On 6/5/2010 12:10 AM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> news
>>> In >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't care if you are a concert musician or a nuclear physicist,
>>>> a tattoo is ugly and self-mutilation.
>>>>
>>> I dunno. I have no regrets over my tattoo'd eye liner. :-)
>>> Granted, that is the ONLY tattoo I have...
>>
>> I have never regretted the tats I got in the 80s. I'm sort of a flashy
>> person anyway, and love shiny, sparkly clothes, hair color or doo that
>> stands out as different, and my nails and toes are always done in some sort
>> of design. I don't care if anyone thinks it's due to low self esteem; it
>> fits my personality. I'm even planning to treat myself to another tat by at
>> least my 50th birthday. I have a drawing my son did for me when he was a
>> teen of a dragon when I asked him to design me a tat. I'm going to get
>> that.
>
> Where? :-)
>
> I'm personally not in to body art, but I have no issues with those that
> like to decorate themselves that way...<G>
>
> I do have to draw the line at branding however. Brands are just plain
> ugly.

Zsa Zsa Gabor was on a game show once and was asked what she would like
most to have to read if she were marooned on a desert island. Her answer
was: "A tattooed sailor man." Tattoos sometimes come in handy. <G>

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> On 6/5/2010 12:10 AM, Omelet wrote:
> > In >,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> > wrote in message
> >> news > >>> In >,
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't care if you are a concert musician or a nuclear physicist,
> >>>> a tattoo is ugly and self-mutilation.
> >>>>
> >>> I dunno. I have no regrets over my tattoo'd eye liner. :-)
> >>> Granted, that is the ONLY tattoo I have...
> >>
> >> I have never regretted the tats I got in the 80s. I'm sort of a flashy
> >> person anyway, and love shiny, sparkly clothes, hair color or doo that
> >> stands out as different, and my nails and toes are always done in some
> >> sort
> >> of design. I don't care if anyone thinks it's due to low self esteem; it
> >> fits my personality. I'm even planning to treat myself to another tat by
> >> at
> >> least my 50th birthday. I have a drawing my son did for me when he was a
> >> teen of a dragon when I asked him to design me a tat. I'm going to get
> >> that.
> >
> > Where? :-)
> >
> > I'm personally not in to body art, but I have no issues with those that
> > like to decorate themselves that way...<G>
> >
> > I do have to draw the line at branding however. Brands are just plain
> > ugly.
>
> Zsa Zsa Gabor was on a game show once and was asked what she would like
> most to have to read if she were marooned on a desert island. Her answer
> was: "A tattooed sailor man." Tattoos sometimes come in handy. <G>

<lol> She was a very funny lady!
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 04:25:55 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> atec7 7 <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>> > In article >,
>>
>> >>> painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
>> >> Sounds like an old machine
>> >> I had a "spiral" mri last week that took mere minutes and was quite
>> >> mind the machine was weeks old and cost millions represented by the
>> >> $300 fee (ouch)
>> >
>> > That's cheap. The shoulder MRI's I had together, the charge was 6K.
>> > Fortunately insurance covered nearly all of it. I'd already paid my
>> > deductible for the year using the PT benefits.
>> As I mentioned elsewhere the 300 was my contribution
>> the rest paid by the govco medical fund
>> I cast see how they cost so much when you examine the life of such
>> things it should be more like twenty bucks and a thankyou
>
>One could only wish... <g>

Modern medical diagnostic equipment is expensive to buy, install, and
maintain, very costly to maintain, especially the down time... unless
these machines are used 24/7 they hardly pay for themselves before
going obsolete.... and one must consider that the entire room/space is
a necessary part of the equipment... it's not just a room, the entire
space is shielded.

brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> Modern medical diagnostic equipment is expensive to buy, install, and
> maintain, very costly to maintain, especially the down time..

There is a lot of money made in manufacturing, selling and repairing
medical diagnostics equipment. My SiL's brother makes a damned good
living at it.


>. unless
> these machines are used 24/7 they hardly pay for themselves before
> going obsolete.... and one must consider that the entire room/space is
> a necessary part of the equipment... it's not just a room, the entire
> space is shielded.


Obsolete????? They no longer do what they were supposed to do? If that
is the case, they probably never did it right to begin with. OTOH, they
could be obsolete because there is a newer and more expensive machine
that does the same job.

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> > Modern medical diagnostic equipment is expensive to buy, install, and
> > maintain, very costly to maintain, especially the down time..
>
> There is a lot of money made in manufacturing, selling and repairing
> medical diagnostics equipment. My SiL's brother makes a damned good
> living at it.
>
>
> >. unless
> > these machines are used 24/7 they hardly pay for themselves before
> > going obsolete.... and one must consider that the entire room/space is
> > a necessary part of the equipment... it's not just a room, the entire
> > space is shielded.
>
>
> Obsolete????? They no longer do what they were supposed to do? If that
> is the case, they probably never did it right to begin with. OTOH, they
> could be obsolete because there is a newer and more expensive machine
> that does the same job.

<applause>!!!

Sometimes upgrades are over-rated and just a way for the selling company
to make yet another killing...

I feel that way about Windows 7.0. It f-ing SUCKS!!!
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atec7, 7, > wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
> >
> > atec7, 7, > wrote:
> >> Arri London wrote:
>
<snip>

> >> Sounds like an old machine
> >
> > If something bought and installed in Dec 2009 is old, then you are
> > correct.
> it might be 4 or 5 years old knowing how loathe these companies are to
> throw anything out


Doesn't happen! This is a university hospital. Their research money is
based on having up-to-date equipment, which must be listed in the grants
and verified. BTDT

> >
> >> I had a "spiral" mri last week that took mere minutes and was quite
> >> mind the machine was weeks old and cost millions represented by the
> >> $300 fee (ouch)
> >
> > The fee for this MRI is about USD 2000. The method used and the
> > resolution required determine the time the scan takes.
>
> The 300$ is my contribution and being in AU the government pays the
>
> rest but how much I have no idea

Ah. My contribution was less than that; the insurance picks up the rest.
> >
> > The older machine (from 2007 or 2008) was much noisier certainly. Any
> > MRI costs at least USD 1 million, plus the cost of the suite and the
> > technician(s).
> >
> > The CTs take about 10 minutes plus a few more minutes after the contrast
> > medium has gone in.

Omelet wrote:
>
> In article >, Arri London >
> wrote:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
> > >
> > > In article >,
> > > brooklyn1 > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Omelet wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
> > > > >painful...
> > > >
> > > > Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
> > >
> > > Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
> > > MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
> > >
> > > And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
> > > terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
> > > be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
> > > drown...
> >
> >
> > Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
> > the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
> > even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
> > completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
> > horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
> > headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
> > painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
>
> Claustrophobia is a mild issue with me. <g> I just kept my eyes closed.
> And the noise is rather ugly. They did not provide me with head
> phones. Just ear plugs.
> --


Would prefer ear plugs but the techs need to tell me things during the
scans

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:19:44 -0600, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>Omelet wrote:
>>
>> In article >, Arri London >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Omelet wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In article >,
>> > > brooklyn1 > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Omelet wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
>> > > > >painful...
>> > > >
>> > > > Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
>> > >
>> > > Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
>> > > MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
>> > >
>> > > And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
>> > > terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
>> > > be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
>> > > drown...
>> >
>> >
>> > Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
>> > the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
>> > even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
>> > completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
>> > horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
>> > headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
>> > painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
>>
>> Claustrophobia is a mild issue with me. <g> I just kept my eyes closed.
>> And the noise is rather ugly. They did not provide me with head
>> phones. Just ear plugs.
>> --
>
>
>Would prefer ear plugs but the techs need to tell me things during the
>scans


What a couple a twitchy ****s... them things ain't nearly so noisy as
taking a curve on the BMT. LOL

In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > In article >, Arri London >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Omelet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article >,
> > > > brooklyn1 > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Omelet wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Man, I wish I could have been sedated! 3 of the 4 MRI's were very
> > > > > >painful...
> > > > >
> > > > > Huh... how is an MRI painful, it's no more painful than an x-ray.
> > > >
> > > > Having to hold perfectly still in a position that makes the area being
> > > > MRI'd HURT, makes it painful.
> > > >
> > > > And not being allowed to swallow during the cervical MRI was not
> > > > terribly comfortable either. One does not realize how much saliva can
> > > > be produced in a short period of time. You feel like you are going to
> > > > drown...
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed! The MRIs I get take at least 30 minutes plus another 20 after
> > > the contrast medium is injected. The relevant body area is in a cage and
> > > even breathing the 'wrong' way can ruin the images. Plus just lying
> > > completely flat for that long makes me *really* dizzy. The noise is
> > > horrendous, even with the supernew MRI I got to use this last time. The
> > > headphones are useless, as the music needs to be cranked up so loud it's
> > > painful in and of itself LOL. Thankfully claustrophobia isn't an issue.
> >
> > Claustrophobia is a mild issue with me. <g> I just kept my eyes closed.
> > And the noise is rather ugly. They did not provide me with head
> > phones. Just ear plugs.
> > --
>
>
> Would prefer ear plugs but the techs need to tell me things during the
> scans

I can hear them just fine with ear plugs. It dulls the noise to a
tolerable level.
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On 6/5/2010 8:02 AM, George Shirley wrote:
> On 6/5/2010 12:10 AM, Omelet wrote:
>> In >,
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> In >,
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't care if you are a concert musician or a nuclear physicist,
>>>>> a tattoo is ugly and self-mutilation.
>>>>>
>>>> I dunno. I have no regrets over my tattoo'd eye liner. :-)
>>>> Granted, that is the ONLY tattoo I have...
>>>
>>> I have never regretted the tats I got in the 80s. I'm sort of a flashy
>>> person anyway, and love shiny, sparkly clothes, hair color or doo that
>>> stands out as different, and my nails and toes are always done in
>>> some sort
>>> of design. I don't care if anyone thinks it's due to low self esteem; it
>>> fits my personality. I'm even planning to treat myself to another tat
>>> by at
>>> least my 50th birthday. I have a drawing my son did for me when he was a
>>> teen of a dragon when I asked him to design me a tat. I'm going to get
>>> that.
>>
>> Where? :-)
>>
>> I'm personally not in to body art, but I have no issues with those that
>> like to decorate themselves that way...<G>
>>
>> I do have to draw the line at branding however. Brands are just plain
>> ugly.
>
> Zsa Zsa Gabor was on a game show once and was asked what she would like
> most to have to read if she were marooned on a desert island. Her answer
> was: "A tattooed sailor man." Tattoos sometimes come in handy. <G>

Zsa Zsa was fun. Whatever happened to women who could let it be known
that they were lusty wenches without being vulgar about it?

In article >,
"J. Clarke" > wrote:


> Zsa Zsa was fun. Whatever happened to women who could let it be known
> that they were lusty wenches without being vulgar about it?

We've got a few on this group. Since they aren't vulgar about it, they
don't tend to stick out.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "J. Clarke" > wrote:
>
>
>> Zsa Zsa was fun. Whatever happened to women who could let it be known
>> that they were lusty wenches without being vulgar about it?
>
> We've got a few on this group. Since they aren't vulgar about it, they
> don't tend to stick out.

We do try to keep a low profile.

Felice

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> "J. Clarke" > wrote:
>
>
> > Zsa Zsa was fun. Whatever happened to women who could let it be known
> > that they were lusty wenches without being vulgar about it?
>
> We've got a few on this group. Since they aren't vulgar about it, they
> don't tend to stick out.

I resemble that remark... <g>
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Omelet wrote:
> In article
> >,
> Dan Abel > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "J. Clarke" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Zsa Zsa was fun. Whatever happened to women who could let it be known
>>> that they were lusty wenches without being vulgar about it?
>> We've got a few on this group. Since they aren't vulgar about it, they
>> don't tend to stick out.
>
> I resemble that remark... <g>

lol, noooooo you don't.