Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).

Roast Beef in the sliced to order deli: "A Water and Binder
Product" (What, no roast beef?)

Sea scallops holding steady at a mere 30% water (Sam's Club were
still 25% last I looked). The Bay scallops said they were just
scallops, but I find that impossible considering they were from
China.

Frozen "Strip Steaks": Made from Frobinogen and Beef Plasma
Protein (sounds like blood to me).

And the imitation cheese selection now outweighs the real cheese
section. New one to me: "A water and imitation cheese food
product" (this means they must have cut out the "expensive"
vegetable oil in favor of water).

What next, Isolated Water Products and Alternative Dirt
Derivatives? Soylent Yellow is looking pretty good right now.

I didn't know what the "Slow Food" movement was about until just
recently. I ignore all kinds of "movements" (except physiological
ones), but this one isn't whacko in the least. It's about
preserving the foods and food traditions as we know it (or, AS WE
KNEW them). Nothing at Walmart would possibly qualify as Slow
Food. The Ark of Taste especially interests me.

-sw

On 2010-06-04, Sqwertz > wrote:

> What next, Isolated Water Products and Alternative Dirt
> Derivatives? Soylent Yellow is looking pretty good right now.

Dang, S, you spend that much time around WallyWorld? It's one of my
only options besides Safeway and a Kroger mrkt, but I try not to dwell
on it. WW pretty much sucks, meatwise (nothing implied!). So, jes
don't buy meat, there.

nb

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:43:23 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>I didn't know what the "Slow Food" movement was about until just
>recently. I ignore all kinds of "movements" (except physiological
>ones), but this one isn't whacko in the least. It's about
>preserving the foods and food traditions as we know it (or, AS WE
>KNEW them). Nothing at Walmart would possibly qualify as Slow
>Food. The Ark of Taste especially interests me.

They have Convivia (chapters) all over the place... I would imagine
they also have one in Austin. Have you joined?
http://slowfoodaustin.org/

Yes, the Ark of Taste is really neat. They are being moderately
successful in keeping interest alive in some of the old heritage
breeds of pigs, and turkeys. Interest in those is starting to really
take off. Not just those of course, but those have garnered the most
attention in the last few years.

Are you familiar with the Southern Foodways Alliance? You might find
that of interest too.
http://www.southernfoodways.com/index.html

Christine

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 03:51:51 GMT, notbob wrote:

> On 2010-06-04, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> What next, Isolated Water Products and Alternative Dirt
>> Derivatives? Soylent Yellow is looking pretty good right now.
>
> Dang, S, you spend that much time around WallyWorld? It's one of my
> only options besides Safeway and a Kroger mrkt, but I try not to dwell
> on it. WW pretty much sucks, meatwise (nothing implied!). So, jes
> don't buy meat, there.

Walmart is the closest point between the last bus stop and my
house. So the cab ride home is cheapest from there. And they
have a bathroom, which comes in handy after 1.5 hours on the bus.

I've bought cob-smoked ham twice and green onions once. That's
the extent of the things I've bought there in the last 6 weeks.
And I stop to read some labels here and there. Sosueme. Oh, and
the can of Libby's beets pictured on ABF tonight came from Walmart
($.83 at Walmart compared to $.58 at my normal HEB. Even the
"Great Value": brand was $.84).

Yes, I read labels. And I remember the prices of most everything
I buy.

-sw

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).

> -sw

Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
(wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-( <8*(


--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat.
> Cook's have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who
> screams about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time,
> absolutely missed (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is
> added ingredients" statement. I weep for sad. After reading your
> post I thought maybe they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe
> just the ones that go to Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No
> such luck. :-( :-( <8*(

If it makes you feel any better, I noticed that about Cook's ham
slices quite a few years ago, so it's not new and probably not
Wally's fault. It was around 25% water. I have been buying
ham slices from Costco for the last couple of years because the
water content is lower.

nancy

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:46:42 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
>> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
>> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
>
>> -sw
>
> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
> have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
> statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-( <8*(

They could very well be hams made specifically for Walmart. Most
manufacturers who supply Walmart have two lines of products - One
they sell to Walmart (and now Target), and another they sell to
everybody else to try and maintain their reputation. Lebvi Jeans
is a good example (the ones bought from Walmart rip within
months).

-sw

-sw

On 6/4/2010 8:46 AM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
>> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
>> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
>
>> -sw
>
> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
> have been my favorite ham for a very long time.

If you like it what difference does it make?

> And I, who screams
> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
> statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-(<8*(
>
>

On 2010-06-04, Sqwertz > wrote:

> And I stop to read some labels here and there. Sosueme.

Why would I want to sue you? I just suggested you not buy their meat.
Geez.... take a break.

nb

On Jun 4, 7:46*am, Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> *Sqwertz > wrote:
> > Cooks brand ham: *"A water and ham product": *25% of weight is
> > added water. *Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
> > hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
> > -sw
>
> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. *Cook's
> have been my favorite ham for a very long time. *And I, who screams
> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
> statement. *I weep for sad. *After reading your post I thought maybe
> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. *No such luck. *:-( *:-( *<8*(
>
> --
> Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJhttp://web.me.com/barbschaller
> Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

My best grrrrrrr is for the Hormel pork in the butcher's case - it is
ALL injected, but when they pull 2 or 3 pork chops out from the
display window, there isn't any sign saying so - it's pretending to be
"real" pork. Fie on them.

N.

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:52:07 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2010-06-04, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
> > And I stop to read some labels here and there. Sosueme.
>
> Why would I want to sue you? I just suggested you not buy their meat.
> Geez.... take a break.
>
He loves to go to crappy places and then complain here about all the
crap he saw there. That's what he does. Garbage in, garbage out.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

Nancy2 wrote:

> My best grrrrrrr is for the Hormel pork in the butcher's case - it is
> ALL injected, but when they pull 2 or 3 pork chops out from the
> display window, there isn't any sign saying so - it's pretending to be
> "real" pork. Fie on them.
>
> N.

Accck! Aren't you in Iowa pig country? I would have imagined you had
access to wonderful pork. As you say- Fie on Hormel

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
>> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
>> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
>
>> -sw
>
> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
> have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
> statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-( <8*(
>


You just kinda sorta stomped on my aorta...

Bob

On Jun 4, 9:32*am, "J. Clarke" > wrote:
>
> If you like it what difference does it make?

Because who wants to pay meat prices for water?

On 6/4/2010 2:46 AM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
>> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
>> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
>
>> -sw
>
> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
> have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
> statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-(<8*(
>
>

I wouldn't worry about it too much - meat is mostly water anyway.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
>> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
>> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
>
>> -sw
>
> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
> have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
> statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-( <8*(


I used to buy their hams all the time, especially the ham slices. They
started selling ham flavored water a few years ago and I stopped. I will
not buy a Smithfield, they have the most outrageous labor problems and they
have been caught torturing the hell out of the animals prior to slaughter.
I just can't abide that. And Hormel is crap, too. Short of a specialty
meat market I can't get a decent ham anywhere.

Paul

"Nancy Young" wrote:
>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
>> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat.
>> Cook's have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who
>> screams about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time,
>> absolutely missed (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is
>> added ingredients" statement. I weep for sad. After reading your
>> post I thought maybe they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe
>> just the ones that go to Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No
>> such luck. :-( :-( <8*(

Has not a whit to do with Walmart.

>If it makes you feel any better, I noticed that about Cook's ham
>slices quite a few years ago, so it's not new and probably not
>Wally's fault. It was around 25% water. I have been buying
>ham slices from Costco for the last couple of years because the
>water content is lower.

Actually depends how one views it... it's not water added if compared
to before ham is cured. Curing removes about 25% of the water from
fresh ham (called green weight). Raw mammal flesh is about 75% water.
That type of ham has always had water added, just that of late they
have to label it so... they're just putting back the water that was
removed in processing, otherwise folks wouldn't like the texture. If
you want dry ham it's readily available, but will cost a whole lot
more than Cook's and it's ilk, and you probably won't enjoy it in a
ham n'swiss. If you enjoy cured meats don't look at the labels or it
will make you sick.

In article
>,
Nancy2 > wrote:

> My best grrrrrrr is for the Hormel pork in the butcher's case - it is
> ALL injected, but when they pull 2 or 3 pork chops out from the
> display window, there isn't any sign saying so - it's pretending to be
> "real" pork. Fie on them.
>
> N.

I refuse to buy Hormel pork. I get most of my pigmeat from the farmer
who raises them. "It was walking on Thursday." :-)
--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:11:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:46:42 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
>>> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
>>> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
>> have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
>> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
>> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
>> statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
>> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
>> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-( <8*(
>
>They could very well be hams made specifically for Walmart. Most
>manufacturers who supply Walmart have two lines of products - One
>they sell to Walmart (and now Target), and another they sell to
>everybody else to try and maintain their reputation.

Bullshit. Walmart can sell for less because they pay less because
they buy in greater volume than everyone else. Anyone thinks the
Scope mouth wash at Walmart is lower quality because it's priced less
than elsewhere is nuts, probably having an eliptical fit... until
today I didn't know the dwarf was in orbit, however aren't all dwarfs
kinda ovate? LOL

>Lebvi Jeans
>is a good example (the ones bought from Walmart rip within
>months).

Especially the knees, eh, dwarf? hehehe

Levi makes many styles of jeans using different weight denim... dwafs
like you who claim to have a nice ass probably wear denim with
spandex... they ship the same quality product to every store....
Walmart probably sells mostly if not all the lower weight denim
styles, obviously lower weight denim costs less but wears faster. Most
folks, especially rugrats, don't need the heavy duty denim, they
outgrow them so fast they never get to wear/wash them out and often
the style is not to wear washed out jeans... mostly out grown out of
style jeans get passsed down or donated so why pay top dollar for
something one can't use up. Folks who want to wear their clothes
month after month, wash after wash, year after year shouldn't be
buying their clothing from Walmart... buy those at a store that
specializes in workman/contractor clothing, they'll have the original
heavyweight Levis... they'll also cost a lot more than the light
weight styles from Walmart.

WOW... Levi has more kinds of jeans than I can count:
http://us.levi.com/home/index.jsp?clickid=header_logo

On 6/4/2010 4:28 PM, brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:11:09 -0500, >
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:46:42 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>>> In >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
>>>> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
>>>> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
>>> have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
>>> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
>>> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
>>> statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
>>> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
>>> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-(<8*(
>>
>> They could very well be hams made specifically for Walmart. Most
>> manufacturers who supply Walmart have two lines of products - One
>> they sell to Walmart (and now Target), and another they sell to
>> everybody else to try and maintain their reputation.
>
> Bullshit. Walmart can sell for less because they pay less because
> they buy in greater volume than everyone else. Anyone thinks the
> Scope mouth wash at Walmart is lower quality because it's priced less
> than elsewhere is nuts, probably having an eliptical fit... until
> today I didn't know the dwarf was in orbit, however aren't all dwarfs
> kinda ovate? LOL


How long have you believed you are omniscient?

>
>> Lebvi Jeans
>> is a good example (the ones bought from Walmart rip within
>> months).
>
> Especially the knees, eh, dwarf? hehehe
>
> Levi makes many styles of jeans using different weight denim... dwafs
> like you who claim to have a nice ass probably wear denim with
> spandex... they ship the same quality product to every store....
> Walmart probably sells mostly if not all the lower weight denim
> styles, obviously lower weight denim costs less but wears faster. Most
> folks, especially rugrats, don't need the heavy duty denim, they
> outgrow them so fast they never get to wear/wash them out and often
> the style is not to wear washed out jeans... mostly out grown out of
> style jeans get passsed down or donated so why pay top dollar for
> something one can't use up. Folks who want to wear their clothes
> month after month, wash after wash, year after year shouldn't be
> buying their clothing from Walmart... buy those at a store that
> specializes in workman/contractor clothing, they'll have the original
> heavyweight Levis... they'll also cost a lot more than the light
> weight styles from Walmart.
>
> WOW... Levi has more kinds of jeans than I can count:
> http://us.levi.com/home/index.jsp?clickid=header_logo

On 6/4/2010 11:56 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:52:07 GMT, > wrote:
>
>> On 2010-06-04, > wrote:
>>
>>> And I stop to read some labels here and there. Sosueme.
>>
>> Why would I want to sue you? I just suggested you not buy their meat.
>> Geez.... take a break.
>>
> He loves to go to crappy places and then complain here about all the
> crap he saw there. That's what he does. Garbage in, garbage out.
>
So no one should mention "Shelden Gold Star Quality" products sold by
walmart?

On 6/4/2010 14:55, George wrote:
> How long have you believed you are omniscient?

He doesn't just believe it. He KNOWS it.

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:28:27 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:11:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:46:42 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
>>>> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
>>>> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
>>> have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
>>> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
>>> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
>>> statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
>>> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
>>> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-( <8*(
>>
>>They could very well be hams made specifically for Walmart. Most
>>manufacturers who supply Walmart have two lines of products - One
>>they sell to Walmart (and now Target), and another they sell to
>>everybody else to try and maintain their reputation.
>
> Bullshit.

No, it's not. Look it up. Or better yet, get out an experience
it yourself.

Dude, I have never known anybody who is more out of tune than you.
Well, that has an IQ above 90.

-sw

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:56:06 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:52:07 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2010-06-04, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> And I stop to read some labels here and there. Sosueme.
>>
>> Why would I want to sue you? I just suggested you not buy their meat.
>> Geez.... take a break.
>>
> He loves to go to crappy places and then complain here about all the
> crap he saw there. That's what he does. Garbage in, garbage out.

Did I complain? Not at all. You love piggybacking on others'
quotes of mine without actually reading the original post.

Stop living in my shadow. It's dark and gloomy in here. Get your
own life, Barbara. It may be brighter for you.

-sw

On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 01:13:57 -0500, Em-E-Lit > wrote:

> Stop living in my shadow. It's dark and gloomy in here. Get your
> own life, Barbara. It may be brighter for you.

Heh. That comes from one whose hobby is to morph. <slapping knee>
Good one, Hayseed.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

In article >,
"J. Clarke" > wrote:

> On 6/4/2010 8:46 AM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In >,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
> >> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
> >> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
> >
> >> -sw
> >
> > Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
> > have been my favorite ham for a very long time.
>
> If you like it what difference does it make?

It changes the real cost per pound of the ham. I feel like I've been
snookered and I'm embarrassed at that. <shrugs>
--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:46:42 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Sqwertz > wrote:
> >
> >> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
> >> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
> >> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
> >
> >> -sw
> >
> > Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
> > have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
> > about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
> > (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
> > statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
> > they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
> > Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-( <8*(
>
> They could very well be hams made specifically for Walmart. Most
> manufacturers who supply Walmart have two lines of products - One
> they sell to Walmart (and now Target), and another they sell to
> everybody else to try and maintain their reputation. Lebvi Jeans
> is a good example (the ones bought from Walmart rip within
> months).
>
> -sw

That's what I'm saying - I did not get my Cook's at Walmart and it is
23% water. :-( The Hormel tenderloins are up to 30% "flavor solution."


--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

WalFAIL already represents the LOWEST standards of the world.

I'm quite ashamed I ever shopped there, but I do not anymore. Ever!
WalFAIL is the FastFood of the retail world, catering to the masses'
desire to have as much worthless useless low-quality STUFF as
possible, just so long as it's CHEAP!!!

And I reiterate:

Data from http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

U.S. Trade Imbalance with China (millions of dollars, to China)

Year Amount
1985 6
1986 1664
1987 2796
1988 3489
1989 6234
1990 10431
1991 12591
1992 18309
1993 22777
1994 29505
1995 33789
1996 39520
1997 47695
1998 56927
1999 68677
2000 83833
2001 83096
2002 103064
2003 124068
2004 161938
2005 201544
2006 232548
2007 258506
2008 268040
2009 208688

Wanna know where your manufacturing job went? ;-)

John Kuthe...

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 11:10:10 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>That's what I'm saying - I did not get my Cook's at Walmart and it is
>23% water. :-( The Hormel tenderloins are up to 30% "flavor solution."
>

Ya know, that might be a good reason to learn to cure your own
hams...LOL.

Christine

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:55:58 -0400, George wrote:

> On 6/4/2010 4:28 PM, brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Bullshit. Walmart can sell for less because they pay less because
>> they buy in greater volume than everyone else. Anyone thinks the
>> Scope mouth wash at Walmart is lower quality because it's priced less
>> than elsewhere is nuts, probably having an eliptical fit... until
>> today I didn't know the dwarf was in orbit, however aren't all dwarfs
>> kinda ovate? LOL
>
> How long have you believed you are omniscient?

an omniscient being would know how to spell 'epileptic.'

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 01:12:53 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:28:27 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:11:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:46:42 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cooks brand ham: "A water and ham product": 25% of weight is
>>>>> added water. Still more expensive than the Smithfiled wet-cured
>>>>> hams ("Ham in natural juices" - the best quality).
>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>>> Man, you just stomped on my heart and smashed that sucker flat. Cook's
>>>> have been my favorite ham for a very long time. And I, who screams
>>>> about Hormel's added "flavor solution" all the time, absolutely missed
>>>> (wasn't even looking for it) that "23% of weight is added ingredients"
>>>> statement. I weep for sad. After reading your post I thought maybe
>>>> they don't do that to all their hams -- maybe just the ones that go to
>>>> Walmart--and I didn't get mine there. No such luck. :-( :-( <8*(
>>>
>>>They could very well be hams made specifically for Walmart. Most
>>>manufacturers who supply Walmart have two lines of products - One
>>>they sell to Walmart (and now Target), and another they sell to
>>>everybody else to try and maintain their reputation.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>
> No, it's not. Look it up. Or better yet, get out an experience
> it yourself.
>
> Dude, I have never known anybody who is more out of tune than you.
> Well, that has an IQ above 90.
>
> -sw

what's the i.q. cut-off for navy cooks?

your pal,
blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:55:58 -0400, George wrote:
>
> > On 6/4/2010 4:28 PM, brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>
> >> Bullshit. Walmart can sell for less because they pay less because
> >> they buy in greater volume than everyone else. Anyone thinks the
> >> Scope mouth wash at Walmart is lower quality because it's priced less
> >> than elsewhere is nuts, probably having an eliptical fit... until
> >> today I didn't know the dwarf was in orbit, however aren't all dwarfs
> >> kinda ovate? LOL
> >
> > How long have you believed you are omniscient?
>
> an omniscient being would know how to spell 'epileptic.'

Sorry you didn't get the joke.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 11:47:46 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:55:58 -0400, George wrote:
>>
>> > On 6/4/2010 4:28 PM, brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Bullshit. Walmart can sell for less because they pay less because
>> >> they buy in greater volume than everyone else. Anyone thinks the
>> >> Scope mouth wash at Walmart is lower quality because it's priced less
>> >> than elsewhere is nuts, probably having an eliptical fit... until
>> >> today I didn't know the dwarf was in orbit, however aren't all dwarfs
>> >> kinda ovate? LOL
>> >
>> > How long have you believed you are omniscient?
>>
>> an omniscient being would know how to spell 'epileptic.'
>
>Sorry you didn't get the joke.

And the mick holds hisself out as some kinda woid wit... he's
obviously got the lowest IQ in all rfc... all usenet in fact. And
just when I think he can't get any more stupid, THIS! LOL-LOL

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:40:29 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 01:13:57 -0500, Em-E-Lit > wrote:
>
>> Stop living in my shadow. It's dark and gloomy in here. Get your
>> own life, Barbara. It may be brighter for you.
>
> Heh. That comes from one whose hobby is to morph. <slapping knee>
> Good one, Hayseed.

Shut the **** up you annoying bitch. I say that on behalf of the
whole group. You're stalking of me just gets kind of boring, you
know?

BTW, I noticed you didn't respond to my friend invitation on
Facebook <snork>. Oh well.

-sw

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:30:43 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Nancy2 > wrote:
>
>> My best grrrrrrr is for the Hormel pork in the butcher's case - it is
>> ALL injected, but when they pull 2 or 3 pork chops out from the
>> display window, there isn't any sign saying so - it's pretending to be
>> "real" pork. Fie on them.
>>
>> N.
>
> I refuse to buy Hormel pork. I get most of my pigmeat from the farmer
> who raises them. "It was walking on Thursday." :-)

Hormel has an unadulterated pork, too, if your grocer wished to
carry it.

HEB here in Texas has finally started to advertise the fact that
they don't carry injected meats (except in the case of obviously
marinated stuff).

I hope this isn't a pre-cursor to them doing so. It wouldn't be
the first time companies have pulled this (Like V8 Splash - used
to be 100% juice and they advertised it heavily - then a month
later it was 10-30% juice).

-sw

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 11:47:46 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:55:58 -0400, George wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/4/2010 4:28 PM, brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Walmart can sell for less because they pay less because
>>>> they buy in greater volume than everyone else. Anyone thinks the
>>>> Scope mouth wash at Walmart is lower quality because it's priced less
>>>> than elsewhere is nuts, probably having an eliptical fit... until
>>>> today I didn't know the dwarf was in orbit, however aren't all dwarfs
>>>> kinda ovate? LOL
>>>
>>> How long have you believed you are omniscient?
>>
>> an omniscient being would know how to spell 'epileptic.'
>
> Sorry you didn't get the joke.

i got the joke o.k. just kinda chiming in.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 15:21:54 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 11:47:46 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> blake murphy > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:55:58 -0400, George wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 6/4/2010 4:28 PM, brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Bullshit. Walmart can sell for less because they pay less because
>>> >> they buy in greater volume than everyone else. Anyone thinks the
>>> >> Scope mouth wash at Walmart is lower quality because it's priced less
>>> >> than elsewhere is nuts, probably having an eliptical fit... until
>>> >> today I didn't know the dwarf was in orbit, however aren't all dwarfs
>>> >> kinda ovate? LOL
>>> >
>>> > How long have you believed you are omniscient?
>>>
>>> an omniscient being would know how to spell 'epileptic.'
>>
>>Sorry you didn't get the joke.
>
> And the mick holds hisself out as some kinda woid wit... he's
> obviously got the lowest IQ in all rfc... all usenet in fact. And
> just when I think he can't get any more stupid, THIS! LOL-LOL

<derisive snort>

yeah, let's commiserate with ability.

blake

In article >,
Christine Dabney > wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 11:10:10 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >That's what I'm saying - I did not get my Cook's at Walmart and it is
> >23% water. :-( The Hormel tenderloins are up to 30% "flavor solution."
> >
>
> Ya know, that might be a good reason to learn to cure your own
> hams...LOL.
>
> Christine

Like *that's* on my bucket list. LOL! I know where I can get good ham
- for about 5 times the price of my $.88/lb Cook's brand ham. I've done
it and it was delicious but I'm too cheap to drop $45 on a half ham for
us unless it's at Easter.


--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures

Sqwertz > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:30:43 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
>> In article
>>
>> .com>,
>> Nancy2 > wrote:
>>
>>> My best grrrrrrr is for the Hormel pork in the butcher's
>>> case - it is ALL injected, but when they pull 2 or 3 pork
>>> chops out from the display window, there isn't any sign
>>> saying so - it's pretending to be "real" pork. Fie on them.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> I refuse to buy Hormel pork. I get most of my pigmeat from
>> the farmer who raises them. "It was walking on Thursday."
>> :-)
>
> Hormel has an unadulterated pork, too, if your grocer wished
> to carry it.
>
> HEB here in Texas has finally started to advertise the fact
> that they don't carry injected meats (except in the case of
> obviously marinated stuff).
>
> I hope this isn't a pre-cursor to them doing so. It wouldn't
> be the first time companies have pulled this (Like V8 Splash -
> used to be 100% juice and they advertised it heavily - then a
> month later it was 10-30% juice).
>
> -sw

Thank you. This is Great to know!!

On 06 Jun 2010 22:20:52 GMT, sandi wrote:

> Sqwertz > wrote in
> :
>
>> Hormel has an unadulterated pork, too, if your grocer wished
>> to carry it.
>>
>> HEB here in Texas has finally started to advertise the fact
>> that they don't carry injected meats (except in the case of
>> obviously marinated stuff).
>>
>> I hope this isn't a pre-cursor to them doing so. It wouldn't
>> be the first time companies have pulled this (Like V8 Splash -
>> used to be 100% juice and they advertised it heavily - then a
>> month later it was 10-30% juice).
>
> Thank you. This is Great to know!!

I'm not sure which part is 'great to know', but HEB has always
carried unadulterated pork (and beef). It's just that they're now
advertising it that worries me.

-sw