Damaeus wrote:
> Omelet > posted:
>
>> Squirrels eat acorns too and the tanins are toxic. They have to be water
>> processed before eating them. Get a field guide to local edible plants.
>> It'd be safer!
>
> Squirrels evolved eating lots of acorns. If we had eaten them for a time,
> they wouldn't be poisonous, but might still taste like crap.

I've read how to leach the bitter out of acorns to be able to dry it and
use it as flour. More work than leaching the bitter out of olives.

I have a simpler way to eat acorns. Let the squirrels eat them. I like
squirrel over a camp fire. Shot fresh and skinned today. Nothing but
the fire and a bit of worchestershire sauce. Yum. Acorns delux!

> I've heard
> that we can eat onions, but onions are toxic to cats. I dropped a piece
> of white onion on the floor. One of the cats walked up to it, sniffed it,
> then squinted her eyes and backed away, even doing her head side to side
> like she was saying "No way!"

On a recent episode of Good Eats, Alton Brown mentioned that onions are
bad for dogs as well.

In article >,
"James Silverton" > wrote:

> I'm told there are red oaks and white oaks and one type has very bitter
> acorns. The difference does not seem to bother the local tree rats.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton

Never stops the ones around here either. We have post oak and white oak.
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In article >,
Doug Freyburger > wrote:

> > Squirrels evolved eating lots of acorns. If we had eaten them for a time,
> > they wouldn't be poisonous, but might still taste like crap.
>
> I've read how to leach the bitter out of acorns to be able to dry it and
> use it as flour. More work than leaching the bitter out of olives.
>
> I have a simpler way to eat acorns. Let the squirrels eat them. I like
> squirrel over a camp fire. Shot fresh and skinned today. Nothing but
> the fire and a bit of worchestershire sauce. Yum. Acorns delux!

Never tried eating squirrel that way. My favorite way is to skin, clean
and quarter them, then fry them in a little butter and olive oil with
lemon pepper. They are remarkably delicious little things! Mom used to
stew them.

Second hand acorns. <g> Good concept!
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Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>>> Here it is called "BT". I've planned on trying it as it's also supposed
>>> to be good for tomato hornworms. Just never gotten around to it yet.
>>> Did it work for you?
>> Absolutely, yes. As it gradually cools here, I'm seeing less and less of
>> the cabbage moths/grubs appear, but still spraying until if/when they go
>> altogether. I doubt they could survive our winters though (Moved to
>> Tasmania early 2008, so still learning how such things work here).
>>
>> I also use the Dipel cutlure on my cherries, pears - and now - plum and
>> prune trees to combat sawfly larvae - they look like little leeches.
>> They sure can make a mess of the foliage on young trees! Anyway, the
>> Dipel *does* have a significant impact on the sawfly larvae as well,
>> although by no means completely kills them like it does to the cabbage
>> grubs.
>
> Very good, thanks!
> I want to try growing more chard again and the cabbage worms go after it
> too. It's my favorite green.

Yeah, I have a lot of Rainbow Chard here as well, plus good 'ol English
Spinach. Those, along with Kale, are pretty much a staple here.

I don't have any insect problems with the chard or spinach - they might
take the odd nibble here and there, which isn't a problem IMO... in
fact, a little bit of insect attack on *organically grown plants*is
beneficial to both the plant and humans as it encourages the plant to
produce all sorts of chemicals as a defense - many of which are known to
fight cancer cells, etc. Plants sprayed with pesticides have no need to
produce these chemicals, so they don't.

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In article >,
Jeßus > wrote:

> > Very good, thanks!
> > I want to try growing more chard again and the cabbage worms go after it
> > too. It's my favorite green.
>
> Yeah, I have a lot of Rainbow Chard here as well, plus good 'ol English
> Spinach. Those, along with Kale, are pretty much a staple here.
>
> I don't have any insect problems with the chard or spinach - they might
> take the odd nibble here and there, which isn't a problem IMO... in
> fact, a little bit of insect attack on *organically grown plants*is
> beneficial to both the plant and humans as it encourages the plant to
> produce all sorts of chemicals as a defense - many of which are known to
> fight cancer cells, etc. Plants sprayed with pesticides have no need to
> produce these chemicals, so they don't.

That is interesting! I've never heard that before. Do you have a cite
for it? Not arguing, just curious about reading more about it. :-)

The only "pesticide" I would ever use on edible leafy greens would be
BT. I used to get home from work at dawn and just hand pick the little
*******s off of my plants.
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:59:12 +1100, Jeßus wrote:

> Damaeus wrote:
> <snip>
>> Liars are so unattractive. I hope Obama does not get voted back into
>> office in 2012.
>
> Problem is, it's just not possible to make it to being the official
> rep/dem candidate - let alone president - without being a liar... among
> other choice qualities. Which was the last president who wasn't? It's
> been quite a while...

you might have to settle for one who lies once in a while versus *every
****ing day*.

(which i think we did last time.)

your pal,
blake

On Mar 26, 3:08*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> *Jeßus > wrote:
> > > Very good, thanks!
> > > I want to try growing more chard again and the cabbage worms go after it
> > > too. *It's my favorite green.
>
> > Yeah, I have a lot of Rainbow Chard here as well, plus good 'ol English
> > Spinach. Those, along with Kale, are pretty much a staple here.
>
> > I don't have any insect problems with the chard or spinach - they might
> > take the odd nibble here and there, which isn't a problem IMO... in
> > fact, a little bit of insect attack on *organically grown plants*is
> > beneficial to both the plant and humans as it encourages the plant to
> > produce all sorts of chemicals as a defense - many of which are known to
> > fight cancer cells, etc. Plants sprayed with pesticides have no need to
> > produce these chemicals, so they don't.
>
> That is interesting! *I've never heard that before. *Do you have a cite
> for it? *Not arguing, just curious about reading more about it. :-)
>
> The only "pesticide" I would ever use on edible leafy greens would be
> BT. *I used to get home from work at dawn and just hand pick the little
> *******s off of my plants.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
> "We're all adults here, except for those of us who aren't." --Blake Murphy

If you have chickens you can let them into the garden and they will
eat all the bugs and cabbage worms for you.

In article
>,
ImStillMags > wrote:

> If you have chickens you can let them into the garden and they will
> eat all the bugs and cabbage worms for you.

Yeah, and they will also scratch/dig up and eat ALL of your garden
plants! Would that it were that easy. Chickens and gardens are NOT
compatible!
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:55:51 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article
>,
> ImStillMags > wrote:
>
>> If you have chickens you can let them into the garden and they will
>> eat all the bugs and cabbage worms for you.
>
>Yeah, and they will also scratch/dig up and eat ALL of your garden
>plants! Would that it were that easy. Chickens and gardens are NOT
>compatible!
Oh my, I totally agree. We have flocks of wild chickens and they love
to scratch near any plant. Pretty soon, plant looks the worse for
wear. We've used some of those ugly orange hurricane fences to
separate the wild fowl from our garden.

Only problem with the wild chickens now- is that are so beautiful and
we are suckers for them. Mrs. Cluck (drats) waits at the back door
(!) for the bird feeder -high in the tree- to be filled and then she
and her 4 "kids"sit patiently below, waiting for the wild birds to
flick them out. We once had over 50 wild chickens, got a Border
Collie who chased them all away and omigod, we have now managed to
teach the Border Collie to respect Mrs. Cluck and "kids" and we are
nuts again. Sadly.

aloha,
Cea

In article >,
pure kona > wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:55:51 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article
> >,
> > ImStillMags > wrote:
> >
> >> If you have chickens you can let them into the garden and they will
> >> eat all the bugs and cabbage worms for you.
> >
> >Yeah, and they will also scratch/dig up and eat ALL of your garden
> >plants! Would that it were that easy. Chickens and gardens are NOT
> >compatible!
> Oh my, I totally agree. We have flocks of wild chickens and they love
> to scratch near any plant. Pretty soon, plant looks the worse for
> wear. We've used some of those ugly orange hurricane fences to
> separate the wild fowl from our garden.
>
> Only problem with the wild chickens now- is that are so beautiful and
> we are suckers for them. Mrs. Cluck (drats) waits at the back door
> (!) for the bird feeder -high in the tree- to be filled and then she
> and her 4 "kids"sit patiently below, waiting for the wild birds to
> flick them out. We once had over 50 wild chickens, got a Border
> Collie who chased them all away and omigod, we have now managed to
> teach the Border Collie to respect Mrs. Cluck and "kids" and we are
> nuts again. Sadly.
>
> aloha,
> Cea

Wild game birds are survivors, and yes, they are beautiful, and
personable. ;-) I miss my chickens. My favorites were my cochin
bantams.
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Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>>> Very good, thanks!
>>> I want to try growing more chard again and the cabbage worms go after it
>>> too. It's my favorite green.
>> Yeah, I have a lot of Rainbow Chard here as well, plus good 'ol English
>> Spinach. Those, along with Kale, are pretty much a staple here.
>>
>> I don't have any insect problems with the chard or spinach - they might
>> take the odd nibble here and there, which isn't a problem IMO... in
>> fact, a little bit of insect attack on *organically grown plants*is
>> beneficial to both the plant and humans as it encourages the plant to
>> produce all sorts of chemicals as a defense - many of which are known to
>> fight cancer cells, etc. Plants sprayed with pesticides have no need to
>> produce these chemicals, so they don't.
>
> That is interesting! I've never heard that before. Do you have a cite
> for it? Not arguing, just curious about reading more about it. :-)

I'll do my best - I've needed to find a reference to this previously and
had no luck locating anything online.
Plus, my connection is being a right PITA today (the joys of satellite
Internet).
But I'll do my best later to find it, as I could use the reference myself.

> The only "pesticide" I would ever use on edible leafy greens would be
> BT. I used to get home from work at dawn and just hand pick the little
> *******s off of my plants.

Yep, hand picking is the way to go and I too wouldn't use anything else
other than BT, although for other problems you can make some safe
soap-based sprays.


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In article >,
Jeßus > wrote:

> > The only "pesticide" I would ever use on edible leafy greens would be
> > BT. I used to get home from work at dawn and just hand pick the little
> > *******s off of my plants.
>
> Yep, hand picking is the way to go and I too wouldn't use anything else
> other than BT, although for other problems you can make some safe
> soap-based sprays.

That's for mealy bug, scale and white flies.

The best thing I ever used to get rid of scale on cactus was lacewing
larvae. ;-) Bought the eggs from a local nursery and it worked like a
charm.
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