On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:58:14 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:43:34 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 05 May 2010 16:02:58 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>
>>>>> Yes, it seems a lot of folks have difficulty understanding the relative
>>>>> size of things and just focus on the hype, not the details.
>>>>
>>>> yer nuts. this is a bona-fide disaster.
>>>>
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> Someone noted on another group, that a recent scientific report on
>>> subsea oil seeps showed that this leak was on the order of 1% of the
>>> total crude oil seeping into the oceans naturally every year.
>>
>>are the other leaks 50 miles from an immensely valuable estuary which is
>>already in somewhat fragile condition?
>>
>>how many billions of dollars of damages are required for you to think that
>>this just a momentary hiccup?
>
> I ain't no tree hugger but IMO every drop of oil in the water not put
> there by mother nature is a bad thing.
>
> Lou

i read somewhere on the 'net (no cite, sorry) that only something like ten
percent of the oil from the valdez spill was 'recovered.' not a good
thing.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 06 May 2010 13:06:55 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 05 May 2010 16:02:58 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>>
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 04 May 2010 13:06:59 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sky wrote:
>>>>>>> Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>>>> What on earth makes you think that the current oil leak has any effect
>>>>>>>> on current gulf oyster stocks, will have any effect on gulf oyster
>>>>>>>> stocks in the near term, or that the oysters you would be getting at a
>>>>>>>> large chain restaurant (Papas's is a very large group) would be local
>>>>>>>> gulf oysters anyway?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Simple economics, eh?! Supply & Demand -- the Supply of "fresh" seafood
>>>>>>> from the Gulf of Mexico will very soon end and become, if not already,
>>>>>>> nil or very nearly so (
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sky, who is no economist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S. I have to wonder what sort of 'news' Pete C reads, hears or
>>>>>>> watches ?!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Gulf is larger than where the oil spill is. Down here, below the
>>>>>> coastal band, we don't anticipate any problems where the oyster beds
>>>>>> are. The shrimpers are a bit worried but they range much farther north.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it seems a lot of folks have difficulty understanding the relative
>>>>> size of things and just focus on the hype, not the details.
>>>>
>>>> yer nuts. this is a bona-fide disaster.
>>>>
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> Someone noted on another group, that a recent scientific report on
>>> subsea oil seeps showed that this leak was on the order of 1% of the
>>> total crude oil seeping into the oceans naturally every year.
>>
>> are the other leaks 50 miles from an immensely valuable estuary which is
>> already in somewhat fragile condition?
>>
>> how many billions of dollars of damages are required for you to think that
>> this just a momentary hiccup?
>
> So far it's all wild speculation on what might happen. When I see what
> actually does happen, then I will asses the severity of the incident
> beyond the obvious 11 drill rig crew member deaths which everyone seems
> to be ignoring.

yet you seem to think any and all concern is 'hype.'

blake

On Wed, 5 May 2010 16:29:38 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

> Janet Wilder > wrote:
>
>>Sqwertz wrote:
>
>>> All of the legendary, "Central Texas BBQ Dynasties" (and then some)
>>> have come up with lousy reviews lately. I've tried two of them
>>> recently (Coopers and Blacks) and they were extremely salty and
>>> lacked flavor. This seems to be a common complaint amongst many of
>>> them.
>
> I assume Spring Creek and Dickie's are in this category.

Never heard of them. By Dynasty I refer to families that have been
famous for their BBQ for at least two generations. "And then some"
refers to the other somewhat local classics.

The official Dynasties:
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...id=oid%3A83560

The others (includes most dynasties):
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...id=oid%3A83569

There is one other one that has joined the list in recent years, and
that is Snow's. Otherwise those lists haven't changed in 9 years.

-sw

Sqwertz > wrote:

>Never heard of them. By Dynasty I refer to families that have been
>famous for their BBQ for at least two generations. "And then some"
>refers to the other somewhat local classics.

>The official Dynasties:
>http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...id=oid%3A83560

>The others (includes most dynasties):
>http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...id=oid%3A83569

>There is one other one that has joined the list in recent years, and
>that is Snow's. Otherwise those lists haven't changed in 9 years.

Right.

The only one I went to of these was Mueller's. It was really
really below average quality. (They seemed to be aware of this
too, the young person, possibly a Mueller, looked sort of
embarrased since we obviously were on an expedition just to
go there.)


Steve

On Sun, 9 May 2010 04:03:10 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>>The official Dynasties:
>>http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...id=oid%3A83560
>
>>The others (includes most dynasties):
>>http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...id=oid%3A83569
>
>>There is one other one that has joined the list in recent years, and
>>that is Snow's. Otherwise those lists haven't changed in 9 years.
>
> Right.
>
> The only one I went to of these was Mueller's. It was really
> really below average quality. (They seemed to be aware of this
> too, the young person, possibly a Mueller, looked sort of
> embarrased since we obviously were on an expedition just to
> go there.)

John Mueller, the son, opened a restaurant in Austin that was
excellent (often had beef short ribs - the best ever), and excellent
brisket. But he had very inconsistent hours and somehow managed to
lose his lease even though he packed them in when he was open.

He received a lot of non-culinary criticism, I'm not sure what
originally spurred that - I think he was just wasn't a people person
which would jive with my couple of conversations with him.

Then his former landlord posted in his defense that the City kept
him from opening for several months while the space was brought up
to code, all the while paying [what had to be a measly] rent. It
was a run-down shack on lousy property - like all good BBQ places.

Then he opened up in manor and that ended up closing, too. Then he
posted a big "Well, **** you all!" to an online forum - maybe it was
Chowhound - and that was the last we heard of him.

-sw