On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:50:03 -0400, "Nancy Young"
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> I agree with you 100%. I've got 1,2 and 4 cup pyrex cups and I've
>> never seen anything better.
>
>I just bought myself a new set of those last year. This is the
>first time I've had a 2-cup pyrex and I didn't know how much
>I'd use it. The 4-cup works as a little mixing bowl, too.
>
My goodness! You guys act like these things are novelties. I've had
mine so long I've had to redo the lines in indelible marker... and I
don't consider them pricey.

>I need new dry measuring cups.
>
Go for the metal ones! You'll never look back. I think if I'd bought
mine when the oval shaped ones were available, I'd buy a set of those.
As it is, mine are round and will probably outlast me.

>I have plastic ones that are
>flat and fit in the drawer. It's okay for the smaller measures
>but I make a mess with the 1-cup.

Are you saying yours collapse? Mine stack inside each other and are
very compact, so they only take up the space of the "one" cup measure.



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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:08:42 -0600, "graham" > wrote:

>But with scales, one never has these problems.

We're not scientists and we don't need scales.

>As for Pyrex measuring jugs, they must be the poorest pourers in the
>business and after a few years will frost over if they are put in the
>dishwasher.

Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in. As
far as "frosting" - you're completely wrong. Blame your hard water or
maybe your dishwasher detergent, but don't blame Pyrex. Mine are at
least 30 years old and the only "frosting" I have was made by me using
an electric hand mixer in my one quart over a period of many years.


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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:14:28 -0700 (PDT), sueb >
wrote:

>I don't see the point of a 1 cup measure.

Some things you just "have". I know my one cup measure was the first
one I bought. I was probably in college and not cooking for a family.
If I needed to measure two cups, I poured twice. It wasn't hard.

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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:22:59 -0700, "Steve B"
> wrote:

>Besides, it's impossible to have too many widgets in the kitchen.

Bite your tongue! They are kitchen tools, not widgets. Certain
things are absolutely necessary and that's one of them.

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On Apr 30, 8:31*am, sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:14:28 -0700 (PDT), sueb >
> wrote:
>
> >I don't see the point of a 1 cup measure.
>
> Some things you just "have". *I know my one cup measure was the first
> one I bought. *I was probably in college and not cooking for a family.
> If I needed to measure two cups, I poured twice. *It wasn't hard.
>
> --
> I love cooking with wine.
> Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Apparently I touched a nerve with my 1cup measure hating! ;-) For the
record, I don't eat grits or measure drinks so maybe I can live
without one.

For the record, I don't know where my 2cup measures came from, in
spite of the fact that I've probably been using them for 30 years. I
don't remember buying them, they must have been in some house we lived
in. If only there had been a 1cup measure, I'd probably be a whole
different person.

Susan B.

sf > wrote:
>"graham" > wrote:
>
>>But with scales, one never has these problems.
>
>We're not scientists and we don't need scales.

Speak for yourself, shit for brains. You must have an aversion to
scales because everytime you step on a scale it blares out: DEPOSIT
ANOTHER 1¢ FOR THE NEXT 300 POUNDS, OF SHIT!

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:16:57 -0500, Chemiker
> wrote:

>You can get sets that include 1/4, 1/3, 1/2 and 1 cup dry
>measures. S/S and not too expensive. Also: OXO makes a 2 oz S/S
>handleless measuring cup with the slanted read-from-above scale,
>marked in 0.5 oz and 1 Tbs. increments. I imagine that might be handy
>to bakers or cake decorators or some such..... I use mine rarely.

I have what amounts to a 2 tablespoon dry measure that I've put in
another place to use as a coffee measure. It works for me. YMMV

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

>>I don't see the point of a 1 cup measure.

Isn't it for measuring out one cup of something?

Just a guess.

Steve

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:22:59 -0700, "Steve B"
> > wrote:
>
>>Besides, it's impossible to have too many widgets in the kitchen.
>
> Bite your tongue! They are kitchen tools, not widgets. Certain
> things are absolutely necessary and that's one of them.

Kitchens are black holes. "Stuff" goes in, but nothing escapes.

Steve

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A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.

"J. Clarke" wrote:
>
> On 4/29/2010 6:53 PM, Arri London wrote:
> >
> >
> > "J. Clarke" wrote:
> >>
> >> Just broke my 1 cup Fire-King measuring cup that I've have for so long I
> >> don't remember when I got it. Was about to go out and get another one
> >> when it occurred to me that I'm seeing all kinds of fancy measuring cups
> >> in the stores--are any of them worthwhile improvements over the ordinary
> >> Pyrex/Fire King/whatever glass ones?
> >
> > If you want real accuracy, get labware However the Pyrex ones are
> > good.
>
> Do you have a source for labware that's marked in ounces for a
> reasonable price?


I don't know any labware that is marked in ounces. It's all metric
AFAIK.

Most cities have someone who sells surplus lab glassware.

On Apr 29, 6:14*pm, sueb > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 2:36*pm, Chemiker > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:46:11 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>
> > > wrote:
> > >Just broke my 1 cup Fire-King measuring cup that I've have for so long I
> > >don't remember when I got it. *Was about to go out and get another one
> > >when it occurred to me that I'm seeing all kinds of fancy measuring cups
> > >in the stores--are any of them worthwhile improvements over the ordinary
> > >Pyrex/Fire King/whatever glass ones?
>
> > Some great advice here. Here's my 2c.
>
> > I love the pyrex cups, but they don't pour well in some cases.
>
> > OTOH: Oxo makes a series of plastic cups with soft handles that have
> > angled measuring scales so you can see how much is in the cup from the
> > top.
>
> > Metal (S/S) cups are great, but they are Hell in the microwave.
>
> > So: I use all three. The ones I use least are the Pyrex types. If I
> > can't pour cleanly, I don't need it.
>
> > The OXO's *are microwave safe, dishwasher safe and easy to read from
> > above. In my area, not cost prohibitive.
>
> > If I had to give up all except one line, I would opt for the OXO
> > product.
>
> > Just my 2Cents.
>
> > Alex
>
> I have two 2 cup measuring cups, one pyrex, one plastic. *I also have
> an 8 cup pyrex one that's great for batters or marinating.
>
> I don't see the point of a 1 cup measure.


I fall back on mine when the two cupper is dirty and I'm too lazy to
wash it.
When my kitchen was the size of a dressing room, I didn't dare buy a
lot of gear. It's a leftover from that down-at-the-heels era.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:47:07 -0600, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>"J. Clarke" wrote:
>>
>> On 4/29/2010 6:53 PM, Arri London wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > "J. Clarke" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just broke my 1 cup Fire-King measuring cup that I've have for so long I
>> >> don't remember when I got it. Was about to go out and get another one
>> >> when it occurred to me that I'm seeing all kinds of fancy measuring cups
>> >> in the stores--are any of them worthwhile improvements over the ordinary
>> >> Pyrex/Fire King/whatever glass ones?
>> >
>> > If you want real accuracy, get labware However the Pyrex ones are
>> > good.
>>
>> Do you have a source for labware that's marked in ounces for a
>> reasonable price?
>
>
>I don't know any labware that is marked in ounces. It's all metric
>AFAIK.
>
>Most cities have someone who sells surplus lab glassware.

No one who knows how to cook cares about Rx accuracy.

I doubt I actually measure anything more than ten times a year; I
measure rice/oatmeal and liquid, I weigh flour. Lately I buy pasta
in 6 lb bags so I weigh out a pound or there abouts. I weigh meat for
my burgers; 14 ounces. Most everything I go by eyeball/feel. I've
never measured an onion in my life.. there is no such thing as cup of
diced onion, a cup of diced onion does NOT exist. When I use onion I
choose on of a size most suitable for the dish, and then I use it
all... in over fifty years I've never saved a partially cut onion, if
I cut into it I use it all. The last time I used a measuring spoon
has to be like ten years ago, I measured a tbls of Metamusil... if you
wanna call heaping as much as possible measuring... more a scoop than
a measure.

In article >,
"J. Clarke" > wrote:

> >> On 4/29/2010 4:08 PM, graham wrote:

> >>> But with scales, one never has these problems.

> While scales are useful, you seldom find recipes with quantities given
> by weight.

In the US? We have a cookbook, presumably for the US, with weights for
the recipes. It was the darndest thing. For a stew, it was like 1
pound, 2 ounces of potatoes, 9 ounces of carrots, etc. For a stew?
What weird measures. After a little thought, I realized that somebody
must have just converted metric recipes straight across, as that's 500g
and 250g.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:27:36 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>
>> I like the sets of nesting stainless measuring cups. They makes it so
>> much easier to measure quarters, thirds, half cups etc. I also like to
>> use my 2 cup Pryrex for larger amounts, especially liquids because there
>> is room to add other things, like wet ingredients where an egg and/or
>> oil is required.
>>
> Years ago, before I learned to tell the difference between a
> neighborhood social engagement and an invitation to a neighborhood
> sales party, I bought a set of nesting Tupperware measuring cups, 1 C
> - 1/3 C. It was the cheapest thing I could find to buy my way out the
> door. Still have the damned things. It's very difficult to read the
> measurement on the bottom of the cup and almost impossible to read the
> measurement on the handle. I really need to cowboy up and throw the
> things out, replace them with stainless. Tomorrow. Honest.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
>
Golly. Thanks for that!?

Dan Abel wrote:

> In the US? We have a cookbook, presumably for the US, with weights for
> the recipes. It was the darndest thing. For a stew, it was like 1
> pound, 2 ounces of potatoes, 9 ounces of carrots, etc. For a stew?
> What weird measures. After a little thought, I realized that somebody
> must have just converted metric recipes straight across, as that's 500g
> and 250g.

I have more than 20 cookbooks. Only one of them indicates weights.

>

On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:08:42 -0600, > wrote:
>
>> But with scales, one never has these problems.
>
> We're not scientists and we don't need scales.
>
>> As for Pyrex measuring jugs, they must be the poorest pourers in the
>> business and after a few years will frost over if they are put in the
>> dishwasher.
>
> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.

If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.

> As
> far as "frosting" - you're completely wrong. Blame your hard water or
> maybe your dishwasher detergent, but don't blame Pyrex. Mine are at
> least 30 years old and the only "frosting" I have was made by me using
> an electric hand mixer in my one quart over a period of many years.
>
>

On Apr 29, 8:46*am, "J. Clarke" > wrote:
> Just broke my 1 cup Fire-King measuring cup that I've have for so long I
> don't remember when I got it. *Was about to go out and get another one
> when it occurred to me that I'm seeing all kinds of fancy measuring cups
> in the stores--are any of them worthwhile improvements over the ordinary
> Pyrex/Fire King/whatever glass ones?

I find the Fire King easiest to use -- the Pyrex ones are too wide.

On Apr 29, 9:46*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:27:36 -0400, Dave Smith
>
> > wrote:
> >J. Clarke wrote:
> >> Just broke my 1 cup Fire-King measuring cup that I've have for so long I
> >> don't remember when I got it. *Was about to go out and get another one
> >> when it occurred to me that I'm seeing all kinds of fancy measuring cups
> >> in the stores--are any of them worthwhile improvements over the ordinary
> >> Pyrex/Fire King/whatever glass ones?
>
> >I like the sets of nesting stainless measuring cups. They makes it so
> >much easier to measure quarters, thirds, half cups etc. I also like to
> >use my 2 cup Pryrex for larger amounts, especially liquids because there
> >is room to add other things, like wet ingredients where an egg and/or
> >oil is required.
>
> I was under the impression the pyrex was only for wet measures and for
> dry you needed plastic or SS. *Was I mis-informed?
>

depends if you like to measure by leveling or by eyeballing. An ounce
is an ounce either way.

On Apr 29, 3:14*pm, sueb > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 2:36*pm, Chemiker > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:46:11 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>
> > > wrote:
> > >Just broke my 1 cup Fire-King measuring cup that I've have for so long I
> > >don't remember when I got it. *Was about to go out and get another one
> > >when it occurred to me that I'm seeing all kinds of fancy measuring cups
> > >in the stores--are any of them worthwhile improvements over the ordinary
> > >Pyrex/Fire King/whatever glass ones?
>
> > Some great advice here. Here's my 2c.
>
> > I love the pyrex cups, but they don't pour well in some cases.
>
> > OTOH: Oxo makes a series of plastic cups with soft handles that have
> > angled measuring scales so you can see how much is in the cup from the
> > top.
>
> > Metal (S/S) cups are great, but they are Hell in the microwave.
>
> > So: I use all three. The ones I use least are the Pyrex types. If I
> > can't pour cleanly, I don't need it.
>
> > The OXO's *are microwave safe, dishwasher safe and easy to read from
> > above. In my area, not cost prohibitive.
>
> > If I had to give up all except one line, I would opt for the OXO
> > product.
>


> I have two 2 cup measuring cups, one pyrex, one plastic. *I also have
> an 8 cup pyrex one that's great for batters or marinating.
>
> I don't see the point of a 1 cup measure.
>

I use my 1 cup 90% of the time. Nothing I make regularly uses that
much liquid. Only if I'm making jam do I need something bigger, and
the two cup works fine for that.

On Apr 30, 5:33*am, "J. Clarke" > wrote:

> While scales are useful, you seldom find recipes with quantities given
> by weight

Not in Germany. Germans do everything by weight, very precise -- but
then their process directions are very sketchy. The old German kitchen
balances (0-10kg) were also used to weigh the baby.

In article >,
"J. Clarke" > wrote:

> On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:

> >> As for Pyrex measuring jugs, they must be the poorest pourers in the
> >> business and after a few years will frost over if they are put in the
> >> dishwasher.
> >
> > Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>
> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
> the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
> that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.

I just use the carafe from the coffee maker. It has markings just like
a measuring cup!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:06:06 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I have more than 20 cookbooks. Only one of them indicates weights.
>
I have a lot more cookbooks than that and you may fine one where
weight is an alternative measure, but that's not even for every
recipe.


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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:25:02 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> Dan Abel wrote:
>>
>>> In the US? We have a cookbook, presumably for the US, with weights
>for
>>> the recipes. It was the darndest thing. For a stew, it was like 1
>>> pound, 2 ounces of potatoes, 9 ounces of carrots, etc. For a stew?
>>> What weird measures. After a little thought, I realized that somebody
>>> must have just converted metric recipes straight across, as that's
>500g
>>> and 250g.
>>
>> I have more than 20 cookbooks. Only one of them indicates weights.
>
>
>I inherited Mom's "Gourmet" cookbook volumes.
>
>They use measures but there's no ingredients list at the beginning of any
>recipe. The recipes read more like stories. In a pot of boiling water add
>this and then dice up a small onion and add that, etc., etc. You really
>have to pour over the recipes first to get a sense of how the recipe will
>come together and further figure out how best to prioritize the steps for
>time efficiency's sake. The two volumes date to 1957 and 1959, before
>cholesterol was a word, maybe.
>
I hate that kind of recipe, but it certainly does make you read it for
comprehension before embarking.


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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:28:49 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888
> wrote:

>On Apr 30, 5:33*am, "J. Clarke" > wrote:
>
>> While scales are useful, you seldom find recipes with quantities given
>> by weight
>
>Not in Germany. Germans do everything by weight, very precise -- but
>then their process directions are very sketchy. The old German kitchen
>balances (0-10kg) were also used to weigh the baby.

I would amend that to Europe in general... but not in the US.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sat, 01 May 2010 00:09:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

>On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>
>If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
>that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.
>

If you need a *measuring cup* just to get water into your coffee
maker, you're way too fussy. I use the coffee pot to pour it in.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:36:31 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> "J. Clarke" > wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> >> As for Pyrex measuring jugs, they must be the poorest pourers in the
>> >> business and after a few years will frost over if they are put in the
>> >> dishwasher.
>> >
>> > Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>>
>> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>> the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
>> that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.
>
>I just use the carafe from the coffee maker. It has markings just like
>a measuring cup!

I think we're found one that literally doesn't know how to boil water.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 5/1/2010 1:36 AM, Dan Abel wrote:
> In >,
> "J. > wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>
>>>> As for Pyrex measuring jugs, they must be the poorest pourers in the
>>>> business and after a few years will frost over if they are put in the
>>>> dishwasher.
>>>
>>> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>>
>> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>> the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
>> that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.
>
> I just use the carafe from the coffee maker. It has markings just like
> a measuring cup!

Mine has a thermal carafe. Stainless steel, no markings.

On 5/1/2010 5:49 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 01 May 2010 00:09:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> > wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>>
>> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>> the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
>> that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.
>>
>
> If you need a *measuring cup* just to get water into your coffee
> maker, you're way too fussy. I use the coffee pot to pour it in.

So how do you get the right amount into the insulated stainless steel
coffee pot?

J. Clarke wrote:
> On 5/1/2010 5:49 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 May 2010 00:09:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>> > wrote:

>>> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all
>>> over the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures
>>> for that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.

>> If you need a *measuring cup* just to get water into your coffee
>> maker, you're way too fussy. I use the coffee pot to pour it in.
>
> So how do you get the right amount into the insulated stainless steel
> coffee pot?

I had a carafe coffee maker so I became good at guessing how
much water to put into the carafe to pour to the water line on
the coffee maker. Not that you were looking for solutions to a
problem you don't have, but I'm too lazy to deal with an extra vessel.

nancy

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:06:06 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> In the US? We have a cookbook, presumably for the US, with weights for
>> the recipes. It was the darndest thing. For a stew, it was like 1
>> pound, 2 ounces of potatoes, 9 ounces of carrots, etc. For a stew?
>> What weird measures. After a little thought, I realized that somebody
>> must have just converted metric recipes straight across, as that's 500g
>> and 250g.

What is the name of that cookbook... I seriously doubt it is much of a
cookbook, probably not even a real book, probably has no ISBN number.

>I have more than 20 cookbooks. Only one of them indicates weights.

I don't believe that, every cookbook ever printed indicates some
ingredients by weight.

I have way more than 20 cookbooks, most indicate a mix of weights
(pounds/ounces), and volumes (ounces/cups), and count... most
stew/soup recipes indicate veggies by count and size, ie. 4 medium
potatoes.... most cookbooks indicate poultry by type, ie. 1
fryer/roaster chicken, not by weight at all.

Most NON US cookbooks indicate metric; weights/volumes, in
grams/kilos, liters.

Many of my newer cookbooks indicate both English and Metric
measurements. And most all newer cookbooks include a conversion
table.

On Sat, 01 May 2010 10:11:38 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

>On 5/1/2010 5:49 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 May 2010 00:09:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>>>
>>> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>>> the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
>>> that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.
>>>
>>
>> If you need a *measuring cup* just to get water into your coffee
>> maker, you're way too fussy. I use the coffee pot to pour it in.
>
>So how do you get the right amount into the insulated stainless steel
>coffee pot?
>
I'm still wondering why your aim is so bad.


--
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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sat, 01 May 2010 00:09:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

>On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:08:42 -0600, > wrote:
>>
>>> But with scales, one never has these problems.
>>
>> We're not scientists and we don't need scales.
>>
>>> As for Pyrex measuring jugs, they must be the poorest pourers in the
>>> business and after a few years will frost over if they are put in the
>>> dishwasher.
>>
>> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>
>If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>the counter.

What horsepucky... normal brained folks use the coffee caraffe to
measure and to pour water. Besides the measuring cup is in 8 ounce
cups, but coffee is measured in 6 ounce cups... makes me wonder about
you and Creedmore.

On 5/1/2010 11:26 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 01 May 2010 10:11:38 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/1/2010 5:49 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 01 May 2010 00:09:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>>>>
>>>> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>>>> the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
>>>> that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you need a *measuring cup* just to get water into your coffee
>>> maker, you're way too fussy. I use the coffee pot to pour it in.
>>
>> So how do you get the right amount into the insulated stainless steel
>> coffee pot?
>>
> I'm still wondering why your aim is so bad.

Aim's fine with an accurate weapon. Which I got and which I use and
which I'm happy with.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:00:01 -0700, Steve B wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:22:59 -0700, "Steve B"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Besides, it's impossible to have too many widgets in the kitchen.
>>
>> Bite your tongue! They are kitchen tools, not widgets. Certain
>> things are absolutely necessary and that's one of them.
>
> Kitchens are black holes. "Stuff" goes in, but nothing escapes.

<snort>

except for, hopefully, some food once in a while.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:42:34 -0700 (PDT), sueb wrote:
>
> For the record, I don't know where my 2cup measures came from, in
> spite of the fact that I've probably been using them for 30 years. I
> don't remember buying them, they must have been in some house we lived
> in. If only there had been a 1cup measure, I'd probably be a whole
> different person.
>
> Susan B.

you're probably the larger person for it.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:47:07 -0600, Arri London wrote:

> "J. Clarke" wrote:
>>
>> On 4/29/2010 6:53 PM, Arri London wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "J. Clarke" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just broke my 1 cup Fire-King measuring cup that I've have for so long I
>>>> don't remember when I got it. Was about to go out and get another one
>>>> when it occurred to me that I'm seeing all kinds of fancy measuring cups
>>>> in the stores--are any of them worthwhile improvements over the ordinary
>>>> Pyrex/Fire King/whatever glass ones?
>>>
>>> If you want real accuracy, get labware However the Pyrex ones are
>>> good.
>>
>> Do you have a source for labware that's marked in ounces for a
>> reasonable price?
>
> I don't know any labware that is marked in ounces. It's all metric
> AFAIK.
>
> Most cities have someone who sells surplus lab glassware.

i don't know how you'd make out looking for lab glassware marked in ounces,
but this site has some pretty amazing stuff, a lot of it adaptable to
kitchen uses:

<http://www.sciplus.com/sitemap.cfm>

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 01 May 2010 08:26:34 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 01 May 2010 10:11:38 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:
>
>>On 5/1/2010 5:49 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 01 May 2010 00:09:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>>>>
>>>> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>>>> the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
>>>> that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you need a *measuring cup* just to get water into your coffee
>>> maker, you're way too fussy. I use the coffee pot to pour it in.
>>
>>So how do you get the right amount into the insulated stainless steel
>>coffee pot?
>>
>I'm still wondering why your aim is so bad.

I would not want the job of cleaning the floor (and maybe the walls)
in his bathroom...

On Sat, 01 May 2010 10:09:08 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

>On 5/1/2010 1:36 AM, Dan Abel wrote:
>> In >,
>> "J. > wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>>>>> As for Pyrex measuring jugs, they must be the poorest pourers in the
>>>>> business and after a few years will frost over if they are put in the
>>>>> dishwasher.
>>>>
>>>> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>>>
>>> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>>> the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
>>> that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.
>>
>> I just use the carafe from the coffee maker. It has markings just like
>> a measuring cup!
>
>Mine has a thermal carafe. Stainless steel, no markings.

Every ADC with a SS Thermal Caraffe I've ever seen is a high end
machine that has a water level gauge built into the unit... sometimes
a view tube on the exterior, sometimes markings inside the reservoir
that can be viewed through the opening where the water is poured in.
Most low end machines nowadays, even those with glass caraffes with
markings, still have a water level gauge integrel to the unit. I've
never heard of anyone using a cook's measuring cup to fill an ADC,
doesn't even make sense... may as well use a jelly jar... ADCs are
calibrated to the *six* ounce cup.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:08:42 -0600, "graham" > wrote:
>
>>But with scales, one never has these problems.
>
> We're not scientists and we don't need scales.
>

As Emeril, on Emeril Live, often used to say: "Baking is science! Get
yourself some scales!"

No serious baker uses cups. In fact arguably the best non-professional
baking book published in the USA* recommends weighing as do the
Williams-Sonoma books. Both give "bi-lingual" recipes for those stuck in the
age of the covered wagon. All the serious bread-books for the home baker
also push the weighing of ingredients.
A cup of flour can weigh anywhere from ~100g to ~150g. If you are making a
spongecake, that's the difference between a light, fluffy cake and a
doorstop!

*
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/...rsary-cookbook

Graham

On 5/1/2010 2:13 PM, Prof Wonmug wrote:
> On Sat, 01 May 2010 08:26:34 -0700, > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 01 May 2010 10:11:38 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/1/2010 5:49 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 01 May 2010 00:09:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/30/2010 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poor pourer? What are you trying to do? Good grief, dump it in.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I try to "dump it in" the coffee machine I end up with water all over
>>>>> the counter. I have one of the Norpro 4 cup flexible measures for
>>>>> that--not all that accurate but it pours wonderfully.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you need a *measuring cup* just to get water into your coffee
>>>> maker, you're way too fussy. I use the coffee pot to pour it in.
>>>
>>> So how do you get the right amount into the insulated stainless steel
>>> coffee pot?
>>>
>> I'm still wondering why your aim is so bad.
>
> I would not want the job of cleaning the floor (and maybe the walls)
> in his bathroom...

I'd not like the job of designing a tool small enough to measure your
maturity level.