On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:17:45 -0400, blake murphy wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:31:52 -0500, George Shirley wrote:
>
>>>
>> The local paper does that, everything is computerize there. I get a kick
>> out of looking for humorous typos every day. DW does the crossword
>> puzzle, I do the re-editing.
>
> when the newspapers' revenues began shrinking, the first positions they cut
> were proofreaders and copy editors. the washington *post* (my local paper)
> has become downright appalling.
>
> to paraphrase daffy duck: uh-oh, homonym trouble.
>
> your pal,
> blake

shit, the ironclad law of grammar nazis strikes again. that should read
'homophone trouble.'

ypb

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:22:42 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:29:12 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >>> I don't have any trolls killfiled since they change their names so
> >>> often. I killfile their whole domain - usually Google, aioe, and
> >>> the various remailers.
> >
> >> i still thinks that's using a meat-axe rather than a scalpel, but to each
> >> his own.
> >>
> >> but i also 'mark read' rather than kill 'em outright. i'm such a pussy.
> >
> > What's the difference? Now, my newsreader doesn't save posts, so maybe
> > that's it.
>
> with 40tude dialog (and others, i'm sure) the 'delete' action means you
> don't see the post at all - it's not downloaded from the news server.
> 'mark read' means when you do the 'read next' option, it skips over a post
> marked read. it just treats the post as something you've already read and
> skips over it. so if you want to check and see, say, whether andy's off
> his meds again you can take a deliberate action to read his posts by
> clicking on them.
>
> i hope that's clear, but i fear it's not. if it's not, ask about what's
> unclear and i'll try again.

I think I have it clear now. There appear to be three things involved:

1. the headers
2. the actual posts
3. the file that keeps track of what has been read

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:50:48 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>i hope that's clear, but i fear it's not. if it's not, ask about what's
>unclear and i'll try again.

Why mark read when you can kill? Who cares if Andy is off his meds or
not? If you don't want to read him, kill him. Why torture yourself?
When I don't want to read someone they are gone until I take them out
of the kill file. Marking and offensive poster as read is one of
those namby pamby actions I just don't understand.

The only time I deliberately mark messages read is when I'm done
reading a thread, haven't read every response for whatever reason, and
don't want to delete them but want to clearly see where the new
responses are the next time I get new headers.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 2010-04-21 07:15:50 -0700, sf said:

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:50:48 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>> i hope that's clear, but i fear it's not. if it's not, ask about what's
>> unclear and i'll try again.
>
> Why mark read when you can kill? Who cares if Andy is off his meds or
> not? If you don't want to read him, kill him. Why torture yourself?
> When I don't want to read someone they are gone until I take them out
> of the kill file. Marking and offensive poster as read is one of
> those namby pamby actions I just don't understand.

As I puzzle through this bizarre buffet, I note there are some folk
that spew invective about half the time, and potentially noteworthy
cooking-related chat the rest.

It's difficult to killfile every last irritant. You have much more
manageable volume hereabouts, but you begin to sense you might be
missing something useful scattered among the bickering.

> The only time I deliberately mark messages read is when I'm done
> reading a thread, haven't read every response for whatever reason, and
> don't want to delete them but want to clearly see where the new
> responses are the next time I get new headers.

After I've perused the current load, bouncing past topics that aren't
about cooking, I mark all read before exiting the program.
--
If you limit your actions in life to things that nobody can possibly
find fault with, you will not do much. -- Lewis Carroll

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:15:50 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:50:48 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>i hope that's clear, but i fear it's not. if it's not, ask about what's
>>unclear and i'll try again.
>
> Why mark read when you can kill? Who cares if Andy is off his meds or
> not? If you don't want to read him, kill him. Why torture yourself?
> When I don't want to read someone they are gone until I take them out
> of the kill file. Marking and offensive poster as read is one of
> those namby pamby actions I just don't understand.

sometimes i have a taste for goofballs. also, it makes it easier to see
when the criterion you've set up is catching people you didn't intend to
killfile.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

>
> sometimes i have a taste for goofballs. also, it makes it easier to
> see when the criterion you've set up is catching people you didn't
> intend to killfile.

Just in case you're interested... finally got around to firing up a
windoze VM today and installing 40tude on it (curiosity and all that).
The default GUI looked a bit different from my other newsreaders (until
I figured out how to change the layout <g>). However, I am happy to say
that I don't think I'm missing out on any major filtering functionality
that I don't already have in my current newsreaders; case of 6 of one
and half a dozen of the other, as they say. And it's also free
for 'home users', which is cool. However, it lacked a couple of
other 'nice-to-haves' that I'd miss - probably very minor stuff to
anybody else, but important to me, *personally*. Maybe if I messed
around with it some more I'd figure out a way to 'switch them on' but
why bother?

So no, I'm now definitely not fussed about not being able to have 40tude
as a regular newsreader.

[And before anybody wants to know WTF "VM" means: it's an acronym
for "Virtual Machine" (and if you dunno what that is - GIYF).]
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

sf wrote:
>
> Why mark read when you can kill? Who cares if Andy is off his meds or
> not? If you don't want to read him, kill him. Why torture yourself?

Marking an article read keeps the thread tree intact and I might chose
to look at the articles that are marked read.

Killing an article, in my newsreader, tends to flatten the tree more
than I expect. Because there are "missing" articles in the references
list posts below the killed post get displayed linked to the next
avaliable message up the tree.

The difference between the two display methods is usually small but
someone used to the tree display should be able to tell the difference.
Caring about the difference is quite another matter.

Also killed messages are not downloaded and that's faster.

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:07:04 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>>
>> sometimes i have a taste for goofballs. also, it makes it easier to
>> see when the criterion you've set up is catching people you didn't
>> intend to killfile.
>
> Just in case you're interested... finally got around to firing up a
> windoze VM today and installing 40tude on it (curiosity and all that).
> The default GUI looked a bit different from my other newsreaders (until
> I figured out how to change the layout <g>). However, I am happy to say
> that I don't think I'm missing out on any major filtering functionality
> that I don't already have in my current newsreaders; case of 6 of one
> and half a dozen of the other, as they say. And it's also free
> for 'home users', which is cool. However, it lacked a couple of
> other 'nice-to-haves' that I'd miss - probably very minor stuff to
> anybody else, but important to me, *personally*. Maybe if I messed
> around with it some more I'd figure out a way to 'switch them on' but
> why bother?
>
> So no, I'm now definitely not fussed about not being able to have 40tude
> as a regular newsreader.
>
> [And before anybody wants to know WTF "VM" means: it's an acronym
> for "Virtual Machine" (and if you dunno what that is - GIYF).]

as you like, of course. but my reply was to sf asking why you'd mark
someone read rather than killing them outright, which i think is an option
for many newsreaders.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

>
> as you like, of course. but my reply was to sf asking why you'd mark
> someone read rather than killing them outright, which i think is an
> option for many newsreaders.

I generally use the mark as read option too. Have used the 'delete post'
option in the past, but I find the former option just as effective -
and it doesn't create 'disjointed' threads. JMO.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Apr 20, 11:07*am, sf > wrote:
>
> I haven't seen anyone whine or bellyache about it, they were just
> comments. *Man, you've been wimpy lately. *

You labor under the assumption that I actually give two shits about
your opinion.

You're welcome.

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:25:15 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote:

>On Apr 20, 11:07*am, sf > wrote:
>>
>> I haven't seen anyone whine or bellyache about it, they were just
>> comments. *Man, you've been wimpy lately. *
>
>You labor under the assumption that I actually give two shits about
>your opinion.
>
>You're welcome.

....butt, butt you keep replying to them

PVC wrote to sf:

>> I haven't seen anyone whine or bellyache about it, they were just
>> comments. Man, you've been wimpy lately.
>
> You labor under the assumption that I actually give two shits about your
> opinion.

....and considering the size of PVC's ass, two shits would be enough to
fertilize every cornfield in Nebraska!

Bob

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:56:21 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>sometimes i have a taste for goofballs. also, it makes it easier to see
>when the criterion you've set up is catching people you didn't intend to
>killfile.

Well, I have a problem... I've killed George Leppla, but none of the
other Georges are gone. I didn't kill "George" or any part of his
last name. It's driving me bananas! I do remember killing a troll a
long time ago that took GL out too, but I've deleted that filter and
have read him again in the mean time. Lately he's been gone.... hmmm.
Oh, Georgie - are you doing things you shouldn't be doing?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:56:21 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>sometimes i have a taste for goofballs. also, it makes it easier to see
>>when the criterion you've set up is catching people you didn't intend to
>>killfile.
>
> Well, I have a problem... I've killed George Leppla, but none of the
> other Georges are gone. I didn't kill "George" or any part of his
> last name. It's driving me bananas! I do remember killing a troll a
> long time ago that took GL out too, but I've deleted that filter and
> have read him again in the mean time. Lately he's been gone.... hmmm.
> Oh, Georgie - are you doing things you shouldn't be doing?

You could just ignore posts from those people you don't like.......

--
--
https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:44:30 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:56:21 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>sometimes i have a taste for goofballs. also, it makes it easier to see
>>when the criterion you've set up is catching people you didn't intend to
>>killfile.
>
> Well, I have a problem... I've killed George Leppla, but none of the
> other Georges are gone. I didn't kill "George" or any part of his
> last name. It's driving me bananas! I do remember killing a troll a
> long time ago that took GL out too, but I've deleted that filter and
> have read him again in the mean time. Lately he's been gone.... hmmm.
> Oh, Georgie - are you doing things you shouldn't be doing?

as i recall, with agent you could 'pass' his address to skip any other test
and let him through.

it seem to me i've seen him once or twice in the last couple days.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:45:29 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:56:21 -0400, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>sometimes i have a taste for goofballs. also, it makes it easier to see
>>>when the criterion you've set up is catching people you didn't intend to
>>>killfile.
>>
>> Well, I have a problem... I've killed George Leppla, but none of the
>> other Georges are gone. I didn't kill "George" or any part of his
>> last name. It's driving me bananas! I do remember killing a troll a
>> long time ago that took GL out too, but I've deleted that filter and
>> have read him again in the mean time. Lately he's been gone.... hmmm.
>> Oh, Georgie - are you doing things you shouldn't be doing?
>
>You could just ignore posts from those people you don't like.......
>
Are you suggesting I killed him on purpose or that I shouldn't use a
kill file? I started using a kill file when the Dr. Chung thing was
in full swing and I've never looked back I really do *not* want to
see spam or trolls and I don't with my filters set the way they are
now. I don't even see the trolls who spoof regulars in uk.f+d.misc
and, so unlike you... I don't respond to them.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:45:47 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:44:30 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:56:21 -0400, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>sometimes i have a taste for goofballs. also, it makes it easier to see
>>>when the criterion you've set up is catching people you didn't intend to
>>>killfile.
>>
>> Well, I have a problem... I've killed George Leppla, but none of the
>> other Georges are gone. I didn't kill "George" or any part of his
>> last name. It's driving me bananas! I do remember killing a troll a
>> long time ago that took GL out too, but I've deleted that filter and
>> have read him again in the mean time. Lately he's been gone.... hmmm.
>> Oh, Georgie - are you doing things you shouldn't be doing?
>
>as i recall, with agent you could 'pass' his address to skip any other test
>and let him through.
>
>it seem to me i've seen him once or twice in the last couple days.
>
I've done that with troll/spammers like Steve of the many numbers. I
killed "Steve" and allowed the steves I wanted to see, BUT I'm not
sure I can do that with George unless I kill the name and allow his
address. I have a filter that is taking him out and it's one that is
complicated, but I don't know which one it is.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

>>You could just ignore posts from those people you don't like.......
>>
> Are you suggesting I killed him on purpose or that I shouldn't use a
> kill file?

Which bit of my previous sentence makes any such suggestion?

I don't even see the trolls who spoof regulars in uk.f+d.misc
> and, so unlike you... I don't respond to them.

That is your privilege madam, just as it is mine to do as *I* wish

--
--
https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

"sf" > wrote in message
...

Anyway, why are you not in China? I have a bottle here with your name on
it.

--
--
https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

ChattyCathy wrote:

> However, I'd also place blame on the (human) proofreader in this case -
> I mean nobody's perfect, but this turned out to be a rather expensive
> and highly embarrassing mistake for the publisher concerned. Have a
> feeling this particular proofreader got lazy and only proofread the
> method/instructions of the recipes, because (s)he thought (wrongly)
> that the ingredients lists could not possibly have any mistakes (or it
> didn't really matter if they did)...

As a professional copy editor and proofreader, I'd also say that *every*
project goes to press with some mistakes, no matter how many people
proof it. It's just the nature of the beast that some errors (especially
words and phrases we see all the time and are expecting to be a certain
way, like "black pepper") are hard to spot in a large work.

I'd bet a hundred dollars that there's at least one other typo in the
book, but it's just not something incendiary. If it had said "black
peepers" or something, it wouldn't even be a news story.

(Also, I don't know when the book was edited/proofed, but it's a fact
that in recent years, budget cuts have meant that every publisher I know
of has slashed its editing/proofing staff, and proofers are overworked
if they're there at all. See
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/st...2/dear-reader/ )

ObFood: Broccoli and zucchini in the farm box means tonight's dinner
will be simple spaghetti with lots of veggies.

Serene

--
"I tend to come down on the side of autonomy. Once people are grown up,
I believe they have the right to go to hell in the handbasket of their
choosing." -- Pat Kight, on alt.polyamory

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:16:13 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:45:47 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:44:30 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:56:21 -0400, blake murphy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>sometimes i have a taste for goofballs. also, it makes it easier to see
>>>>when the criterion you've set up is catching people you didn't intend to
>>>>killfile.
>>>
>>> Well, I have a problem... I've killed George Leppla, but none of the
>>> other Georges are gone. I didn't kill "George" or any part of his
>>> last name. It's driving me bananas! I do remember killing a troll a
>>> long time ago that took GL out too, but I've deleted that filter and
>>> have read him again in the mean time. Lately he's been gone.... hmmm.
>>> Oh, Georgie - are you doing things you shouldn't be doing?
>>
>>as i recall, with agent you could 'pass' his address to skip any other test
>>and let him through.
>>
>>it seem to me i've seen him once or twice in the last couple days.
>>
> I've done that with troll/spammers like Steve of the many numbers. I
> killed "Steve" and allowed the steves I wanted to see, BUT I'm not
> sure I can do that with George unless I kill the name and allow his
> address. I have a filter that is taking him out and it's one that is
> complicated, but I don't know which one it is.

right. but what i'm saying is that you 'pass' him, using the full name and
address as one of the first entries in your filter list, and as i recall,
agent does not apply any further tests to the post.

your pal,
blake

Serene Vannoy wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>> However, I'd also place blame on the (human) proofreader in this case
>> - I mean nobody's perfect, but this turned out to be a rather
>> expensive and highly embarrassing mistake for the publisher
>> concerned. Have a feeling this particular proofreader got lazy and
>> only proofread the method/instructions of the recipes, because (s)he
>> thought (wrongly) that the ingredients lists could not possibly have
>> any mistakes (or it didn't really matter if they did)...
>
> As a professional copy editor and proofreader, I'd also say that
> *every* project goes to press with some mistakes, no matter how many
> people proof it. It's just the nature of the beast that some errors
> (especially words and phrases we see all the time and are expecting to
> be a certain way, like "black pepper") are hard to spot in a large
> work.
>
> I'd bet a hundred dollars that there's at least one other typo in the
> book, but it's just not something incendiary. If it had said "black
> peepers" or something, it wouldn't even be a news story.

What I was getting at is this: if you've read the OP (and a few other
posts in this thread) it's pretty clear that some people thought the
entire "oops" was because of the 'spell checker' - which was patently
not true; whoever typed up the draft(s) must have made a typo in the
first place, and the spokesperson for the publishers (in the various
news articles about it) admitted that the proofreader(s) missed said
mistake too. And yes, as you say if it had been some innocuous mistake,
probably nobody would have made a fuss. However, with people being
so 'oversensitive' to crap like this these days - it turned into a Big
Hoo-Ha. Furthermore, I'm willing to bet *you* that the next time
somebody proofreads a cookbook in that particular publishing house
they'll be eyeballing any references to 'salt & people' with extra
care ;-)

>
> (Also, I don't know when the book was edited/proofed, but it's a fact
> that in recent years, budget cuts have meant that every publisher I
> know of has slashed its editing/proofing staff, and proofers are
> overworked if they're there at all. See
> http://www.columbiamissourian.com/st...2/dear-reader/ )


Doesn't surprise me, but proofreaders are not the only people who are
overworked on the planet; budget cuts which result in staff lay-offs
also happens in many other industries... Anyway, hopefully, this
particular mistake was not 'life-threatening' <sorry, couldn't help
myself> and I'm also willing to bet that the proofreader(s) concerned
didn't get fired for it.

>
> ObFood: Broccoli and zucchini in the farm box means tonight's dinner
> will be simple spaghetti with lots of veggies.

Nothing wrong with that, IMHO. Jack went on a shopping expedition to our
favorite fishmongers today - so I'm looking forward to some pan-fried
souls - um, I mean *soles* tonight. Yum.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

ChattyCathy wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>

>> ObFood: Broccoli and zucchini in the farm box means tonight's dinner
>> will be simple spaghetti with lots of veggies.
>
> Nothing wrong with that, IMHO.

And then I went to the store for coffee and came home with the
wherewithal to make dinner a little fancier, just because I'm in the
mood to cook.

The menu:

Whole-wheat spaghetti with tomato-and-vegetable sauce
Steamed broccoli
Sauteed zucchini
Stuffed mushrooms
Garlic ciabatta
Salad of watercress, thinly-sliced bartlett pear, and small cubes of
some fancy cheese that I bought a tiny bit of (forget what kind at the
moment)

Serene
--
"I tend to come down on the side of autonomy. Once people are grown up,
I believe they have the right to go to hell in the handbasket of their
choosing." -- Pat Kight, on alt.polyamory

Serene Vannoy wrote:
> ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>> However, I'd also place blame on the (human) proofreader in this case -
>> I mean nobody's perfect, but this turned out to be a rather expensive
>> and highly embarrassing mistake for the publisher concerned. Have a
>> feeling this particular proofreader got lazy and only proofread the
>> method/instructions of the recipes, because (s)he thought (wrongly)
>> that the ingredients lists could not possibly have any mistakes (or it
>> didn't really matter if they did)...
>
> As a professional copy editor and proofreader, I'd also say that *every*
> project goes to press with some mistakes, no matter how many people
> proof it. It's just the nature of the beast that some errors (especially
> words and phrases we see all the time and are expecting to be a certain
> way, like "black pepper") are hard to spot in a large work.
>
> I'd bet a hundred dollars that there's at least one other typo in the
> book, but it's just not something incendiary. If it had said "black
> peepers" or something, it wouldn't even be a news story.
>
> (Also, I don't know when the book was edited/proofed, but it's a fact
> that in recent years, budget cuts have meant that every publisher I know
> of has slashed its editing/proofing staff, and proofers are overworked
> if they're there at all. See
> http://www.columbiamissourian.com/st...2/dear-reader/ )
>
> ObFood: Broccoli and zucchini in the farm box means tonight's dinner
> will be simple spaghetti with lots of veggies.
>
> Serene
>

I bet you are wrong....

--
Jean B.

Jean B. wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote:

>> I'd bet a hundred dollars that there's at least one other typo in the
>> book, but it's just not something incendiary. If it had said "black
>> peepers" or something, it wouldn't even be a news story.
>
> I bet you are wrong....

If you're serious, I'll try to get a copy of the book, and if I can find
another typo in it, you owe me a hundred dollars (US). If I can't, I
owe you a hundred dollars. Are we on?

Serene
--
"I tend to come down on the side of autonomy. Once people are grown up,
I believe they have the right to go to hell in the handbasket of their
choosing." -- Pat Kight, on alt.polyamory

Serene Vannoy wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>
>>> I'd bet a hundred dollars that there's at least one other typo in the
>>> book, but it's just not something incendiary. If it had said "black
>>> peepers" or something, it wouldn't even be a news story.
>>
>> I bet you are wrong....
>
> If you're serious, I'll try to get a copy of the book, and if I can find
> another typo in it, you owe me a hundred dollars (US). If I can't, I
> owe you a hundred dollars. Are we on?
>
> Serene

Which book? Maybe so. (I hope I can still do that... <g>)

--
Jean B.

"Serene Vannoy" > wrote
>
> As a professional copy editor and proofreader, I'd also say that *every*
> project goes to press with some mistakes, no matter how many people proof
> it. It's just the nature of the beast that some errors (especially words
> and phrases we see all the time and are expecting to be a certain way,
> like "black pepper") are hard to spot in a large work.

I agree with you. A couple of years ago, I received in the mail a nice
color printed brochure for a commercial painting contractor. A few nice
photos, catchy headline, but the rest was not proofed at all. It was
loaded with a bunch of simple typos, such as th3e, fro (for for) that are
easily made by anyone typing faster than they should. I emailed the owner
and told him I'd never trust a company to paint my building if they could
not catch simple errors. Needless to say, the wrong file was used and not
caught by the printer and the company owner was very embarrassed with the
mailing of a couple of thousand of them.

Jean B. wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>>
>>>> I'd bet a hundred dollars that there's at least one other typo in
>>>> the book, but it's just not something incendiary. If it had said
>>>> "black peepers" or something, it wouldn't even be a news story.
>>>
>>> I bet you are wrong....
>>
>> If you're serious, I'll try to get a copy of the book, and if I can
>> find another typo in it, you owe me a hundred dollars (US). If I
>> can't, I owe you a hundred dollars. Are we on?
>>
>> Serene
>
> Which book? Maybe so. (I hope I can still do that... <g>)

Pasta Bible, the one in the story that started this thread.

Serene

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"I tend to come down on the side of autonomy. Once people are grown up,
I believe they have the right to go to hell in the handbasket of their
choosing." -- Pat Kight, on alt.polyamory

Serene Vannoy wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>>> Jean B. wrote:
>>>> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'd bet a hundred dollars that there's at least one other typo in
>>>>> the book, but it's just not something incendiary. If it had said
>>>>> "black peepers" or something, it wouldn't even be a news story.
>>>>
>>>> I bet you are wrong....
>>>
>>> If you're serious, I'll try to get a copy of the book, and if I can
>>> find another typo in it, you owe me a hundred dollars (US). If I
>>> can't, I owe you a hundred dollars. Are we on?
>>>
>>> Serene
>>
>> Which book? Maybe so. (I hope I can still do that... <g>)
>
> Pasta Bible, the one in the story that started this thread.
>
> Serene
>
How long is that, anyway? I was thinking about this last night,
and it would have to be after I moved. Actually, it probably isn't
worth $100 to spend as much time on that as I would have to. That
is not to say that I don't stand by what I said. I was a crack
proofreader (and editor--I prefer proofreading) and would have
been suicidal if my work contained errors.

We shall see, Serene. Feel free to email me.

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Jean B.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:44:36 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:
>
>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>
>Anyway, why are you not in China? I have a bottle here with your name on
>it.
>
>--
I *am* in China, but I'm not posting about it. Because of the
censorship in China, I can't access Facebook, Picasa, Photobucket or
Flickr so I can't post links to albums and I can only go a little way
with tinypic... but I've been too busy to organize my pictures anyway
so it's a moot point. I log into the chat channel (when I have
internet access) early morning and late evening Bejing time, but you
don't do chat so I can't keep you updated that way.

I was in Lhasa for the last two days, which should have been three -
but all flights were cancelled due to a sandstorm. Frankly, I'd never
thought about sand at 11,000 ft. I went to 16,000 ft today - weird
sensation: my entire face tingled. I took a picture of what I thought
was the highest public toilet in the world, but Flickr has one that
says 17,000. I got the caption part but not pictures - censorship is
weird. Frankly I was shocked I could access usenet. Anyway, I also
took a picture of the bottle of Lhasa beer that was served at lunch,
but I have no way to post it. One person on the trip says she can
access her personal web site, but I don't have one so that's no help.

We're back in Szechwan province now (city of Chengdu), where we
finally had a meal made without a lot of oil and salt. We're off to
the panda preserve tomorrow. Thanks for asking.

As they say in Tibet calee shoo! (spelled phonetically, of course) It
means "be good" but it's their way of saying goodbye.


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I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:33:56 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>right. but what i'm saying is that you 'pass' him, using the full name and
>address as one of the first entries in your filter list, and as i recall,
>agent does not apply any further tests to the post.

Ok, thanks blake. I'm going to have to ask how to do it in the Forte
ng. I know I can create a kill filter and then make exceptions to it,
but I don't know anything about making a separate exception filter.
In fact, I don't even know how to move entries up and down. I make
them and they appear somewhere. They seem to be grouped. I don't ask
questions because it works, but this george leppla thing is baffling.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:44:36 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>Anyway, why are you not in China? I have a bottle here with your name on
>>it.
>>
>>--
> I *am* in China, but I'm not posting about it. Because of the
> censorship in China, I can't access Facebook, Picasa, Photobucket or
> Flickr so I can't post links to albums and I can only go a little way
> with tinypic... but I've been too busy to organize my pictures anyway
> so it's a moot point. I log into the chat channel (when I have
> internet access) early morning and late evening Bejing time, but you
> don't do chat so I can't keep you updated that way.
>
> I was in Lhasa for the last two days, which should have been three -
> but all flights were cancelled due to a sandstorm. Frankly, I'd never
> thought about sand at 11,000 ft. I went to 16,000 ft today - weird
> sensation: my entire face tingled. I took a picture of what I thought
> was the highest public toilet in the world, but Flickr has one that
> says 17,000. I got the caption part but not pictures - censorship is
> weird. Frankly I was shocked I could access usenet. Anyway, I also
> took a picture of the bottle of Lhasa beer that was served at lunch,
> but I have no way to post it. One person on the trip says she can
> access her personal web site, but I don't have one so that's no help.
>
> We're back in Szechwan province now (city of Chengdu), where we
> finally had a meal made without a lot of oil and salt. We're off to
> the panda preserve tomorrow. Thanks for asking.
>
> As they say in Tibet calee shoo! (spelled phonetically, of course) It
> means "be good" but it's their way of saying goodbye.

heh well enjoy

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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:07:07 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:33:56 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>right. but what i'm saying is that you 'pass' him, using the full name and
>>address as one of the first entries in your filter list, and as i recall,
>>agent does not apply any further tests to the post.
>
> Ok, thanks blake. I'm going to have to ask how to do it in the Forte
> ng. I know I can create a kill filter and then make exceptions to it,
> but I don't know anything about making a separate exception filter.

it's not really 'separate,' but if you put the exception first, the rest of
the statements are bypassed, if i remember correctly. if you were to put
it last, george would have already been caught.

> In fact, I don't even know how to move entries up and down. I make
> them and they appear somewhere. They seem to be grouped. I don't ask
> questions because it works, but this george leppla thing is baffling.

o.k., good luck.

i don't have agent installed on this machine (i had it on the previous) or
i could be a little more explicit, or at least more sure it can be made to
work that way.

e-mail me if you get stuck.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:25:54 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:07:07 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:33:56 -0400, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>right. but what i'm saying is that you 'pass' him, using the full name and
>>>address as one of the first entries in your filter list, and as i recall,
>>>agent does not apply any further tests to the post.
>>
>> Ok, thanks blake. I'm going to have to ask how to do it in the Forte
>> ng. I know I can create a kill filter and then make exceptions to it,
>> but I don't know anything about making a separate exception filter.
>
>it's not really 'separate,' but if you put the exception first, the rest of
>the statements are bypassed, if i remember correctly. if you were to put
>it last, george would have already been caught.
>
>> In fact, I don't even know how to move entries up and down. I make
>> them and they appear somewhere. They seem to be grouped. I don't ask
>> questions because it works, but this george leppla thing is baffling.
>
>o.k., good luck.
>
>i don't have agent installed on this machine (i had it on the previous) or
>i could be a little more explicit, or at least more sure it can be made to
>work that way.
>
>e-mail me if you get stuck.
>
Thanks, I'll work on it when I get back to the States.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.