Janet Baraclough wrote:

>The message
>
>from maxine in ri > contains these words:
>
>> On Jun 2, 5:45*pm, Janet Baraclough >
>> wrote:
>> > The message >
>> > from brooklyn1 > contains these words:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:52:54 +0100, Janet Baraclough
>> > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 09:11:48 -0700 (PDT), maxine in ri
>> > > >> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> >> Without any intention to be sarcastic, what does
>> > > >> >> "handfasted" mean?
>> >
>> > > >> >Pagan term for uniting a couple. *The priestess who facilitated the
>> > > >> >event is registered with the State to perform legal unions.
>> >
>> > > > * Does her registration *that mean that your handfasting *carries the
>> > > >same legal standing as marriage?
>> > > > * (I mean, in the eyes of the law, not the partners).
>> > > In the present context "union" is synonymous with "marraige". *She
>> > > clearly says that the "preistess* is registered with the State to
>> > > perform *legal* unions... that makes her just as *legally qualified as
>> > > anyone else who performs legal marraige ceremonies...
>> >
>> > * * I'm asking, because *when talking to a handfasted pagan I know, she
>> > told me that she could *terminate her
>> > union at any time just by announcing it was over. IOW *her handfasting
>> > obviously did not have the same legal standing as
>> > a civil marriage which requires another legal procedure called divorce,
>> > to end it. AFAIK, handfasting here does not have equal legal status
>> > *with marriage or civil partnership *(regarding *tax, property,
>> > inheritance etc).
>> >
>> > * * *Janet
>
>> The religious ceremony that anyone goes through is not a legal
>> marriage unless they have a license from the state or other civil
>> entity. Unless you live together as spouses for [7-10] years
>> (depending on the local laws), then you are considered married under
>> "common law."
>
> "commonlaw" marriage is no longer legally recognised here (UK) .
>Otherwise, same as you, whatever the ceremony consists of, the union is
>not legally binding unless
>it was licensed and correctly registered.

Commonlaw marriage is not so common in the US either, only a handful
of states recognize commonlaw marriage and it must have been validated
prior to a certain date (grandfathered in so to speak), in effect no
one can enter into a commonlaw marriage in the US anymore.

http://marriage.about.com/cs/commonlaw/ht/commonlaw.htm

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:48:30 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>>
>> In the present context "union" is synonymous with "marraige". She
>> clearly says that the "preistess* is registered with the State to
>> perform *legal* unions... that makes her just as legally qualified as
>> anyone else who performs legal marraige ceremonies... as legal as a
>> priest, a rabbi, the capt of a ship, a judge, even the pope... well,
>> I'd be wary of the pope or any cathelic priest, WTF do they know from
>> marriage???
>
>LOL! They don't have to know diddly--all they have to have are the
>proper credentials. A lay person acquiring the proper credentials to do
>a ceremony is not especially common, to be sure, but it is not unheard
>of. Frankly, I'd rather see a couple married in a park, barn, or
>wherever by someone who knows them well than take up the time of a
>clergy person they chose because they like the church building and have
>no plans to darken its doors again -- until they've got a kid they want
>baptized.

Nowadays many cathelic churches won't do baptisms unless the parents
are practicing cathelics and are active members of that particular
church. Just last month a friend's cathelic church wouldn't permit
the person they chose for Godmother because she was a Baptist who
belonged to a church a three minute walk away... this is their SIL....
was she ****ed, she didn't attend the baptism. I don't blame her.

When I was married I found a Justice of the Peace who performed a very
short and sweet Native American/Mother Nature type ceremony, at the
same location as the reception; The Watermill, Lung Guyland. We had
only 25 guests so rented the next to the smallest room, had a dance
floor and we had a DJ, a husband and wife team, she emceed and sang...
in those days cost a mere $200. We had a full service dinner from
appetizer to dessert, a gorgeous wedding cake w/Champagne, and open
bar. With flowers cost just under a grand. Of course this was many
years ago, I'm sure the price would be more than quadruple now. Our
guests said it was far nicer than any of the mega bucks weddings
they've been. A friend videoed it, I still have the cassete tape but
no longer have a machine to play it... maybe one day I'll have it
placed on CD.

At that time it was also a restaurant, superb food... looks like it's
been remodeled and no longer a restaurant. Check out their wedding
menu, I remember it was very difficult to choose:
http://www.watermillcaterers.com/

On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:36:19 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:

> If the person performing a
> marraige ritual is ordained by the government

the government is ordaining people now?

blake

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:01:57 -0700 (PDT), maxine in ri wrote:

> On Jun 3, 1:20*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 09:08:00 -0700 (PDT), maxine in ri wrote:
>>> On Jun 2, 12:22*am, sf > wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:50:00 -0600, "gloria.p" >
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Seriously, the news makes me very sad.
>>
>>>> Me too. *If it's a spat that can't be put into some sort of long term
>>>> perspective after 40 years of marriage, where's the hope for the rest
>>>> of us?
>>
>>> Outside of the newspapers, there's plenty of hope. *Half of all
>>> marriages do not end. *You only hear about the ones that do.
>>
>>> maxine in ri
>>> 19 years, 51 weeks
>>
>> congratulations on your twentieth if you manage to hold out another week.
>>
>> your pal
>> blake
>
> Thank you (I think)
>
> maxine

you can do it standing on your head. i have faith in you.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
PL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-BDEB8A.20043303062010
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
>
> >
> > I know a couple that got married for insurance reasons... A legally
> > married "spouse" got her prenatal and childbirth costs on the husbands
> > insurance. She would not have qualified for benefits if they had not
> > been legally married.
> >
> > Having kids can be rather high in medical costs if the "common law" wife
> > is not employed.
>
>
> Over here, if you've been in a relationship for X amount of time (3 years
> IIRC) you are deemed to be a 'married' couple and each person in that
> relationship has the same rights as a couple who got the piece of paper to
> say they are married.

Unfortunately, company "Benefits" don't work that way here.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> PL > wrote:

>> Over here, if you've been in a relationship for X amount of time (3
>> years IIRC) you are deemed to be a 'married' couple and each person in
>> that relationship has the same rights as a couple who got the piece of
>> paper to say they are married.
>
> Unfortunately, company "Benefits" don't work that way here.


'Company benefits' aren't an issue over here. We have Private Health
Insurance. If you don't have that, you go through the Public Hospital
system.... which can take many years to achieve what you want ASAP.... unless
of course it's a serious condition.

Dental is covered under the PHS.

There is also public dental, which has a long waiting list, and you get done
by student dentists.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


A good friend would drive 30 miles at 2:00 am to bail you out of jail.
A best friend, however, would be sitting in the cell next to you saying
"Man, that was f******n Awesome!"

On Jun 4, 4:47*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:01:57 -0700 (PDT), maxine in ri wrote:
> > On Jun 3, 1:20 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 09:08:00 -0700 (PDT), maxine in ri wrote:
> >>> On Jun 2, 12:22 am, sf > wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:50:00 -0600, "gloria.p" >
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Seriously, the news makes me very sad.
>
> >>>> Me too. If it's a spat that can't be put into some sort of long term
> >>>> perspective after 40 years of marriage, where's the hope for the rest
> >>>> of us?
>
> >>> Outside of the newspapers, there's plenty of hope. Half of all
> >>> marriages do not end. You only hear about the ones that do.
>
> >>> maxine in ri
> >>> 19 years, 51 weeks
>
> >> congratulations on your twentieth if you manage to hold out another week.
>
> >> your pal
> >> blake
>
> > Thank you (I think)
>
> > maxine
>
> you can do it standing on your head. *i have faith in you.

Standing on one's head for a week is way more big time than merely
being married for 20 years.
>
> your pal,
> blake

--Bryan

In article >,
PL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
> > In article >,
> > PL > wrote:
>
> >> Over here, if you've been in a relationship for X amount of time (3
> >> years IIRC) you are deemed to be a 'married' couple and each person in
> >> that relationship has the same rights as a couple who got the piece of
> >> paper to say they are married.
> >
> > Unfortunately, company "Benefits" don't work that way here.
>
>
> 'Company benefits' aren't an issue over here. We have Private Health
> Insurance. If you don't have that, you go through the Public Hospital
> system.... which can take many years to achieve what you want ASAP.... unless
> of course it's a serious condition.
>
> Dental is covered under the PHS.
>
> There is also public dental, which has a long waiting list, and you get done
> by student dentists.

I think I like my way better. ;-) Good job and good benefits = good
health care.

She got married like she should and boom. Pregnancy benefits!
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> PL > wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote in
>> news >>
>> > In article >,
>> > PL > wrote:
>>
>> >> Over here, if you've been in a relationship for X amount of time (3
>> >> years IIRC) you are deemed to be a 'married' couple and each person
>> >> in that relationship has the same rights as a couple who got the
>> >> piece of paper to say they are married.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, company "Benefits" don't work that way here.
>>
>>
>> 'Company benefits' aren't an issue over here. We have Private Health
>> Insurance. If you don't have that, you go through the Public Hospital
>> system.... which can take many years to achieve what you want ASAP....
>> unless of course it's a serious condition.
>>
>> Dental is covered under the PHS.
>>
>> There is also public dental, which has a long waiting list, and you get
>> done by student dentists.
>
> I think I like my way better. ;-) Good job and good benefits = good
> health care.



The down side of that is not everyone has the type of job that gives them
those benefits.


But even people on an 'average' wage over here can afford health
insurance. They have different levels = different premiums.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


A good friend would drive 30 miles at 2:00 am to bail you out of jail.
A best friend, however, would be sitting in the cell next to you saying
"Man, that was f******n Awesome!"

In article >,
PL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
> > In article >,
> > PL > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet > wrote in
> >> news > >>
> >> > In article >,
> >> > PL > wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Over here, if you've been in a relationship for X amount of time (3
> >> >> years IIRC) you are deemed to be a 'married' couple and each person
> >> >> in that relationship has the same rights as a couple who got the
> >> >> piece of paper to say they are married.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately, company "Benefits" don't work that way here.
> >>
> >>
> >> 'Company benefits' aren't an issue over here. We have Private Health
> >> Insurance. If you don't have that, you go through the Public Hospital
> >> system.... which can take many years to achieve what you want ASAP....
> >> unless of course it's a serious condition.
> >>
> >> Dental is covered under the PHS.
> >>
> >> There is also public dental, which has a long waiting list, and you get
> >> done by student dentists.
> >
> > I think I like my way better. ;-) Good job and good benefits = good
> > health care.
>
>
>
> The down side of that is not everyone has the type of job that gives them
> those benefits.
>
>
> But even people on an 'average' wage over here can afford health
> insurance. They have different levels = different premiums.

Yes, I understand... but with this guy, he works in IT.
No longer a high paying job. About 1/2 of what I earn but then, I've
been doing this for 23 years. He has about 1/2 my time in.

His overall benefits are better, but his deductible is higher.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
PL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
> > In article >,
> > PL > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet > wrote in
> >> news > >>
> >> > In article >,
> >> > PL > wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Over here, if you've been in a relationship for X amount of time (3
> >> >> years IIRC) you are deemed to be a 'married' couple and each person
> >> >> in that relationship has the same rights as a couple who got the
> >> >> piece of paper to say they are married.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately, company "Benefits" don't work that way here.
> >>
> >>
> >> 'Company benefits' aren't an issue over here. We have Private Health
> >> Insurance. If you don't have that, you go through the Public Hospital
> >> system.... which can take many years to achieve what you want ASAP....
> >> unless of course it's a serious condition.
> >>
> >> Dental is covered under the PHS.
> >>
> >> There is also public dental, which has a long waiting list, and you get
> >> done by student dentists.
> >
> > I think I like my way better. ;-) Good job and good benefits = good
> > health care.
>
>
>
> The down side of that is not everyone has the type of job that gives them
> those benefits.
>
>
> But even people on an 'average' wage over here can afford health
> insurance. They have different levels = different premiums.

Ps, the other advantage is that waiting times are a LOT LOT shorter.
Dad has VA benefits which are run by the government. He had to wait 18
months for cataract surgery so spent several months totally blind.

9 months for hernia surgery. Had to lay down on the bed a couple of
times per day to tuck his guts back in thru the body wall and as a
result, the surgery was more drastic.

Private health care would have had him taken care of a lot sooner.

Government care kills.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

On 6/4/2010 8:38 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In 1.5>,
> > wrote:
>
>> > wrote in newsmpomelet-BDEB8A.20043303062010
>> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I know a couple that got married for insurance reasons... A legally
>>> married "spouse" got her prenatal and childbirth costs on the husbands
>>> insurance. She would not have qualified for benefits if they had not
>>> been legally married.
>>>
>>> Having kids can be rather high in medical costs if the "common law" wife
>>> is not employed.
>>
>>
>> Over here, if you've been in a relationship for X amount of time (3 years
>> IIRC) you are deemed to be a 'married' couple and each person in that
>> relationship has the same rights as a couple who got the piece of paper to
>> say they are married.
>
> Unfortunately, company "Benefits" don't work that way here.

In certain aspects of common law marriage in Texas they do Om. Son and
his wife were common law for a long time, she had a kidney problem and
they went to the county courthouse and registered their marriage as
common-law, that made it legal and his company insurance took care of
her. They have two half grown kids now, born with the help of the
company insurance.

In article >,
PL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news

> > I think I like my way better. ;-) Good job and good benefits = good
> > health care.
>
> The down side of that is not everyone has the type of job that gives them
> those benefits.
>
> But even people on an 'average' wage over here can afford health
> insurance. They have different levels = different premiums.

You don't think WallyWorld has good benefits? Really?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> On 6/4/2010 8:38 PM, Omelet wrote:
> > In 1.5>,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> > wrote in newsmpomelet-BDEB8A.20043303062010
> >> @news-wc.giganews.com:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I know a couple that got married for insurance reasons... A legally
> >>> married "spouse" got her prenatal and childbirth costs on the husbands
> >>> insurance. She would not have qualified for benefits if they had not
> >>> been legally married.
> >>>
> >>> Having kids can be rather high in medical costs if the "common law" wife
> >>> is not employed.
> >>
> >>
> >> Over here, if you've been in a relationship for X amount of time (3 years
> >> IIRC) you are deemed to be a 'married' couple and each person in that
> >> relationship has the same rights as a couple who got the piece of paper to
> >> say they are married.
> >
> > Unfortunately, company "Benefits" don't work that way here.
>
> In certain aspects of common law marriage in Texas they do Om. Son and
> his wife were common law for a long time, she had a kidney problem and
> they went to the county courthouse and registered their marriage as
> common-law, that made it legal and his company insurance took care of
> her. They have two half grown kids now, born with the help of the
> company insurance.

But they did "register". If they'd just continued to co-habitate
without doing that, then what would have happened?

This couple did not have a formal ceremony either. Just got "married"
by the local whatever. Same same but a marriage license is needed to
make it legal any way you look at it?
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-802F0C.03024405062010
@news-wc.giganews.com:



>>
>>
>>
>> The down side of that is not everyone has the type of job that gives
them
>> those benefits.
>>
>>
>> But even people on an 'average' wage over here can afford health
>> insurance. They have different levels = different premiums.
>
> Yes, I understand... but with this guy, he works in IT.
> No longer a high paying job. About 1/2 of what I earn but then, I've
> been doing this for 23 years. He has about 1/2 my time in.
>
> His overall benefits are better, but his deductible is higher.


Om, really, at the end of the day...... the Oz health benefits system
beats the shit out of anything you've got over there....... for the
majority of people.


You've grown up with the system you have, that's what you're used to.


I've been there, I've lived there, I've had to use your hospital
system..... and it cost me a *LOT* of money.


Trust me, our system is better.......... not great, but better.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


A good friend would drive 30 miles at 2:00 am to bail you out of jail.
A best friend, however, would be sitting in the cell next to you saying
"Man, that was f******n Awesome!"

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-CAD5C6.03053605062010
@news-wc.giganews.com:


>>
>>
>> But even people on an 'average' wage over here can afford health
>> insurance. They have different levels = different premiums.
>
> Ps, the other advantage is that waiting times are a LOT LOT shorter.
> Dad has VA benefits which are run by the government. He had to wait 18
> months for cataract surgery so spent several months totally blind.



????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




>
> 9 months for hernia surgery. Had to lay down on the bed a couple of
> times per day to tuck his guts back in thru the body wall and as a
> result, the surgery was more drastic.



???????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Once again Om, we have vast differences in care.

Here, we have 'VA benefits'...... it's called a "Gold Card".

You need something done, you go see a Dr/Specialist..... and it's done
ASAP.

If a Vet had to wait 18 months for surgery, for *anything*, there would be
a shitstorm.


The longest I've had to wait is 3 weeks...... and that was mainly because
the specialist dates for surgery 'interfered' with what I had planned in
the coming weeks.


>
> Private health care would have had him taken care of a lot sooner.
>
> Government care kills.


In the US.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


A good friend would drive 30 miles at 2:00 am to bail you out of jail.
A best friend, however, would be sitting in the cell next to you saying
"Man, that was f******n Awesome!"

Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-3C28B5.07213705062010@c-61-
68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:

> In article >,
> PL > wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote in
>> news
>
>> > I think I like my way better. ;-) Good job and good benefits = good
>> > health care.
>>
>> The down side of that is not everyone has the type of job that gives
them
>> those benefits.
>>
>> But even people on an 'average' wage over here can afford health
>> insurance. They have different levels = different premiums.
>
> You don't think WallyWorld has good benefits? Really?
>



LOL!!

OK, so tell me...... what can WallyWorld give you?


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


A good friend would drive 30 miles at 2:00 am to bail you out of jail.
A best friend, however, would be sitting in the cell next to you saying
"Man, that was f******n Awesome!"

In article >,
PL > wrote:

> Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-3C28B5.07213705062010@c-61-
> 68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:
>
> > In article >,
> > PL > wrote:

> >> But even people on an 'average' wage over here can afford health
> >> insurance. They have different levels = different premiums.
> >
> > You don't think WallyWorld has good benefits? Really?

> LOL!!
>
> OK, so tell me...... what can WallyWorld give you?

I just know what I've read. They give new employees an information
packet telling them how to go to the local county government office and
apply for welfare benefits!

That's not the case for management level employees, of course. They can
get health insurance benefits through the company...but they have to pay
100% of the cost!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
PL > wrote:

> Om, really, at the end of the day...... the Oz health benefits system
> beats the shit out of anything you've got over there....... for the
> majority of people.
>
>
> You've grown up with the system you have, that's what you're used to.
>
>
> I've been there, I've lived there, I've had to use your hospital
> system..... and it cost me a *LOT* of money.
>
>
> Trust me, our system is better.......... not great, but better.
>
>
> --
> Peter Lucas

But who pays for it all and how long are the waiting periods?
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
PL > wrote:

> > Private health care would have had him taken care of a lot sooner.
> >
> > Government care kills.
>
>
> In the US.
>
>
> --
> Peter Lucas

Your Government appears to be more efficient than ours. They've already
****ed up what they DO run.

I trust you understand why I don't trust them to get it right with the
general populace...
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

they are not part of my life, so why should i
worry about people i dont know?
more important topics are out there.

In article >,
(jay- tin) wrote:

> they are not part of my life, so why should i
> worry about people i dont know?
> more important topics are out there.

Kind of self-centered don't you think?

Are you also a radical right winger?
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:42:59 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> PL > wrote:
>
>> Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-3C28B5.07213705062010@c-61-
>> 68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:
>>
>> > In article >,
>> > PL > wrote:
>
>> >> But even people on an 'average' wage over here can afford health
>> >> insurance. They have different levels = different premiums.
>> >
>> > You don't think WallyWorld has good benefits? Really?
>
>> LOL!!
>>
>> OK, so tell me...... what can WallyWorld give you?
>
>I just know what I've read. They give new employees an information
>packet telling them how to go to the local county government office and
>apply for welfare benefits!
>
>That's not the case for management level employees, of course. They can
>get health insurance benefits through the company...but they have to pay
>100% of the cost!

I think yoose are fulla doodoo. Commiserate with ability Walmart
treats its employes as good as any and better than most employers. Do
yoose really believe people with virtually no education who stock
shelves, retrieve carts, and mop floors should get compensated equal
to those with college degrees who work as accountants, operational
managers, and department heads. All you Walmart haters only wish you
could work there but with your checkered pasts are probably felons who
couldn't get hired to swab Walmart's terlits because you were recently
discharged from more than five years in a psychiatric institution, are
registered sex offenders, or failed their drug test.

http://walmartstores.com/Careers/7750.aspx

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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| I think yoose are fulla doodoo. Commiserate with ability Walmart
| treats its employes as good as any and better than most employers.

Oh thank god, finally the Voice of Experience. Thank you so very.

pavane

On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 19:46:34 -0400, pavane wrote:

> "brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ..
> .........
>| I think yoose are fulla doodoo. Commiserate with ability Walmart
>| treats its employes as good as any and better than most employers.
>
> Oh thank god, finally the Voice of Experience. Thank you so very.
>
> pavane

i especially liked 'commiserate with ability.'

your pal,
blake

On Jun 1, 11:32*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> brooklyn1 wrote:
> > No pot luck, no pot lucks ever, not for any reason whatsoever.
>
> You invite people to come and share your celebration, not to cater it.
> You should not expect people to get all gussied up, perhaps drive al ong
> way, bring a present and then to BYOB and food. *That's not just tacky.
> It's downright cheap. There may be circumstances that would excuse it,
> but I sure wouldn't advise it.

I had a partial potluck wedding. We provided a whole roast pig
(cooked
by DH's brothers), and asked people to bring side dishes. We also
bought the beer and wine. Instead of a cake, we had fresh
strawberries.
(That reminds me, my 21st wedding anniversary is in two days.)

We asked people not to bring presents, but some did, anyway.

Nobody got gussied up. It was held in a park. Only his family drove
any distance (from Cincinnati to Ann Arbor, about 5 hours).

I wore a skirt and a blouse; he wore slacks and a sport shirt.

Everybody had a great time; our friends still talk about how
enjoyable it was. IIRC we had about 100 people there.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:03:58 -0700, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> I had a partial potluck wedding. We provided a whole roast pig (cooked
> by DH's brothers), and asked people to bring side dishes. We also
> bought the beer and wine. Instead of a cake, we had fresh strawberries.
> (That reminds me, my 21st wedding anniversary is in two days.)


Congratulations!

>
> We asked people not to bring presents, but some did, anyway.
>
> Nobody got gussied up. It was held in a park. Only his family drove
> any distance (from Cincinnati to Ann Arbor, about 5 hours).
>
> I wore a skirt and a blouse; he wore slacks and a sport shirt.
>
> Everybody had a great time; our friends still talk about how enjoyable
> it was. IIRC we had about 100 people there.

Sounds PDG to me. May the next 21 years be just as good ;-)

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"Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
>> On Jun 1, 11:32 am, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> > brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > > No pot luck, no pot lucks ever, not for any reason whatsoever.
>> >
>> > You invite people to come and share your celebration, not to cater it.
>> > You should not expect people to get all gussied up, perhaps drive al
>> > ong
>> > way, bring a present and then to BYOB and food. That's not just tacky.
>> > It's downright cheap. There may be circumstances that would excuse it,
>> > but I sure wouldn't advise it.
>>
>> I had a partial potluck wedding. We provided a whole roast pig
>> (cooked
>> by DH's brothers), and asked people to bring side dishes. We also
>> bought the beer and wine. Instead of a cake, we had fresh
>> strawberries.
>> (That reminds me, my 21st wedding anniversary is in two days.)
>
> I don't have a problem with a community (be it the church or family
> or whatever) pulling together and everyone contributing something to
> make the wedding meal, but I do have a hard time with the idea of a
> potluck wedding where guests are asked to bring something. Not because
> they are supposed to bring a gift, strictly speaking, they are not
> required to do so, and not because it is a fancy wedding, because it
> might not be, but because guests are asked to come share the joy of the
> couple, not work for them. Same reason that bridezillas who shriek
> about how they paid so much for the dinner, so such and such a guest was
> a cheapskate for only spending $50 on the gift are so tacky. People
> aren't supposed to go to weddings for a financial or commercial
> exchange. The poor friend who can't afford an expensive gift should be
> just as welcome as the wealthy friend who buys the entire crystal set.
> Neither of them should be expected to pay their way in to the
> festivities.

Agreed!

We (the women's group in our Church) often prepare wedding buffets for our
members.

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On Jun 8, 11:28*am, Ran e at Arabian Knits >
wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 1, 11:32 am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> > > brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > > No pot luck, no pot lucks ever, not for any reason whatsoever.
>
> > > You invite people to come and share your celebration, not to cater it..
> > > You should not expect people to get all gussied up, perhaps drive al ong
> > > way, bring a present and then to BYOB and food. That's not just tacky..
> > > It's downright cheap. There may be circumstances that would excuse it,
> > > but I sure wouldn't advise it.
>
> > I had a partial potluck wedding. *We provided a whole roast pig
> > (cooked
> > by DH's brothers), and asked people to bring side dishes. *We also
> > bought the beer and wine. *Instead of a cake, we had fresh
> > strawberries.
> > (That reminds me, my 21st wedding anniversary is in two days.)
>
> * *I don't have a problem with a community (be it the church or family
> or whatever)

Our community is our friends. We are atheists, I am an only child (my
mother has only one brother, who is childless, and I never knew my
father or any of his family), and my husband's family lives far away.

>pulling together and everyone contributing something to
> make the wedding meal, but I do have a hard time with the idea of a
> potluck wedding where guests are asked to bring something. *Not because
> they are supposed to bring a gift, strictly speaking, they are not
> required to do so, and not because it is a fancy wedding, because it
> might not be, but because guests are asked to come share the joy of the
> couple, not work for them. *Same reason that bridezillas who shriek
> about how they paid so much for the dinner, so such and such a guest was
> a cheapskate for only spending $50 on the gift are so tacky. *People
> aren't supposed to go to weddings for a financial or commercial
> exchange. *The poor friend who can't afford an expensive gift should be
> just as welcome as the wealthy friend who buys the entire crystal set. *
> Neither of them should be expected to pay their way in to the
> festivities.

No one was expected to pay at our wedding. Everyone who heard
we were doing a pig roast in the park asked "What can we bring?"
or "What can I do?" A few bachelors didn't bring anything and were
heartily welcome.

Our friends and family were well accustomed to potlucks for a
variety of festivities.

I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> Agreed!
>
> We (the women's group in our Church) often prepare wedding buffets for our
> members.
>
> --

Who pays for the ingredients for the spread?
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Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

On 6/8/2010 5:28 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> Agreed!
>>
>> We (the women's group in our Church) often prepare wedding buffets for our
>> members.
>>
>> --
>
> Who pays for the ingredients for the spread?

I'm worried about what they call it, I know what a "Dead Spread" is but
what is a wedding spread, a "spread 'em spread?"

On 6/9/2010 4:57 PM, George Shirley wrote:
> On 6/8/2010 5:28 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>> Who pays for the ingredients for the spread?
>
> I'm worried about what they call it, I know what a "Dead Spread" is
> but what is a wedding spread, a "spread 'em spread?"

Gasp! <blushing>

Becca

ObFood:


Dirty Rice

1 quart water
1 pound chicken livers
3 teaspoons Creole seasoning
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup butter
2 cups white rice
1 cup celery, chopped
2 cups onions, chopped
1 cup bell pepper, chopped
1 cup scallions, sliced
2 tablespoons garlic, minced
4 tablespoons parsley, chopped

In a Dutch oven over medium heat, place chicken livers in water and boil
until done, about 30 minutes, skimming off any fat. Reserve cooking
liquid; cool and dice livers and set aside.

In a 10-inch cast iron skillet, melt butter and saute rice until it
starts turning brown. Add onions, garlic, celery, bell pepper and
parsley; cook until tender.

Heat chicken livers in original water and add rice. Water should cover
rice to a depth of one inch; add more water if necessary.

Bring to a boil and cook until the water has almost evaporated. Stir,
cover and cook over low heat for about 25 minutes. Stir in green onions,
remove from heat and let stand for about 10 minutes. Stir and serve.

George Shirley wrote:


>
> I'm worried about what they call it, I know what a "Dead Spread" is but
> what is a wedding spread, a "spread 'em spread?"


George, you shock me!

I'd prefer Wed Spread.

gloria p

On 6/9/2010 8:16 PM, gloria.p wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I'm worried about what they call it, I know what a "Dead Spread" is
>> but what is a wedding spread, a "spread 'em spread?"
>
>
> George, you shock me!
>
> I'd prefer Wed Spread.
>
> gloria p
I knew there was a politically correct answer, just couldn't think of
it at the time.

Note: I may be old but I ain't dead yet.

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> On 6/8/2010 5:28 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In >,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Agreed!
> >>
> >> We (the women's group in our Church) often prepare wedding buffets for our
> >> members.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> > Who pays for the ingredients for the spread?
>
> I'm worried about what they call it, I know what a "Dead Spread" is but
> what is a wedding spread, a "spread 'em spread?"

<chuckles> Bad boy... ;-)
--
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*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

George Shirley wrote:
> On 6/9/2010 8:16 PM, gloria.p wrote:
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I'm worried about what they call it, I know what a "Dead Spread" is
>>> but what is a wedding spread, a "spread 'em spread?"
>>
>>
>> George, you shock me!
>>
>> I'd prefer Wed Spread.
>>
>> gloria p
> I knew there was a politically correct answer, just couldn't think of
> it at the time.
>
> Note: I may be old but I ain't dead yet.


<Snork> Evidently not!

gloria p

On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:57:40 -0500, George Shirley wrote:

> On 6/8/2010 5:28 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In >,
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed!
>>>
>>> We (the women's group in our Church) often prepare wedding buffets for our
>>> members.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Who pays for the ingredients for the spread?
>
> I'm worried about what they call it, I know what a "Dead Spread" is but
> what is a wedding spread, a "spread 'em spread?"

i thought that was the 'bed spread.'

your pal,
blake