On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:31:24 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

> In their haste to attack
> anything that moves, they may have turned me onto a product that I would
> be interested in. Thanks!
>
> BEANITOS!!!! That's B-E-A-N-I-T-O-S! http://www.beanitos.com/ Try
> them and tell me how you like them.

I'm curious too, plus I will give a head's up to my DIL who is gluten
intolerant.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> MikeATX wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 7, 12:26 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > > MikeATX wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Jun 6, 5:21 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I think he should have revealed himself as a sales rep too, but it's
> > > > > still not going to turn me off of the product.
> > >
> > > > > _I_ posted it in good faith! I have no financial ties with Beanitos.
> > >
> > > > We like to respond to all posts on the web. We are a newly launched
> > > > product, and want to make sure our consumers are receiving the right
> > > > iformation.
> > >
> > > But you're doing it through deception.
> > > No honest company would use such a sleazy marketing tactic.
> > > A good company would wish to protect their reputation,
> > > but a bad company has nothing to lose.
> >
> > Im still not sure where you think it was deceptive. Stating facts
> > about the corn industry is not deceptive. Either way, we apologize
> > that you felt like we were deceptive. Have a great day, and thank you
> > to everyone else that chooses to support a product that goes against
> > mainstream corn chips that tastes great and is actually good for you.
>
> You are a slimeball. No honest company would
> employ a slimeball like you. An honest company
> doesn't need to send undercover promoters onto
> the Internet. An honest company earns customers
> through hard work and producing a good product,
> not through deception.

Oh please Mark! Any company worth their salt is going to keep track of
any internet postings relating to their product.

Have you no sense at all?

For what it's worth, I heard about this product on KLBJ radio Austin.
They said that HEB, our local major grocery store chain was carrying it.
It piqued my curiosity so I went looking for it.

I love a good crunchy treat as much as anyone else but due to weight
control issues, try to eat healthy most of the time and this sounded
like a healthy snack.

I bought some and they were not only tasty, but satisfying in small
amounts. Unlike corn crap like Pringles, I was was not the least bit
tempted to eat the whole damned bag in one sitting.

These really are a good product and if you choose to reject them because
a sales rep did not outright spam them, (I'm pretty sure he'd have been
screwed one way or the other knowing THIS group), then it's your loss.

I love them, have no financial ties with the company, so will continue
to shill them with a free conciense. <G>

And no, they've not offered me coupons yet, even tho' this e-mail
works... HINT HINT HINT! <lol>
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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:20:45 -0700, Mark Thorson >
> wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:20:21 -0700 (PDT), MikeATX
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm sorry you feel that way, and I was simply stating the facts. Thank
> > > > you all for your continued support. I never tried to decieve anyone,
> > > > but sometimes its best hearing it from the source. I'm just happy to
> > > > help keep the facts straight.
> > >
> > > So, Mike, how did you hear about usenet? Most people these days don't
> > > even know it exists.
> >
> > He probably read about it in the Spamming For Dummies book.
>
> I really do want to know, Mark. It wasn't a trick question.

I'm curious too, but I've seen this before.
Most good marketing departments pay close attention and probably have
keyword 'bots running looking for references to their products.

But that's just a guess on my part.
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In article >, Becca >
wrote:

> On 6/7/2010 10:39 AM, MikeATX wrote:
> > We like to respond to all posts on the web. We are a newly launched
> > product, and want to make sure our consumers are receiving the right
> > information.
> >
>
> If you want to be helpful, please bring Beanitos to Louisiana. I looked
> on Amazon.com, Beanitos are listed, but not available.
>
> Louisiana is not that far. Speaking of Austin products, I did find
> Austinuts here in Shreveport. I ate some today.
>
> http://store.austinuts.com/shopsite_...tml/index.html
>
> Becca

It takes time for some new products to spread, if they survive. <g>
Thanks for the above. I was not aware of it.

Want me to mail you some Beanitos in the mean time?
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In article >,
George > wrote:

> > We like to respond to all posts on the web. We are a newly launched
> > product, and want to make sure our consumers are receiving the right
> > information.
>
> But in a dishonest fashion. If you were interested in promoting yourself
> in an honest fashion you would have made known that you were the
> marketing manager for the product.

Why? It was easy enough to find out, and he never DENIED having
financial ties to the company.

He never lied.
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In article >,
George > wrote:

> After spending many years in corporate America and still dealing with
> marketing folks "from the outside" I wouldn't think you would. It would
> have been a breath of fresh air if you actually revealed who you were.

He's probably still in his 20's. <g> Far too trusting...
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In article >,
George Leppla > wrote:

> On 6/7/2010 12:33 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> >
> > It's a civil offense. If the FTC decides to act,
> > they would seek $10,000 per violation in civil
> > court.
>
> Some people need to chill out. This guy didn't start the discussion, he
> never promoted the product, never mentioned a price, never solicited
> orders and other than an email address, never posted any contact
> information. I don't think he even mentioned the name of the company.
> The only thing he did was post some product information about something
> that someone else brought up.... and gave his opinion.
>
> I am as anti-spam as the next guy, but you guys are making a mountain
> out of a mole hill.
>
> Here, I'll give you something to whine about. Hey everyone, go look at
> http://www.beanitos.com/ and learn all about a new product. I've never
> tried them, I've never bought them but I hear they are different and you
> might like them.
>
> PS: Disclaimer..... I sell cruises for a living but as far as I know,
> Beanitos have not been served on any of the cruise ships I have been on.
> and another PS..... if it hadn't been for anti-spammers making such a
> fuss, I probably wouldn't know about Beanitos! In their haste to attack
> anything that moves, they may have turned me onto a product that I would
> be interested in. Thanks!
>
> BEANITOS!!!! That's B-E-A-N-I-T-O-S! http://www.beanitos.com/ Try
> them and tell me how you like them.
>
> George L
>
> BEANITOS!!!!! The corn chip substitute...... accept no substitutions!
> http://www.beanitos.com/

ROFL!!! Thanks for the levity George! ;-D

I sell Kinesiology tape (or will as soon as I finish my website and the
inventory comes in from China....) so also have no financial interest in
them.

All I know is that they taste damned good and their nutritional
breakdown on the label is acceptable.

And it's freakin' ON TOPIC!
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In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT), MikeATX wrote:
>
> > Im still not sure where you think it was deceptive.
>
> When you come in here touting a product like you did, it's
> customary to tell people that you have an interest it's in success
> - such as being their marketing manager. If you don't, then it
> comes off as deceptive.
>
> Usenet is a pretty hardcore, old-school, internet group discussion
> technology. And most of us have been around a while and have seen
> all sorts of ruses. We generally poo-poo the modern, moderated
> discussion forums and police ourselves (and bite the heads of off
> those that **** us off).
>
> -sw

'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
thread, not him! And I have no financial interest in Beanitos.

Just taste and nutritional stake.
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In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:31:24 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>
> > I am as anti-spam as the next guy, but you guys are making a mountain
> > out of a mole hill.
>
> Nah, it's just Mark that's doing that. The rest of us are just
> doing our usual whining.
>
> -sw

Usenet dynamics...<G> Gotta love it!

Bunch of cynics. ALL of us!
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Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-AE2C5D.21561207062010
@news-wc.giganews.com:


>
> 'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
> thread, not him!


A quick Google check confirms this...... but that won't stop the likes of
spurtz from twisting the facts to suit itself.



> And I have no financial interest in Beanitos.
>
> Just taste and nutritional stake.


I wonder how long before they come over here?



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

First Law of Leftist Debate.......
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:



> I bought some and they were not only tasty, but satisfying in small
> amounts. Unlike corn crap like Pringles,

Corn? I dislike Pringles, but thought they were potato, or fake potato,
or something:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pringles

"Pringles is a brand of potato snacks"

A little farther down, there is some mention of corn (and black beans).

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:31:24 -0500, George Leppla
> > wrote:
>
> > In their haste to attack
> > anything that moves, they may have turned me onto a product that I would
> > be interested in. Thanks!
> >
> > BEANITOS!!!! That's B-E-A-N-I-T-O-S! http://www.beanitos.com/ Try
> > them and tell me how you like them.
>
> I'm curious too, plus I will give a head's up to my DIL who is gluten
> intolerant.

<laughs> The nay-sayers just made it more interesting, no?
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In article >,
PL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-AE2C5D.21561207062010
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
>
> >
> > 'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
> > thread, not him!
>
>
> A quick Google check confirms this...... but that won't stop the likes of
> spurtz from twisting the facts to suit itself.
>
>
>
> > And I have no financial interest in Beanitos.
> >
> > Just taste and nutritional stake.
>
>
> I wonder how long before they come over here?

I understand they are a new product.
Sometimes it takes awhile for something, even this good, to take some
time.
Offer me something equal might take a bit.

We both hate the AUS postage rates!
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In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:56:12 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Sqwertz > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT), MikeATX wrote:
> >>
> >>> Im still not sure where you think it was deceptive.
> >>
> >> When you come in here touting a product like you did, it's
> >> customary to tell people that you have an interest it's in success
> >> - such as being their marketing manager. If you don't, then it
> >> comes off as deceptive.
> >>
> >> Usenet is a pretty hardcore, old-school, internet group discussion
> >> technology. And most of us have been around a while and have seen
> >> all sorts of ruses. We generally poo-poo the modern, moderated
> >> discussion forums and police ourselves (and bite the heads of off
> >> those that **** us off).
> >
> > 'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
> > thread, not him!
>
> Yes, Dear, I know that. I never said otherwise. *His* first two
> posts here were promoting the product (as was yours).
>
> Why don't you direct your anger at those other threads.
>
> -sw

Because I have no issue with him.
While he may not have declared he was a sales rep, he also did not say
he was not.

He told no lies.

I seriously do hate liars. I think I've published why in the past.
I really don't understand why others have such an issue with him.

While I am glad you revealed him as a salesman, he never did deny it?

Perhaps it is semantics...

I apologize for not getting together with you as I am still in Austin
(this week at Dell) but that f-ing 90 plus degree weather when I get off
work is discouraging and I still have not wanted to spring for the money
to fix my AC.

I truly am sorry...
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In article >,
Sqwerts > wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:04:28 GMT, PL wrote:
>
> > Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-AE2C5D.21561207062010
> > @news-wc.giganews.com:
> >
> >>
> >> 'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
> >> thread, not him!
> >
> > A quick Google check confirms this...... but that won't stop the likes of
> > spurtz from twisting the facts to suit itself.
>
> Ahem. What is this, Peter and Om?
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...hread/ea6eedf8
> a219ebd3#>{
>
> Gee, is that a thread started by Mike of Beanitos promoting the
> product? I do believe it is.
>
> You really suck at that Google thing, Peter.
>
> -sw

You know Steve that I happen to like you both, so please quit trying to
drag me in to your spats.

You are both big boys and can handle it on your own. ;-)
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:41:43 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

> <laughs> The nay-sayers just made it more interesting, no?

Like George, I would have just passed it w/o really noticing except
they kicked the subject around and kept it alive, so I finally paid
attention. Seems like a product worth giving a try - if I ever see it
here.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:56:12 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>>
>> > In article >,
>> > Sqwertz > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT), MikeATX wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Im still not sure where you think it was deceptive.
>> >>
>> >> When you come in here touting a product like you did, it's
>> >> customary to tell people that you have an interest it's in success
>> >> - such as being their marketing manager. If you don't, then it
>> >> comes off as deceptive.
>> >>
>> >> Usenet is a pretty hardcore, old-school, internet group discussion
>> >> technology. And most of us have been around a while and have seen
>> >> all sorts of ruses. We generally poo-poo the modern, moderated
>> >> discussion forums and police ourselves (and bite the heads of off
>> >> those that **** us off).
>> >
>> > 'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
>> > thread, not him!
>>
>> Yes, Dear, I know that. I never said otherwise. *His* first two
>> posts here were promoting the product (as was yours).
>>
>> Why don't you direct your anger at those other threads.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Because I have no issue with him.
> While he may not have declared he was a sales rep, he also did not say
> he was not.
>
> He told no lies.
>
(snip)
> --

That's called lying by omission.

Jinx

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I bought some and they were not only tasty, but satisfying in small
> > amounts. Unlike corn crap like Pringles,
>
> Corn? I dislike Pringles, but thought they were potato, or fake potato,
> or something:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pringles
>
> "Pringles is a brand of potato snacks"
>
> A little farther down, there is some mention of corn (and black beans).

They are primarily potato, but not 100%.
Pringles are something I avoid because I like them too much.

I know that that is Ironic. <g>
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In article >,
"Jinx Minx" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > Sqwertz > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:56:12 -0500, Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article >,
> >> > Sqwertz > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT), MikeATX wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Im still not sure where you think it was deceptive.
> >> >>
> >> >> When you come in here touting a product like you did, it's
> >> >> customary to tell people that you have an interest it's in success
> >> >> - such as being their marketing manager. If you don't, then it
> >> >> comes off as deceptive.
> >> >>
> >> >> Usenet is a pretty hardcore, old-school, internet group discussion
> >> >> technology. And most of us have been around a while and have seen
> >> >> all sorts of ruses. We generally poo-poo the modern, moderated
> >> >> discussion forums and police ourselves (and bite the heads of off
> >> >> those that **** us off).
> >> >
> >> > 'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
> >> > thread, not him!
> >>
> >> Yes, Dear, I know that. I never said otherwise. *His* first two
> >> posts here were promoting the product (as was yours).
> >>
> >> Why don't you direct your anger at those other threads.
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> > Because I have no issue with him.
> > While he may not have declared he was a sales rep, he also did not say
> > he was not.
> >
> > He told no lies.
> >
> (snip)
> > --
>
> That's called lying by omission.
>
> Jinx

Only to nit pickers.
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In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> Lets review this:
>
> Uh, you just claimed that *you* started the thread promoting the
> product (contrary to something I posted which didn't refer to
> either of you in the least). And then Peter hopped on your
> delusional bandwagon.
>
> And then I showed you that you what I was referring to (which he
> did twice) and that you are *both* wrong.
>
> *YOU* started this one completely out of the blue, Om. And
> you'll still refuse to go back and look at this thread and see
> where you ****ed up, and continue to carry on your stupidity
> without missing a beat.
>
> You just don't have a clue what's going on around you. Are you
> *really* this dumb or are you on drugs?
>
> -sw

I've no idea what you are talking about Steve.
I innocently started a new thread out of the blue. I think that's kinda
normal.

It's a product I heard about on the radio and decided to try. I tried
it, liked it and posted about it.

What the hell is wrong with that?
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On 6/7/2010 10:12 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/6/2010 7:29 PM, Omelet wrote:
>>> In >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> _I_ posted it in good faith! I have no financial ties with Beanitos.
>>>>
>>>> He is the marketing manager. Marketing droids are 10 notches lower than
>>>> sales droids. Marketing droids are very similar to sleazy politicians.
>>>> Marketing droids are the ones who create spin about their product or
>>>> service however they can.
>>>
>>> Hey, it's his job. Why is that a problem?
>>> Please enlighten me...
>>
>> I don't care for folks who lie for a living...
>
> He did not lie.
> He did not say he was NOT a sales rep.

Its called "lying by omission"

"Lying by omission

One lies by omission by omitting an important fact, deliberately leaving
another person with a misconception. Lying by omission includes failures
to correct pre-existing misconceptions. An example is when the seller of
a car declares it has been serviced regularly but does not tell that a
fault was reported at the last service. Propaganda is an example of
lying by omission."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie#Lying_by_omission

>
> What the hell is wrong with you people? Geeze!

On 6/7/2010 10:42 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> Mark > wrote:
>
>> MikeATX wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 7, 12:26 pm, Mark > wrote:
>>>> MikeATX wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 6, 5:21 pm, > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I think he should have revealed himself as a sales rep too, but it's
>>>>>> still not going to turn me off of the product.
>>>>
>>>>>> _I_ posted it in good faith! I have no financial ties with Beanitos.
>>>>
>>>>> We like to respond to all posts on the web. We are a newly launched
>>>>> product, and want to make sure our consumers are receiving the right
>>>>> iformation.
>>>>
>>>> But you're doing it through deception.
>>>> No honest company would use such a sleazy marketing tactic.
>>>> A good company would wish to protect their reputation,
>>>> but a bad company has nothing to lose.
>>>
>>> Im still not sure where you think it was deceptive. Stating facts
>>> about the corn industry is not deceptive. Either way, we apologize
>>> that you felt like we were deceptive. Have a great day, and thank you
>>> to everyone else that chooses to support a product that goes against
>>> mainstream corn chips that tastes great and is actually good for you.
>>
>> You are a slimeball. No honest company would
>> employ a slimeball like you. An honest company
>> doesn't need to send undercover promoters onto
>> the Internet. An honest company earns customers
>> through hard work and producing a good product,
>> not through deception.
>
> Oh please Mark! Any company worth their salt is going to keep track of
> any internet postings relating to their product.
>

That would typically be done by the marketing department. Thats the
department the poster didn't say he was the manager of..

> Have you no sense at all?
>
> For what it's worth, I heard about this product on KLBJ radio Austin.
> They said that HEB, our local major grocery store chain was carrying it.
> It piqued my curiosity so I went looking for it.
>
> I love a good crunchy treat as much as anyone else but due to weight
> control issues, try to eat healthy most of the time and this sounded
> like a healthy snack.
>
> I bought some and they were not only tasty, but satisfying in small
> amounts. Unlike corn crap like Pringles, I was was not the least bit
> tempted to eat the whole damned bag in one sitting.
>
> These really are a good product and if you choose to reject them because
> a sales rep did not outright spam them, (I'm pretty sure he'd have been
> screwed one way or the other knowing THIS group), then it's your loss.
>
> I love them, have no financial ties with the company, so will continue
> to shill them with a free conciense.<G>
>
> And no, they've not offered me coupons yet, even tho' this e-mail
> works... HINT HINT HINT!<lol>

On 6/7/2010 10:50 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> After spending many years in corporate America and still dealing with
>> marketing folks "from the outside" I wouldn't think you would. It would
>> have been a breath of fresh air if you actually revealed who you were.
>
> He's probably still in his 20's.<g> Far too trusting...

Age has nothing to do with it. Some people are good at lying and they
fit well into marketing or politics.

On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:31:42 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

> They are primarily potato, but not 100%.
> Pringles are something I avoid because I like them too much.
>

Pringles for me, are like cigarettes for certain smokers who say
they've quit but bum them off of others. IOW, I don't buy them but I
certainly don't turn it down when offered. As a result, I haven't had
a can in hand to read the ingredient list. They crunch and taste like
reconstituted mashed potatoes to me, so I'm surprised to hear they
have beans and corn in them. Not shocked, horrified or repulsed, just
surprised.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:20:21 -0700 (PDT), MikeATX wrote:

> On Jun 6, 3:41*pm, "J. Clarke" > wrote:
>> On 6/6/2010 2:48 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>
>>> MikeATX wrote:
>>
>>>> If you breakdown Beanitos per serving it's only 67 cents. I am willing
>>>> to spend that to support something other than corn chips. Because corn
>>>> chips already have the upper hand in the form of 18 billion per year
>>>> in corn subsidies to the farmers that grow the corn for the chips.
>>
>>>> All in all we are use to those lower prices for chips because of these
>>>> subsidies that will run out in 5 years. I say support the companies
>>>> that are willing to go the extra mile for our health and not have to
>>>> take handouts from our government which is really our pockets as the
>>>> American taxpayer!
>>
>>> Two violations.
>>
>> The fact that you see neglecting to tell someone that you are a salesman
>> before discussing a product as a criminal offense tells us more about
>> you than about the person with whom you are conversing, and what it says
>> about you is not particularly pleasant.
>
> I'm sorry you feel that way, and I was simply stating the facts. Thank
> you all for your continued support. I never tried to decieve anyone,
> but sometimes its best hearing it from the source. I'm just happy to
> help keep the facts straight.

'keeping the facts straight' should have included the fact that you are an
employee of one of 'the companies that are willing to go the extra mile for
our health and not have to take handouts from our government which is
really our pockets as the American taxpayer!'

blake

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:42:03 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
>> MikeATX wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 7, 12:26 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>> > MikeATX wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On Jun 6, 5:21 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > I think he should have revealed himself as a sales rep too, but it's
>>> > > > still not going to turn me off of the product.
>>> >
>>> > > > _I_ posted it in good faith! I have no financial ties with Beanitos.
>>> >
>>> > > We like to respond to all posts on the web. We are a newly launched
>>> > > product, and want to make sure our consumers are receiving the right
>>> > > iformation.
>>> >
>>> > But you're doing it through deception.
>>> > No honest company would use such a sleazy marketing tactic.
>>> > A good company would wish to protect their reputation,
>>> > but a bad company has nothing to lose.
>>>
>>> Im still not sure where you think it was deceptive. Stating facts
>>> about the corn industry is not deceptive. Either way, we apologize
>>> that you felt like we were deceptive. Have a great day, and thank you
>>> to everyone else that chooses to support a product that goes against
>>> mainstream corn chips that tastes great and is actually good for you.
>>
>> You are a slimeball. No honest company would
>> employ a slimeball like you. An honest company
>> doesn't need to send undercover promoters onto
>> the Internet. An honest company earns customers
>> through hard work and producing a good product,
>> not through deception.
>
> Oh please Mark! Any company worth their salt is going to keep track of
> any internet postings relating to their product.
>
> Have you no sense at all?

you see nothing wrong with an employee posing as an ordinary joe touting
the product and the company as some kind of idealistic entity?

blake

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:33:09 -0500, Sqwerts wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:04:28 GMT, PL wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-AE2C5D.21561207062010
>> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>>
>>>
>>> 'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
>>> thread, not him!
>>
>> A quick Google check confirms this...... but that won't stop the likes of
>> spurtz from twisting the facts to suit itself.
>
> Ahem. What is this, Peter and Om?
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/browse_thread/thread/ea6eedf8a219ebd3#>{
>
> Gee, is that a thread started by Mike of Beanitos promoting the
> product? I do believe it is.
>
> You really suck at that Google thing, Peter.
>
> -sw

you have a suspicious nature but i applaud your google-fu. the business of
righteously not accepting corn subsidies should have tipped me off that he
was a company man. good work.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:59:04 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:36:51 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>
>> I've no idea what you are talking about Steve.
>
> No Shit Sherlock! And heaven forbid you'd actually read any of
> the posts and click on the link I provided!
>
> I also predicted:
>
>>> And you'll still refuse to go back and look at this thread and see
>>> where you ****ed up, and continue to carry on your stupidity
>>> without missing a beat.
>
> Did I call this, or did I call this? I must have ESP!
>
> I'll slow down now. This is almost as sad as our throwing eggs at
> the short bus when it passed by in the morning. But in our
> defense they were Catholic school students, not retarded folks.
>
> -sw

there's a rude joke to be made along the lines of 'there's a difference?',
but i will refrain.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:02:24 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:56:12 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT), MikeATX wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Im still not sure where you think it was deceptive.
>>>>
>>>> When you come in here touting a product like you did, it's
>>>> customary to tell people that you have an interest it's in success
>>>> - such as being their marketing manager. If you don't, then it
>>>> comes off as deceptive.
>>>>
>>>> Usenet is a pretty hardcore, old-school, internet group discussion
>>>> technology. And most of us have been around a while and have seen
>>>> all sorts of ruses. We generally poo-poo the modern, moderated
>>>> discussion forums and police ourselves (and bite the heads of off
>>>> those that **** us off).
>>>
>>> 'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
>>> thread, not him!
>>
>> Yes, Dear, I know that. I never said otherwise. *His* first two
>> posts here were promoting the product (as was yours).
>>
>> Why don't you direct your anger at those other threads.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Because I have no issue with him.
> While he may not have declared he was a sales rep, he also did not say
> he was not.
>
> He told no lies.
>
> I seriously do hate liars. I think I've published why in the past.
> I really don't understand why others have such an issue with him.
>
> While I am glad you revealed him as a salesman, he never did deny it?
>
> Perhaps it is semantics...

what the **** are you talking about, he never did deny it? no one asked
him, and he didn't tell. steve outed him.

blake

On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:34:38 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> "Jinx Minx" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> In article >,
>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:56:12 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > In article >,
>>>> > Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT), MikeATX wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Im still not sure where you think it was deceptive.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> When you come in here touting a product like you did, it's
>>>> >> customary to tell people that you have an interest it's in success
>>>> >> - such as being their marketing manager. If you don't, then it
>>>> >> comes off as deceptive.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Usenet is a pretty hardcore, old-school, internet group discussion
>>>> >> technology. And most of us have been around a while and have seen
>>>> >> all sorts of ruses. We generally poo-poo the modern, moderated
>>>> >> discussion forums and police ourselves (and bite the heads of off
>>>> >> those that **** us off).
>>>> >
>>>> > 'scuse me Stevie baby, but Iirc, _I_ am the one that started the damned
>>>> > thread, not him!
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Dear, I know that. I never said otherwise. *His* first two
>>>> posts here were promoting the product (as was yours).
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you direct your anger at those other threads.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Because I have no issue with him.
>>> While he may not have declared he was a sales rep, he also did not say
>>> he was not.
>>>
>>> He told no lies.
>>>
>> (snip)
>>> --
>>
>> That's called lying by omission.
>>
>> Jinx
>
> Only to nit pickers.

jesus.

blake

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:25:50 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
>> MikeATX wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 6, 5:21 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I think he should have revealed himself as a sales rep too, but it's
>>> > still not going to turn me off of the product.
>>> >
>>> > _I_ posted it in good faith! I have no financial ties with Beanitos.
>>>
>>> We like to respond to all posts on the web. We are a newly launched
>>> product, and want to make sure our consumers are receiving the right
>>> information.
>>
>> But you're doing it through deception.
>> No honest company would use such a sleazy marketing tactic.
>> A good company would wish to protect their reputation,
>> but a bad company has nothing to lose.
>
> Oh gods... It's only objectionable due to the typical snobbishness found
> on usenet!
>
> He never said he did NOT have any ties in the company so never did lie!
>
> Geeze...

this is exceptionally simple-minded.

blake

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:33:00 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:41:08 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/6/2010 2:48 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>> MikeATX wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you breakdown Beanitos per serving it's only 67 cents. I am willing
>>>>> to spend that to support something other than corn chips. Because corn
>>>>> chips already have the upper hand in the form of 18 billion per year
>>>>> in corn subsidies to the farmers that grow the corn for the chips.
>>>>>
>>>>> All in all we are use to those lower prices for chips because of these
>>>>> subsidies that will run out in 5 years. I say support the companies
>>>>> that are willing to go the extra mile for our health and not have to
>>>>> take handouts from our government which is really our pockets as the
>>>>> American taxpayer!
>>>>
>>>> Two violations.
>>>
>>> The fact that you see neglecting to tell someone that you are a salesman
>>> before discussing a product as a criminal offense tells us more about
>>> you than about the person with whom you are conversing, and what it says
>>> about you is not particularly pleasant.
>>
>> it may not be criminal, but it is unethical.
>
> It's a civil offense. If the FTC decides to act,
> they would seek $10,000 per violation in civil
> court.

i'd expect the odds of that happening are about the same as stu's lawsuit
against the cartoon character succeeding. but it's unquestionably sleazy.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:49:00 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> George > wrote:
>
>>> We like to respond to all posts on the web. We are a newly launched
>>> product, and want to make sure our consumers are receiving the right
>>> information.
>>
>> But in a dishonest fashion. If you were interested in promoting yourself
>> in an honest fashion you would have made known that you were the
>> marketing manager for the product.
>
> Why? It was easy enough to find out, and he never DENIED having
> financial ties to the company.
>
> He never lied.

so, om, is it o.k. with you when drive-by posters drop in to say 'i've come
across this great web site...' when they are the site owner but post here
under a different name? if not, what is the difference?

blake

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:30:25 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:41:08 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/6/2010 2:48 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>> MikeATX wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you breakdown Beanitos per serving it's only 67 cents. I am willing
>>>>> to spend that to support something other than corn chips. Because corn
>>>>> chips already have the upper hand in the form of 18 billion per year
>>>>> in corn subsidies to the farmers that grow the corn for the chips.
>>>>>
>>>>> All in all we are use to those lower prices for chips because of these
>>>>> subsidies that will run out in 5 years. I say support the companies
>>>>> that are willing to go the extra mile for our health and not have to
>>>>> take handouts from our government which is really our pockets as the
>>>>> American taxpayer!
>>>>
>>>> Two violations.
>>>
>>> The fact that you see neglecting to tell someone that you are a salesman
>>> before discussing a product as a criminal offense tells us more about
>>> you than about the person with whom you are conversing, and what it says
>>> about you is not particularly pleasant.
>>
>> it may not be criminal, but it is unethical.
>>
>> blake
>
> Why?
>
> I saw no lies in his post. Not one.
>
> Ok, I'm defending him and the product because it's revolutionary.
> Delicious and unlike most crispy crunchy tasty snack foods, it actually
> has some nutritional value rather than being pure empty trash calories.
>
> It's why I started the thread in the first place!
>
> Beanitos are tasty, and they are healthy! How many snack foods can
> claim that?
>
> I'm personally thrilled to find something like this available. And I
> hope to gods they investigate black soy beans! They are even more
> superior nutrition-wise, and quite tasty.

for god's sake, we're not talking about the product, we're talking about
the sales tactic.

blake

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:14:15 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article
> >,
> MikeATX > wrote:
>
>> On Jun 6, 3:41*pm, "J. Clarke" > wrote:
>>> On 6/6/2010 2:48 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>
>>> > MikeATX wrote:
>>>
>>> >> If you breakdown Beanitos per serving it's only 67 cents. I am willing
>>> >> to spend that to support something other than corn chips. Because corn
>>> >> chips already have the upper hand in the form of 18 billion per year
>>> >> in corn subsidies to the farmers that grow the corn for the chips.
>>>
>>> >> All in all we are use to those lower prices for chips because of these
>>> >> subsidies that will run out in 5 years. I say support the companies
>>> >> that are willing to go the extra mile for our health and not have to
>>> >> take handouts from our government which is really our pockets as the
>>> >> American taxpayer!
>>>
>>> > Two violations.
>>>
>>> The fact that you see neglecting to tell someone that you are a salesman
>>> before discussing a product as a criminal offense tells us more about
>>> you than about the person with whom you are conversing, and what it says
>>> about you is not particularly pleasant.
>>
>> I'm sorry you feel that way, and I was simply stating the facts. Thank
>> you all for your continued support. I never tried to decieve anyone,
>> but sometimes its best hearing it from the source. I'm just happy to
>> help keep the facts straight.
>
> It's usenet Mike. ;-) People here are bored so look for petty reasons
> to take offense. <G> It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is.
>
> Next time, try either being up front and saying who you are

now you're almost getting it...

> or post
> using a nyme and a different computer account.

....then you turn around and give him advice on how to more effectively
deceive people. geez, indeed.

blake

On 6/8/2010 5:31 AM, Omelet wrote:
> They are primarily potato, but not 100%.
> Pringles are something I avoid because I like them too much.
>
> I know that that is Ironic.<g>
>

The only time I buy Pringle's is when I am traveling, because I don't
want smushed potato chips. I am more of a salty eater than a sweet
eater, but I do like both.

Becca

On 6/7/2010 9:47 PM, Omelet wrote:
> It takes time for some new products to spread, if they survive.<g>
> Thanks for the above. I was not aware of it.
>
> Want me to mail you some Beanitos in the mean time?
>

Beaniti*s will get here eventually (I changed the spelling to defy
Google alerts). Thanks for the offer, but we will visit HEB and see if
we can find it. We like shopping there, although it is 45 minutes away.

Becca

blake murphy wrote:
>
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:33:00 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:
> >
> > It's a civil offense. If the FTC decides to act,
> > they would seek $10,000 per violation in civil
> > court.
>
> i'd expect the odds of that happening are about the same as stu's lawsuit
> against the cartoon character succeeding. but it's unquestionably sleazy.

Probably so, but the complaint has been submitted.
I only spent a few minutes on it, so it's not a big deal
if they don't act. But there's always a chance they will.

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:36:51 -0500, Omelet wrote:
>
> > I've no idea what you are talking about Steve.
>
> No Shit Sherlock! And heaven forbid you'd actually read any of
> the posts and click on the link I provided!
>
> I also predicted:
>
> >> And you'll still refuse to go back and look at this thread and see
> >> where you ****ed up, and continue to carry on your stupidity
> >> without missing a beat.
>
> Did I call this, or did I call this? I must have ESP!
>
> I'll slow down now. This is almost as sad as our throwing eggs at
> the short bus when it passed by in the morning. But in our
> defense they were Catholic school students, not retarded folks.
>
> -sw

It's rather easy to prove that I started THIS thread babe. The sales
guy started a thread on the same subject, but with a different title.
Are you high or something?

<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...ead/thread/ef7
0a8a455a32b8d/ba813b5b71388028?lnk=raot>

Now let's see you prove that someone else started it!
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine

On 6/8/2010 12:29 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:33:00 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a civil offense. If the FTC decides to act,
>>> they would seek $10,000 per violation in civil
>>> court.
>>
>> i'd expect the odds of that happening are about the same as stu's lawsuit
>> against the cartoon character succeeding. but it's unquestionably sleazy.
>
> Probably so, but the complaint has been submitted.
> I only spent a few minutes on it, so it's not a big deal
> if they don't act. But there's always a chance they will.

First of all, you don't even know what SPAM is. Take a look at

http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html#2.1

"The term "spam," as used on this newsgroup, means "the same article (or
essentially the same article) posted an unacceptably high number of
times to one or more newsgroups." CONTENT IS IRRELEVANT. 'Spam' doesn't
mean "ads." It doesn't mean "abuse." It doesn't mean "posts whose
content I object to." Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be
measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times?"


Now go read
http://spam.abuse.net/overview/whatisspam.shtml

or just read the definition below..... nothing posted meets any
definition of SPAM

Second.... you guys who cry wolf are nuts. I have an email address list
for my business and I can send out thousands of emails a month. The
list is OPT-IN.... you have to sign up to be on it and on each email I
send there is a note about this, including a simple opt-out link.

In spite of that, every week someone on the list reports me for sending
SPAM.

Go figure.

George L

What is spam?
Spam is flooding the Internet with many copies of the same message, in
an attempt to force the message on people who would not otherwise choose
to receive it. Most spam is commercial advertising, often for dubious
products, get-rich-quick schemes, or quasi-legal services. Spam costs
the sender very little to send -- most of the costs are paid for by the
recipient or the carriers rather than by the sender.

There are two main types of spam, and they have different effects on
Internet users. Cancellable Usenet spam is a single message sent to 20
or more Usenet newsgroups. (Through long experience, Usenet users have
found that any message posted to so many newsgroups is often not
relevant to most or all of them.) Usenet spam is aimed at "lurkers",
people who read newsgroups but rarely or never post and give their
address away. Usenet spam robs users of the utility of the newsgroups by
overwhelming them with a barrage of advertising or other irrelevant
posts. Furthermore, Usenet spam subverts the ability of system
administrators and owners to manage the topics they accept on their systems.

Email spam targets individual users with direct mail messages. Email
spam lists are often created by scanning Usenet postings, stealing
Internet mailing lists, or searching the Web for addresses. Email spams
typically cost users money out-of-pocket to receive. Many people -
anyone with measured phone service - read or receive their mail while
the meter is running, so to speak. Spam costs them additional money. On
top of that, it costs money for ISPs and online services to transmit
spam, and these costs are transmitted directly to subscribers.

One particularly nasty variant of email spam is sending spam to mailing
lists (public or private email discussion forums.) Because many mailing
lists limit activity to their subscribers, spammers will use automated
tools to subscribe to as many mailing lists as possible, so that they
can grab the lists of addresses, or use the mailing list as a direct
target for their attacks.