Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
themselves as "buy American".

Anyone remember that?

I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.

Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.

On Apr 14, 4:18*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:


Back in the late 1970s, Sam Walton, Wal-Mart's founder, first began
scouring the globe for cheap imports. But Sam Walton was not the
first. Sears, Montgomery Ward, JCPenney and Kmart got to Asia ahead of
Walton, and for several years Wal-Mart lagged behind them in global
sourcing.

But as Wal-Mart gained competitive advantage through its computerized
supply chains, it overtook its rivals and became the most efficient
global sourcer of all. Today, it is a massive conveyor belt to the
U.S. consumer of $15 to $30 billion a year in products from China. By
the estimate of Retail Forward, Wal-Mart now imports more than half of
its non-food products.

"They were more single-minded in terms of global cost cutting and
internal efficiency than any other U.S. retailer," says Professor
Gereffi of Duke. "And that helps us understand how and why they were
able to pass companies like Kmart and Sears that were the early
leaders in U.S. retailing and offshore sourcing."

For a long time, Wal-Mart soft-pedaled its growing dependence on low-
cost Asian imports, especially during the late 1980s and early 90s
when Wal-Mart was touting Sam Walton's "Buy American" campaign. In
fact, in several highly publicized examples, Sam Walton did help out
some U.S. companies by buying their products when imports were on the
verge of driving them out of business.

Nonetheless, Wal-Mart kept steadily expanding its low-cost Asian
imports through the '80s and '90s, according to Jay Moates, chief U.S.
accountant for PREL (Pacific Resources Exports, Ltd.), Wal-Mart's
exclusive global buying agency from 1989 to 2002. "I think it's one
thing to have those sentimental thoughts and values and another to
short your shareholders," said Moates. "I mean if you can get the
[imported] product cheaper and sell it, I think you're obligated to do
that."

Imports helped fatten Wal-Mart's profits, Moates told me, because he
estimated Wal-Mart's profit margins were four to six times higher on
Asian imports than on American-made goods.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ets/shots.html

ImStillMags > wrote:

>Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?

No. There were no Wal-Marts anywhere near where I live until
they were already established as the world's largest retailer.
I never encountered them until recently.

Steve

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:18:59 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
>They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
>themselves as "buy American".
>
>Anyone remember that?
>
>I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>
>Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.


I haven't shopped there since my nephew was let go for stealing. It
was later proved that it was not him but another employee.
The worst part was that they came into a crowded employee lounge and
accused him to his face, many in the lounge were friends from school.
They never apologized to him or even offered him his job back, that
was 2001 and we haven't been back.

I told him he should of sued.

On Apr 14, 7:30*pm, WTF > wrote:

> The worst part was that they came into a crowded employee lounge and
> accused him to his face, many in the lounge were friends from school.
> They never apologized to him or even offered him his job back, that
> was 2001 and we haven't been back.

I am not surprised, after I heard that chewout over the PA in that
store ne day I bet that poor employee prayed for the ground to
open. What lousy, unprofessional tactics.

On Apr 14, 6:30*pm, WTF > wrote:
>
> I told him he should of sued.

Maybe he should have sued.

projectile vomit chick wrote:
>WTF wrote:
>>
>> I told him he should of sued.
>
>Maybe he should have sued.

I think "I told him he should of ****ing sued" is acceptible... no one
notices the 'of'. lol

Anyways on usenet "shoulda" is most appropriate... then it's "shoulda
****ing sued"... see how the ****ing is transported. Whee, this is
****in' fun! LOL

On Apr 14, 6:18*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
> themselves as "buy American".
>
> Anyone remember that?
>
> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>
> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. *I just can't take the 'vibe'.

Yup! Ole Sam Walton must be rolling in his grave at what his
successors did to his business and the United States with it!

Data from http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

U.S. Trade Imbalance with China (millions of dollars, to China)

Year Amount
1985 6
1986 1664
1987 2796
1988 3489
1989 6234
1990 10431
1991 12591
1992 18309
1993 22777
1994 29505
1995 33789
1996 39520
1997 47695
1998 56927
1999 68677
2000 83833
2001 83096
2002 103064
2003 124068
2004 161938
2005 201544
2006 232548
2007 258506
2008 268040
2009 208688

John Kuthe...

"ImStillMags" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
> themselves as "buy American".
>
> Anyone remember that?
>
> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>
> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.


Walmarts weren't 'Walmarts' before the 70's. Walton started buying up Ben
Franklin stores in the south and expanding them. When he completely took
over the company it became Walmart.
-g

Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:

>
> Walmarts weren't 'Walmarts' before the 70's. Walton started buying up Ben
> Franklin stores in the south and expanding them. When he completely took
> over the company it became Walmart.
> -g

Does anyone remember a store called FedMart back in Texas years ago?
Whatever happened to that store/chain?

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:06:31 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
>
>>
>> Walmarts weren't 'Walmarts' before the 70's. Walton started buying up Ben
>> Franklin stores in the south and expanding them. When he completely took
>> over the company it became Walmart.
>> -g
>
>Does anyone remember a store called FedMart back in Texas years ago?
>Whatever happened to that store/chain?

If memory serves me right they became Price Club then Costco. We had
FedMarts here in CA also. Stores for Federal Employees.

koko
--

There is no love more sincere than the love of food
George Bernard Shaw

www.kokoscornerblog.com
updated 04/08/10

In article >,
koko > wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:06:31 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:

> >Does anyone remember a store called FedMart back in Texas years ago?
> >Whatever happened to that store/chain?
>
> If memory serves me right they became Price Club then Costco. We had
> FedMarts here in CA also. Stores for Federal Employees.

Not quite, according to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedMart

They were founded by Sol Price, who later founded Price Club. However,
they were bought out by someone else, Price was canned, and they failed
in 1983.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:07:57 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> koko > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:06:31 -0400, Goomba >
>> wrote:
>
>> >Does anyone remember a store called FedMart back in Texas years ago?
>> >Whatever happened to that store/chain?
>>
>> If memory serves me right they became Price Club then Costco. We had
>> FedMarts here in CA also. Stores for Federal Employees.
>
>Not quite, according to this:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedMart
>
>They were founded by Sol Price, who later founded Price Club. However,
>they were bought out by someone else, Price was canned, and they failed
>in 1983.

Seems like memory doesn't serve me right. It's been many years since I
worked on their account for their insurance agency.

koko
--

There is no love more sincere than the love of food
George Bernard Shaw

www.kokoscornerblog.com
updated 04/08/10

"ImStillMags" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
> themselves as "buy American".
>
> Anyone remember that?
>
> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>
> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.

I don't shop at Walmart for other reasons. The closest one to me has the
worst entry and exit to the parking lot. It is always more crowded than the
checkout lines can handle.

I haven't had a problem with shopping them online, though.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
news
>
> "ImStillMags" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
>> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
>> themselves as "buy American".
>>
>> Anyone remember that?
>>
>> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>>
>> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.
>
> I don't shop at Walmart for other reasons. The closest one to me has the
> worst entry and exit to the parking lot. It is always more crowded than
> the checkout lines can handle.
>
> I haven't had a problem with shopping them online, though.
>

Seems like they have a million checkout lanes but only four or five of them
are ever actually open. I did recently purchase patio furniture from
WalMart online. I did price comparisons from various stores and they had
exactly what I was looking for, free drop-ship to the store, at the best
price. I wouldn't run to WalMart to do every day shopping, however, and
certainly not for groceries.

Jill

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:14:47 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
>news
>>
>> "ImStillMags" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
>>> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
>>> themselves as "buy American".
>>>
>>> Anyone remember that?
>>>
>>> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.
>>
>> I don't shop at Walmart for other reasons. The closest one to me has the
>> worst entry and exit to the parking lot. It is always more crowded than
>> the checkout lines can handle.
>>
>> I haven't had a problem with shopping them online, though.
>>
>
>Seems like they have a million checkout lanes but only four or five of them
>are ever actually open. I did recently purchase patio furniture from
>WalMart online. I did price comparisons from various stores and they had
>exactly what I was looking for, free drop-ship to the store, at the best
>price. I wouldn't run to WalMart to do every day shopping, however, and
>certainly not for groceries.

Why not? Many of the groceries sold at Walmart are exactly the same
as sold at all other markets but Walmart prices are a lot lower.
Walmart sells the same premium pet foods/supplies as say Petco, etal.
but I save a good 30%. Walmart sells Eight O'clock coffee for fully
1/3 less than any other store around here. Walmart also has the
lowest prices on national brand frozen foods, I buy all my frozen
veggies there... their freezers/fridges are kept properly cold too...
when I want a spiral cut ham or packaged hot dogs I will only buy
those from Walmart. Walmart has good prices on canned/boxed foods
too. I'll buy anything at Walmart, I just won't by fresh meats or
produce there... it's cheap but so is the quality. I don't shop
Walmart often anyway, it's too far for me to go often but if I happen
to be in that area it's one of my staples stock-up stores.

I don't permit folk's unfounded feelings deter my shopping, I shop
wherever I save... were I looking for a career move I would't work at
Walmart either, as an adult I wouldn't consider being a stock clerk at
any store, I stopped doing that kind of job at about age 15, as an
after school job it was fine. Expecting to earn an adult living as a
stock clerk is no different from expecting to earn an adult living
toweling off cars at a car wash. Anyone who believes an unskilled
labor job should pay more than minimum wage is a certifiable
pinhead... actually many unskilled labor jobs aren't worth more than
half minimum wage... a shopping cart fetcher isn't worth more than
$2/hr to start and they can work themselves up to $3/hr. I honestly
don't believe any one who works at Walmart is unhappy there, Walmart
doesn't force anyone to work there, they choose to work for Walmart...
it's only the losers who don't work at all who bitch about Walmart,
but those dreck bitch about how life is unfair to them 24/7. I fully
believe that all those who bitch about the unfairness of Walmart's
working conditions are those who don't work at all, have very likely
never held any job... I can tell from their inane arguments that they
consider "work" a life threatening illness.

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:14:47 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>news
>>>
>>> "ImStillMags" > wrote in message
>>> ...
snippage

I honestly don't believe any one who works at Walmart is unhappy there,
Walmart
> doesn't force anyone to work there, they choose to work for Walmart...
> it's only the losers who don't work at all who bitch about Walmart,
> but those dreck bitch about how life is unfair to them 24/7. I fully
> believe that all those who bitch about the unfairness of Walmart's
> working conditions are those who don't work at all, have very likely
> never held any job... I can tell from their inane arguments that they
> consider "work" a life threatening illness.
>
>

A certain amount about Walmart employees you say is true. I worked there
and although I had complaints at times, I dealt with the problem. When
asked to chose between my family and Wally -world, I told Wally-world adios.
There are people still there, at least 7 years later, who are still bitching
and complaining about how bad they have it. I have always believed 'put up
or shut up'...if it's SOOOOOOOOO terribly bad for YOU....YOU have the right
to find another job. When it became unteniable for me, I did just that. I
think a number of the people I worked with had a martyr complex.......hurt
me some more so I have something else to whine about. Now I'm not defending
Walmart in the least, but until people start acting their sentiments instead
of just airing them ad infinitum, ad nauseum, Walmart will still be
operating the same in 2020, 2030, etc. unless someother corporation
out-Walmarts them. You don't like Walmart.....don't shop there, if you
don't like the working conditions, don't work there. Simple as that.
-ginny

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:47:34 -0400, "Virginia Tadrzynski"
> wrote:

>
>"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:14:47 -0400, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>news >>>>
>>>> "ImStillMags" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>snippage
>
> I honestly don't believe any one who works at Walmart is unhappy there,
>Walmart
>> doesn't force anyone to work there, they choose to work for Walmart...
>> it's only the losers who don't work at all who bitch about Walmart,
>> but those dreck bitch about how life is unfair to them 24/7. I fully
>> believe that all those who bitch about the unfairness of Walmart's
>> working conditions are those who don't work at all, have very likely
>> never held any job... I can tell from their inane arguments that they
>> consider "work" a life threatening illness.
>>
>>
>
>A certain amount about Walmart employees you say is true. I worked there
>and although I had complaints at times, I dealt with the problem. When
>asked to chose between my family and Wally -world, I told Wally-world adios.
>There are people still there, at least 7 years later, who are still bitching
>and complaining about how bad they have it. I have always believed 'put up
>or shut up'...if it's SOOOOOOOOO terribly bad for YOU....YOU have the right
>to find another job. When it became unteniable for me, I did just that. I
>think a number of the people I worked with had a martyr complex.......hurt
>me some more so I have something else to whine about. Now I'm not defending
>Walmart in the least, but until people start acting their sentiments instead
>of just airing them ad infinitum, ad nauseum, Walmart will still be
>operating the same in 2020, 2030, etc. unless someother corporation
>out-Walmarts them. You don't like Walmart.....don't shop there, if you
>don't like the working conditions, don't work there. Simple as that.
>-ginny
>

You really got it right. I've always viewed Walmart, McDonalds,
Burger King, etc. as entry level jobs. If you like that kind of work
it is possible to work your way up in the company and make a decent
living. Sure, not everyone will make it to the top, bit if you don't,
and are not satisfied with minimum wage, move on to something else.
Find a job you like, get recognized as a conscientious employee, and
move up in the company. Don't whine about it and "blackmail" the
company into paying you more than you are worth. That is what has
driven so many jobs overseas. Nearly every company is now an
international company and has to compete on and international level to
stay in business. If your costs are higher than another company, you
lose market share, profitability and go out of business. Then all
your employees are out on the streets.

Ron Kelley

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:14:47 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>news
>>>
>>> "ImStillMags" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
>>>> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
>>>> themselves as "buy American".
>>>>
>>>> Anyone remember that?
>>>>
>>>> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.
>>>
>>> I don't shop at Walmart for other reasons. The closest one to me has the
>>> worst entry and exit to the parking lot. It is always more crowded than
>>> the checkout lines can handle.
>>>
>>> I haven't had a problem with shopping them online, though.
>>>
>>
>>Seems like they have a million checkout lanes but only four or five of
>>them
>>are ever actually open. I did recently purchase patio furniture from
>>WalMart online. I did price comparisons from various stores and they had
>>exactly what I was looking for, free drop-ship to the store, at the best
>>price. I wouldn't run to WalMart to do every day shopping, however, and
>>certainly not for groceries.
>
> Why not? Many of the groceries sold at Walmart are exactly the same
> as sold at all other markets but Walmart prices are a lot lower.


For one reason, I have to drive 25 miles to get to WalMart. 10 miles to
Publix. And I don't think the prices are that much lower to justify the
price in gas.

> Walmart sells the same premium pet foods/supplies as say Petco, etal.

Persia eats prescription food so that does me absolutely no good. Of course
there isn't a PetCo or a Petsmart within 50 miles of me, either. However,
since she's been ill and the vet said feed her whatever she wants for now, I
buy canned Friskies, 9 Lives and Fancy Feast at the Dollar General across
the street from where I work. You can get people food there, too

> but I save a good 30%. Walmart sells Eight O'clock coffee for fully
> 1/3 less than any other store around here.

I'm still drinking coffee left over from when I was a member of Gevalia,
going on 10 years ago. I'm not really a coffee drinker. I have maybe a cup
a day, about 3 days a week.

> Walmart also has the
> lowest prices on national brand frozen foods, I buy all my frozen
> veggies there... their freezers/fridges are kept properly cold too...

I've never found anything wrong with the freezers at Publix and often get
two for one sales on bags of frozen veggies. Say $1.50 for two bags of
frozen leaf spinach, broccoli, cauliflower florets. I'm never running short
of frozen veggies

> when I want a spiral cut ham or packaged hot dogs I will only buy
> those from Walmart. Walmart has good prices on canned/boxed foods
> too. I'll buy anything at Walmart, I just won't by fresh meats or
> produce there... it's cheap but so is the quality.
>
Hence my point about not buying groceries at WalMart. I'm not going to
drive 25 miles to buy sub-standard meat or boxed canned food.

For fresh produce there are plenty of vegetable stands around here. Seafood
stands, too! Locally grown produce, in season. And there is a butcher chop
on Lady's Island. On Saturdays the guy who owns the place sets up a big
smoker in the parking lot and smokes slabs of ribs and grills half chickens.

Why would I buy food at Walmart?

Jill

brooklyn1 wrote:

> WMany of the groceries sold at Walmart are exactly the same
> as sold at all other markets but Walmart prices are a lot lower.
> Walmart sells the same premium pet foods/supplies as say Petco, etal.
> but I save a good 30%. Walmart sells Eight O'clock coffee for fully
> 1/3 less than any other store around here.


Weren't you listening when people here who know the facts from their own
business experience have said that Walmart stuff is NOT the same quality
as the same brand provided to other stores? In order to get lower
prices from their vendors they accept or require lower standards.

In addition, I can remember you saying years ago that anyone who buys
grocery store bagged coffee anywhere is buying "floor sweepings" from
the processor. (I believe it was Maxwell House you were dissing at the
time.)

gloria p

"gloria.p" > wrote
> Weren't you listening when people here who know the facts from their own
> business experience have said that Walmart stuff is NOT the same quality
> as the same brand provided to other stores? In order to get lower prices
> from their vendors they accept or require lower standards.

I've heard that about power tools in Home Depot too. I've yet to see
someone take a tool from Home Depot and one from the local store and do a
side by side comparison. Is the Skippy peanut butter at Wal-Mart different
from what I buy at Stop & Shop? If it is true, someone, somewhere, should
be able to take two items apart and show the difference. So far, no proof.

Meat and produce may well be lower quality.

"gloria.p" wrote:
>brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Many of the groceries sold at Walmart are exactly the same
>> as sold at all other markets but Walmart prices are a lot lower.
>> Walmart sells the same premium pet foods/supplies as say Petco, etal.
>> but I save a good 30%. Walmart sells Eight O'clock coffee for fully
>> 1/3 less than any other store around here.
>
>
>Weren't you listening when people here who know the facts from their own
>business experience have said that Walmart stuff is NOT the same quality
>as the same brand provided to other stores? In order to get lower
>prices from their vendors they accept or require lower standards.

Listening to assholes and believing assholes are two different things.
Does anyone actually think that the national brands would risk pawning
off seconds/irregulars under their own label... Gloria, you have the
IQ of an ameoba.

>In addition, I can remember you saying years ago that anyone who buys
>grocery store bagged coffee anywhere is buying "floor sweepings" from
>the processor. (I believe it was Maxwell House you were dissing at the
>time.)

Nope, I said all coffee beans can contain floor sweepings... coffee
beans are no different from pinto beans, you're supposed to pick
through them for contaminants and rinse them... but obviously no one
sorts through let alone rinses coffee beans. I've found pebbles in
coffee beans many times, just not going to find them unless you grind
your own with a burr grinder... pebbles will jam the burrs. I've
found small stones in with peppercorns the same way, and these were
Penzys peppercorns... I'm sure there were some insects and mouse turds
too... no one sorts through and washes their peppercorns either.
However at least with coffee beans and whole spices one has a chance
of spotting foreign material, not so with already ground/powdered.

The reason that Walmart can sell at lower prices is because Walmart
pays lower prices, because Walmart buys greater volume than anyone
else... the national brands even give Walmart a much larger window to
pay because Walmart has an excellent reputation for actually paying.
Most of the national brands maintain a whole separate facility for
Walmart accounting/warehousing/shipping. But the national brand
products sold at Walmart are exactly the same as sold at the little
mom n' pop stores. However when Walmart wants to sell a lesser
product at lower price they contract with the national brands to
manufacture the specified product under a totally different label with
totally different packaging... but all large retail chains do exactly
the same. You can buy Nabisco Fig Newtons at Walmart but you can also
buy Walmart brand fig bars... the Walmart brand fig bars cost about
half and I think is a better product than the Nabisco Fig Newtons...
the Walmart fig bars may be made by Nabisco or may not be... in this
case I strongly suspect that Walmart buys their fig bars from some
other baked goods company... the Walmart fig bar packaging is
obviously far less expensive but the bars themeself contain noticably
more fig filling and less cookie surround, I think the fig filling is
of superiour quality. Only problem is that because they cost like
about half and are so darned good that I eat twice as much... they are
very addictive... only way I can keep from eating so many is not to
buy any.

Again, it's only the losers who bash Walmart... I know quite a few
people who work at Walmart or have family members who work at
Walmart... I've never heard anything but praise about how Walmart
treats their employees. I'm retired and have no real desire for a job
but if ever I felt I needed something to do Walmart would be my first
choice for a job... naturally on my application I'd claim expertise in
fitting ladies bras.

Like many others Gloria is far more concerned with waging her personal
vendetta against me than the truth.

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:30:01 -0600, gloria.p wrote:

> brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> WMany of the groceries sold at Walmart are exactly the same
>> as sold at all other markets but Walmart prices are a lot lower.
>> Walmart sells the same premium pet foods/supplies as say Petco, etal.
>> but I save a good 30%. Walmart sells Eight O'clock coffee for fully
>> 1/3 less than any other store around here.
>
> Weren't you listening when people here who know the facts from their own
> business experience have said that Walmart stuff is NOT the same quality
> as the same brand provided to other stores? In order to get lower
> prices from their vendors they accept or require lower standards.
>
> In addition, I can remember you saying years ago that anyone who buys
> grocery store bagged coffee anywhere is buying "floor sweepings" from
> the processor. (I believe it was Maxwell House you were dissing at the
> time.)
>
> gloria p

you're forgetting the Basic Law of Sheldon: whatever he buys is top-notch,
whatever anyone else buys is shit. that's because he's smart and everyone
else is stupid.

your pal,
blake

On 4/15/2010 11:11 AM, brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:14:47 -0400, >
> wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> news
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
>>>> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
>>>> themselves as "buy American".
>>>>
>>>> Anyone remember that?
>>>>
>>>> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.
>>>
>>> I don't shop at Walmart for other reasons. The closest one to me has the
>>> worst entry and exit to the parking lot. It is always more crowded than
>>> the checkout lines can handle.
>>>
>>> I haven't had a problem with shopping them online, though.
>>>
>>
>> Seems like they have a million checkout lanes but only four or five of them
>> are ever actually open. I did recently purchase patio furniture from
>> WalMart online. I did price comparisons from various stores and they had
>> exactly what I was looking for, free drop-ship to the store, at the best
>> price. I wouldn't run to WalMart to do every day shopping, however, and
>> certainly not for groceries.
>
> Why not? Many of the groceries sold at Walmart are exactly the same
> as sold at all other markets but Walmart prices are a lot lower.

Really? so you are claiming to be omniscient again? We buy most of our
stuff at a large local market where we pay less than walmart.

> Walmart sells the same premium pet foods/supplies as say Petco, etal.
> but I save a good 30%. Walmart sells Eight O'clock coffee for fully
> 1/3 less than any other store around here. Walmart also has the
> lowest prices on national brand frozen foods, I buy all my frozen
> veggies there... their freezers/fridges are kept properly cold too...
> when I want a spiral cut ham or packaged hot dogs I will only buy
> those from Walmart. Walmart has good prices on canned/boxed foods
> too. I'll buy anything at Walmart, I just won't by fresh meats or
> produce there... it's cheap but so is the quality. I don't shop
> Walmart often anyway, it's too far for me to go often but if I happen
> to be in that area it's one of my staples stock-up stores.
>
> I don't permit folk's unfounded feelings deter my shopping, I shop
> wherever I save... were I looking for a career move I would't work at
> Walmart either, as an adult I wouldn't consider being a stock clerk at
> any store, I stopped doing that kind of job at about age 15, as an
> after school job it was fine. Expecting to earn an adult living as a
> stock clerk is no different from expecting to earn an adult living
> toweling off cars at a car wash. Anyone who believes an unskilled
> labor job should pay more than minimum wage is a certifiable
> pinhead... actually many unskilled labor jobs aren't worth more than
> half minimum wage... a shopping cart fetcher isn't worth more than
> $2/hr to start and they can work themselves up to $3/hr. I honestly
> don't believe any one who works at Walmart is unhappy there, Walmart
> doesn't force anyone to work there, they choose to work for Walmart...
> it's only the losers who don't work at all who bitch about Walmart,
> but those dreck bitch about how life is unfair to them 24/7. I fully
> believe that all those who bitch about the unfairness of Walmart's
> working conditions are those who don't work at all, have very likely
> never held any job... I can tell from their inane arguments that they
> consider "work" a life threatening illness.
>
>

Sure, you need to rationalize buying there somehow. So I and many of my
friends who work hard at their careers and dislike walmart must somehow
be anomalies?

As usual you are totally out of touch with everything. A large
percentage of manufacturing jobs are gone because of the conversion to a
service economy. walmart doesn't force anyone to work for them but where
exactly are folks supposed to work in a service economy?

ImStillMags wrote:
> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
> themselves as "buy American".
>
> Anyone remember that?
>
> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>
> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.

Yes, I certainly do remember that and frequently find myself
musing about how that has changed.

--
Jean B.

"ImStillMags" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
> themselves as "buy American".
>
> Anyone remember that?
>
> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>
> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.

The one I remember was the yarn mill and the woman proudly proclaiming that
"Walmart saved my job!" Bet she doesn't have that good job now.

Ms P

Ms P wrote:

> The one I remember was the yarn mill and the woman proudly proclaiming
> that "Walmart saved my job!" Bet she doesn't have that good job now.
>
> Ms P

I went to a ladies group meeting yesterday and the guest speaker was a
young woman in her 30's with a passion for millinery (aka "hats"). She
spoke about the history of hats but also displayed the tools and
supplies used in hat making. She said the US has just lost its last felt
manufacturer, and that many other supplies (specific to hat making) have
become much harder to find. It was sort of sad to think something as
common as felt now has to also be imported.
On the radio today they announced the US's last remaining sardine plant
in Maine was closing, and mentioned the competition it had with Asian
sardine plants.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:56:38 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Ms P wrote:
>
>> The one I remember was the yarn mill and the woman proudly proclaiming
>> that "Walmart saved my job!" Bet she doesn't have that good job now.
>>
>> Ms P
>
>I went to a ladies group meeting yesterday and the guest speaker was a
>young woman in her 30's with a passion for millinery (aka "hats"). She
>spoke about the history of hats but also displayed the tools and
>supplies used in hat making. She said the US has just lost its last felt
>manufacturer, and that many other supplies (specific to hat making) have
>become much harder to find. It was sort of sad to think something as
>common as felt now has to also be imported.

Not true, none of it... there are still plenty of felt hat
manufacturers in NYC, mostly ladies hats.

>On the radio today they announced the US's last remaining sardine plant
>in Maine was closing, and mentioned the competition it had with Asian
>sardine plants.

Men in the US don't wear felt fedoras much anymore, when demand
diminishes businesses move on. Folks in the US don't eat sardines
much anymore either, not since the advent of modern fast food... when
I was growing up canned fish was fast food... a sardine sandwich was
typical school kid's lunchbox fare, brown bagger adults as well, it
was low cost, high nutrition, and fast for moms to prepare. Very few
people in the US eat sardines nowadays (sardines are mostly a staple
of the newly arrived immigrants) even shelf space devoted to tuna (and
all canned fish) is diminishing rapidly.... when those who do eat
sardines see the prices they no longer buy... sardines once a peasant
food are now considered a luxury food. US fish cannerys put
themselves out of business by exessesive profiteering.

Btw, Stetson hats are still made in America.... far from inexpensive
but certain folks are willing to pay to wear a legend.
http://www.stetson.com/

Interesting:
http://www.stetsonhat.com/video.php

On 4/15/2010 8:44 AM, brooklyn1 wrote:

>
> Btw, Stetson hats are still made in America.... far from inexpensive
> but certain folks are willing to pay to wear a legend.
> http://www.stetson.com/
>
> Interesting:
> http://www.stetsonhat.com/video.php


When I moved here to the South, one of the th9ings that was hard for me
to get used to is that there are a large number of men who actually wear
cowboy hats on a daily basis. Not that there is anything wrong with
that... but at first, it looke like they were trying to dress like children.

Now I'm used to it, but even so, I have to remind myself not to chuckle
when I see someone living in an apartment complex or sub-division
wearing a cowboy hat, boots, hand tooled belt and silver belt buckle.

And don't even get me started on string ties.

George L

George Leppla wrote:
>
> And don't even get me started on string ties.
>
LOL Some years ago we were visiting my wife's aunt and uncle out west
and we were taking them out for dinner. Seems there was a dress code and
I did not have a tie, so the uncle loaned me his good silver and
turquoise bolo. I was a right duded up cowboy. I always thought that
the requirement for a man's tie was goofy, but stunned that a string tie
would fit the bill.

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/15/2010 8:44 AM, brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>
>> Btw, Stetson hats are still made in America.... far from inexpensive
>> but certain folks are willing to pay to wear a legend.
>> http://www.stetson.com/
>>
>> Interesting:
>> http://www.stetsonhat.com/video.php
>
>
> When I moved here to the South, one of the th9ings that was hard for me to
> get used to is that there are a large number of men who actually wear
> cowboy hats on a daily basis. Not that there is anything wrong with
> that... but at first, it looke like they were trying to dress like
> children.
>
> Now I'm used to it, but even so, I have to remind myself not to chuckle
> when I see someone living in an apartment complex or sub-division wearing
> a cowboy hat, boots, hand tooled belt and silver belt buckle.
>
> And don't even get me started on string ties.
>
> George L

You forgot bolo ties.

brooklyn1 wrote:

>> I went to a ladies group meeting yesterday and the guest speaker was a
>> young woman in her 30's with a passion for millinery (aka "hats"). She
>> spoke about the history of hats but also displayed the tools and
>> supplies used in hat making. She said the US has just lost its last felt
>> manufacturer, and that many other supplies (specific to hat making) have
>> become much harder to find. It was sort of sad to think something as
>> common as felt now has to also be imported.
>
> Not true, none of it... there are still plenty of felt hat
> manufacturers in NYC, mostly ladies hats.

But the FELT MAKERS are gone! Not the hat makers using the felt who have
to now obtain their felt from overseas.
>
>> On the radio today they announced the US's last remaining sardine plant
>> in Maine was closing, and mentioned the competition it had with Asian
>> sardine plants.

> Folks in the US don't eat sardines
> much anymore either, not since the advent of modern fast food... when
> I was growing up canned fish was fast food... a sardine sandwich was
> typical school kid's lunchbox fare, brown bagger adults as well, it
> was low cost, high nutrition, and fast for moms to prepare. Very few
> people in the US eat sardines nowadays (sardines are mostly a staple
> of the newly arrived immigrants) even shelf space devoted to tuna (and
> all canned fish) is diminishing rapidly.... when those who do eat
> sardines see the prices they no longer buy... sardines once a peasant
> food are now considered a luxury food. US fish cannerys put
> themselves out of business by exessesive profiteering.

My father loved sardine sandwiches. Another sandwich he loved was a
fried potato/onion/pepper sandwich. He said you could always tell the
Italian kids lunches as the oil from the sandwich would start to stain
the paper bag.

On 4/15/2010 9:38 AM, Goomba wrote:
> My father loved sardine sandwiches. Another sandwich he loved was a
> fried potato/onion/pepper sandwich. He said you could always tell the
> Italian kids lunches as the oil from the sandwich would start to stain
> the paper bag.

When I was a kid, I would eat sardines on crackers. The neighborhood
kids would say "Ewww!", but I didn't care, I loved it. I even squeezed a
little fresh lemon juice on it.

Becca

On 4/14/2010 10:09 PM, Ms P wrote:
> The one I remember was the yarn mill and the woman proudly proclaiming
> that "Walmart saved my job!" Bet she doesn't have that good job now.
>
> Ms P


Ms P, I remember that. Walmart also ran "Made in America" commercials,
showing where sweaters and similar items were made at a factory in the US.

My first husband would have had a cow if I ever shopped in Walmart.
Now, I will go into Walmart every 3-4 months, but not very often.

Becca

On Apr 15, 4:24*pm, Becca > wrote:
> On 4/14/2010 10:09 PM, Ms P wrote:
>
> > The one I remember was the yarn mill and the woman proudly proclaiming
> > that "Walmart saved my job!" *Bet she doesn't have that good job now.
>
> > Ms P
>
> Ms P, I remember that. *Walmart also ran "Made in America" commercials,
> showing where sweaters and similar items were made at a factory in the US..
>
> My first husband would have had a cow if I ever shopped in Walmart. *
> Now, I will go into Walmart every 3-4 months, but not very often.

On those occasions where you do shop there, do you muse on the idea of
said "first husband" giving birth to a bovine?
>
> Becca

--Bryan

ImStillMags wrote:
> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
> themselves as "buy American".
>
> Anyone remember that?
>
> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.

That was Sam Walton. He has since passed on to his reward, and the
members of the next generation who have taken over the corporation have
a totally different mindset.

"Samantha Hill" > wrote in message
...
> ImStillMags wrote:
>> Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
>> They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
>> themselves as "buy American".
>>
>> Anyone remember that?
>>
>> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>
> That was Sam Walton. He has since passed on to his reward, and the
> members of the next generation who have taken over the corporation have a
> totally different mindset.



They certainly do have a different mindset. I'd bet Sam would roll over in
his grave if he could see what has happened to his legacy.

Jill

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:18:59 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
>They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
>themselves as "buy American".
>
>Anyone remember that?

I sure do. Back in the 80's when folks were buying into the
advertising BS the unions were spreading news of their evil nature.
At first they said just make sure what you bought was american made
but eventually it went to a boycott. I've never blindly accepted
union propaganda and at first thought it was extreme but it didn't
take long to see how spot on they were. Obviously they've made a
boatload of money without my patronage but I won't support their evil
ways.

>I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>
>Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.

I like the "live better" line.

Lou

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:44:45 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:18:59 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>>Does anyone else remember when Wal Mart was first getting started ?
>>They advertised with red white and blue, stars and stripes and touted
>>themselves as "buy American".
>>
>>Anyone remember that?
>
> I sure do. Back in the 80's when folks were buying into the
> advertising BS the unions were spreading news of their evil nature.
> At first they said just make sure what you bought was american made
> but eventually it went to a boycott. I've never blindly accepted
> union propaganda and at first thought it was extreme but it didn't
> take long to see how spot on they were. Obviously they've made a
> boatload of money without my patronage but I won't support their evil
> ways.

lou, you pinko, you!

your pal,
blake

Lou Decruss wrote:

> I sure do. Back in the 80's when folks were buying into the
> advertising BS the unions were spreading news of their evil nature.
> At first they said just make sure what you bought was american made
> but eventually it went to a boycott. I've never blindly accepted
> union propaganda and at first thought it was extreme but it didn't
> take long to see how spot on they were. Obviously they've made a
> boatload of money without my patronage but I won't support their evil
> ways.


Yep. That was about the time that unions were trying to get control over
their pension funds and the right slanted business people swore up and
down that the unions were all corrupt and would steal the money. It is
curious how things turned out. It seems that the unions are doing a
better job of their pensions funds than the companies did. When teachers
went on strike here the government whined that they teachers' pension
fund was too powerful. And now it turns out that it is the companies
that have been messing up pension funds.


>> I find it ironic and amusing in a sad kind of way.
>>
>> Personally, I don't shop Wal Mart. I just can't take the 'vibe'.
>
> I like the "live better" line.


I confess that I went into on last fall to buy Halloween costume and
picked up something for about $15. They won't be getting rich of me.