>> >>> > Michel Boucher wrote: >>> > <snip> >>> >>> > Nothing she has done is a vicious and unwarranted as sharing details of >>> > someone's private life in a public forum in this manner. >>> >>> > I can only hope that this is your idea of a joke. >>> >>> My guess it is 100% genuine. Most of us have a similar tale to tell >>> about a >>> family member. I'm happy for him. Maybe even a bit jealous since she is >>> moving out. Want to hear about my grandson? >> >> and I can give you tales about my 35 year old son... >> >> harriet & critters > > My oldest son ran away and joined the carnival. When he was 28. > > Ms P i hope he had a good time. your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:21:06 -0500, Ms P wrote:
> "critters & me in azusa, ca" > wrote in message > ... >> On Mar 21, 9:10 am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote: >>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>> >>> ... >>> >>> > Michel Boucher wrote: >>> > <snip> >>> >>> > Nothing she has done is a vicious and unwarranted as sharing details of >>> > someone's private life in a public forum in this manner. >>> >>> > I can only hope that this is your idea of a joke. >>> >>> My guess it is 100% genuine. Most of us have a similar tale to tell >>> about a >>> family member. I'm happy for him. Maybe even a bit jealous since she is >>> moving out. Want to hear about my grandson? >> >> and I can give you tales about my 35 year old son... >> >> harriet & critters > > My oldest son ran away and joined the carnival. When he was 28. > > Ms P shee-it. when i was twenty-eight, the carnival ran away and joined *me*. your pal, blake |
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:40:50 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote: > sf > wrote in news:qtthq55ktrie3qoov5o2ourk399t54bbna@ > 4ax.com: > > > Consider the source. WTF is in the PVC category. > > PVC? Polyvinyl chloride better known as Poly(chloroethanediyl)? > Permanent virtual circuit? Param Vir Chakra (gallantry award; India)? If you don't know, consider yourself lucky. -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:09:33 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message > > from Omelet > contains these words: > >> In article >, >> "Janet" > wrote: > >>> Michel Boucher wrote: >>> > Omelet > wrote in >>> > news ![]() >>> > >>> >> I have a feeling that many of us have tales to tell... >>> > >>> > Not Janet, it seems. >>> >>> No, I simply would not reveal family disagreements in an internet >>> newsgroup >>> available to millions of random strangers. > >> Just consider it to be a giant support group. :-) > > Support groups usually include a privacy/confidentiality clause. > The internet could hardly be more public or less discreet. > >> It's not much different than what I posted about dad earlier tonight. I >> did that in hopes I could help others with elderly parents etc. > > It is different, in that you aren't using your real life ID so your > family's privacy is protected. . Maybe Michel is also using a false > ID; > but if he's not then what he's written about his family, is archived in > public for her, her child , his neighbours, the BF and ex.. etc... > to find and read; which could have consequences for his family > relationships. > > put "Michel Boucher step daughter" into google, to see how easy that is. > > > Janet o.k., i just did. with quotes, it turned up four hits, all to this thread on this newsgroup. yep, he totally destroyed her privacy. your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:47:20 -0600, Omelet wrote:
> In article >, > Michel Boucher > wrote: > > <snipped> > >> So she is moving back into the house we bought for her and her daughter >> to live in (the BF is guaranteeing the rent and he is good for it) and >> she will be taking in roommates. Also, the BF will be back up from New >> York permanently in September. >> >> If you think (for some godsforsaken reason) that I'm being unfair to her, >> let me just say that my wife is also looking forward to the day we get >> our house back. >> > > My gods... and I thought that _I_ was generous with the crap I've put up > with in the past from long term house guests! > > My heart goes out to you. :-) > > I hope it all works out in the long run and your generosity does not > hurt you _too_ much! > > It's one of the reasons we (my family and I) used to prefer doing > wildlife rescue to human charities. I _expected_ to be bitten by the > creatures I helped. <g> <snort> If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. - pudd'nhead wilson (i.e., mark twain) your pal, blake |
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"Jean B." > wrote: > Michel Boucher wrote: > > "Steve B" > wrote in news:f28n77-u3s2.ln1 > > @news.infowest.com: > > > >> You were just spewing. > > > > Venting. Conservatives spew, I vent. > > > Having read a lot of this thread, here is my only comment. Life > is complex. You and your wife obviously know more about the > situation, the needs of your stepdaughter than folks here do. I > wouldn't presume to judge you as others have done at length. That > is all. Thanks, Jean. I was trying to figure out how to say that. This is a complicated, long term situation. I think it's appropriate to comment, but to judge, or give unwanted, simplistic advice without knowing the complexities doesn't seem helpful. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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