"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Steve Pope wrote:
>>
>> Arri London > wrote:
>>
>> >>> On Apr 23, 5:27 pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
>>
>> >> >> I pan fried it with a buttermilk-lemon extract-flour batter,
>> >> >> using a mix of olive and canola oils. Yum!
>>
>> >Cannot imagine using
>> >lemon extract on such an expensive piece of fish.
>>
>> Have you tried it?
>
> No and never will. We don't use it in baking either. Don't like the
> taste compared to the real thing.
>
>
>>
>> > Fresh lemon is cheaper and tastier.

On the trout, I put lemon slices on the outsides, and a mix of lemon and
garlic on the inside, all cut finely with a pampered chef slap chopper.
There was a lot less lemon flavor than I had anticipated. As I am someone
who will pour straight lemon juice over fish, I apparently like a lot of
lemon. That was surprisingly weak, and I'd like to see what the lemon
extract will do.

I must have some!

Steve

"Steve Pope" > wrote

> Again not interchangeable. My feeling is Alaska halibut
> pan fries better than just about any fish.
> Steve

Halibut does well on the barbie, too, if you remember to spray non skid. It
is firm unless it is not fresh, and in that case can get a little crumbly
mooshy. In a wire rack, it does really well, and has been one of my
favorites. Trouble is, though, you don't know if you have a good piece of
fish until the first bite. Smell sometimes will tell you, but not always.

Steve

Steve B > wrote:

> Lemon extract in the batter. Sounds interesting, and tangy.
> I would have never thought of that in a million years. What,
> exactly is lemon extract? A powder? Liquid? Where do I
> get some? Sounds like it would be useful in a lot of things.

The stuff I used is made by Neilsen-Massey, and lists its
ingredients as alcohol, "natural oil of lemon", and water.
It is a liquid.

I suppose it might be artisinal lemon extract; perhaps different
from the mass-market brands, but I'm not sure of that. The label
says to use it in fish, pork and chicken dishes, beverages,
and baking. I do not bake much at all and I have only ever used it
for batter-frying seafood.

It smells very much like limoncello.

Steve

In article >,
"Steve B" > wrote:

> "Steve Pope" > wrote
>
> > Of course we served it with fresh lemon. However, it is
> > not the same as including lemon extract in the batter, which
> > so far has received high marks from everyone.
> >
> > Steve
>
> Hmmmmmm. Lemon extract in the batter. Sounds interesting, and tangy. I
> would have never thought of that in a million years. What, exactly is lemon
> extract? A powder? Liquid? Where do I get some? Sounds like it would be
> useful in a lot of things.

Here's a source and some info:

http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penze...onextract.html

I would guess that it would be in the grocery store, either with the
spices or the baking supplies.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> >> Tangentially, Maine lobster and king crab are both on the
> >> "try to avoid" list, while Alaska halibut is on the "good" list.
>
> >Why?
>
> I don't immediately know; I am just going by Seafood Watch's
> summary.
>
> Steve

I was more interested in your personal opinion...
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In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > > (Steve Pope) wrote:
> >
> > >> Tangentially, Maine lobster and king crab are both on the
> > >> "try to avoid" list, while Alaska halibut is on the "good" list.
> >
> > >Why?
> >
> > I don't immediately know; I am just going by Seafood Watch's
> > summary.
> >
> > Steve
>
> I was more interested in your personal opinion...

Why?

Much as we enjoy reading Steve's personal opinions, the fact that
eating, as an example, crab labeled as "Alaskan King Crab", which is
actually imported from Russia and was fished illegally, is bad for the
Planet Earth, is really not Steve's personal opinion, especially as he
just glommed it from another source. Here's a URL:

http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/seafoodwatch.aspx

Incidentally, the Monterey Bay Aquarium is a really neat place, and is
worth a day if you are in the area. If you eat at their restaurant, I
think they only serve what is recommended.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel wrote:
>
>Incidentally, the Monterey Bay Aquarium is a really neat place, and is
>worth a day if you are in the area.
>
>If you eat at their restaurant, I think they only serve what is recommended.

Huh?

Probably "Catch of the Day".

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> > > I don't immediately know; I am just going by Seafood Watch's
> > > summary.
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > I was more interested in your personal opinion...
>
> Why?
>
> Much as we enjoy reading Steve's personal opinions, the fact that
> eating, as an example, crab labeled as "Alaskan King Crab", which is
> actually imported from Russia and was fished illegally, is bad for the
> Planet Earth, is really not Steve's personal opinion, especially as he
> just glommed it from another source. Here's a URL:
>
> http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/seafoodwatch.aspx
>
> Incidentally, the Monterey Bay Aquarium is a really neat place, and is
> worth a day if you are in the area. If you eat at their restaurant, I
> think they only serve what is recommended.
>
> --
> Dan Abel

Ok.

If I ever get up to Monterey bay, I'll give it a looksea.

I seldom eat King Crab because it's too damned expensive.
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Omelet > wrote:

> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> Omelet > wrote:

>> > (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> >> Tangentially, Maine lobster and king crab are both on the
>> >> "try to avoid" list, while Alaska halibut is on the "good" list.

>> >Why?

>> I don't immediately know; I am just going by Seafood Watch's
>> summary.

>I was more interested in your personal opinion...

My personal opinion is that Seafood Watch does a good job
of researching these things.

From their site:

(Alaska Halibut)

Most Pacific halibut is caught either in Alaska or off the
west coast of Canada. In Alaska, fishing for Pacific halibut is
strictly limited to the bottom longlining method, which causes
little habitat damage or bycatch and makes it a "Best Choice."

American/Maine Lobster

Although there's abundant American lobster in the Gulf of Maine,
there.s scientific uncertainty about whether this lobster is
being overfished.

Summary

The large-clawed American lobster, caught off New England, is
found in restaurants and food markets coast to coast. Several
new methods to estimate the population size of American lobster
are being examined, but for now the current population status
is considered weak or unknown.

This, combined with the infrequent accidental entanglement of
endangered North Atlantic right whales in lobster fishing gear,
or pots, is a cause for environmental concern.

King Crab

U.S. king crab is currently well-managed; however some
populations are recovering from previous overfishing making
this a "Good Alternative." King crab imported from Russia is
ranked as "Avoid."

Consumer Note

Buyer beware! Russian king crab is sometimes sold in the
U.S. market as "Alaska king crab." King crab is known as kani
when prepared as sushi.

Summary

King crab is found in cold oceans worldwide. Crab populations
can vary widely from year to year, depending on ocean and
weather conditions.

All three species of king crab are fished in the U.S.; the
two primary king crab populations in Alaska are healthy and
abundant due to responsible fisheries management. However,
several others fisheries are closed; this will allow the crab
populations time to recover from previous overfishing.

Approximately half of all king crab sold in the U.S. market is
imported from Russia, where it is fished in the Russian Far
East and the Barents Sea. Far East king crab populations are
at critically low abundance, a situation made worse by regular
overfishing and illegal fishing. In the Barents Sea, king crab
was introduced in the 1960s. The crab has spread quickly and
has become an invasive species that is seriously impacting the
ecosystem. We recommend consumers "Avoid" imported king crab
and choose king crab from the U.S.


Steve

Steve wrote on Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:26:02 +0000 (UTC):

>> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>>> Omelet > wrote:

>> >> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> >>> Tangentially, Maine lobster and king crab are both on the
>> >>> "try to avoid" list, while Alaska halibut is on the
>> >>> "good" list.

>> >> Why?

>>> I don't immediately know; I am just going by Seafood Watch's
>>> summary.

>> I was more interested in your personal opinion...

> My personal opinion is that Seafood Watch does a good job
> of researching these things.

You can download wallet sized cards and there are six different cards
for different regions of the US
http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/

Incidentally, Atlantic halibut is a no, unlike Pacific.


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> In the Barents Sea, king crab
> was introduced in the 1960s. The crab has spread quickly and
> has become an invasive species that is seriously impacting the
> ecosystem. We recommend consumers "Avoid" imported king crab
> and choose king crab from the U.S.

This statement, to me, is a good reason to eat it. I ran across an
article on this once where there were getting to be too many King Crab
in some areas.

Fish them and send them here and lower the damned price please!
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Omelet > wrote:

> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> In the Barents Sea, king crab
>> was introduced in the 1960s. The crab has spread quickly and
>> has become an invasive species that is seriously impacting the
>> ecosystem. We recommend consumers "Avoid" imported king crab
>> and choose king crab from the U.S.

>This statement, to me, is a good reason to eat it. I ran across an
>article on this once where there were getting to be too many King Crab
>in some areas.

I would think the logic is that buy buying introduced/invasive seafood,
you are enabling the practice of introducing invasive species.

There may be some short-term benefit in fishing out invasive species
(if that is even possible), but not if in so doing you are
rewarding bad behavior by commercial fisherman.

Steve

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> >> In the Barents Sea, king crab
> >> was introduced in the 1960s. The crab has spread quickly and
> >> has become an invasive species that is seriously impacting the
> >> ecosystem. We recommend consumers "Avoid" imported king crab
> >> and choose king crab from the U.S.
>
> >This statement, to me, is a good reason to eat it. I ran across an
> >article on this once where there were getting to be too many King Crab
> >in some areas.
>
> I would think the logic is that buy buying introduced/invasive seafood,
> you are enabling the practice of introducing invasive species.

I view it as correcting an accident.
If they are fished down to reasonable numbers, then they won't hurt the
native species. Leave them alone and the damage will get WORSE. Once
the error has been made, there is only one way to fix it.

Fish them to a sustainable population level.

>
> There may be some short-term benefit in fishing out invasive species
> (if that is even possible), but not if in so doing you are
> rewarding bad behavior by commercial fisherman.
>
> Steve

What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
do that.
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Omelet > wrote:

> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> Omelet > wrote:

>> > (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> >> In the Barents Sea, king crab
>> >> was introduced in the 1960s. The crab has spread quickly and
>> >> has become an invasive species that is seriously impacting the
>> >> ecosystem. We recommend consumers "Avoid" imported king crab
>> >> and choose king crab from the U.S.

>> >This statement, to me, is a good reason to eat it. I ran across an
>> >article on this once where there were getting to be too many King Crab
>> >in some areas.

>> I would think the logic is that buy buying introduced/invasive seafood,
>> you are enabling the practice of introducing invasive species.

>I view it as correcting an accident.
>If they are fished down to reasonable numbers, then they won't hurt the
>native species. Leave them alone and the damage will get WORSE. Once
>the error has been made, there is only one way to fix it.

>Fish them to a sustainable population level.

>> There may be some short-term benefit in fishing out invasive species
>> (if that is even possible), but not if in so doing you are
>> rewarding bad behavior by commercial fisherman.

>What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
>do that.

Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.

Steve

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> >What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
> >do that.
>
> Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
> them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.
>
> Steve

Wasting good food like that is an even worse sin!
And having them where they are is supposed to be less harmful than
"commercial aquafarming".
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Omelet > wrote:

> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>>>What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
>>>do that.

>> Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
>> them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.

>Wasting good food like that is an even worse sin!

I agree this is problematical. But it's also problematical to
let fishers introduce and profit from invasive species.

Steve

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> >>>What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
> >>>do that.
>
> >> Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
> >> them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.
>
> >Wasting good food like that is an even worse sin!
>
> I agree this is problematical. But it's also problematical to
> let fishers introduce and profit from invasive species.
>
> Steve

I was just a child in the 60's when they did it.
Why punish later generations for the sins of our ancestors?
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Steve Pope wrote:
>
> Arri London > wrote:
>
> >Steve Pope wrote:
>
> >> Arri London > wrote:
>
> >> >>> On Apr 23, 5:27 pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> >> >> >> I pan fried it with a buttermilk-lemon extract-flour batter,
> >> >> >> using a mix of olive and canola oils. Yum!
>
> >> >Cannot imagine using
> >> >lemon extract on such an expensive piece of fish.
>
> >> Have you tried it?
>
> >No and never will. We don't use it in baking either. Don't like the
> >taste compared to the real thing.
>
> Lemon extract contains real lemon.

That's as may be, but it doesn't taste much like lemon to me. Which is
why we don't use it. Lemon rind plus juice works fine for us.

>
> (Perhaps there is such a thing as imitation lemon extract;
> not sure. I have not seen it or used it.)


There probably is but it's not in our house either

Steve B wrote:
>
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > Steve Pope wrote:
> >>
> >> Arri London > wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> On Apr 23, 5:27 pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >> I pan fried it with a buttermilk-lemon extract-flour batter,
> >> >> >> using a mix of olive and canola oils. Yum!
> >>
> >> >Cannot imagine using
> >> >lemon extract on such an expensive piece of fish.
> >>
> >> Have you tried it?
> >
> > No and never will. We don't use it in baking either. Don't like the
> > taste compared to the real thing.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > Fresh lemon is cheaper and tastier.
>
> On the trout, I put lemon slices on the outsides, and a mix of lemon and
> garlic on the inside, all cut finely with a pampered chef slap chopper.
> There was a lot less lemon flavor than I had anticipated. As I am someone
> who will pour straight lemon juice over fish, I apparently like a lot of
> lemon. That was surprisingly weak, and I'd like to see what the lemon
> extract will do.
>
> I must have some!
>
> Steve

Add grated lemon rind to boost the flavour. Plus not every lemon is very
'lemony' these days. Have had some relatively sweet lemons that were
supposed to be 'ordinary' sour lemons. Luck of the draw.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> Perhaps... but one might be preferable to the other. I happen to agree
> with him, but I'd substitute King Crab at $12.00 to $15.00 per lb.
>
As much as I love crab legs, I prefer only snow crab legs. I don't like
king or dungeness. I just think the snow are sweeter.

> Or live Lobster or crab at an average of $7.00 per lb.

Not a lobster fan either. Funny how people's tastes are so different even
when they like similar foods. And being a Marylander, I'm an oddball for not
liking blue crab. I like the claws, but the picking of the bodies puts me
off of them. I'll sit and pick at a crab feast, but I don't eat the meat.

In article >,
"Cheryl" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news >
> > Perhaps... but one might be preferable to the other. I happen to agree
> > with him, but I'd substitute King Crab at $12.00 to $15.00 per lb.
> >
> As much as I love crab legs, I prefer only snow crab legs. I don't like
> king or dungeness. I just think the snow are sweeter.
>
> > Or live Lobster or crab at an average of $7.00 per lb.
>
> Not a lobster fan either. Funny how people's tastes are so different even
> when they like similar foods. And being a Marylander, I'm an oddball for not
> liking blue crab. I like the claws, but the picking of the bodies puts me
> off of them. I'll sit and pick at a crab feast, but I don't eat the meat.

Blue crabs are tasty, but I find them to be a pain in the ass to pick.
Too little meat for too much work.

I noticed bags of blue crab claws for sale tho' at Fiesta the other day.
Can't recall the exact price but they were not bad.

What I was delighted to find were frozen bags of "Catfish strips" for
$1.99 per lb. They looked like whole fillets to me! I bought a bag but
have not cooked any yet. They also had frozen Tilapia fillets for $2.99
but I did not buy any.

Dad's been on this damed rotisserie chicken kick lately, so I've not had
to do any meat cooking. I'll be glad when it stops! That stuff is a
bit salty for me but the breast meat does make good spring rolls.

I'd rather he let me make roasted chickens. <sigh>

Snow crab is not bad, but I do like King better. :-) As you say,
differing tastes... and snow crab clusters have been cheap for awhile
now.
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"Omelet" > wrote

>
> Blue crabs are tasty, but I find them to be a pain in the ass to pick.
> Too little meat for too much work.
>
> I noticed bags of blue crab claws for sale tho' at Fiesta the other day.
> Can't recall the exact price but they were not bad.
>
> What I was delighted to find were frozen bags of "Catfish strips" for
> $1.99 per lb. They looked like whole fillets to me! I bought a bag but
> have not cooked any yet. They also had frozen Tilapia fillets for $2.99
> but I did not buy any.
>
> Dad's been on this damed rotisserie chicken kick lately, so I've not had
> to do any meat cooking. I'll be glad when it stops! That stuff is a
> bit salty for me but the breast meat does make good spring rolls.
>
> I'd rather he let me make roasted chickens. <sigh>
>
> Snow crab is not bad, but I do like King better. :-) As you say,
> differing tastes... and snow crab clusters have been cheap for awhile
> now.
> --
> Peace! Om

I prefer to clean blue crabs before boiling. It makes picking easier,
although I still end up getting stuck and bleeding. (I'm on coumadin) The
larger north Pacific crabs are a little better, having bigger meat
compartments.

In article >,
"Steve B" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote
>
> >
> > Blue crabs are tasty, but I find them to be a pain in the ass to pick.
> > Too little meat for too much work.
> >
> > I noticed bags of blue crab claws for sale tho' at Fiesta the other day.
> > Can't recall the exact price but they were not bad.
> >
> > What I was delighted to find were frozen bags of "Catfish strips" for
> > $1.99 per lb. They looked like whole fillets to me! I bought a bag but
> > have not cooked any yet. They also had frozen Tilapia fillets for $2.99
> > but I did not buy any.
> >
> > Dad's been on this damed rotisserie chicken kick lately, so I've not had
> > to do any meat cooking. I'll be glad when it stops! That stuff is a
> > bit salty for me but the breast meat does make good spring rolls.
> >
> > I'd rather he let me make roasted chickens. <sigh>
> >
> > Snow crab is not bad, but I do like King better. :-) As you say,
> > differing tastes... and snow crab clusters have been cheap for awhile
> > now.
> > --
> > Peace! Om
>
> I prefer to clean blue crabs before boiling. It makes picking easier,
> although I still end up getting stuck and bleeding. (I'm on coumadin) The
> larger north Pacific crabs are a little better, having bigger meat
> compartments.

While I may not be on Coumadin, I understand the concept.
Those shell cuts can hurt for a couple of days...
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On Apr 24, 7:16*pm, Arri London > wrote:
> Steve Pope wrote:
>
> > Arri London > wrote:
>
> > >>> On Apr 23, 5:27 pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> > >> >> I pan fried it with a buttermilk-lemon extract-flour batter,
> > >> >> using a mix of olive and canola oils. *Yum!
>
> > >Cannot imagine using
> > >lemon extract on such an expensive piece of fish.
>
> > Have you tried it?
>
> No and never will. We don't use it in baking either. Don't like the
> taste compared to the real thing.
>
>
>
> > > Fresh lemon is cheaper and tastier.
>
> > Of course we served it with fresh lemon. *However, it is
> > not the same as including lemon extract in the batter, which
> > so far has received high marks from everyone.
>
> > Steve
>
> I'm not 'everyone'

I'm not either. The lemon juice gets squeezed on at the end,
liberally. S&P, cornmeal, then fry in peanut oil and apply lemon.

--Bryan

On 4/25/2010 5:26 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
> > wrote:
>
>> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>> In the Barents Sea, king crab
>>> was introduced in the 1960s. The crab has spread quickly and
>>> has become an invasive species that is seriously impacting the
>>> ecosystem. We recommend consumers "Avoid" imported king crab
>>> and choose king crab from the U.S.
>
>> This statement, to me, is a good reason to eat it. I ran across an
>> article on this once where there were getting to be too many King Crab
>> in some areas.
>
> I would think the logic is that buy buying introduced/invasive seafood,
> you are enabling the practice of introducing invasive species.
>
> There may be some short-term benefit in fishing out invasive species
> (if that is even possible), but not if in so doing you are
> rewarding bad behavior by commercial fisherman.

So how does not fishing for it make a difference?

On 4/25/2010 5:53 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
> > wrote:
>
>> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>> > wrote:
>
>>>> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>>>> In the Barents Sea, king crab
>>>>> was introduced in the 1960s. The crab has spread quickly and
>>>>> has become an invasive species that is seriously impacting the
>>>>> ecosystem. We recommend consumers "Avoid" imported king crab
>>>>> and choose king crab from the U.S.
>
>>>> This statement, to me, is a good reason to eat it. I ran across an
>>>> article on this once where there were getting to be too many King Crab
>>>> in some areas.
>
>>> I would think the logic is that buy buying introduced/invasive seafood,
>>> you are enabling the practice of introducing invasive species.
>
>> I view it as correcting an accident.
>> If they are fished down to reasonable numbers, then they won't hurt the
>> native species. Leave them alone and the damage will get WORSE. Once
>> the error has been made, there is only one way to fix it.
>
>> Fish them to a sustainable population level.
>
>>> There may be some short-term benefit in fishing out invasive species
>>> (if that is even possible), but not if in so doing you are
>>> rewarding bad behavior by commercial fisherman.
>
>> What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
>> do that.
>
> Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
> them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.

So how are "fishery managers" going to "remove the invasive crabs"?
You've never seen the ocean, have you?

On 4/25/2010 6:39 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
> > wrote:
>
>> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>>> What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
>>>> do that.
>
>>> Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
>>> them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.
>
>> Wasting good food like that is an even worse sin!
>
> I agree this is problematical. But it's also problematical to
> let fishers introduce and profit from invasive species.

What makes you think that "fishers" "introduced" the "invasive species"?
All the oceans are interconnected and these critters can swim you know.

"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/25/2010 5:53 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>>
>>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>>
>>>>>> In the Barents Sea, king crab
>>>>>> was introduced in the 1960s. The crab has spread quickly and
>>>>>> has become an invasive species that is seriously impacting the
>>>>>> ecosystem. We recommend consumers "Avoid" imported king crab
>>>>>> and choose king crab from the U.S.
>>
>>>>> This statement, to me, is a good reason to eat it. I ran across an
>>>>> article on this once where there were getting to be too many King Crab
>>>>> in some areas.
>>
>>>> I would think the logic is that buy buying introduced/invasive seafood,
>>>> you are enabling the practice of introducing invasive species.
>>
>>> I view it as correcting an accident.
>>> If they are fished down to reasonable numbers, then they won't hurt the
>>> native species. Leave them alone and the damage will get WORSE. Once
>>> the error has been made, there is only one way to fix it.
>>
>>> Fish them to a sustainable population level.
>>
>>>> There may be some short-term benefit in fishing out invasive species
>>>> (if that is even possible), but not if in so doing you are
>>>> rewarding bad behavior by commercial fisherman.
>>
>>> What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
>>> do that.
>>
>> Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
>> them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.
>
> So how are "fishery managers" going to "remove the invasive crabs"?

You know, it's odd you should ask. Seeing some of the programs that have
been funded by the Obama administration, I was JUST THIS MORNING thinking of
applying for a grant for $865,000,000 to study this important issue which
should just about cover a small boat, a GPS, a couple of fishing poles, a
cheap set of walkie talkies, some seasickness pills and my salary. I shall
keep you advised.

Oh, and a cheap rainsuit and hat.

Steve

visit my site http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book

A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.


Steve

In article >,
"J. Clarke" > wrote:

> >> What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
> >> do that.
> >
> > Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
> > them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.
>
> So how are "fishery managers" going to "remove the invasive crabs"?
> You've never seen the ocean, have you?

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In article >,
"Steve B" > wrote:

> >>> What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
> >>> do that.
> >>
> >> Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
> >> them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.
> >
> > So how are "fishery managers" going to "remove the invasive crabs"?
>
> You know, it's odd you should ask. Seeing some of the programs that have
> been funded by the Obama administration, I was JUST THIS MORNING thinking of
> applying for a grant for $865,000,000 to study this important issue which
> should just about cover a small boat, a GPS, a couple of fishing poles, a
> cheap set of walkie talkies, some seasickness pills and my salary. I shall
> keep you advised.
>
> Oh, and a cheap rainsuit and hat.
>
> Steve
>
> visit my site http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book

Hey, if that plan works out, I'm sure you can use an employee. :-)
Please keep me in mind?
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Steve B" > wrote:
>
>> >>> What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it
>> >>> won't
>> >>> do that.
>> >>
>> >> Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
>> >> them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.
>> >
>> > So how are "fishery managers" going to "remove the invasive crabs"?
>>
>> You know, it's odd you should ask. Seeing some of the programs that have
>> been funded by the Obama administration, I was JUST THIS MORNING thinking
>> of
>> applying for a grant for $865,000,000 to study this important issue which
>> should just about cover a small boat, a GPS, a couple of fishing poles, a
>> cheap set of walkie talkies, some seasickness pills and my salary. I
>> shall
>> keep you advised.
>>
>> Oh, and a cheap rainsuit and hat.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> visit my site http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book
>
> Hey, if that plan works out, I'm sure you can use an employee. :-)
> Please keep me in mind?
> --
> Peace! Om

A boat always needs a good cook. However, at that salary, we could afford
to eat out a lot. Don't forget, we need the deductions so we can reduce the
amount of taxes we pay. Do they make designer work boots?

Steve

visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book

A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.

Omelet > wrote:

> "J. Clarke" > wrote:

>> >> What is done is done. The problem needs fixing, and ignoring it won't
>> >> do that.

>> > Then fishery managers can remove the invasive crabs, and destroy
>> > them, rather than letting errant fishermen profit from it.

>> So how are "fishery managers" going to "remove the invasive crabs"?
>> You've never seen the ocean, have you?
>
><lol>!

Smirk.

Professionals, such as the Nature Conservancy, have all sorts
of methods for removing invasive species. Of course it's not
simple. But it's not impossible.

Steve

In article >,
"Steve B" > wrote:

> >> > So how are "fishery managers" going to "remove the invasive crabs"?
> >>
> >> You know, it's odd you should ask. Seeing some of the programs that have
> >> been funded by the Obama administration, I was JUST THIS MORNING thinking
> >> of
> >> applying for a grant for $865,000,000 to study this important issue which
> >> should just about cover a small boat, a GPS, a couple of fishing poles, a
> >> cheap set of walkie talkies, some seasickness pills and my salary. I
> >> shall
> >> keep you advised.
> >>
> >> Oh, and a cheap rainsuit and hat.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> visit my site http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book
> >
> > Hey, if that plan works out, I'm sure you can use an employee. :-)
> > Please keep me in mind?
>
> A boat always needs a good cook. However, at that salary, we could afford
> to eat out a lot. Don't forget, we need the deductions so we can reduce the
> amount of taxes we pay. Do they make designer work boots?
>
> Steve

I'll cook for you any time!

And yes, they do:

http://workingperson.com/
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