On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:24:59 -0400, "Cheryl" >
wrote:

>I heard a story on the radio tonight driving home from work about foods that
>can help you sleep better, and those that will interfere with falling
>asleep. We all know that most people are impacted by caffeine intake at
>night, but some of those to avoid were interesting. Such as certain
>proteins.
>
>I couldn't find the story on the radio's web site but found this by
>searching Google:
>http://www.holisticonline.com/Remedi...d-and-diet.htm
>
>I definitely suffer insomnia so it is of interest to me.

Carby foods certainly work on me - one of several reasons why I
normally tend to avoid them, especially during the day (albeit not
religiously).

The g/f makes porridge with milk when she can't sleep, which is
usually quite effective on her.

On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:01:32 +1000, Jeßus wrote:

> Carby foods certainly work on me - one of several reasons why I
> normally tend to avoid them, especially during the day (albeit not
> religiously).

When I was low-carbing, I couldn't sleep unless I ate some carbs..
Sometimes a couple-few tablespoons of metamucil or plain psyllium
husk worked, but give me two pieces of generic white bread and my
eyes would start to water and this warm, satisfied feeling came
over me and it was lights out.

-sw

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:44:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:01:32 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> Carby foods certainly work on me - one of several reasons why I
>> normally tend to avoid them, especially during the day (albeit not
>> religiously).
>
>When I was low-carbing, I couldn't sleep unless I ate some carbs..
>Sometimes a couple-few tablespoons of metamucil or plain psyllium
>husk worked, but give me two pieces of generic white bread and my
>eyes would start to water and this warm, satisfied feeling came
>over me and it was lights out.

And that is the problem with refined carbs - they have that effect and
thus become so very, very addictive. Hence the legions of obese and
diabetic people in the west.

I went low carb back in early 2003, did wonders for me in more ways
than one. I discovered I had a wheat intolerance for one thing, and my
excess weight plummeted. Did you notice any 'ketosis'? I did, for a
few days... once through that I was fine, and have been ever since.

My diet is still fairly low carb compared to the average diet - I
avoid grains (although not religiously) and went back to eating
potatoes some time back (I love them too much!).

I've been able to maintain my ideal weight in the past 3 or so years
without any struggle, I'm sure my fanaticism for fresh organic produce
and fairly physical lifestyle has a lot to do with that though.

On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:59:28 +1000, Jeßus wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:44:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:01:32 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> Carby foods certainly work on me - one of several reasons why I
>>> normally tend to avoid them, especially during the day (albeit not
>>> religiously).
>>
>>When I was low-carbing, I couldn't sleep unless I ate some carbs..
>>Sometimes a couple-few tablespoons of metamucil or plain psyllium
>>husk worked, but give me two pieces of generic white bread and my
>>eyes would start to water and this warm, satisfied feeling came
>>over me and it was lights out.
>
> And that is the problem with refined carbs - they have that effect and
> thus become so very, very addictive. Hence the legions of obese and
> diabetic people in the west.

Oh, so you're turning this into a US bashing thread.

Hate to say it, but people from all over the world are eating
bread, pasta and rice and have been for thousands and thousands of
years. I eat less carbs than the average Chinese, French or
Italian. And probably more than any festering little Australian,
too.

-sw

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:30:19 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:59:28 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:44:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:01:32 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Carby foods certainly work on me - one of several reasons why I
>>>> normally tend to avoid them, especially during the day (albeit not
>>>> religiously).
>>>
>>>When I was low-carbing, I couldn't sleep unless I ate some carbs..
>>>Sometimes a couple-few tablespoons of metamucil or plain psyllium
>>>husk worked, but give me two pieces of generic white bread and my
>>>eyes would start to water and this warm, satisfied feeling came
>>>over me and it was lights out.
>>
>> And that is the problem with refined carbs - they have that effect and
>> thus become so very, very addictive. Hence the legions of obese and
>> diabetic people in the west.
>
>Oh, so you're turning this into a US bashing thread.

"The term Western countries (sometimes the West or the Occident) is
somewhat imprecisely defined - derived from the old dualism of East
(Asia) and West (Europe) - now used to refer to wealthy and
industrialised countries, as the inheritants of European societies,
and their colonial legacies. The term is sometimes used as a synonym
for the Western societies.

Depending on context, the Western countries may be restricted to the
founding members of NATO in addition to Germany, Spain, and the
non-aligned Austria, Finland, Sweden and Switzerland. A broader
definition might extend to Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea,
the Republic of China (Taiwan), Israel and some of the more prosperous
Warsaw Pact states."

http://www.fact-index.com/w/we/western_countries.html


>Hate to say it, but people from all over the world are eating
>bread, pasta and rice and have been for thousands and thousands of
>years. I eat less carbs than the average Chinese, French or
>Italian. And probably more than any festering little Australian,
>too.
>
>-sw

On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:57:58 +1000, Jeßus wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:30:19 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:59:28 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:44:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:01:32 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Carby foods certainly work on me - one of several reasons why I
>>>>> normally tend to avoid them, especially during the day (albeit not
>>>>> religiously).
>>>>
>>>>When I was low-carbing, I couldn't sleep unless I ate some carbs..
>>>>Sometimes a couple-few tablespoons of metamucil or plain psyllium
>>>>husk worked, but give me two pieces of generic white bread and my
>>>>eyes would start to water and this warm, satisfied feeling came
>>>>over me and it was lights out.
>>>
>>> And that is the problem with refined carbs - they have that effect and
>>> thus become so very, very addictive. Hence the legions of obese and
>>> diabetic people in the west.
>>
>>Oh, so you're turning this into a US bashing thread.
>
> "The term Western countries (sometimes the West or the Occident) is
> somewhat imprecisely defined - derived from the old dualism of East
> (Asia) and West (Europe) - now used to refer to wealthy and
> industrialised countries, as the inheritants of European societies,
> and their colonial legacies. The term is sometimes used as a synonym
> for the Western societies.
>
> Depending on context, the Western countries may be restricted to the
> founding members of NATO in addition to Germany, Spain, and the
> non-aligned Austria, Finland, Sweden and Switzerland. A broader
> definition might extend to Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea,
> the Republic of China (Taiwan), Israel and some of the more prosperous
> Warsaw Pact states."
>
> http://www.fact-index.com/w/we/western_countries.html

You're right, it's never considered to be North America.

Lay off the crack and pedal forward.

-sw