On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:59:59 -0600, "gloria.p" >
wrote:

> I'm sure it makes lovely photos and is good for the local economy, but
> it sure is hard on the less-affluent friends and relatives who are
> expected to attend and spend a fortune on airfare, hotels and a gift
> commensurate with the venue.

<whispers> They do it so they will get more "no" answers than yes,
because they *don't* want all those guests. If they did, they'd fly
them over on *their dime* - or have the wedding closer.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:


[snipped stuff about weddings]

> I'd never blow $150.00 per plate.
> That's just asinine...
>
> Maybe $15.00.

You don't understand, Om. US$15 is what it's *worth*, US$150 is what
you have to pay. Somebody has posted the exact formula here before.
Take a [whatever], tack the word "wedding" in front of it, and the price
is multiplied many times.

:-)

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 00:19:16 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:

> The message >
> from blake murphy > contains these words:
>
>> i've thought about getting tats on my legs, like an old-fashioned
>> cracker-box '------ cut on dotted line ------ ' or maybe on my right leg
>> 'not this one' and on the left 'the other one.'
>
> LOL.
> My son has a long scar from elbow to wrist, still marked with all
> the stitches ; looks like a centipede.
> He's considered having a head tattooed onto it, or a zip tag.
>
> Janet

there's a fair number of amp tats out the

<http://www.oddee.com/item_96857.aspx>

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 31 May 2010 16:26:36 -0600, gloria.p wrote:

> sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:36:03 -0500, (Betsy) wrote:
>>
>>>> Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Mon,
>>>> May 31, 2010, 10:10am (CDT+1) From:
>>>> (brooklyn1)
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> On my left arm I have an octopus with
>>>> only six testicles... LOL... no one has
>>>> ever noticed.
>>> Six "testicles"? :-)
>>
>> It's a combination of spellcheck and not paying attention.
>>
>
> Nah, it's just Sheldon being Sheldon.
>
> gloria p

i would say 'it's just sheldon being stupid,' but that amounts to the same
thing.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >> there was a story about some kook who was dead set against any
> >> medical intervention of any kind who had "DNR' and some other kind of
> >> medical directive tattooed on his chest.
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> > Department of Natural Resources? Weird.
>
> I believe it stand for "Do Not Resuscitate" in this context.

I know. I was being a smarty pants. :-)
>
> > OB Food - a bagel with peanut butter on top and a handful of bing
> > cherries. And copious amounts of coffee.
>
> Just had a burger, washed down with a glass of cola

Sounds like a nice lunch. :-)

--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
>
> [snipped stuff about weddings]
>
>> I'd never blow $150.00 per plate.
>> That's just asinine...
>>
>> Maybe $15.00.
>
> You don't understand, Om. US$15 is what it's *worth*, US$150 is what
> you have to pay. Somebody has posted the exact formula here before.
> Take a [whatever], tack the word "wedding" in front of it, and the price
> is multiplied many times.
>
> :-)
>
Paying $15/meal for any catered event is not exactly buying you much
more than a pot luck type meal. Catered parties of ANY sort (weddings,
fancy organizational dinners, promotion parties, anniversary or birthday
events) cost more when the food is fancier. I often organize simple
catered lunch events and even for a cold yet fairly plain lunch (nice
sandwich or salad, beverage, dessert) costs $10/head delivered. So I
figure a nicer selection of hot foods, some wine and liquor and more
service will cost more. I think $150 is usually unnecessary yet $15 is
unrealistic for a celebratory event.

Steve replied:

>> If you didn't know the right answer, it's best not to post at all.
>
> Cripes, it's not like we are editors charged with fact-checking.
> This is a conversation, not a pronouncement of the Truth.

Even when the person declaring medical misinformation purports to be a
medical professional?

Bob

Janet Baraclough wrote:

>
> One of my sons went to a wedding a few months ago, at a ski resort in
> Utah .The couple work in the US. He flew from Scotland, met up with
> college friends from all over the world, and they (including the bride and
> groom) combined their usual annual ski-ing holiday abroad with a wedding and
> the honeymoon. Next month, he;s flying to Portugal for another wedding,
> that couple don't even live there.One of my friends here, has a daughter
> who married a Canadian; they decided since half the family would have to
> travel longhaul anyway, just to hold the wedding in the Caribbean and
> combine it with a big family holiday. She said that from the mother of
> the bride POV it was completely painless and effortless as the resort do
> all the wedding and reception arrangements (via the internet). All they
> had to do was turn up and enjoy.
>
> Janet



The nicest wedding we've ever attended was in Sweden. The bride was
Swedish, the groom from England. The ~120 guests included family and
college and business friends from 16 countries, as far away as South
Africa and Australia. I mentioned the food here at the time.

The festivities lasted 4-5 days as guests arrived from all over. We
took advantage of the location and left the day after for an 8 day
Norwegian Hurtigruten, a fjord cruise on a coastal freighter from Bergen
in the south to the Russian border.

That kind of wedding wouldn't have been done in our day but we were
married young and fewer people had that kind of money back then.

gloria p

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Steve replied:
>
>>> If you didn't know the right answer, it's best not to post at all.
>> Cripes, it's not like we are editors charged with fact-checking.
>> This is a conversation, not a pronouncement of the Truth.
>
> Even when the person declaring medical misinformation purports to be a
> medical professional?
>
> Bob
>
<cough cough> lab professional, not medical professional

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Steve replied:
>
>>> If you didn't know the right answer, it's best not to post at all.
>> Cripes, it's not like we are editors charged with fact-checking.
>> This is a conversation, not a pronouncement of the Truth.
>
> Even when the person declaring medical misinformation purports to be a
> medical professional?
>
> Bob
>
>


Do you go to rfc for professional medical information? And to the E.R.
for recipes? (If so you've got it backwards.)

gloria p

In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
> >painful...
>
> Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.

Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.

And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
drown...
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
>
> [snipped stuff about weddings]
>
> > I'd never blow $150.00 per plate.
> > That's just asinine...
> >
> > Maybe $15.00.
>
> You don't understand, Om. US$15 is what it's *worth*, US$150 is what
> you have to pay. Somebody has posted the exact formula here before.
> Take a [whatever], tack the word "wedding" in front of it, and the price
> is multiplied many times.
>
> :-)

Which is why I'd throw a potluck, and only invite people who were very
close to me. <g>

I would, of course, cook the main entree' myself and spring for the keg.
;-)

I can cook circles around some caterers anyway!

$150.00 per plate my ass! I could cook a feast for that!
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> Dan Abel wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >
> > [snipped stuff about weddings]
> >
> >> I'd never blow $150.00 per plate.
> >> That's just asinine...
> >>
> >> Maybe $15.00.
> >
> > You don't understand, Om. US$15 is what it's *worth*, US$150 is what
> > you have to pay. Somebody has posted the exact formula here before.
> > Take a [whatever], tack the word "wedding" in front of it, and the price
> > is multiplied many times.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> Paying $15/meal for any catered event is not exactly buying you much
> more than a pot luck type meal. Catered parties of ANY sort (weddings,
> fancy organizational dinners, promotion parties, anniversary or birthday
> events) cost more when the food is fancier. I often organize simple
> catered lunch events and even for a cold yet fairly plain lunch (nice
> sandwich or salad, beverage, dessert) costs $10/head delivered. So I
> figure a nicer selection of hot foods, some wine and liquor and more
> service will cost more. I think $150 is usually unnecessary yet $15 is
> unrealistic for a celebratory event.

Only if you are inviting a bunch of fellow snobs...
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

On 6/1/2010 9:28 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> Dan Abel wrote:
>>> In >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> [snipped stuff about weddings]
>>>
>>>> I'd never blow $150.00 per plate.
>>>> That's just asinine...
>>>>
>>>> Maybe $15.00.
>>>
>>> You don't understand, Om. US$15 is what it's *worth*, US$150 is what
>>> you have to pay. Somebody has posted the exact formula here before.
>>> Take a [whatever], tack the word "wedding" in front of it, and the price
>>> is multiplied many times.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>> Paying $15/meal for any catered event is not exactly buying you much
>> more than a pot luck type meal. Catered parties of ANY sort (weddings,
>> fancy organizational dinners, promotion parties, anniversary or birthday
>> events) cost more when the food is fancier. I often organize simple
>> catered lunch events and even for a cold yet fairly plain lunch (nice
>> sandwich or salad, beverage, dessert) costs $10/head delivered. So I
>> figure a nicer selection of hot foods, some wine and liquor and more
>> service will cost more. I think $150 is usually unnecessary yet $15 is
>> unrealistic for a celebratory event.
>
> Only if you are inviting a bunch of fellow snobs...


Om - I would pay whatever you asked.

From the years of your posts, I know whatever you made would be tastee.

Bob

In article >,
"gloria.p" > wrote:

> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> > Steve replied:
> >
> >>> If you didn't know the right answer, it's best not to post at all.
> >> Cripes, it's not like we are editors charged with fact-checking.
> >> This is a conversation, not a pronouncement of the Truth.
> >
> > Even when the person declaring medical misinformation purports to be a
> > medical professional?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
>
>
> Do you go to rfc for professional medical information? And to the E.R.
> for recipes? (If so you've got it backwards.)
>
> gloria p

<applause> I quit trying to do any medical advice a very long time
ago... but for what it's worth, any kind of advice taken off of usenet
is worth exactly what you PAID for it.

Same goes for the rest of the internet actually...
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
Bob Muncie > wrote:

> Om - I would pay whatever you asked.
>
> From the years of your posts, I know whatever you made would be tastee.
>
> Bob

I'd not charge guests/friends for a meal. :-) I'd keep it within my
means and not go into debt for it tho'!.

Hm, this might make a good new thread. What would you cook for a wedding
meal? I think I'd be likely to offer enough of a variety to appeal to
those with special dietary requests, and serve it buffet style.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

On 6/1/2010 10:11 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> Bob > wrote:
>
>> Om - I would pay whatever you asked.
>>
>> From the years of your posts, I know whatever you made would be tastee.
>>
>> Bob
>
> I'd not charge guests/friends for a meal. :-) I'd keep it within my
> means and not go into debt for it tho'!.
>
> Hm, this might make a good new thread. What would you cook for a wedding
> meal? I think I'd be likely to offer enough of a variety to appeal to
> those with special dietary requests, and serve it buffet style.


A wedding meal? I assume everyone has preferences. I would BBQ a bunch
of chicken as the primary food. You can't go wrong there. Can always run
out and get more :-) Chicken quarters are a love of BBQ. I would make
sure all liked it. Can do burgers, dogs, and steaks for the other folks.
No issues... good fud is good fud. :-)

And yes, I want to feed you well.

Every one has different thoughts. But not me. I know what I want to
give, and to whom.

Bob

On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:23:40 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>> >
>> >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
>> >painful...
>>
>> Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
>
>Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
>MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
>
>And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
>terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
>be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
>drown...

MRIs take only a minute or so each view position. There are short
breaks between views, and the tech is in contact the entire time.
There is no position to hold, you just lie there with your head on a
pillow like you're in bed. And the MRI shots are high speed, you're
permitted to breathe, and wiggle some. The only discomfort is with
larger folks it can be a tight fit, and it's noisy, but typically they
give you ear phones and you listen to music. Most folks tend to doze.
MRIs can be psychologically uncomfortable if one is claustrophobic but
I've never heard anyone say there's physical discomfort. MRIs are non
invasive. If you're in pain that pain has nothing to do with the MRI,
you'd experience exactly the same pain if you were home in bed. With
some procedures a dye is injected, but that has nothing to do with the
MRI, one would feel the same discomfit getting a flu shot.

In article >,
Bob Muncie > wrote:

> On 6/1/2010 10:11 PM, Omelet wrote:
> > In >,
> > Bob > wrote:
> >
> >> Om - I would pay whatever you asked.
> >>
> >> From the years of your posts, I know whatever you made would be tastee.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> > I'd not charge guests/friends for a meal. :-) I'd keep it within my
> > means and not go into debt for it tho'!.
> >
> > Hm, this might make a good new thread. What would you cook for a wedding
> > meal? I think I'd be likely to offer enough of a variety to appeal to
> > those with special dietary requests, and serve it buffet style.
>
>
> A wedding meal? I assume everyone has preferences. I would BBQ a bunch
> of chicken as the primary food. You can't go wrong there. Can always run
> out and get more :-) Chicken quarters are a love of BBQ. I would make
> sure all liked it. Can do burgers, dogs, and steaks for the other folks.
> No issues... good fud is good fud. :-)
>
> And yes, I want to feed you well.
>
> Every one has different thoughts. But not me. I know what I want to
> give, and to whom.
>
> Bob

Knowing me, I'd get the guest's input before the actual event. <g>
But I am that way...
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:23:40 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > brooklyn1 > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
> >> >painful...
> >>
> >> Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
> >
> >Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
> >MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
> >
> >And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
> >terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
> >be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
> >drown...
>
> MRIs take only a minute or so each view position.

Try up to 3 minutes.
Maybe yours were not as extensive, and the entire series can take up to
one hour. The short bursts don't change the fact that you have to hold
the initial position or screw up the entire series. Maybe yours were
simpler.

> There are short
> breaks between views, and the tech is in contact the entire time.

And you still can NOT move the shoulders, neck or knee.

> There is no position to hold, you just lie there with your head on a
> pillow like you're in bed. And the MRI shots are high speed, you're
> permitted to breathe, and wiggle some.

Not. Wiggling added to the time! And not being allowed to move from the
index position HURT.

>The only discomfort is with
> larger folks it can be a tight fit, and it's noisy, but typically they
> give you ear phones and you listen to music. Most folks tend to doze.
> MRIs can be psychologically uncomfortable if one is claustrophobic but
> I've never heard anyone say there's physical discomfort. MRIs are non
> invasive. If you're in pain that pain has nothing to do with the MRI,
> you'd experience exactly the same pain if you were home in bed. With
> some procedures a dye is injected, but that has nothing to do with the
> MRI, one would feel the same discomfit getting a flu shot.

Try an extended one, then see...
The Cervical and two shoulder MRI's took a good 45 minutes.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine

On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:42:57 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:23:40 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> > brooklyn1 > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Omelet wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
>> >> >painful...
>> >>
>> >> Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
>> >
>> >Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
>> >MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
>> >
>> >And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
>> >terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
>> >be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
>> >drown...
>>
>> MRIs take only a minute or so each view position.
>
>Try up to 3 minutes.
>Maybe yours were not as extensive, and the entire series can take up to
>one hour. The short bursts don't change the fact that you have to hold
>the initial position or screw up the entire series. Maybe yours were
>simpler.
>
>> There are short
>> breaks between views, and the tech is in contact the entire time.
>
>And you still can NOT move the shoulders, neck or knee.
>
>> There is no position to hold, you just lie there with your head on a
>> pillow like you're in bed. And the MRI shots are high speed, you're
>> permitted to breathe, and wiggle some.
>
>Not. Wiggling added to the time! And not being allowed to move from the
>index position HURT.
>
>>The only discomfort is with
>> larger folks it can be a tight fit, and it's noisy, but typically they
>> give you ear phones and you listen to music. Most folks tend to doze.
>> MRIs can be psychologically uncomfortable if one is claustrophobic but
>> I've never heard anyone say there's physical discomfort. MRIs are non
>> invasive. If you're in pain that pain has nothing to do with the MRI,
>> you'd experience exactly the same pain if you were home in bed. With
>> some procedures a dye is injected, but that has nothing to do with the
>> MRI, one would feel the same discomfit getting a flu shot.
>
>Try an extended one, then see...
>The Cervical and two shoulder MRI's took a good 45 minutes.

A dentist visit is uncomfortable, not an MRI.

Omelet wrote:
>
> In article >,
> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
> > >
> > >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
> > >painful...
> >
> > Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
>
> Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
> MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
>
> And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
> terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
> be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
> drown...


Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "gloria.p" > wrote:
>>
>> I don't care if you are a concert musician or a nuclear physicist,
>> a tattoo is ugly and self-mutilation.
>>
> I dunno. I have no regrets over my tattoo'd eye liner. :-)
> Granted, that is the ONLY tattoo I have...

I have never regretted the tats I got in the 80s. I'm sort of a flashy
person anyway, and love shiny, sparkly clothes, hair color or doo that
stands out as different, and my nails and toes are always done in some sort
of design. I don't care if anyone thinks it's due to low self esteem; it
fits my personality. I'm even planning to treat myself to another tat by at
least my 50th birthday. I have a drawing my son did for me when he was a
teen of a dragon when I asked him to design me a tat. I'm going to get
that.

Arri London wrote:
>
> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>>
>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>> Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
>>>> painful...
>>> Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
>> Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
>> MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
>>
>> And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
>> terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
>> be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
>> drown...
>
>
> Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
> the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
> even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
> completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
> horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
> headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
> painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
Sounds like an old machine
I had a "spiral" mri last week that took mere minutes and was quite
mind the machine was weeks old and cost millions represented by the
$300 fee (ouch)

On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:32:27 -0600, "gloria.p" >
wrote:

<snip>

>The festivities lasted 4-5 days as guests arrived from all over. We
>took advantage of the location and left the day after for an 8 day
>Norwegian Hurtigruten, a fjord cruise on a coastal freighter from Bergen
>in the south to the Russian border.

We took a car ferry from Copenhagen to Oslo, which was almost a
vacation in itself. In fact, many of our fellow passengers were coming
back from Oslo on the return trip, just making the trip for the
entertainment and food on board. We then drove from Oslo to Bergen and
back, which was quite an experience. The scenery was breathtaking.
There were many places en route to Bergen where the road wasn't wide
enough for 2 vehicles, so unlike our old Colorado mountain rules, it
was the bigger vehicle, not the uphill vehicle, that backs up!

OB: Each place we stayed had a breakfast smorgasbord. I think I
eventually ate my weight in smoked salmon!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as warm as the wine,
if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:18:33 -0600, Arri London >
wrote:
>
>Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
>the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
>even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
>completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
>horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
>headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
>painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.

I'm puzzled.... I get a PET scan ( to track cancer treatments )
about every 4 months.
It's not an MRI, but a CAT scan that they use.
They shoot you with a radioactive dye, wait half-an-hour,
then "run you through the donut".( it looks like a big donut on edge )

What's uncomfortable is lying perfectly still, arms over head, for the
half-hour while you're moved through.
( I think PizzaHut bakes their pizza this way )

Another miracle of modern medicine;
No more negatives to slap on the light board.
They send a DVD of the scan to my Oncologist.
Plug it in, and move, magnify, rotate, any part of the scan.
Cancer colonys show up as bright "sprinkles"
WOW !

On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:18:33 -0600, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>Omelet wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>>
>> > Omelet wrote:
>> > >
>> > >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
>> > >painful...
>> >
>> > Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
>>
>> Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
>> MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
>>
>> And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
>> terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
>> be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
>> drown...
>
>
>Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
>the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
>even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
>completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
>horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
>headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
>painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.

Makes one wonder if you sleep in a bed or pace the floors all night.

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:29:46 -0400, "Cheryl" >
wrote:

>"Omelet" > wrote in message
>news
>> In article >,
>> "gloria.p" > wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't care if you are a concert musician or a nuclear physicist,
>>> a tattoo is ugly and self-mutilation.
>>>
>> I dunno. I have no regrets over my tattoo'd eye liner. :-)
>> Granted, that is the ONLY tattoo I have...
>
>I have never regretted the tats I got in the 80s. I'm sort of a flashy
>person anyway, and love shiny, sparkly clothes, hair color or doo that
>stands out as different, and my nails and toes are always done in some sort
>of design. I don't care if anyone thinks it's due to low self esteem; it
>fits my personality. I'm even planning to treat myself to another tat by at
>least my 50th birthday. I have a drawing my son did for me when he was a
>teen of a dragon when I asked him to design me a tat. I'm going to get
>that.

The body adornments that irk me are nipple piercing... yuck... why
don't yoose imbeciles poke a needle in your eyeball.

atec7, 7, > wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
> >
> > Omelet wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> brooklyn1 > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Omelet wrote:
> >>>> Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
> >>>> painful...
> >>> Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
> >> Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
> >> MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
> >>
> >> And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
> >> terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
> >> be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
> >> drown...
> >
> >
> > Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
> > the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
> > even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
> > completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
> > horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
> > headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
> > painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.


> Sounds like an old machine

If something bought and installed in Dec 2009 is old, then you are
correct.

> I had a "spiral" mri last week that took mere minutes and was quite
> mind the machine was weeks old and cost millions represented by the
> $300 fee (ouch)

The fee for this MRI is about USD 2000. The method used and the
resolution required determine the time the scan takes.

The older machine (from 2007 or 2008) was much noisier certainly. Any
MRI costs at least USD 1 million, plus the cost of the suite and the
technician(s).

The CTs take about 10 minutes plus a few more minutes after the contrast
medium has gone in.

"" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:18:33 -0600, Arri London >
> wrote:
> >
> >Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
> >the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
> >even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
> >completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
> >horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
> >headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
> >painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
>
> I'm puzzled.... I get a PET scan ( to track cancer treatments )
> about every 4 months.
> It's not an MRI, but a CAT scan that they use.

CTs can take less time than MRIs.

> They shoot you with a radioactive dye, wait half-an-hour,
> then "run you through the donut".( it looks like a big donut on edge )
>
> What's uncomfortable is lying perfectly still, arms over head, for the
> half-hour while you're moved through.
> ( I think PizzaHut bakes their pizza this way )

You could be right about the pizza
TMU has had a couple of PET scans and is in agony by the time they are
finished. She doesn't have much shoulder flexibility in the first place.
Holding an ordinarily painful position that long is hard for her.
>
> Another miracle of modern medicine;
> No more negatives to slap on the light board.
> They send a DVD of the scan to my Oncologist.
> Plug it in, and move, magnify, rotate, any part of the scan.
> Cancer colonys show up as bright "sprinkles"
> WOW !

LOL! I've got printouts of my MRIs (before and after) but none of the
CTs. Don't think the hospital even uses DVDs. The results go into the
appropriate physician files directly.

Hope you are still 'clean'. Good Luck!

Arri London wrote:
>
> atec7, 7, > wrote:
>> Arri London wrote:
>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>>> Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
>>>>>> painful...
>>>>> Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
>>>> Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
>>>> MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
>>>>
>>>> And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
>>>> terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
>>>> be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
>>>> drown...
>>>
>>> Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
>>> the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
>>> even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
>>> completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
>>> horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
>>> headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
>>> painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
>
>
>> Sounds like an old machine
>
> If something bought and installed in Dec 2009 is old, then you are
> correct.
it might be 4 or 5 years old knowing how loathe these companies are to
throw anything out
>
>> I had a "spiral" mri last week that took mere minutes and was quite
>> mind the machine was weeks old and cost millions represented by the
>> $300 fee (ouch)
>
> The fee for this MRI is about USD 2000. The method used and the
> resolution required determine the time the scan takes.

The 300$ is my contribution and being in AU the government pays the

rest but how much I have no idea
>
> The older machine (from 2007 or 2008) was much noisier certainly. Any
> MRI costs at least USD 1 million, plus the cost of the suite and the
> technician(s).
>
> The CTs take about 10 minutes plus a few more minutes after the contrast
> medium has gone in.

In article >,
"Cheryl" > wrote:
> I have never regretted the tats I got in the 80s. I'm sort of a flashy
> person anyway, and love shiny, sparkly clothes, hair color or doo that
> stands out as different, and my nails and toes are always done in some sort
> of design. I don't care if anyone thinks it's due to low self esteem; it
> fits my personality. I'm even planning to treat myself to another tat by at
> least my 50th birthday. I have a drawing my son did for me when he was a
> teen of a dragon when I asked him to design me a tat. I'm going to get
> that.

Good for you, Cheryl! If you like it, that's really all that matters.
Rob is pretty buttoned up, always thinking of what "people" might think.
I like to remind him of something his dad used to say, "You would worry
less about what other people think of you if you realized how little
they do."

OB Food: Watermelon pickles are out of the boiling water bath. Canning
season has begun.


Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:04:44 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >,
> "Cheryl" > wrote:
>> I have never regretted the tats I got in the 80s. I'm sort of a flashy
>> person anyway, and love shiny, sparkly clothes, hair color or doo that
>> stands out as different, and my nails and toes are always done in some sort
>> of design. I don't care if anyone thinks it's due to low self esteem; it
>> fits my personality. I'm even planning to treat myself to another tat by at
>> least my 50th birthday. I have a drawing my son did for me when he was a
>> teen of a dragon when I asked him to design me a tat. I'm going to get
>> that.
>
> Good for you, Cheryl! If you like it, that's really all that matters.
> Rob is pretty buttoned up, always thinking of what "people" might think.
> I like to remind him of something his dad used to say, "You would worry
> less about what other people think of you if you realized how little
> they do."

too true. the sad fact of the matter is that most people aren't paying the
slightest bit of attention to what you do.

your pal,
blake

blake wrote on Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:53:15 -0400:

>> In article >,
>> "Cheryl" > wrote:
>>> I have never regretted the tats I got in the 80s. I'm sort
>>> of a flashy person anyway, and love shiny, sparkly clothes,
>>> hair color or doo that stands out as different, and my nails
>>> and toes are always done in some sort of design. I don't
>>> care if anyone thinks it's due to low self esteem; it fits
>>> my personality. I'm even planning to treat myself to
>>> another tat by at least my 50th birthday. I have a drawing
>>> my son did for me when he was a teen of a dragon when I
>>> asked him to design me a tat. I'm going to get that.
>>
>> Good for you, Cheryl! If you like it, that's really all that
>> matters. Rob is pretty buttoned up, always thinking of what
>> "people" might think. I like to remind him of something his
>> dad used to say, "You would worry less about what other
>> people think of you if you realized how little they do."

> too true. the sad fact of the matter is that most people
> aren't paying the slightest bit of attention to what you do.

I agree with the definition in the French 1789 Rights of Man: "Liberty
consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else;
hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits
except those which assure to the other members of the society the
enjoyment of the same rights." So go ahead with your tattoos but nothing
in the Rights of Man forces me to have social or business dealings with
you.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> >And you still can NOT move the shoulders, neck or knee.
> >
> >> There is no position to hold, you just lie there with your head on a
> >> pillow like you're in bed. And the MRI shots are high speed, you're
> >> permitted to breathe, and wiggle some.
> >
> >Not. Wiggling added to the time! And not being allowed to move from the
> >index position HURT.
> >
> >>The only discomfort is with
> >> larger folks it can be a tight fit, and it's noisy, but typically they
> >> give you ear phones and you listen to music. Most folks tend to doze.
> >> MRIs can be psychologically uncomfortable if one is claustrophobic but
> >> I've never heard anyone say there's physical discomfort. MRIs are non
> >> invasive. If you're in pain that pain has nothing to do with the MRI,
> >> you'd experience exactly the same pain if you were home in bed. With
> >> some procedures a dye is injected, but that has nothing to do with the
> >> MRI, one would feel the same discomfit getting a flu shot.
> >
> >Try an extended one, then see...
> >The Cervical and two shoulder MRI's took a good 45 minutes.
>
> A dentist visit is uncomfortable, not an MRI.

Are you trying to tell ME that my pain and discomfort was imaginary?

I think you know where you can stuff THAT idea Shel'!
You don't have my issues so you have no way in hell of knowing how much
I hurt!

I could barely hold still for the knee MRI my damned leg hurt so bad!
If I'd moved, the tech told me it'd screw up their index and they would
have had to start over.

They did have to re-take a few of the shoulder ones as it hurt so bad, I
HAD to move.

And I felt like I was going to drown not being able to swallow my saliva
laying on my back for the 3 minute intervals that they told me to not
swallow during the neck MRI...

It was f-ing miserable.
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In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > In article >,
> > brooklyn1 > wrote:
> >
> > > Omelet wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
> > > >painful...
> > >
> > > Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
> >
> > Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
> > MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
> >
> > And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
> > terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
> > be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
> > drown...
>
>
> Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
> the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
> even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
> completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
> horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
> headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
> painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.

Claustrophobia is a mild issue with me. <g> I just kept my eyes closed.
And the noise is rather ugly. They did not provide me with head
phones. Just ear plugs.
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Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
"Cheryl" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "gloria.p" > wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't care if you are a concert musician or a nuclear physicist,
> >> a tattoo is ugly and self-mutilation.
> >>
> > I dunno. I have no regrets over my tattoo'd eye liner. :-)
> > Granted, that is the ONLY tattoo I have...
>
> I have never regretted the tats I got in the 80s. I'm sort of a flashy
> person anyway, and love shiny, sparkly clothes, hair color or doo that
> stands out as different, and my nails and toes are always done in some sort
> of design. I don't care if anyone thinks it's due to low self esteem; it
> fits my personality. I'm even planning to treat myself to another tat by at
> least my 50th birthday. I have a drawing my son did for me when he was a
> teen of a dragon when I asked him to design me a tat. I'm going to get
> that.

Where? :-)

I'm personally not in to body art, but I have no issues with those that
like to decorate themselves that way... <G>

I do have to draw the line at branding however. Brands are just plain
ugly.
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In article >,
atec7 7 <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote:

> Arri London wrote:
> >
> > Omelet wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> brooklyn1 > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Omelet wrote:
> >>>> Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
> >>>> painful...
> >>> Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
> >> Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
> >> MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
> >>
> >> And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
> >> terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
> >> be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
> >> drown...
> >
> >
> > Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
> > the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
> > even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
> > completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
> > horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
> > headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
> > painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
> Sounds like an old machine
> I had a "spiral" mri last week that took mere minutes and was quite
> mind the machine was weeks old and cost millions represented by the
> $300 fee (ouch)

That's cheap. The shoulder MRI's I had together, the charge was 6K.
Fortunately insurance covered nearly all of it. I'd already paid my
deductible for the year using the PT benefits.
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,

>>> painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
>> Sounds like an old machine
>> I had a "spiral" mri last week that took mere minutes and was quite
>> mind the machine was weeks old and cost millions represented by the
>> $300 fee (ouch)
>
> That's cheap. The shoulder MRI's I had together, the charge was 6K.
> Fortunately insurance covered nearly all of it. I'd already paid my
> deductible for the year using the PT benefits.
As I mentioned elsewhere the 300 was my contribution
the rest paid by the govco medical fund
I cast see how they cost so much when you examine the life of such
things it should be more like twenty bucks and a thankyou

In article >,
atec7 7 <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
>
> >>> painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
> >> Sounds like an old machine
> >> I had a "spiral" mri last week that took mere minutes and was quite
> >> mind the machine was weeks old and cost millions represented by the
> >> $300 fee (ouch)
> >
> > That's cheap. The shoulder MRI's I had together, the charge was 6K.
> > Fortunately insurance covered nearly all of it. I'd already paid my
> > deductible for the year using the PT benefits.
> As I mentioned elsewhere the 300 was my contribution
> the rest paid by the govco medical fund
> I cast see how they cost so much when you examine the life of such
> things it should be more like twenty bucks and a thankyou

One could only wish... <g>
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