On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:03:25 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >,
> Christine Dabney > wrote:
>
>> Ya know, that might be a good reason to learn to cure your own
>> hams...LOL.
>
> Like *that's* on my bucket list. LOL!

Well, I know somebody sent you a few ounces of Bolner's Fiesta
Brand curing salt, but you'll have to wait until next year for the
smoker.

You can turn out some decent cured pork just by brine-curing a
pork loin, dry curing a pork butt. You'd be amazed how hammy
they'd taste without even smoking.

Don't be ascared.

-sw

On 6/6/2010 10:19 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On 06 Jun 2010 22:20:52 GMT, sandi wrote:
>
>> > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Hormel has an unadulterated pork, too, if your grocer wished
>>> to carry it.
>>>
>>> HEB here in Texas has finally started to advertise the fact
>>> that they don't carry injected meats (except in the case of
>>> obviously marinated stuff).
>>>
>>> I hope this isn't a pre-cursor to them doing so. It wouldn't
>>> be the first time companies have pulled this (Like V8 Splash -
>>> used to be 100% juice and they advertised it heavily - then a
>>> month later it was 10-30% juice).
>>
>> Thank you. This is Great to know!!
>
> I'm not sure which part is 'great to know', but HEB has always
> carried unadulterated pork (and beef). It's just that they're now
> advertising it that worries me.
>
> -sw

Remember wally and friends have lots of folks trained to think they are
wonderful. You can obviously make a lot more money selling adulterated
pork than normal pork and if you have your customers trained they don't
seem to care...

I don't know anything about HEB but they seem very similar in size to a
regional chain here. The chain is family owned, doesn't sell adulterated
meats and you will spend less than the megamart but they don't have the
marketing warchest of the mega places to point it out so they need to
target their advertising.

The regional chain here did similar marketing last year. There were lots
of billboards and similar advertising pointing out they don't sell
adulterated meat like the megaplaces. So far they are still honest.

On 6/7/2010 7:51 AM, George wrote:

> I don't know anything about HEB but they seem very similar in size to a
> regional chain here.


HEB is one of the things I really miss about Texas...... and one of the
reasons we would be happy to move back.

George L

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:22:11 -0500, George Leppla wrote:

> On 6/7/2010 7:51 AM, George wrote:
>
>> I don't know anything about HEB but they seem very similar in size to a
>> regional chain here.
>
> HEB is one of the things I really miss about Texas...... and one of the
> reasons we would be happy to move back.

When I shop in other states, I find myself always comparing them
to HEB. And not buying much of anything because of it.

HEB has stores in Louisiana but I'm not sure where.

-sw

On 6/7/2010 10:22 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:22:11 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>
>> On 6/7/2010 7:51 AM, George wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know anything about HEB but they seem very similar in size to a
>>> regional chain here.
>>
>> HEB is one of the things I really miss about Texas...... and one of the
>> reasons we would be happy to move back.
>
> When I shop in other states, I find myself always comparing them
> to HEB. And not buying much of anything because of it.
>
> HEB has stores in Louisiana but I'm not sure where.


The closest HEB to us here in Shreveport is in Carthage, TX...... about
a 40 minute drive. If we are over that way, we stop but that doesn't
happen often.

George L

On 6/7/2010 9:22 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 6/7/2010 7:51 AM, George wrote:
>
>> I don't know anything about HEB but they seem very similar in size to a
>> regional chain here.
>
>
> HEB is one of the things I really miss about Texas...... and one of the
> reasons we would be happy to move back.
>
> George L

We're probably going to move back to Tejas next year when DW retires,
finally, from teaching. We're looking at Livingston, TX and they have an
HEB and a Brookshire Brothers, both good grocers.

Our son worked, as a bag boy when he was a very young teen, at the HEB
in Corpus Christi, TX. Old Harold E. Butts done good when he started
selling groceries.

On 6/7/2010 10:27 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 6/7/2010 10:22 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:22:11 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/7/2010 7:51 AM, George wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know anything about HEB but they seem very similar in size to a
>>>> regional chain here.
>>>
>>> HEB is one of the things I really miss about Texas...... and one of the
>>> reasons we would be happy to move back.
>>
>> When I shop in other states, I find myself always comparing them
>> to HEB. And not buying much of anything because of it.
>>
>> HEB has stores in Louisiana but I'm not sure where.
>
>
> The closest HEB to us here in Shreveport is in Carthage, TX...... about
> a 40 minute drive. If we are over that way, we stop but that doesn't
> happen often.
>
> George L
>
There's one in Orange, TX, about a thirty minute drive from us but that
is inconvenient for shopping. We live in Sulphur, LA now.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:27:21 -0500, George Leppla wrote:

> On 6/7/2010 10:22 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:22:11 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/7/2010 7:51 AM, George wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know anything about HEB but they seem very similar in size to a
>>>> regional chain here.
>>>
>>> HEB is one of the things I really miss about Texas...... and one of the
>>> reasons we would be happy to move back.
>>
>> When I shop in other states, I find myself always comparing them
>> to HEB. And not buying much of anything because of it.
>>
>> HEB has stores in Louisiana but I'm not sure where.
>
> The closest HEB to us here in Shreveport is in Carthage, TX...... about
> a 40 minute drive. If we are over that way, we stop but that doesn't
> happen often.

It looks like the LA store closed in 2003. Didn't last long.

Interesting to note that HEB has 60% of the grocery market share
in Austin, 63% in San Antonio, and 100% in South Texas. That must
mean Walmart has less than 20% market share in Austin since we
also have Randalls, Whole Foods, Sprouts, Newflower, Sun Harvest,
Wheatsville, Natural Grocers,

Not wanting to lose face in North Texas, Walmart flooded Dallas/Ft
Worth with 125 superstores. 125? Yikes. I think Austin has
maybe 10 Walmarts. That just goes to show you how Evil Walmart
really is - they can afford to throw billions of dollars around
just out of spite. Those *******s. That injected water is raking
in the bucks.

It sure is nice to see Walmart scrambling for domination in the
face of such a lowly little privately-held company.

-sw

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:37:31 -0500, George Shirley wrote:

> We're probably going to move back to Tejas next year when DW retires,
> finally, from teaching. We're looking at Livingston, TX and they have an
> HEB and a Brookshire Brothers, both good grocers.

Hurry up and read their Wiki entry before it disappears:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookshire_Brothers

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message ...
| On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:37:31 -0500, George Shirley wrote:
|
| > We're probably going to move back to Tejas next year when DW retires,
| > finally, from teaching. We're looking at Livingston, TX and they have an
| > HEB and a Brookshire Brothers, both good grocers.
|
| Hurry up and read their Wiki entry before it disappears:
|
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookshire_Brothers

In a way or two it reminds me of Whole Foods.

pavane

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:02:08 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:37:31 -0500, George Shirley wrote:
>
>> We're probably going to move back to Tejas next year when DW retires,
>> finally, from teaching. We're looking at Livingston, TX and they have an
>> HEB and a Brookshire Brothers, both good grocers.
>
> Hurry up and read their Wiki entry before it disappears:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookshire_Brothers

I had to revert it back to it's original. But here's what it
said: (I wonder if it was in response to your post here??? It was
just done right after your post).


Brookshire Brothers Grocery (pronounced /ˈbrʊkʃər/) is an
outrageously overpriced supermarket retailer headquartered in
Lufkin, Texas.[1]

Brookshire Brothers operates 70 stores and abuses thousands of
employees under the names Brookshire Brothers and B&B Foods, and
seven stand-alone pharmacies in a market area covering Texas and
Louisiana.[citation needed]
[edit] Similarly named chain

Brookshire Brothers was founded in Lufkin in 1921 when Satan and
Adolph Hitler decided to go into the grocery business.[2]

Another East Texas grocery chain, Brookshire's, was originally
part of Brookshire Brothers. The companies split in 1937, when
Wood T. Brookshire realized it was extremely unethical to hire
incompetent, spineless management who abuse and exploit employees
and so he took control of the Tyler-area stores in exchange for
his share in the Brookshire Brothers partnership. Shop Wal-Mart.
It's cheaper. [3] The companies are no longer related except by
name.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message ...
| On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:02:08 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
|
| > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:37:31 -0500, George Shirley wrote:
| >
| >> We're probably going to move back to Tejas next year when DW retires,
| >> finally, from teaching. We're looking at Livingston, TX and they have an
| >> HEB and a Brookshire Brothers, both good grocers.
| >
| > Hurry up and read their Wiki entry before it disappears:
| >
| > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookshire_Brothers
|
| I had to revert it back to it's original. But here's what it
| said: (I wonder if it was in response to your post here??? It was
| just done right after your post).
|
|
| Brookshire Brothers Grocery (pronounced /'br?k??r/) is an
| outrageously overpriced supermarket retailer headquartered in
| Lufkin, Texas.[1]
|
| Brookshire Brothers operates 70 stores and abuses thousands of
| employees under the names Brookshire Brothers and B&B Foods, and
| seven stand-alone pharmacies in a market area covering Texas and
| Louisiana.[citation needed]
| [edit] Similarly named chain
|
| Brookshire Brothers was founded in Lufkin in 1921 when Satan and
| Adolph Hitler decided to go into the grocery business.[2]
|
| Another East Texas grocery chain, Brookshire's, was originally
| part of Brookshire Brothers. The companies split in 1937, when
| Wood T. Brookshire realized it was extremely unethical to hire
| incompetent, spineless management who abuse and exploit employees
| and so he took control of the Tyler-area stores in exchange for
| his share in the Brookshire Brothers partnership. Shop Wal-Mart.
| It's cheaper. [3] The companies are no longer related except by
| name.

That's what I just read, still there as of 1:15 pm edt.

pavane

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:07:22 -0400, pavane wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message ...
>| On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:37:31 -0500, George Shirley wrote:
>|
>|> We're probably going to move back to Tejas next year when DW retires,
>|> finally, from teaching. We're looking at Livingston, TX and they have an
>|> HEB and a Brookshire Brothers, both good grocers.
>|
>| Hurry up and read their Wiki entry before it disappears:
>|
>| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookshire_Brothers
>
> In a way or two it reminds me of Whole Foods.

I tried to send them a message that somebody was playing with
their page, but their customer service form doesn't work. So hell
with them if they don't want to know.

I don't know how to post on their facebook "wall" either and they
don't accept messages.

Good 'ol customer service at it's best, those losers.

-sw

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:18:55 -0400, pavane wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message ...
>| On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:02:08 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>|
>|> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:37:31 -0500, George Shirley wrote:
>|>
>|>> We're probably going to move back to Tejas next year when DW retires,
>|>> finally, from teaching. We're looking at Livingston, TX and they have an
>|>> HEB and a Brookshire Brothers, both good grocers.
>|>
>|> Hurry up and read their Wiki entry before it disappears:
>|>
>|> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookshire_Brothers
>|
>| I had to revert it back to it's original. But here's what it
>| said: (I wonder if it was in response to your post here??? It was
>| just done right after your post).
>|
>|
>| Brookshire Brothers Grocery (pronounced /'br?k??r/) is an
>| outrageously overpriced supermarket retailer headquartered in
>| Lufkin, Texas.[1]
>|
>| Brookshire Brothers operates 70 stores and abuses thousands of
>| employees under the names Brookshire Brothers and B&B Foods, and
>| seven stand-alone pharmacies in a market area covering Texas and
>| Louisiana.[citation needed]
>| [edit] Similarly named chain
>|
>| Brookshire Brothers was founded in Lufkin in 1921 when Satan and
>| Adolph Hitler decided to go into the grocery business.[2]
>|
>| Another East Texas grocery chain, Brookshire's, was originally
>| part of Brookshire Brothers. The companies split in 1937, when
>| Wood T. Brookshire realized it was extremely unethical to hire
>| incompetent, spineless management who abuse and exploit employees
>| and so he took control of the Tyler-area stores in exchange for
>| his share in the Brookshire Brothers partnership. Shop Wal-Mart.
>| It's cheaper. [3] The companies are no longer related except by
>| name.
>
> That's what I just read, still there as of 1:15 pm edt.

Clear your cache. It's back to normal for me. And I wrote on
their gawd damn "wall" (I had to "like" them first <lame>) about
their problem.

-sw

On 6/7/2010 12:08 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I had to revert it back to it's original. But here's what it
> said: (I wonder if it was in response to your post here??? It was
> just done right after your post).
>
>
> Brookshire Brothers Grocery (pronounced /ˈbrʊkʃər/) is an
> outrageously overpriced supermarket retailer headquartered in
> Lufkin, Texas.[1]
>
> Brookshire Brothers operates 70 stores and abuses thousands of
> employees under the names Brookshire Brothers and B&B Foods, and
> seven stand-alone pharmacies in a market area covering Texas and
> Louisiana.[citation needed]
> [edit] Similarly named chain
>
> Brookshire Brothers was founded in Lufkin in 1921 when Satan and
> Adolph Hitler decided to go into the grocery business.[2]
>
> Another East Texas grocery chain, Brookshire's, was originally
> part of Brookshire Brothers. The companies split in 1937, when
> Wood T. Brookshire realized it was extremely unethical to hire
> incompetent, spineless management who abuse and exploit employees
> and so he took control of the Tyler-area stores in exchange for
> his share in the Brookshire Brothers partnership. Shop Wal-Mart.
> It's cheaper. [3] The companies are no longer related except by
> name.
>

Like you mentioned, there are two different chains, Brookshire Brothers
and Brookshire's. We have a Brookshire's here, but we shop at Super 1
Foods, it is owned by a cousin of the Brookshire's. They have concrete
floors and you have to bag your own groceries, but I like the produce,
the meat and the prices. Much cheaper than Brookshire's.

http://super1foods.mywebgrocer.com/CircularMain.aspx

Becca

On Jun 4, 9:49*am, dsi1 > wrote:

>
> I wouldn't worry about it too much - meat is mostly water anyway.

But they add salt to keep the water in the meat (or it looks too
watery). So, you are really getting salt water. And there is no good
reason for it. They do it so that they can put a lower price per pound
on the label to mislead the buyer.

I would rather pay more per pound, get the same amount of meat, and
skip the salt.

wrote:
> On Jun 4, 9:49 am, dsi1 > wrote:
>
>>
>> I wouldn't worry about it too much - meat is mostly water anyway.
>
> But they add salt to keep the water in the meat (or it looks too
> watery). So, you are really getting salt water. And there is no good
> reason for it. They do it so that they can put a lower price per pound
> on the label to mislead the buyer.
>
> I would rather pay more per pound, get the same amount of meat, and
> skip the salt.

Really. And when you put chops/whatever in a pan and suddenly
it's swimming in all the water than comes pouring out, for myself,
I don't appreciate that at all.

nancy

On 6/7/2010 11:30 AM, wrote:
> On Jun 4, 9:49 am, > wrote:
>
>>
>> I wouldn't worry about it too much - meat is mostly water anyway.
>
> But they add salt to keep the water in the meat (or it looks too
> watery). So, you are really getting salt water. And there is no good
> reason for it. They do it so that they can put a lower price per pound
> on the label to mislead the buyer.
>
> I would rather pay more per pound, get the same amount of meat, and
> skip the salt.
>

Buying water injected meat has not been a problem for me - probably
because I don't go for cured meats. I do admit to having a nasty habit
of adding water to my meatloaf and think that Sandra Lee is OK. :-)

"Nancy Young" > wrote in
news:gyePn.27452$on1.13962@hurricane:

>> I would rather pay more per pound, get the same amount of
>> meat, and skip the salt.
>
> Really. And when you put chops/whatever in a pan and suddenly
> it's swimming in all the water than comes pouring out, for
> myself, I don't appreciate that at all.

I buy from a reputable butcher shop, of which there are a dozen or
so in the Ottawa area. Never had that problem with any of the meat
I bought there.

http://www.ottawaplus.ca/ottawa/venu...e-meat-market?
set_language=en

or

http://tinyurl.com/249k5gc

and

http://www.saslovesmeat.com/wellington.html

--

"When a government starts to cancel dissent or avoid dissent
is frankly when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to
govern."

Stephen Harper, 18 April 2005

On 6/7/2010 6:39 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> wrote:
>> On Jun 4, 9:49 am, dsi1 > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't worry about it too much - meat is mostly water anyway.
>>
>> But they add salt to keep the water in the meat (or it looks too
>> watery). So, you are really getting salt water. And there is no good
>> reason for it. They do it so that they can put a lower price per pound
>> on the label to mislead the buyer.
>>
>> I would rather pay more per pound, get the same amount of meat, and
>> skip the salt.
>
> Really. And when you put chops/whatever in a pan and suddenly
> it's swimming in all the water than comes pouring out, for myself,
> I don't appreciate that at all.
> nancy

Sounds like you need to get with the program. Big box tells us they are
our friend and are looking out for us and all that...

Michel Boucher wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> Really. And when you put chops/whatever in a pan and suddenly
>> it's swimming in all the water than comes pouring out, for
>> myself, I don't appreciate that at all.
>
> I buy from a reputable butcher shop, of which there are a dozen or
> so in the Ottawa area. Never had that problem with any of the meat
> I bought there.

Even in the stores (supermarkets) where I shop, they have
un"enhanced" chops, you just need to watch what you're buying.
I don't shop at WalMart, never mind for food. In the past, before
I knew what was going on, I found myself facing a pan of
waterlogged chops, that's how I learned.

My comment was in response to someone who said, essentially,
what's the big deal, meat has water anyway. When I can't make
pork chops and kale because there's a lake in my pan, then
something's lost and that's why it's a big deal to me.

nancy