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On May 19, 10:46*am, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> On Wed, 19 May 2010 07:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
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> >On May 18, 4:08*pm, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >On May 16, 5:24*pm, brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 16 May 2010 17:02:29 +0100, Janet Baraclough
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >The message >
> >> >> >from brooklyn1 > contains these words:

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> >> >> >> On Sun, 16 May 2010 02:41:49 -0400, "Paco" > wrote:

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> >> >> >> >Building codes do not automatically equate to building permits. *If
> >> >> >> >work is
> >> >> >> >done by a licensed contractor (plumber, electrician, etc.), at the very
> >> >> >> >minimum, national codes must be adhered to. *State, municipal codes would
> >> >> >> >take precedence over national. *If a homeowner does the work, well
> >> >> >> >they are
> >> >> >> >on their own.

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> >> >> >> This is true. *When a homeowner or other unlicenced person does an
> >> >> >> electrical renovation and later the house burns down due to an
> >> >> >> electrical fire homeowners insurance very likely won't pay...

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> >> >> > *In the UK, if you want to sell your property, potential buyers will
> >> >> >demand to see proof that any
> >> >> > major work you did, complies with building and safety codes. If *you
> >> >> >can't produce the evidence, then
> >> >> >mortgage lenders and cash buyers alike, *may *devalue the price
> >> >> >accordingly, and a new insurer may refuse cover.

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> >> >> > * *Janet.

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> >> >> The same in the US, it's called a Full Disclosure Statement, the deed
> >> >> can't transfer without it. *The seller also needs to present a
> >> >> Certificate of Occupancy, essentially states the premises is habitable
> >> >> and complies with all permits. *Those who say they can do whatever
> >> >> they want haven't a clue or are lying.-

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> >> >No CO is required in Michigan, except at initial construction. *I've
> >> >bought and sold houses here three times, and never saw a CO.
> >> >Each time was a conforming mortgage.

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> >> >Cindy Hamilton

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> >> Like many people your mind was blank during closing... all you did is
> >> sign wherever the attorney pointed. *With new construction typically
> >> the builder or his agent secures the CO. *With resales typically the
> >> seller or his agent (realtor/attorney) secures the CO. *A copy of the
> >> CO should be with your closing papers, like many people you probably
> >> never looked at them. *In some states the CO is called something else
> >> but it's still essentially a CO.

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> >> Obviously you are misinformed:http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dl...o_275160_7.pdf

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> >The page you pointed me to doesn't say squat about a CO at the
> >time a house is resold; only when it is built or altered.
> >My house was built in 1948; I doubt it EVER had a CO.
> >We've done a couple of permitted projects (new heating/air,
> >new water/sewer), and no CO was issued at the end of those,
> >either.

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> >Learn to read, numbnuts.

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> >Cindy Hamilton

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> You said: "No CO is required in Michigan, except at initial
> construction."
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> Well that's simply not true... you are who can't read.
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> *A *new building OR a building that is altered shall not be used OR
> occupied until a Certificate of Occupancy is issued by the
> code official.*
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> Obviously a CO exists in MI. *And any normal person would
> comprehend that it needs to be presented each time the property is
> transfered, not necessarilly that a new (updated) one be issued, not
> if nothing was altered. *That you don't remember a CO at closing
> doesn't mean there wasn't one, just means you are unaware. *In many
> instances the CO is held by the town clerk, the realtor/attorneys
> would typically request a copy rather than burdon the dumb home owner.
>
> You obviously got caught in a lie, so like a spoiled child you resort
> to name calling.


I have every piece of paper presented to me at every closing I've
ever attended. Not one damned CO in the bunch.

Blow it out your ass, Sheldon.
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