Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
the pros and cons.......
-ginny

On May 7, 8:52*am, "Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:
> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> the pros and cons.......

WW can never live down this:
http://www.candyboots.com/wwcards.html

It's like a guy who used to rape puppies and kittens when he was a
teenager. Once a sicko...

> -ginny

--Bryan

On May 7, 8:52*am, "Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:
> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> the pros and cons.......
> -ginny

My DIL and son do Weigh****chers and it works for them. Most people I
know who have used WW have been very successful. But I think it's
like smoking - you have to really want to make it work, no matter what
program it is. Jennifer Hudson's commercial is very compelling.

My SIL does one web-based calorie-counting - "My Diet," or My Daily
Diet," or something like that - it worked great for her.

I note Jenny Craig doesn't have a real good celebrity image - Kirstie
Alley, Queen Latifah - seem not to have been terribly successful, or
have stopped the regimen.

Nutrisystem seems successful - now they have separate programs for
diabetics and for seniors. Not every program works for every person,
so you'll just have to pick one and stick to it.

N.

On 5/7/2010 8:52 AM, Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> the pros and cons.......
> -ginny
>
>
The con is that all of them are fairly expensive. So far Nutrisystem
appears to be the cheapest but that just may be appearances. I haven't
tried any of them, I am resigned to being a pot-bellied old man. <G>

Actually I'm quite comfortable in this old stretched-out skin, I've been
wearing it a long time.

On Fri, 07 May 2010 10:04:17 -0500, George Shirley wrote:

> On 5/7/2010 8:52 AM, Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
>> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
>> the pros and cons.......
>> -ginny
>>
>>
> The con is that all of them are fairly expensive. So far Nutrisystem
> appears to be the cheapest but that just may be appearances. I haven't
> tried any of them, I am resigned to being a pot-bellied old man. <G>
>
> Actually I'm quite comfortable in this old stretched-out skin, I've been
> wearing it a long time.

wail with it, george!

your pal,
blake

On May 7, 9:34*am, Nancy2 > wrote:
> On May 7, 8:52*am, "Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:
>
> > Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> > the pros and cons.......
> > -ginny
>
> My DIL and son do Weigh****chers and it works for them. *Most people I
> know who have used WW have been very successful. *But I think it's
> like smoking - you have to really want to make it work, no matter what
> program it is. *Jennifer Hudson's commercial is very compelling.
>
> My SIL does one web-based calorie-counting - "My Diet," or My Daily
> Diet," or something like that - it worked great for her.
>
> I note Jenny Craig doesn't have a real good celebrity image - Kirstie
> Alley, Queen Latifah - seem not to have been terribly successful, or
> have stopped the regimen.
>
> Nutrisystem seems successful - now they have separate programs for
> diabetics and for seniors. *Not every program works for every person,
> so you'll just have to pick one and stick to it.
>
> N.

I believe both NutriSystem and Jenny Craig send you your meals, but
you are required to add in fresh items like fresh fruit and
vegetables, etc. So the cost of the food isn't the whole cost. But I
don't know for sure.

N.

In article >,
"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:

> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> the pros and cons.......
> -ginny

What does your doc recommend? Look into the National Institutes of
Health site. There are lots of sane eating plans; maintaining will only
come with exercise combined with sensible eating.


--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

On May 7, 3:21*pm, Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:
>
> > Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> > the pros and cons.......
> > -ginny
>
> What does your doc recommend? *Look into the National Institutes of
> Health site. *There are lots of sane eating plans; maintaining will only
> come with exercise combined with sensible eating.
>
> --
> Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJhttp://web.me.com/barbschaller
> Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

....and the older you are, the more exercise you need. Very
discouraging to some.

N.

"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
...
> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> the pros and cons.......
> -ginny
>
>

Stick with the Weight Watchers. It's the cheapest option overall
(significantly!!), and it teaches you how to read food labels and make
better food choices (as well as portion control). Getting your meals
delivered to you every week doesn't give you the skills you need to be able
to maintain your weight loss after you're done with the program. I've used
WW and it works! And while I haven't paid for JC or NS before, I have tried
their meals and IMHO they were awful. Granted, that was a long time ago --
hopefully they've improved their formulations. And nobody I know that has
used JC or NS has ever maintained their weight loss after stopping the
program. Not one. I've used WW and it works! Besides, it's a heck of a
lot easier to get back on the bandwagon with WW when you've fallen off. If
you're lucky and can "join" when they're offering free enrollment, WW
becomes nearly free. You don't actually need to pay for and go to the
weekly meetings once you've gone to the first couple and have learned how to
do their program. I didn't really find them all that helpful but some
people like the encouragement that comes from the sharing aspect provided.

Jinx

Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
>
> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> the pros and cons.......
> -ginny

Can't help there. However the local Jenny Craig outlets did well enough
until the franchise owner decided to appear in her own adverts. She was
considerably overweight at the time of filming. Sales dropped
substantially. She doesn't appear anymore

Any system that depends on overpriced prepackaged foods isn't going to
do anyone good in the long term. Apparently Weight Watchers teaches good
food habits and doesn't base the programme on food they sell. However
they do sell frozen meals in supermarkets.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:
>
>> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
>> the pros and cons.......
>> -ginny
>
> What does your doc recommend? Look into the National Institutes of
> Health site. There are lots of sane eating plans; maintaining will only
> come with exercise combined with sensible eating.
>
>
> --
> Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> http://web.me.com/barbschaller
> Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures


The doctor, a little Asian girl, said 'you gettin' fat, go on diet'....I
asked 'what diet' and she gave me the number of a nutritionist who, for an
astronomical fee would 'pattern a diet' for me, blah blah blah. Wanna lose
some weight so my feet and knees don't completely rebel.
-ginny
(who remembers the 140lb. bride that is buried underneath all of this)....

PVC wrote about Bryan's criticism of Stu's shitty site:

> Why are you so worried about it? I agree, the website is crapola, but
> really, why do you care so much?

Maybe it's because some posters here (Om, for example) seem to think that
Stu's site is a valuable repository of culinary treasure, rather than the
giant steaming pile of shit that it actually is.

Bob

In article >,
"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:

> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> the pros and cons.......
> -ginny

Diets don't work.
Only permanent lifestyle changes.

That about sums it up. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> PVC wrote about Bryan's criticism of Stu's shitty site:
>
> > Why are you so worried about it? I agree, the website is crapola, but
> > really, why do you care so much?
>
> Maybe it's because some posters here (Om, for example) seem to think that
> Stu's site is a valuable repository of culinary treasure, rather than the
> giant steaming pile of shit that it actually is.
>
> Bob

That is because Om knows how to pick her own ingredients and knows how
to cook, and Stu's site has a lot of valuable and interesting ideas...
especially the video recipe of the week (my personal favorite feature),

and I don't see YOU building your own cooking website.

Put up or shut up.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

Om wrote:

> and I don't see YOU building your own cooking website.
>
> Put up or shut up.

That's a weak ****ing argument and you know it. I don't have to craft a
masterpiece in order to recognize crap.

Bob

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Om wrote:
>
> > and I don't see YOU building your own cooking website.
> >
> > Put up or shut up.
>
> That's a weak ****ing argument and you know it. I don't have to craft a
> masterpiece in order to recognize crap.
>
> Bob

Yes, you do.
Otherwise you have no real basis for comparison.

I repeat, put up or shut up.

Only the greater artisan has the right to criticize another.

I seriously dare you to put up a cooking site. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

Om wrote:

> Only the greater artisan has the right to criticize another.

That's ridiculous. If that were the case, NOBODY would be able to criticize
artwork, because every artist thinks his or her art is the greatest.

Your thought-fu is weak today.

Bob

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Om wrote:
>
> > Only the greater artisan has the right to criticize another.
>
> That's ridiculous. If that were the case, NOBODY would be able to criticize
> artwork, because every artist thinks his or her art is the greatest.
>
> Your thought-fu is weak today.
>
> Bob

I still stand by that opinion.
Put up or shut up.

I have yet to see your "art" other than some really oddball recipes.

I see no pics. Did you actually make them or just imagine them?

I, at least, intend to make up a website (and currently have the Picasa
albums) but I've not seen YOU do anything.

Stu's website deserves some respect. It is a LOT of work to create and
maintain something like that!

If you are too lazy to do the same, then you lose your right to judge!
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

Om wrote:

> Stu's website deserves some respect. It is a LOT of work to create and
> maintain something like that!
>
> If you are too lazy to do the same, then you lose your right to judge!

By now, you might have realized the error in your thinking which I pointed
out: I am criticizing RECIPES. I *do* post recipes. I have every right to
criticize recipes. Do you disagree with that?

Bob

Om wrote:

> I have yet to see your "art" other than some really oddball recipes.
>
> I see no pics. Did you actually make them or just imagine them?

So you *are* taking lessons from clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz?
Or are you now a disciple of projectile vomit lardass?

Yes, if I post that I've made something, I actually did make it. Sometimes
pictures are posted on Facebook. I don't post pictures of every meal because
I'm not a narcissist.

If you are unwilling to join Facebook, that's *your* problem, not mine.
Others have seen the photos, and some of them have even eaten the food I
prepared. I have no interest at all in broadcasting my cooking photos to the
entire world. I don't care whether you believe I cooked those things or not,
and having photos on a web site wouldn't conclusively prove it anyway.

Bob

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Om wrote:
>
> > Stu's website deserves some respect. It is a LOT of work to create and
> > maintain something like that!
> >
> > If you are too lazy to do the same, then you lose your right to judge!
>
> By now, you might have realized the error in your thinking which I pointed
> out: I am criticizing RECIPES. I *do* post recipes. I have every right to
> criticize recipes. Do you disagree with that?
>
> Bob

I disagree with you criticizing the WEBSITE since you don't have one and
won't put one up...

There is more to his site than just recipes.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> If you are unwilling to join Facebook, that's *your* problem, not mine.

Many people don't wish to join "face****" for a number of reasons.

Once again, I dare you to build a real website.

Or are you just lazy?
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

Om wrote:

>> If you are unwilling to join Facebook, that's *your* problem, not mine.
>
> Many people don't wish to join "face****" for a number of reasons.
>
> Once again, I dare you to build a real website.
>
> Or are you just lazy?

Give me a *reason* to build a web site. How much money will you give me to
do it? "Daring" me isn't going to motivate me.

Put up or shut up.

Bob

On May 7, 9:52*am, "Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:
> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> the pros and cons.......
> -ginny

I have seen wonderful results from WW. Maybe you can just get their
cookbooks and go from there?

I have gained no weight in 40 years. I attribute this to:

daily exercise - join a gym - the expense will keep you going there,
quit buying junk snacks - limit soda drastically,
quit eating in fast food joints,
cook as close to scratch as you can,
no second helpings,
no skipping meals,
NO eating after 7 pm,
let dessert be a treat once in a while,
shop the periphery,
assemble a lot of low cal low fat recipes.

I don't limit carbs, and I am vigilant on saturated fats.

Nutrisystem is awful - expensive and everything seems to have tomatos.

On May 8, 7:10*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>
> > If you are unwilling to join Facebook, that's *your* problem, not mine.
>
> Many people don't wish to join "face****" for a number of reasons.

Some of them good ones.
>
> Once again, I dare you to build a real website.
>
> Or are you *just lazy?

You could set up a dummy Facebook site with no identifying info, just
to use to access others' pages, but maybe you're just too lazy.

> --
> Peace! Om

--Bryan

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Om wrote:
>
> >> If you are unwilling to join Facebook, that's *your* problem, not mine.
> >
> > Many people don't wish to join "face****" for a number of reasons.
> >
> > Once again, I dare you to build a real website.
> >
> > Or are you just lazy?
>
> Give me a *reason* to build a web site.

I don't need to. You have already stated it, in Spades.

> How much money will you give me to
> do it? "Daring" me isn't going to motivate me.
>
> Put up or shut up.
>
> Bob

Why should I devote my hard earned money to prove you a hypocrite?
I can do that for free. ;-)

Just because you are too lazy to compete fairly...

I think you are jealous of Stu's site because you can't afford to launch
one?
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article
>,
Food Snob® > wrote:

> On May 8, 7:10*am, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > *"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die spammer.biz> wrote:
> >
> > > If you are unwilling to join Facebook, that's *your* problem, not mine.
> >
> > Many people don't wish to join "face****" for a number of reasons.
>
> Some of them good ones.
> >
> > Once again, I dare you to build a real website.
> >
> > Or are you *just lazy?
>
> You could set up a dummy Facebook site with no identifying info, just
> to use to access others' pages, but maybe you're just too lazy.
>
> > --
> > Peace! Om
>
> --Bryan

<shrugs> Plenty of people (myself included) set up places where people
can view their pics without joining face****.

See my sig... which is PUBLIC.

So is tinypic.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>
>> Om wrote:
>>
>> >> If you are unwilling to join Facebook, that's *your* problem, not
>> >> mine.
>> >
>> > Many people don't wish to join "face****" for a number of reasons.
>> >
>> > Once again, I dare you to build a real website.
>> >
>> > Or are you just lazy?
>>
>> Give me a *reason* to build a web site.
>
> I don't need to. You have already stated it, in Spades.
>
>> How much money will you give me to
>> do it? "Daring" me isn't going to motivate me.
>>
>> Put up or shut up.
>>
>> Bob
>
> Why should I devote my hard earned money to prove you a hypocrite?
> I can do that for free. ;-)
>
> Just because you are too lazy to compete fairly...
>
> I think you are jealous of Stu's site because you can't afford to launch
> one?
> --
> Peace! Om
>

Well, it really costs next to nothing to put up a website. You used to be
able to put up free ones all over the place.

Jinx

On Fri, 07 May 2010 19:04:10 -0600, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
>>
>> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
>> the pros and cons.......
>> -ginny
>
>Can't help there. However the local Jenny Craig outlets did well enough
>until the franchise owner decided to appear in her own adverts. She was
>considerably overweight at the time of filming. Sales dropped
>substantially. She doesn't appear anymore
>
>Any system that depends on overpriced prepackaged foods isn't going to
>do anyone good in the long term. Apparently Weight Watchers teaches good
>food habits and doesn't base the programme on food they sell. However
>they do sell frozen meals in supermarkets.

Heard something on the news this AM about a "baby food diet".

http://www.dietsinreview.com/diets/Baby_Food_Diet/

And here I was hoping for a breast milk diet, on tap of course!

On Fri, 7 May 2010 09:52:12 -0400, "Virginia Tadrzynski"
> wrote:

>Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
>the pros and cons.......
>-ginny
>
I would not go with any program that sells you food. Take a look at
the Nutrisystem site and see what the meals are and what they are made
of. Looks to me like you could do better with the Lean Cuisine type
frozen meals with some added fresh vegetables and fruit.

I have a couple of books by Martin Katahn, Phd.D.. One is "The
T-Factor Diet" and the other is "One Meal at a Time." They both have
the same philosophy, low fat balanced meals. There is no food group
that you may not eat, maybe just less of the higher calorie foods.
Both of the books are available on Amazon, many used.

If you like the idea of being in a group, Weight Watchers is very
good. One of the women who goes to the gym I used went from 300 to
150 pounds. It was not overnight and I think she exercised at the
same time.

Calories do count.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On Sat, 08 May 2010 05:53:59 -0500, Andy wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>>
>>> PVC wrote about Bryan's criticism of Stu's shitty site:
>>>
>>> > Why are you so worried about it? I agree, the website is crapola,
>>> > but really, why do you care so much?
>>>
>>> Maybe it's because some posters here (Om, for example) seem to think
>>> that Stu's site is a valuable repository of culinary treasure, rather
>>> than the giant steaming pile of shit that it actually is.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> That is because Om knows how to pick her own ingredients and knows how
>> to cook, and Stu's site has a lot of valuable and interesting ideas...
>> especially the video recipe of the week (my personal favorite
>> feature),
>>
>> and I don't see YOU building your own cooking website.
>>
>> Put up or shut up.
>
> Om... ever the diplomat!
>
> Andy

no kidding. just the other day i saw her calling a bunch of people 'fags.'

blake

"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
...
> Okay, who here has tried this program? NutraSystem? Jenny Craig? What are
> the pros and cons.......
> -ginny

I have known people on all of them.

Jenny Craig seems to be all about portion control. You eat only what is
provided in your meal kits and nothing more. The cost of their food is not
horribly expensive but the shipping will add up in a hurry. I have tried
one of their dishes and found it to be about as bad as any microwave food.
Edible but nothing to rave about. If you strictly adhere to it you are
bound to lose weight. You'd get the same results if you strictly adhered to
any portion and calorie control diet, though.

NutraSystems was all the rage in an office I supported. Everyone was doing
it. Nobody lost much weight as I recall. Not sure why.

Atkins works but it can be very monotonous unless you are a very creative
cook. And all those ingredients really can jack up your food bill. And my
gawd but you get so tired of meat.

Mediterranean diet is wonderful. Really damned expensive too. All that
seafood is premium priced. I'd live on it of I had about 1000.00 a month to
buy those great ingredients like fresh snapper, clams, mussels and fresh
veggies.

What really does work seems to be entire diet changes such as the two above.
South Beach works for a lot of people. But with all of them, you have to
stick with it and not stray. That's the hard part.

I tend to avoid any diet that requires you buy their products. You can do
better and cheaper. I priced an Atkins bar for example and the damned thing
was 2 bucks for a couple of bites of food. I can eat half a baked chicken
for that much.

Paul

Hi Ginny,

I am currently on Jenny Craig to lose 10lbs that have been impossible to lose, and the style of the diet is truly amazing. It is the first diet I've tried where I have a consultant and the food is actually good. I am a former chef so I am quite picky about frozen foods. You are incorporating a lot of fruit, veggies, yogurt and non-fat milk into the diet too, so it is very healthy.
I have 2 friends that did NutraSystem and they sent it all back within the first week. TERRIBLE food. Weight Watchers seems to be pretty good but the point system seems troublesome for a simple person like myself.

Artistic Taste

Has anyone mentioned Overeaters Anonymous?



--
Dan Goodman
"I have always depended on the kindness of stranglers."
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In article >,
"Jinx Minx" > wrote:

> >>Well, it really costs next to nothing to put up a website. You used to be
> >>able to put up free ones all over the place.
> >>
> >>Jinx
> >>
> >
> > Yes, but a domain is the way to go ( $ for the domain name and $ for
> > hosting), that way you don't have their annoying pop ups or ads
> > displaying. For the most part sites that allow free webspace end up
> > with thousands of pharmacy sites linking to china and other european
> > country's. Many blog sites do the same with their advertisers' ads
> > there 24/7, while the blog provides advertising traffic. You've seen
> > emails from such have you not?
>
> Yes I have, and I'm well aware of the diferences between the free public
> sites and hosting your own domain.
>
> Jinx

I just paid $50.00 for my domain name, for 5 years...

Imho, $10.00 per year is not expensive.

The website is not up yet, but it will be eventually.
The Picasa web album thru gmail is free, and it's not loaded with
advertising.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

Stu wrote:

> btw... on an average day I get 2800 visits (which last on average 4
> min.). Since Bob has started this tirade it's up around 3500 ( and 6
> min.), thanks Bob.

Congratulations! Surely this will be the start of a new era of prosperity
and grace.

Bob

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sat, 08 May 2010 05:53:59 -0500, Andy wrote:
>
> > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
> >>
> >>> PVC wrote about Bryan's criticism of Stu's shitty site:
> >>>
> >>> > Why are you so worried about it? I agree, the website is crapola,
> >>> > but really, why do you care so much?
> >>>
> >>> Maybe it's because some posters here (Om, for example) seem to think
> >>> that Stu's site is a valuable repository of culinary treasure, rather
> >>> than the giant steaming pile of shit that it actually is.
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>
> >> That is because Om knows how to pick her own ingredients and knows how
> >> to cook, and Stu's site has a lot of valuable and interesting ideas...
> >> especially the video recipe of the week (my personal favorite
> >> feature),
> >>
> >> and I don't see YOU building your own cooking website.
> >>
> >> Put up or shut up.
> >
> > Om... ever the diplomat!
> >
> > Andy
>
> no kidding. just the other day i saw her calling a bunch of people 'fags.'
>
> blake

Cite please?
That one is not part of my vocabulary!
--
Peace! Om

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Om wrote:

>> Give me a *reason* to build a web site.
>
> I don't need to. You have already stated it, in Spades.

No, I have given reasons *not* to build a web site. You're the one who wants
me to build one: Why should I?



>> How much money will you give me to
>> do it? "Daring" me isn't going to motivate me.
>>
>> Put up or shut up.
>>
>> Bob
>
> Why should I devote my hard earned money to prove you a hypocrite?
> I can do that for free. ;-)

Yeah, you talk real big, but you've proven nothing. Summer is coming on, and
there will be the inevitable rash of kids who die because their parents
leave them in the car while they run into the store for "just a few
minutes." When confronted, some of those parents will say, "You can't
criticize me unless you have kids of your own." That's logically IDENTICAL
to the argument you're putting forth. I'm sure that you already know that,
and you're just trying to bait me. It's not going to work. You have to give
me a REAL reason to build the web site.



> Just because you are too lazy to compete fairly...
>
> I think you are jealous of Stu's site because you can't afford to launch
> one?

Yep, lazy and indigent, that's me. As you surely know, comparing cooking
posts to cooking posts *is* competing fairly. You're just being
argumentative, even though you know your cause is lost. You must REALLY be
bored.

Bob

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> > Why should I devote my hard earned money to prove you a hypocrite?
> > I can do that for free. ;-)
>
> Yeah, you talk real big, but you've proven nothing. Summer is coming on, and
> there will be the inevitable rash of kids who die because their parents
> leave them in the car while they run into the store for "just a few
> minutes." When confronted, some of those parents will say, "You can't
> criticize me unless you have kids of your own." That's logically IDENTICAL
> to the argument you're putting forth. I'm sure that you already know that,
> and you're just trying to bait me. It's not going to work. You have to give
> me a REAL reason to build the web site.

Oh please...

Bad parenting and responsibility for living humans (children) has Jack
Schidt to do with owning a freakin' website!

How dare you make that kind of comparison?
--
Peace! Om

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Om wrote:

>> > Om... ever the diplomat!
>> >
>> > Andy
>>
>> no kidding. just the other day i saw her calling a bunch of people
>> 'fags.'
>>
>> blake
>
> Cite please?
> That one is not part of my vocabulary!

blake was facetiously alluding to all the times that Andy has called people
"fags."

Bob