cybercat wrote:

> Under the circumstances you may want to change your sig.

Why? I still plan on getting back to trucking :-)

I hadn't realized this was a crossposted thread to RFC; I would have skipped
replying altogether.

--
Dave
What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before
you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan

"Dave Bugg" > writes:

> Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>
> > I had traction but not the injections. I got onto the moist heat
> > thing when I realized how much the hot pack treatments helped during
> > PT. You can't beat those hot wet sandbags they use for deep heat
> > therapy.
> > The best muscle relaxant IMO, if your doc will fork it over, is
> > valium, just for long enough to get things settled down, i.e., 3-6
> > weeks. Fortunately I haven't had a bout that severe in ten years. Now
> > if it starts to flare, a couple days of cyclobenzaprine and some hot
> > wet towels will do the trick.
> > I was told by the first neuro I saw that the body will heal itself in
> > many cases if you can tolerate and manage the pain while it happens,
> > and that many of the surgeries are done to relieve pain more than to
> > prevent serious damage. Quote "I'd like to stay out of your neck." It's
> > hard to accept when you're dealing with raw nerve pain shooting
> > through your shoulder and down through your arm and elbow, but in
> > hindsight it was the wisest thing anyone told me in nearly 20 years
> > of dealing with it.
> > I can't say it's completely healed but it's certainly not anywhere
> > near the problem it used to be. It was so bad I couldn't even ride in
> > a car without cringing in pain every time it hit a small bump.
> >
> > I figure it will probably go bad again sooner or later, but I'm
> > betting on a less medieval surgical option being available by that
> > time. They have a less invasive laproscopic procedure with much less
> > chance of post surgical complications, but they wouldn't consider
> > using it in the C vertebrae because of the close proximity to the
> > spinal cord. Hopefully if I have to get cut someday, they will have
> > refined this procedure. I know they already have an artificial
> > material to replace the cadaver bone insertion but I don't know much
> > more about it than that.
>
> I had no idea that I have so much company with back issues. My first back
> surgery last June corrected impingement of nerves in the lumbar region which
> were so severe that I was periodically losing muscle control in my legs...
> and the pain was becoming unbearable. The surgery did the job for the muscle
> control issues. But despite several round with injections, lots of physical
> therapy, and oral meds the pain is still hanging on and has been getting
> worse.
>
> A brand new MRI ( the second since the surgery) now reveals another disc
> herniation in the lower lumbar that is impinging on the nerves, along with
> two areas of severe narrowing at two places in the canal. Since I am
> beginning to have new symptoms in my legs, along with the severe flashes of
> lightening bolt pain and the constant, high-level pain, there was no doubt
> that another surgery was needed. And this was from an orthopedic surgeon
> who, until he saw the MRI, really didn't believe that surgery was a good
> option.
>
> So, I am scheduled for surgery on May 11. This will be more extensive than
> the first, covering three different areas in the lumbar area. The disc will
> be removed and the two vertebrae affected will be fused. The two areas that
> are narrowed will be 'reamed' to enlarge the canal in order to relieve the
> compression on the nerves. In order to accomplish the surgery, the back
> muscles will be extensively moved around. I'm really glad I'll be
> anesthe-oblivious.
>
> Physical therapy, to regain fitness in the back muscles, will take a bit
> longer than before. I am prepared to take that challenge on, especially if
> the current pain is mostly eliminated. I really need to get back to work and
> to be able to get things done around the house that have been neglected for
> so long.


Best of luck with the surgery.

And stick to your PT resolution. I lost most of the 08/09 ski season
to back pain, and finally had an MRI last summer. Severe hernia between
L5 and S1.

PT has held it fully in check. I have been at full activity for 9 months,
and no pain. I do the PT work 5-6 times a week. My core is now really
strong. I have even taken up running again, and getting better times than
I have in years.

PT Rules!

Good luck,


--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.food.barbecue...)

In article >,
Bogbrush > wrote:

> Omelet > writes:
>
> > In article >,
> > "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >> news > >> > In article >,
> >> > "Dave Bugg" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I had no idea that I have so much company with back issues.
> >> >
> >> > Seems to be part of walking upright.
> >>
> >> At least the upright part can be easily remedied. It's hard to keep people
> >> from stepping on your fingers in a crowd though. However I found that the
> >> right dosage of alcohol will help keep that problem from becoming too
> >> bothersome. If fact, it seems to encourage the whole kneewalking thing.
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> MartyB
> >
> > <lol>
> >
> > I don't have a drinking problem!
> > I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, no problem! ;-)
>
> You didn't just repeat that did you? Ye gods.

It was a joke, son, a joke I say!
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In article >,
Cleatarrior > wrote:

> >> Hydrocodone is a Godsend, but it puts me clean out to sleep.
> >>
> >> Ymmv.
> >
> > Been there, done that. I finally figured out that in knocked me out to the
> > point that I got all scrunched up in my sleep and didn't care. So I would
> > wake up in the AM with everything already in an uproar.
>
> Wow, that's a reverse gear for sure.
> >
> > The muscle relaxant doesn't knock you out nearly as much. One thing that
> > really helps is to be able to just lay flat on my back with the moist heat
> > underneath, and maintain that posture in my sleep if possible. That position
> > is the most pain free anyway, especially with the arm on the bad side up
> > over my head. That's where there is the least pressure on the nerve root.
> > With the muscle relaxants and feweer pain meds, eventually none, there was
> > just enough of an edge left to the pain if I moved around that I seemed to
> > maintain that position all night.
> >
> > MartyB
>
> Can we get a factory recall on the back please ;-)

God needed a better engineering crew. <g>
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Om wrote:

> God needed a better engineering crew. <g>

How many people thought of the joke which ends with the words "recreation
area"?

Bob

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Om wrote:
>
> > God needed a better engineering crew. <g>
>
> How many people thought of the joke which ends with the words "recreation
> area"?
>
> Bob

<rofl> I actually have heard that one. ;-)

Go ahead and post it!
God was a civil engineer...
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In article >,
PeterL2 > wrote:

> >> >> I had no idea that I have so much company with back issues.
> >> >
> >> > Seems to be part of walking upright.
> >>
> >> At least the upright part can be easily remedied. It's hard to keep
> >> people from stepping on your fingers in a crowd though. However I
> >> found that the right dosage of alcohol will help keep that problem
> >> from becoming too bothersome. If fact, it seems to encourage the
> >> whole kneewalking thing.
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> MartyB
> >
> > <lol>
> >
> > I don't have a drinking problem!
> > I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, no problem! ;-)
>
>
>
>
> Your complimentary Aussie citizenship is in the mail ;-P
>
>
> Peter
> in Brisbane

<laughs> Thanks luv. :-D
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On 4/23/2010 7:32 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>>>> Hydrocodone is a Godsend, but it puts me clean out to sleep.
>>>>
>>>> Ymmv.
>>>
>>> Been there, done that. I finally figured out that in knocked me out to the
>>> point that I got all scrunched up in my sleep and didn't care. So I would
>>> wake up in the AM with everything already in an uproar.
>>
>> Wow, that's a reverse gear for sure.
>>>
>>> The muscle relaxant doesn't knock you out nearly as much. One thing that
>>> really helps is to be able to just lay flat on my back with the moist heat
>>> underneath, and maintain that posture in my sleep if possible. That position
>>> is the most pain free anyway, especially with the arm on the bad side up
>>> over my head. That's where there is the least pressure on the nerve root.
>>> With the muscle relaxants and feweer pain meds, eventually none, there was
>>> just enough of an edge left to the pain if I moved around that I seemed to
>>> maintain that position all night.
>>>
>>> MartyB
>>
>> Can we get a factory recall on the back please ;-)
>
> God needed a better engineering crew.<g>

Must have been the GM bunch...

On 4/23/2010 9:06 AM, Pete C. wrote:
>
> Cleatarrior wrote:
>>
>> On 4/22/2010 10:59 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 4/22/2010 8:33 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> news >>>>>> In >,
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll second that book recommendation. The exercises in it will help
>>>>>>>> take a
>>>>>>>> lot of stress off of nerve bundles that are getting irritated or
>>>>>>>> pinched.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've had a ruptured disk at c-5/c-6 which almost put me into surgery
>>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>>> different times, probably would have if I hadn't been so resistant to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> medieval concept of cutting up my backbone and shoving in pieces of
>>>>>>>> cadaver
>>>>>>>> bone. Being careful of posture, rearranging things I use frequently to
>>>>>>>> avoid
>>>>>>>> encouraging bad posture (computer monitor height, for example), and
>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>> the kinds of exercises found in that book are what kept me from being
>>>>>>>> cut. I
>>>>>>>> also found that a good muscle relaxant at night along with moist heat
>>>>>>>> goes a
>>>>>>>> lot further towards waking up without pain than any narcotic-type
>>>>>>>> painkillers. I'm now 20 years past the precipitating event which
>>>>>>>> caused
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> damage, and I can manage the situation and control it before it gets
>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>> hand, and I still haven't been cut.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MartyB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ditto the moist heat, and...Doanes Pills...Walgreens has a cheaper
>>>>>>> store
>>>>>>> brand. Dunno why they work, but they do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Traction (decompression) therapy is also a good thing. My Ortho' told me
>>>>>> that that and the McKenzie exercises were my best bet to avoid surgery.
>>>>>> The neck steroid injections were administered by a pain specialist. MD
>>>>>> surgeon/anesthesiologist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not as bad as they sound. He was generous with the Lidocaine, and they
>>>>>> do offer sedation if you want it. I didn't.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> I had traction but not the injections. I got onto the moist heat thing
>>>>> when
>>>>> I realized how much the hot pack treatments helped during PT. You can't
>>>>> beat
>>>>> those hot wet sandbags they use for deep heat therapy.
>>>>>
>>>>> The best muscle relaxant IMO, if your doc will fork it over, is valium,
>>>>> just
>>>>> for long enough to get things settled down, i.e., 3-6 weeks. Fortunately
>>>>> I
>>>>> haven't had a bout that severe in ten years. Now if it starts to flare, a
>>>>> couple days of cyclobenzaprine and some hot wet towels will do the trick.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was told by the first neuro I saw that the body will heal itself in
>>>>> many
>>>>> cases if you can tolerate and manage the pain while it happens, and that
>>>>> many of the surgeries are done to relieve pain more than to prevent
>>>>> serious
>>>>> damage. Quote "I'd like to stay out of your neck." It's hard to accept
>>>>> when
>>>>> you're dealing with raw nerve pain shooting through your shoulder and
>>>>> down
>>>>> through your arm and elbow, but in hindsight it was the wisest thing
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> told me in nearly 20 years of dealing with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't say it's completely healed but it's certainly not anywhere near
>>>>> the
>>>>> problem it used to be. It was so bad I couldn't even ride in a car
>>>>> without
>>>>> cringing in pain every time it hit a small bump.
>>>>>
>>>>> I figure it will probably go bad again sooner or later, but I'm betting
>>>>> on a
>>>>> less medieval surgical option being available by that time. They have a
>>>>> less
>>>>> invasive laproscopic procedure with much less chance of post surgical
>>>>> complications, but they wouldn't consider using it in the C vertebrae
>>>>> because of the close proximity to the spinal cord. Hopefully if I have to
>>>>> get cut someday, they will have refined this procedure. I know they
>>>>> already
>>>>> have an artificial material to replace the cadaver bone insertion but I
>>>>> don't know much more about it than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> MartyB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hydrocodone is a Godsend, but it puts me clean out to sleep.
>>>>
>>>> Ymmv.
>>>
>>> Been there, done that. I finally figured out that in knocked me out to the
>>> point that I got all scrunched up in my sleep and didn't care. So I would
>>> wake up in the AM with everything already in an uproar.
>>
>> Wow, that's a reverse gear for sure.
>>>
>>> The muscle relaxant doesn't knock you out nearly as much. One thing that
>>> really helps is to be able to just lay flat on my back with the moist heat
>>> underneath, and maintain that posture in my sleep if possible. That position
>>> is the most pain free anyway, especially with the arm on the bad side up
>>> over my head. That's where there is the least pressure on the nerve root.
>>> With the muscle relaxants and feweer pain meds, eventually none, there was
>>> just enough of an edge left to the pain if I moved around that I seemed to
>>> maintain that position all night.
>>>
>>> MartyB
>>
>> Can we get a factory recall on the back please ;-)
>
> You can blame it on evolution. If the back generally holds out for the
> duration of a person's reproductive years, back problems that generally
> develop after those reproductive years will never be evolved away.

This a potent argument for senior sex...%-)

"Omelet" > wrote

> Don't suffer needlessly out of sheer stubbornness.


I've done it for 43 years with no ill effects...

lol,
TFM®

"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
>> In article >,
>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:07:11 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> > The more fact the better.
>>>
>>> The more FAT the better.
>>>
>>> My typing has been horrendous lately due to numbness in my fingers
>>> and arms. I'll live, so don't start celebrating yet.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Steve babe, PLEASE take a look at the Mackenzie book "treat your own
>> neck" and follow the instructions.
>>
>> Please...
>>
>> <http://www.amazon.com/Treat-Your-Own...6/ref=sr_1_1?i
>> e=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271821767&sr=1-1>
>>
>> It works. You already know how I know.
>> --
>> Peace! Om
>>
>> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>> Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food
>> groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine
>
> I'll second that book recommendation. The exercises in it will help take a
> lot of stress off of nerve bundles that are getting irritated or pinched.
>
> I've had a ruptured disk at c-5/c-6 which almost put me into surgery three
> different times, probably would have if I hadn't been so resistant to the
> medieval concept of cutting up my backbone and shoving in pieces of
> cadaver bone. Being careful of posture, rearranging things I use
> frequently to avoid encouraging bad posture (computer monitor height, for
> example), and doing the kinds of exercises found in that book are what
> kept me from being cut. I also found that a good muscle relaxant at night
> along with moist heat goes a lot further towards waking up without pain
> than any narcotic-type painkillers. I'm now 20 years past the
> precipitating event which caused the damage, and I can manage the
> situation and control it before it gets out of hand, and I still haven't
> been cut.
>
> MartyB
>



Bravo, MartyB. I need to get that book

TFM®

In article >,
Cleatarrior > wrote:

> On 4/23/2010 7:32 PM, Omelet wrote:
> > In >,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>>> Hydrocodone is a Godsend, but it puts me clean out to sleep.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ymmv.
> >>>
> >>> Been there, done that. I finally figured out that in knocked me out to
> >>> the
> >>> point that I got all scrunched up in my sleep and didn't care. So I would
> >>> wake up in the AM with everything already in an uproar.
> >>
> >> Wow, that's a reverse gear for sure.
> >>>
> >>> The muscle relaxant doesn't knock you out nearly as much. One thing that
> >>> really helps is to be able to just lay flat on my back with the moist
> >>> heat
> >>> underneath, and maintain that posture in my sleep if possible. That
> >>> position
> >>> is the most pain free anyway, especially with the arm on the bad side up
> >>> over my head. That's where there is the least pressure on the nerve root.
> >>> With the muscle relaxants and feweer pain meds, eventually none, there
> >>> was
> >>> just enough of an edge left to the pain if I moved around that I seemed
> >>> to
> >>> maintain that position all night.
> >>>
> >>> MartyB
> >>
> >> Can we get a factory recall on the back please ;-)
> >
> > God needed a better engineering crew.<g>
>
> Must have been the GM bunch...

<laughs> No kidding!
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In article >,
Cleatarrior > wrote:

> >> Can we get a factory recall on the back please ;-)
> >
> > You can blame it on evolution. If the back generally holds out for the
> > duration of a person's reproductive years, back problems that generally
> > develop after those reproductive years will never be evolved away.
>
> This a potent argument for senior sex...%-)

Best pain killer there is... ;-)
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In article > ,
"Blackboard Support Specialist" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote
>
> > Don't suffer needlessly out of sheer stubbornness.
>
>
> I've done it for 43 years with no ill effects...
>
> lol,
> TFM®

But we know you are a stubborn thang. ;-)
The offer of a TENS unit is still open. They are only $30.00 and I will
buy it for you...
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In article > ,
"Blackboard Support Specialist" > wrote:

> "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Omelet" > wrote in message
> > news
> >> In article >,
> >> Sqwertz > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:07:11 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > The more fact the better.
> >>>
> >>> The more FAT the better.
> >>>
> >>> My typing has been horrendous lately due to numbness in my fingers
> >>> and arms. I'll live, so don't start celebrating yet.
> >>>
> >>> -sw
> >>
> >> Steve babe, PLEASE take a look at the Mackenzie book "treat your own
> >> neck" and follow the instructions.
> >>
> >> Please...
> >>
> >> <http://www.amazon.com/Treat-Your-Own...6/ref=sr_1_1?i
> >> e=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271821767&sr=1-1>
> >>
> >> It works. You already know how I know.
> >> --
> >> Peace! Om
> >>
> >> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
> >> Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food
> >> groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine
> >
> > I'll second that book recommendation. The exercises in it will help take a
> > lot of stress off of nerve bundles that are getting irritated or pinched.
> >
> > I've had a ruptured disk at c-5/c-6 which almost put me into surgery three
> > different times, probably would have if I hadn't been so resistant to the
> > medieval concept of cutting up my backbone and shoving in pieces of
> > cadaver bone. Being careful of posture, rearranging things I use
> > frequently to avoid encouraging bad posture (computer monitor height, for
> > example), and doing the kinds of exercises found in that book are what
> > kept me from being cut. I also found that a good muscle relaxant at night
> > along with moist heat goes a lot further towards waking up without pain
> > than any narcotic-type painkillers. I'm now 20 years past the
> > precipitating event which caused the damage, and I can manage the
> > situation and control it before it gets out of hand, and I still haven't
> > been cut.
> >
> > MartyB
> >
>
>
>
> Bravo, MartyB. I need to get that book
>
> TFM®

Mackenzie wrote one for both the neck and the back.
There are Mackenzie certification courses for physical therapists, and
the one I saw was certified. It was very, very helpful!
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Omelet > wrote:
> "Blackboard Support Specialist" > wrote:
> > "Omelet" > wrote
> >
> > > Don't suffer needlessly out of sheer stubbornness.

> > I've done it for 43 years with no ill effects...
> >
> > lol,

> But we know you are a stubborn thang. ;-)
> The offer of a TENS unit is still open. They are only $30.00 and I will
> buy it for you...

I, too, can vouch for the effectiveness of TENS treatment. We've had a unit
for over 10 years.

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In article >,
Nick Cramer > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
> > "Blackboard Support Specialist" > wrote:
> > > "Omelet" > wrote
> > >
> > > > Don't suffer needlessly out of sheer stubbornness.
>
> > > I've done it for 43 years with no ill effects...
> > >
> > > lol,
>
> > But we know you are a stubborn thang. ;-)
> > The offer of a TENS unit is still open. They are only $30.00 and I will
> > buy it for you...
>
> I, too, can vouch for the effectiveness of TENS treatment. We've had a unit
> for over 10 years.

TENS is awesome. I use an EMS unit for lower back pain tho'.
In fact, I think I'll drag that unit out and use it on the right SI
joint tonight. That thing helps me sleep better.
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:07:11 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Beef fat used for bio-fuel.
>
> Maybe this will encourage farmers to raise more cattle, and make it
> better than your average USDA Select grade beef. The more fact the
> better. Everybody wins (except the cows, PETA, and the militant
> vegetarians).
>
> http://www.startribune.com/business/...P:DiiUiacyKUUr

Talk about thread hijacking, whoa.

So how about that Cow Power!

More power to the cows! In my next incarnation (afetr all my limbs
fall off from numbness), I want to be a Wagyu cow raised in Kobe,
Japan.

-sw

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:07:11 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > Beef fat used for bio-fuel.
> >
> > Maybe this will encourage farmers to raise more cattle, and make it
> > better than your average USDA Select grade beef. The more fact the
> > better. Everybody wins (except the cows, PETA, and the militant
> > vegetarians).
> >
> > http://www.startribune.com/business/...iU1OiP:DiiUiac
> > yKUUr
>
> Talk about thread hijacking, whoa.
>
> So how about that Cow Power!
>
> More power to the cows! In my next incarnation (afetr all my limbs
> fall off from numbness), I want to be a Wagyu cow raised in Kobe,
> Japan.
>
> -sw

Steve, if you refuse to get help, all the whinging in the world about
your numb limbs is not going to help. You are not dying and help is
available!
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In article >,
"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:

>
> I'm guessing they will tell you that at minimum, shots or not, you have to
> rest for long enough for the inflammation in the nerve root to subside.
> Whatever activity is making it flare up will also keep it flared up.
>
> I hope one of these ideas helps you out!
>
> MartyB

I have to work and cannot take time off right now.
If I have to endure the pain, so be it... :-(
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On 4/30/2010 9:58 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> > wrote in message
> news
>>> Bob
>>
>> <rofl> I actually have heard that one. ;-)
>>
>> Go ahead and post it!
>> God was a civil engineer...
>> --
>
> Hold on, you gotta start it the right way. Three engineers were sitting
> around discussing the existence of God...
>
> MBKC
>
>
How many of them worked for GM?

On 4/24/2010 5:07 AM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>>>> Can we get a factory recall on the back please ;-)
>>>
>>> You can blame it on evolution. If the back generally holds out for the
>>> duration of a person's reproductive years, back problems that generally
>>> develop after those reproductive years will never be evolved away.
>>
>> This a potent argument for senior sex...%-)
>
> Best pain killer there is... ;-)

Woo Hoo!

In article >,
"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> >> Bob
> >
> > <rofl> I actually have heard that one. ;-)
> >
> > Go ahead and post it!
> > God was a civil engineer...
> > --
>
> Hold on, you gotta start it the right way. Three engineers were sitting
> around discussing the existence of God...
>
> MBKC

True... ;-)
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"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >> Bob
> >
> > <rofl> I actually have heard that one. ;-)
> >
> > Go ahead and post it!
> > God was a civil engineer...

> Hold on, you gotta start it the right way. Three engineers were sitting
> around discussing the existence of God...

A civil engineer, a mechanical engineer and an elecronical engineer?

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In article >,
Nick Cramer > wrote:

> "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> > "Omelet" > wrote in message
> > >> Bob
> > >
> > > <rofl> I actually have heard that one. ;-)
> > >
> > > Go ahead and post it!
> > > God was a civil engineer...
>
> > Hold on, you gotta start it the right way. Three engineers were sitting
> > around discussing the existence of God...
>
> A civil engineer, a mechanical engineer and an elecronical engineer?

Yes.

So someone post the joke already! I don't have it on file.
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On Mon, 3 May 2010 15:45:36 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
> wrote:

>
>"Omelet" > wrote in message
>news
>> In article >,
>> Nick Cramer > wrote:
>>
>>> "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
>>> > "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>> > >> Bob
>>> > >
>>> > > <rofl> I actually have heard that one. ;-)
>>> > >
>>> > > Go ahead and post it!
>>> > > God was a civil engineer...
>>>
>>> > Hold on, you gotta start it the right way. Three engineers were sitting
>>> > around discussing the existence of God...
>>>
>>> A civil engineer, a mechanical engineer and an elecronical engineer?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> So someone post the joke already! I don't have it on file.
>> --
>
>Do I have to do everything around here?
>
>;-)
>
>The mechanical engineer says God must also be a mechanical engineer. Look at
>the endlessly complex structure of the natural world, and the amazing
>efficiency of life. Surely he is a mechanical engineer...
>
>The electrical engineer says, not so fast, look at the brain, a fabulously
>powerful computer, and the wonders of the human nervous system. The ability
>to adapt and solve problems, even in lower animals, is all based on
>electricity. Surely God must be an electrical engineer.
>
>The civil engineer tells them no, they are both obviously wrong. God must be
>a civil engineer. After all, who but a civil engineer would run a waste
>disposal system through a major recreational area?
>
>MBKC
>
Please get it right:

God was obviously a Local Planning Officer. Who else would agree to
the placement of a recreational area between a sewage outfall and a
water works?

Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>
> The mechanical engineer says God must also be a mechanical engineer. Look at
> the endlessly complex structure of the natural world, and the amazing
> efficiency of life. Surely he is a mechanical engineer...
>
> The electrical engineer says, not so fast, look at the brain, a fabulously
> powerful computer, and the wonders of the human nervous system. The ability
> to adapt and solve problems, even in lower animals, is all based on
> electricity. Surely God must be an electrical engineer.
>
> The civil engineer tells them no, they are both obviously wrong. God must be
> a civil engineer. After all, who but a civil engineer would run a waste
> disposal system through a major recreational area?

The computer engineer said the others are missing something basic. In
the Beginning there was chaos and God said let there be light. How do
you think the chaos got there in the first place? Clearly God is a
computer engineer.

"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> > Nick Cramer > wrote:
> >> "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> >> > [ . . . ]
> >> > Three engineers were sitting around discussing the existence of
> >> > God...
> >>
> >> A civil engineer, a mechanical engineer and an elecronical engineer?

> The mechanical engineer says God must also be a mechanical engineer. Look
> at the endlessly complex structure of the natural world, and the amazing
> efficiency of life. Surely he is a mechanical engineer...
>
> The electrical engineer says, not so fast, look at the brain, a
> fabulously powerful computer, and the wonders of the human nervous
> system. The ability to adapt and solve problems, even in lower animals,
> is all based on electricity. Surely God must be an electrical engineer.
>
> The civil engineer tells them no, they are both obviously wrong. God must
> be a civil engineer. After all, who but a civil engineer would run a
> waste disposal system through a major recreational area?

Proving that he also had a good sense of humor!

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On 3-May-2010, "Nunya Bidnits" >
wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > Nick Cramer > wrote:
> >
> >> "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> >> > "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >> > >> Bob
> >> > >
> >> > > <rofl> I actually have heard that one. ;-)
> >> > >
> >> > > Go ahead and post it!
> >> > > God was a civil engineer...
> >>
> >> > Hold on, you gotta start it the right way. Three engineers were
> >> > sitting
> >> > around discussing the existence of God...
> >>
> >> A civil engineer, a mechanical engineer and an elecronical engineer?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > So someone post the joke already! I don't have it on file.
> > --
>
> Do I have to do everything around here?
>
> ;-)
>
> The mechanical engineer says God must also be a mechanical engineer. Look
> at
> the endlessly complex structure of the natural world, and the amazing
> efficiency of life. Surely he is a mechanical engineer...
>
> The electrical engineer says, not so fast, look at the brain, a fabulously
>
> powerful computer, and the wonders of the human nervous system. The
> ability
> to adapt and solve problems, even in lower animals, is all based on
> electricity. Surely God must be an electrical engineer.
>
> The civil engineer tells them no, they are both obviously wrong. God must
> be
> a civil engineer. After all, who but a civil engineer would run a waste
> disposal system through a major recreational area?
>
> MBKC

And he must have been a civil servant as well, which gives rise to the
question, "Just whose time was he wasting"?

Brick said that.

In article >,
"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:

> > So someone post the joke already! I don't have it on file.
> > --
>
> Do I have to do everything around here?
>
> ;-)

Yes.

>
> The mechanical engineer says God must also be a mechanical engineer. Look at
> the endlessly complex structure of the natural world, and the amazing
> efficiency of life. Surely he is a mechanical engineer...
>
> The electrical engineer says, not so fast, look at the brain, a fabulously
> powerful computer, and the wonders of the human nervous system. The ability
> to adapt and solve problems, even in lower animals, is all based on
> electricity. Surely God must be an electrical engineer.
>
> The civil engineer tells them no, they are both obviously wrong. God must be
> a civil engineer. After all, who but a civil engineer would run a waste
> disposal system through a major recreational area?
>
> MBKC

Thank you. ;-)

Punchline:

"Who else but a civil engineer would build a recreational area between
two sewage disposal systems?"
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On Mon, 3 May 2010 15:45:36 -0500, Nunya Bidnits wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
>> In article >,
>> Nick Cramer > wrote:
>>
>>> "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
>>> > "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>> > >> Bob
>>> > >
>>> > > <rofl> I actually have heard that one. ;-)
>>> > >
>>> > > Go ahead and post it!
>>> > > God was a civil engineer...
>>>
>>> > Hold on, you gotta start it the right way. Three engineers were sitting
>>> > around discussing the existence of God...
>>>
>>> A civil engineer, a mechanical engineer and an elecronical engineer?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> So someone post the joke already! I don't have it on file.
>> --
>
> Do I have to do everything around here?
>
> ;-)
>
> The mechanical engineer says God must also be a mechanical engineer. Look at
> the endlessly complex structure of the natural world, and the amazing
> efficiency of life. Surely he is a mechanical engineer...
>
> The electrical engineer says, not so fast, look at the brain, a fabulously
> powerful computer, and the wonders of the human nervous system. The ability
> to adapt and solve problems, even in lower animals, is all based on
> electricity. Surely God must be an electrical engineer.
>
> The civil engineer tells them no, they are both obviously wrong. God must be
> a civil engineer. After all, who but a civil engineer would run a waste
> disposal system through a major recreational area?
>
> MBKC

if he didn't, no one would ever leave.

your pal,
blake