sf > wrote in news:h522r55u30o8olqqis9uj6ga9ieih26a2n@
4ax.com:

>> Britain's population is 62 million.
>
> A drop in the bucket.

Some bucket...some drop! (with apologies to Winston Churchill)

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

Janet Baraclough > wrote in
:

>> > Britain's population is 62 million.
>
>> A drop in the bucket.
>
> You think so?
>
> Despite the vast size of your country's land area in proportion to
> mine, the population of the US is only five times greater than
> Britain's.

Therein lies the delusion. USAians generally believe they can whup anyone
except them thar heathen Chinee. What they don't realize is that they only
represent 6.5% of the world's population.

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

sf > wrote in
:

>> You know, you can be really annoying when you decide to play the
>> jingoistic card.
>
> Annoying is the best I can do? Gotta try harder.

This I have to see.

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

sf > wrote in news:7922r5phb13t39ctlunc4acq3ccltvk7cj@
4ax.com:

>> > He's just another flash in the pan and a foreigner to boot.
>>
>> Only a foreigner to you. Time to think outside the tiny box.
>
> He needs to stay home and preach there.

Why? Are you so benighted that you cannot learn from others? Obviously
that is not the case. So you are posturing or low on meds.

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:42 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

> sf > wrote in news:7922r5phb13t39ctlunc4acq3ccltvk7cj@
> 4ax.com:
>
> >> > He's just another flash in the pan and a foreigner to boot.
> >>
> >> Only a foreigner to you. Time to think outside the tiny box.
> >
> > He needs to stay home and preach there.
>
> Why? Are you so benighted that you cannot learn from others? Obviously
> that is not the case. So you are posturing or low on meds.



1. I can't stand his lisp, therefore I will not listen to anything he
says.
2. Take a look at the system. It's not going to change.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:48:43 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:07:20 -0500, Michel Boucher
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > sf > wrote in news:9krvq59is1gkuunafdpqe6gd5tdd9a5u5f@
> > > 4ax.com:
> > >
> > > >> He changed the whole school lunch program in Britain..and legislation
> > > >> was passed based on what he did there to improve the British school
> > > >> lunch program.
> > > >
> > > > Let's see.... England is the size of Oregon. Yep. He has his work
> > > > cut out for him.
> > >
> > > You know, you can be really annoying when you decide to play the jingoistic
> > > card.
> >
> > Annoying is the best I can do? Gotta try harder.
>
> That was pretty good, though:
>
> UK population is 60 million.
> England is 46 million.
> Oregon is 3 million.

Do you really think that funny looking little Brit with a lisp (god, I
can *not* stand to listen to him talk) here to do anything other than
pump up his television ratings? Good luck. Ain't gonna happen.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

sf > wrote in
:

>> Why? Are you so benighted that you cannot learn from others?
>> Obviously that is not the case. So you are posturing or low on meds.
>
> 1. I can't stand his lisp, therefore I will not listen to anything he
> says.
> 2. Take a look at the system. It's not going to change.

Are you correlating your failure with his lisp? And it's not a lisp. It's
an Essex accent spoken with a condition known as tongue thrust which is
characterized by a lateral lisp, being as air is forced out the sides of
the tongue, not unlike when one says "-ll-" in Welsh. You REALLY need to
get out more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue_thrust

He us also dyslexic. Want to say something crude about that too?

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:25:16 -0700, Arri London >
> wrote:
>
> > Local
> > school boards have been trying, so there's nothing new there.
>
> If local school boards had been trying it would have happened. They
> are the ones who are responsible.
>
>

It is happening in many school districts. Jamie obviously isn't going to
pick any of those, is he? It wouldn't have any publicity impact for him.

Michel Boucher wrote:
>
> sf > wrote in news:fivvq59fh484udrc5grp2nj83kp95p4tb7@
> 4ax.com:
>
> >> Local
> >> school boards have been trying, so there's nothing new there.
> >
> > If local school boards had been trying it would have happened. They
> > are the ones who are responsible.
>
> She's talking about matters in the UK. You need to follow the thread here
> :-)
>
> --
>


No, also talking about school boards in the US (where I am at the
moment). It's been on the news over and over. Jamie isn't doing anything
new or unusual. Just making it more public.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:10:54 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

>"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in
:
>
>>> Her organizers felt that her appearance in Ottawa placed her life in
>>> danger, or to put it another way, they could get more press if they
>>> pretended to be afraid and backed out, claiming they wuz robbed!,
>>> than going through with the presentation and risking the audience
>>> might ask tough geography questions.
>>
>> Has Coulter been shown as geographically-challenged, or are you
>> confusing her with Sarah Palin?
>
>It's my experience that although not all USAian adults are geographically
>challenged, the most geographically challenged adults are usually USAians.

I suspect we could find the same thing in Russia or China. Any really
large country is going to have that problem. The people inside the
country don't have to deal with other countries on a normal basis so
they tend to be somewhat insular. But in places like countries of
Europe it's normal for citizens of one country to deal with citizens
of another on a regular basis or even visit other countries. That
tends to broaden their horizons.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:33:48 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

> Are you correlating your failure with his lisp? And it's not a lisp. It's
> an Essex accent spoken with a condition known as tongue thrust which is
> characterized by a lateral lisp, being as air is forced out the sides of
> the tongue, not unlike when one says "-ll-" in Welsh.

I hate the way he talks. It's a lisp. If the entire region lisps
then it's genetic.

>You REALLY need to get out more.

No, I don't.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

shawn > wrote in
:

> Any really
> large country is going to have that problem. The people inside the
> country don't have to deal with other countries on a normal basis so
> they tend to be somewhat insular.

Canada is a large country and I suspect its citizens generally have a
better grasp of geography than their neighbours to the south.

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

sf > wrote in
:

> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:33:48 -0500, Michel Boucher
> > wrote:
>
>> Are you correlating your failure with his lisp? And it's not a lisp.
>> It's an Essex accent spoken with a condition known as tongue thrust
>> which is characterized by a lateral lisp, being as air is forced out
>> the sides of the tongue, not unlike when one says "-ll-" in Welsh.
>
> I hate the way he talks. It's a lisp. If the entire region lisps
> then it's genetic.

*sigh*

I didn't say the Welsh suffered from tongue thrust. I said it was like
producing the "ll" sound in Welsh. His condition (if you read the annexed
link) is generally caused by teeth that were not given the benefit of
orthodontistry, perhaps in his case because his parents couldn't afford it
or the need was not obvious.

>>You REALLY need to get out more.
>
> No, I don't.

*double sigh* The more you protest, the more it is obvious you would
benefit greatly from it, and suffer greatly from the lack of it.

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

shawn wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:10:54 -0500, Michel Boucher
> > wrote:
>
>> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>> Her organizers felt that her appearance in Ottawa placed her life in
>>>> danger, or to put it another way, they could get more press if they
>>>> pretended to be afraid and backed out, claiming they wuz robbed!,
>>>> than going through with the presentation and risking the audience
>>>> might ask tough geography questions.
>>> Has Coulter been shown as geographically-challenged, or are you
>>> confusing her with Sarah Palin?
>> It's my experience that although not all USAian adults are geographically
>> challenged, the most geographically challenged adults are usually USAians.
>
> I suspect we could find the same thing in Russia or China. Any really
> large country is going to have that problem. The people inside the
> country don't have to deal with other countries on a normal basis so
> they tend to be somewhat insular. But in places like countries of
> Europe it's normal for citizens of one country to deal with citizens
> of another on a regular basis or even visit other countries. That
> tends to broaden their horizons.


It has nothing to do with the size of the nation and everything to do
with its educational system. You won't find the same kind of ignorance
in Canada, the second largest nation in the world. I was taught where
every nation is, what its capital is and major features like rivers and
mountain ranges as well as its climate and major industry. (My nieces
are learning this now in the middle grades).

Heck, we could name all fifty US states and their capitals...I've yet to
meet an American (who didn't have the internet at their fingertips) who
could name all ten provinces, three territories...let alone name their
capitals.

I've even met Americans who couldn't even name their own fifty states.

;]

--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.

clouddreamer > wrote in
:

> I've even met Americans who couldn't even name their own fifty states.

It's not funny to laugh at the disadvantaged, you should know that :-)

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

Michel Boucher wrote:
> clouddreamer > wrote in
> :
>
>> I've even met Americans who couldn't even name their own fifty states.
>
> It's not funny to laugh at the disadvantaged, you should know that :-)
>


Oh c'mon...even you would laugh if you met a Texan who thought that
Maine was a Canadian province.

;]

--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.

clouddreamer > wrote in
m:

>> It's not funny to laugh at the disadvantaged, you should know that :-)
>
> Oh c'mon...even you would laugh if you met a Texan who thought that
> Maine was a Canadian province.

More likely the other way around, that Nova Scotia is an island off the
coast of Maine, but they don;t know where and couldn't point to it on a
map. I loved those old National Lampoon bits about US preconceived notions
about Canada. Then came Rick Mercer and the Talking to Americans segment.

Try asking them where the Klondike is, or Campobello Island.

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

"clouddreamer" > wrote:

> shawn wrote:
>> I suspect we could find the same thing in Russia or China. Any really
>> large country is going to have that problem. The people inside the
>> country don't have to deal with other countries on a normal basis so
>> they tend to be somewhat insular. But in places like countries of
>> Europe it's normal for citizens of one country to deal with citizens
>> of another on a regular basis or even visit other countries. That
>> tends to broaden their horizons.

Correct. Learning all the countries in Europe or Africa would be about the
same as learning all the states in the USA. The states in the USA are of
similar size and GDP to many of those countries.

> It has nothing to do with the size of the nation and everything to do with
> its educational system. You won't find the same kind of ignorance in
> Canada,

Giggle.

> the second largest nation in the world. I was taught where every nation
> is, what its capital is and major features like rivers and mountain ranges
> as well as its climate and major industry. (My nieces are learning this
> now in the middle grades).

Likely, about half of what she is learning is different than what you
learned. Lots more/different countries, capitals/mountain ranges/rivers
have been renamed. Industries have changed as well. To some extent,
people's knowledge of these things is hinged directly to how recently they
were in school, not to how good their education was at the time.

> Heck, we could name all fifty US states and their capitals...I've yet to
> meet an American (who didn't have the internet at their fingertips) who
> could name all ten provinces, three territories...let alone name their
> capitals.

People only learn important stuff. Learning the provinces of Canada is of
no more importance than learning the territories in Australia. learn it
long enough to pass the test, then purge the info so that there is room for
Seinfeld trivia.

> I've even met Americans who couldn't even name their own fifty states.

More than 50% of people in Florida can't even name the capital of Florida or
find their state on the map.

In all seriousness, though, knowing the capital of the USA isn't any more
important than knowing the capital of Ontario isn't any more important than
knowing the capital of India isn't any more important than knowing the
capital of Florida isn't any more important than knowing the borough seat of
Matanuska-Susitna Borough, Alaska. It is all just trivia and only has real
value in how it helps you interact with others. In that respect, the
Seinfeld trivia is probably more valuable.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:52:47 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:

> The message >
> from blake murphy > contains these words:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:24:55 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
>>> The message
>>> >
>>> from "Bent Attorney Esq." > contains
>>> these words:
>>>
>>>> On Mar 28, 6:28*pm, Michel Boucher > wrote:
>>>>> clouddreamer > wrote
>>>>> innews:VL2dneRG_d4fVDLWnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@supernews. com:
>>>>>
>>>>> >> That shows where the students are at. *Not much character there. *Had
>>>>> >> they wanted to make a point they should have challenged her to a
>>>>> >> 'civilized' debate. *She would have lost, and rightly so.
>>>>>
>>>>> > You honestly think Coulter would have actually tried to engage in a
>>>>> > reasonable debate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite right. *Ann Coulter has never engaged in a civilized debate in her
>>>>> life. *Saying that you can engage her in a civilized debate is either
>>>>> arrogance or igfnorance...don't know which, don't care.
>>>>>
>>>>> > So the students did the one thing they could. They protested.
>>>>>
>>>>> As is their right in a society where free speech is a fundamental
>>>>> principle.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> As is Coulter's right in a society where free speech is a fundamental
>>>> principle.
>>>
>>> Free speech doesn't give her the right to spout it in places and
>>> communities that don't want to host her.
>>>
>>> Janet
>
>> well, some part of that 'community' must have invited her (i.e., offered to
>> pay her a fee - i don't think la coulter does much for free). some other
>> part of the community isn't keen on the idea.
>
> Pretty common for students to protest against some faculty decision

sure. but should administrators cave to every protest?

>> but the idea that free speech is only permitted in communities that welcome
>> it negates the whole concept.
>
> I don't agree. IMO someone is perfectly entitled to say " in my
> home, classroom, business premises, operating theatre, temple etc,
> the following
> topics/words/insults to my religion/dog/ nose are not permitted ".
>
>> suppose the chancellor or whoever it was said 'we don't cotton to those
>> kind of ideas coming from outside agitators' - what would you think then?
>
> ? Universities DO ban certain speakers because their topics or
> opinions are judged too controversial, offensive or likely to incite a
> riot. Its hardly new.
> http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/3...ns-bill-ayers/
>
> Janet

then those universities are not really the centers of free inquiry that
they purport to be.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:15:42 -0400, "Obveeus" > wrote:

>
>"clouddreamer" > wrote:
>
>> shawn wrote:
>>> I suspect we could find the same thing in Russia or China. Any really
>>> large country is going to have that problem. The people inside the
>>> country don't have to deal with other countries on a normal basis so
>>> they tend to be somewhat insular. But in places like countries of
>>> Europe it's normal for citizens of one country to deal with citizens
>>> of another on a regular basis or even visit other countries. That
>>> tends to broaden their horizons.
>
>Correct. Learning all the countries in Europe or Africa would be about the
>same as learning all the states in the USA. The states in the USA are of
>similar size and GDP to many of those countries.

And while we didn't have to learn all of the countries in Africa I can
certainly recall it being brought up back when I was a wee lad. It's
also something that can be difficult to keep straight over the years
as the lines move and countries are renamed.

>> It has nothing to do with the size of the nation and everything to do with
>> its educational system. You won't find the same kind of ignorance in
>> Canada,
>
>Giggle.

As you laugh I dare say you are right. You can find the same kind of
ignorance in any country. Even the smallest countries (such as
Luxemborg) in Europe will have people that are ignorant of important
facts about the countries around them. I would just expect it to be
less for a country that small since most people will constantly be
exposed to people from other countries let alone what they hear/see on
the radio/TV.

>> the second largest nation in the world. I was taught where every nation
>> is, what its capital is and major features like rivers and mountain ranges
>> as well as its climate and major industry. (My nieces are learning this
>> now in the middle grades).
>
>Likely, about half of what she is learning is different than what you
>learned. Lots more/different countries, capitals/mountain ranges/rivers
>have been renamed. Industries have changed as well. To some extent,
>people's knowledge of these things is hinged directly to how recently they
>were in school, not to how good their education was at the time.

I think every middle school covers this kind of knowledge during the
middle school years but how many people will recall that information
by the time they graduate? I dare say many kids won't remember it by
the end of the year after they study it because it just doesn't matter
to them.

>> Heck, we could name all fifty US states and their capitals...I've yet to
>> meet an American (who didn't have the internet at their fingertips) who
>> could name all ten provinces, three territories...let alone name their
>> capitals.
>
>People only learn important stuff. Learning the provinces of Canada is of
>no more importance than learning the territories in Australia. learn it
>long enough to pass the test, then purge the info so that there is room for
>Seinfeld trivia.

LOL. How true...
>
>> I've even met Americans who couldn't even name their own fifty states.
>
>More than 50% of people in Florida can't even name the capital of Florida or
>find their state on the map.

I wonder how many of those people just moved to Florida from some
other state/country? I'm not positive I could name all fifty states
in a single setting just because I don't use that information. Given
some time I could name them all (without looking it up) but since I
don't use that information it's not as fresh in my mind. Much like
that calculus I studied back in college.

>In all seriousness, though, knowing the capital of the USA isn't any more
>important than knowing the capital of Ontario isn't any more important than
>knowing the capital of India isn't any more important than knowing the
>capital of Florida isn't any more important than knowing the borough seat of
>Matanuska-Susitna Borough, Alaska. It is all just trivia and only has real
>value in how it helps you interact with others. In that respect, the
>Seinfeld trivia is probably more valuable.
>

Agreed. It's good to be exposed to other cultures but knowing all of
the details about the various countries really only has value if you
need to use that information. Since most people will never use it the
information tends to get forgotten over time.

On Mar 30, 10:07*am, Janet Baraclough >
wrote:
> The message >
> from sf > contains these words:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:42 -0500, Michel Boucher
> > > wrote:
> > > sf > wrote in news:7922r5phb13t39ctlunc4acq3ccltvk7cj@
> > > 4ax.com:
>
> > > >> > He's just another flash in the pan and a foreigner to boot.
>
> > > >> Only a foreigner to you. *Time to think outside the tiny box.
>
> > > > He needs to stay home and preach there.
>
> > > Why? *Are you so benighted that you cannot learn from others? *Obviously
> > > that is not the case. *So you are posturing or low on meds.
> > 1. *I can't stand his lisp, therefore I will not listen to anything he
> > says.
> > 2. *Take a look at the system. *It's not going to change.
>
> *Beats me how America ever got that reputation as *the richest *most
> powerful *most innovative *country in the entire world, *welcoming
> immigrants. etc......
>
> * * *Janet


There is no group in America that does not have its own epithet. If
there isn't well known a term that can't be used on television to
describe you, you are nobody in America.

(Pinstripe Sniper) wrote in news:4bb73499.4877640
@news.flex.com:

> Years ago I played Trivial Pursuit with my Canadian cousins. They had
> both the US and Canadian versions.

Trivial Pursuit was invented in Canada. Betcha you didn't know that!

"The game was created in 1979 by Canadian Scott Abbott, a sports editor for
The Canadian Press, and Chris Haney, a photo editor for Montreal's The
Gazette. After finding pieces of their Scrabble game missing, they decided
to create their own game. With the help of John Haney and Ed Werner, they
completed development of the game, which was released in 1982."

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

Janet Baraclough > wrote in
:

> The message >
> from Michel Boucher > contains these words:
>
>> sf > wrote in news:h522r55u30o8olqqis9uj6ga9ieih26a2n@
>> 4ax.com:
>
>> >> Britain's population is 62 million.
>> >
>> > A drop in the bucket.
>
>> Some bucket...some drop! (with apologies to Winston Churchill)
>
> He had a lisp too, so sf probably wasn't listening.

http://archives.cbc.ca/war_conflict/...war/clips/778/

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:38:16 -0700, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>Pinstripe Sniper wrote:

>> This tv show may be just the straw that breaks the camel's back on the
>> national level and be the tipping point for all the local/regional
>> school breakfast/lunch reform movements in these chubby United Steaks.
>>
>> PsS
>>
>
>It may well do that. Suspecting that was his aim all along. He had to be
>aware of various local efforts.

I was thinking the same thing... Maybe, since this is on one of the
major networks, it might reach more people..and have an impact. Would
be nice to think so, at least.

Christine, who is putting her new laptop through it's paces...

Pinstripe Sniper wrote:
>
> Arri London > wrote:
> >No, also talking about school boards in the US (where I am at the
> >moment). It's been on the news over and over. Jamie isn't doing anything
> >new or unusual. Just making it more public.
>
> This tv show may be just the straw that breaks the camel's back on the
> national level and be the tipping point for all the local/regional
> school breakfast/lunch reform movements in these chubby United Steaks.
>
> PsS
>

It may well do that. Suspecting that was his aim all along. He had to be
aware of various local efforts.

Michel wrote to sf:

>>> You REALLY need to get out more.
>>
>> No, I don't.
>
> *double sigh* The more you protest, the more it is obvious you would
> benefit greatly from it, and suffer greatly from the lack of it.

Haven't you seen any of sf's travelogues?

Bob

Christopher wrote:

> There is no group in America that does not have its own epithet. If
> there isn't well known a term that can't be used on television to
> describe you, you are nobody in America.

So what would Jamie (note corrected spelling) Oliver's epithet be? Essexual
deviant? Dyslexoid?

Bob

Michel wrote:

> It's my experience that although not all USAian adults are geographically
> challenged, the most geographically challenged adults are usually USAians.

You've never been to a *really* benighted country, have you? Spend a month
in Algeria or Turkmenistan sometime.

Bob

"Obveeus" wrote:

> "clouddreamer" > wrote:
>> shawn wrote:
>>> I suspect we could find the same thing in Russia or China. Any really
>>> large country is going to have that problem. The people inside the
>>> country don't have to deal with other countries on a normal basis so
>>> they tend to be somewhat insular. But in places like countries of
>>> Europe it's normal for citizens of one country to deal with citizens
>>> of another on a regular basis or even visit other countries. That
>>> tends to broaden their horizons.
>
> Correct. Learning all the countries in Europe or Africa would be about
> the same as learning all the states in the USA. The states in the USA are
> of similar size and GDP to many of those countries.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1pcyt4.jpg

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in news:4bb2ac30$0
:

>> *double sigh* The more you protest, the more it is obvious you would
>> benefit greatly from it, and suffer greatly from the lack of it.
>
> Haven't you seen any of sf's travelogues?

Travel was not the issue, leaving the box behind was. I suspect this is
some annoying game she plays but hey, I've got lots of time on my hands :-)

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in
:

> So what would Jamie (note corrected spelling) Oliver's epithet be?
> Essexual deviant? Dyslexoid?

Chef

--
"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in
:

> You've never been to a *really* benighted country, have you? Spend a
> month in Algeria or Turkmenistan sometime.

I lived in Spain under Franco and spent some time in Morocco in the late
1960's.

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

On Mar 27, 3:05*pm, Joseph Littleshoes > wrote:
> Pinstripe Sniper wrote:
> > DOh! *I missed it (Friday @ 9pm) but will probably track an online
> > copy down and watch it. *I saw the "preview" earlier in the week and
> > it seemed worthwhile.
>
> > Did anyone see it? Thoughts?
>
> I watched bits and pieces of it, but found it "preachy" boring and it
> seemed to me he had an awful lot of *self congratulatory "look at me"
> sort of attitude going on, how the show was such a "sacrifice" for him
> and how noble he is for making the personal sacrifice to make the show.
>
> A bit like Gordon Ramsy and his "hells Kitchen" but more political.
> --
> JL

I watched it and enjoyed it - he deserves some ego, seein' as how he's
improved the UK schools where he's tried his new approach.

However, if he makes any improvement in that negative Huntington WV
bunch, I'll be amazed. What a bunch of know-nothings - if I were the
town's PTB, I'd be upset at what was shown - you can't tell me there
aren't some positive, smart people in that town.

N.

On Mar 31, 12:42*pm, Janet Baraclough >
wrote:
> The message
> >
> from Nancy2 > contains these words:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 27, 3:05*pm, Joseph Littleshoes > wrote:
> > > Pinstripe Sniper wrote:
> > > > DOh! *I missed it (Friday @ 9pm) but will probably track an online
> > > > copy down and watch it. *I saw the "preview" earlier in the week and
> > > > it seemed worthwhile.
>
> > > > Did anyone see it? Thoughts?
>
> > > I watched bits and pieces of it, but found it "preachy" boring and it
> > > seemed to me he had an awful lot of *self congratulatory "look at me"
> > > sort of attitude going on, how the show was such a "sacrifice" for him
> > > and how noble he is for making the personal sacrifice to make the show.
>
> > > A bit like Gordon Ramsy and his "hells Kitchen" but more political.
> > > --
> > > JL
> > I watched it and enjoyed it - he deserves some ego, seein' as how he's
> > improved the UK schools where he's tried his new approach.
> > However, if he makes any improvement in that negative Huntington WV
> > bunch, I'll be amazed. *What a bunch of know-nothings - if I were the
> > town's PTB, I'd be upset at what was shown - you can't tell me there
> > aren't some positive, smart people in that town.
>
> *That's *a pattern he has used successfully in the past; start with *the
> seemingly impossible
> and turn things around, at least for some. One of his previous series
> was about taking *unemployed *teens
> and *training them to be top chefs
>
> * *http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/J/jamie/
>
> Janet- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

As to those youngsters watching all the chicken parts that he made
into "nuggets," it would have helped if the parents - especially the
arguably lazy cooks in that school, the woman in charge of
"nutrition" (rice and bread, both required in a single meal?), the
mayor and the principal - had been there for that demonstration.

N.

Christopher wrote:

>>> There is no group in America that does not have its own epithet. If
>>> there isn't well known a term that can't be used on television to
>>> describe you, you are nobody in America.
>>
>> So what would Jamie (note corrected spelling) Oliver's epithet be?
>> Essexual deviant? Dyslexoid?
>
> Chef

So which is it: You don't know what the word "epithet" means, or the word
"chef" is an epithet to you?

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in
:

>>> So what would Jamie (note corrected spelling) Oliver's epithet be?
>>> Essexual deviant? Dyslexoid?
>>
>> Chef
>
> So which is it: You don't know what the word "epithet" means

Not bloody likely.

> or the
> word "chef" is an epithet to you?

Depends how you feel about them. It can be used in the same sense as
"Belgians!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19fcN3VaXs4

--

"The officer corps will forgive anything they can
understand, which makes intelligence the only sin."

Carnell, Blakes 7 episode 16

Michel Boucher wrote:

> No, she was warned. Same way that if a policeman says that if you
> commit act Y you will incur penalty Z. You are free to abstain from
> committing act Y.

They used to do like that on the road signs in Amsterdam: "Do you think that
parking without paying 2 guilders per hour is worth the risk to pay a 400
guilders fine?".
And it works. Along with those vans full of yellow wheel-blocks patroling
the area, it works.
--
Vilco
Don't think pink: drink rosè

On Mar 28, 10:28*pm, projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 3:05*pm, Joseph Littleshoes > wrote:
>
> > Pinstripe Sniper wrote:
> > > DOh! *I missed it (Friday @ 9pm) but will probably track an online
> > > copy down and watch it. *I saw the "preview" earlier in the week and
> > > it seemed worthwhile.
>
> > > Did anyone see it? Thoughts?
>
> > I watched bits and pieces of it, but found it "preachy" boring and it
> > seemed to me he had an awful lot of *self congratulatory "look at me"
> > sort of attitude going on, how the show was such a "sacrifice" for him
> > and how noble he is for making the personal sacrifice to make the show.
>
> > A bit like Gordon Ramsy and his "hells Kitchen" but more political.
>
> I agree totally.
>
> Did you catch the part where he started crying? *Good grief.

****...another Charlie Brown.

On Sat, 8 May 2010 14:13:56 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:

>On Mar 28, 10:28*pm, projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
>> On Mar 27, 3:05*pm, Joseph Littleshoes > wrote:
>>
>> > Pinstripe Sniper wrote:
>> > > DOh! *I missed it (Friday @ 9pm) but will probably track an online
>> > > copy down and watch it. *I saw the "preview" earlier in the week and
>> > > it seemed worthwhile.
>>
>> > > Did anyone see it? Thoughts?
>>
>> > I watched bits and pieces of it, but found it "preachy" boring and it
>> > seemed to me he had an awful lot of *self congratulatory "look at me"
>> > sort of attitude going on, how the show was such a "sacrifice" for him
>> > and how noble he is for making the personal sacrifice to make the show.
>>
>> > A bit like Gordon Ramsy and his "hells Kitchen" but more political.
>>
>> I agree totally.
>>
>> Did you catch the part where he started crying? *Good grief.
>
>****...another Charlie Brown.

Oliver can be hard to take at times, no doubt about it.
But I have to admit, I do like his cooking.

Only very recently did I see the first two or three episodes of Food
Revolution, and I have to admit I was genuinely shocked and appalled
at the 'food' served out at that school. It was far, far, far worse
than I'd ever imagined. Tons and tons of empty carbs and chemicals...
and basically nothing else.

But that was nothing compared to the school's reaction to Oliver's
request that the kids be given cutlery to eat with They actually asked
him to *prove* that children in the U.K (and every other country that
traditionally uses cutlery for that matter) routinely use cutlery!

What a way to start your life... on a diet like that, combined with an
education system with an attitude like that.

On May 10, 6:43*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
> On Sat, 8 May 2010 14:13:56 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Mar 28, 10:28*pm, projectile vomit chick
> > wrote:
> >> On Mar 27, 3:05*pm, Joseph Littleshoes > wrote:
>
> >> > Pinstripe Sniper wrote:
> >> > > DOh! *I missed it (Friday @ 9pm) but will probably track an online
> >> > > copy down and watch it. *I saw the "preview" earlier in the week and
> >> > > it seemed worthwhile.
>
> >> > > Did anyone see it? Thoughts?
>
> >> > I watched bits and pieces of it, but found it "preachy" boring and it
> >> > seemed to me he had an awful lot of *self congratulatory "look at me"
> >> > sort of attitude going on, how the show was such a "sacrifice" for him
> >> > and how noble he is for making the personal sacrifice to make the show.
>
> >> > A bit like Gordon Ramsy and his "hells Kitchen" but more political.
>
> >> I agree totally.
>
> >> Did you catch the part where he started crying? *Good grief.
>
> >****...another Charlie Brown.
>
> Oliver can be hard to take at times, no doubt about it.
> But I have to admit, I do like his cooking.
>
> Only very recently did I see the first two or three episodes of Food
> Revolution, and I have to admit I was genuinely shocked and appalled
> at the 'food' served out at that school. It was far, far, far worse
> than I'd ever imagined. Tons and tons of empty carbs and chemicals...
> and basically nothing else.
>
> But that was nothing compared to the school's reaction to Oliver's
> request that the kids be given cutlery to eat with They actually asked
> him to *prove* that children in the U.K (and every other country that
> traditionally uses cutlery for that matter) routinely use cutlery!
>
> What a way to start your life... on a diet like that, combined with an
> education system with an attitude like that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I was amazed that one parent sent a brown bag lunch that consisted of
potato chips and M & Ms. Some of the parents need more education
about nutrition than the students.

N.