I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?

So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
Thank you.

Lenona.

"Lenona" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
>
> I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
> two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
> the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
> clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
> implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
>
> So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
> Thank you.
>
> Lenona.

The only one I have is Edna Lewis' In Pursuit of Flavor. I wouldn't say it
was widely representative, but what there is has a reason for being and
there are no canned soups of refrigerated doughs, either.

"Lenona" > wrote in message
...
|
| I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
| two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
| the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
| clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
| implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
|
| So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
| Thank you.
|
| Lenona.

The Glory of Southern Cooking by James Villas
Craig Claiborne's Southern Cooking by Craig Claiborne
Pig: King of the Southern Table by James Villas
Southern Country Cooking from the Loveless Cafe: Fried Chicken, Hams, and Jams from Nashville's
Favorite Cafe by Jane Stern and Michael Stern

These four are wonderful. Avoid "Southern Living," initially at least,
as it is a mish-mash of good and weird. Avoid Paula Deen for obvious
reasons.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:25:26 -0700 (PDT), Lenona >
wrote:

>
>I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
>two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
>the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
>clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
>implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
>
>So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
>Thank you.

Go back and buy that book. It's not basic and not over the top. It's
perfect for everyday cooking. Nothing pretentious and covers so much.
The sauces and condiments section alone is worth the 2 bucks. There's
a couple pages for salad dressings and the sandwich section will spur
your brain to all kinds of fun stuff. I thinned out my cookbooks a
few years and and kept all my Southern Living books. I love them and
they're not all that southern. It has a pesto recipe which is hardly
southern U.S.

I think I paid a buck or two for mine also.

Lou

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Lenona" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
>>
>> I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
>> two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
>> the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
>> clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
>> implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
>>
>> So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Lenona.
>
> The only one I have is Edna Lewis' In Pursuit of Flavor. I wouldn't say
> it was widely representative, but what there is has a reason for being and
> there are no canned soups of refrigerated doughs, either.
>

Althought I don't have it (shudder, gasp! - Yes CHRISTINE this is one I
DON'T have), Miz Edna is highly regarded as THE authority on southern
cooking. She is what Paula Deen only WISHES she were.
-ginny

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
| On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:25:26 -0700 (PDT), Lenona >
| wrote:
|
| >
| >I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
| >two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
| >the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
| >clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
| >implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
| >
| >So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
| >Thank you.
|
| Go back and buy that book. It's not basic and not over the top. It's
| perfect for everyday cooking. Nothing pretentious and covers so much.
| The sauces and condiments section alone is worth the 2 bucks. There's
| a couple pages for salad dressings and the sandwich section will spur
| your brain to all kinds of fun stuff. I thinned out my cookbooks a
| few years and and kept all my Southern Living books. I love them and
| they're not all that southern. It has a pesto recipe which is hardly
| southern U.S.

Yeah, that is why I suggested initially avoiding Southern Living. Good
recipes in general, but fairly few of them are "Southern" in any sense of
the term, and the Living in Southern Living is mainly homes and gardens,
not particularly food.

I would strongly second the suggestion of Edna Lewis' In Pursuit of Flavor.

pavane

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:25:26 -0700 (PDT), Lenona >
wrote:

>
>I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
>two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
>the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
>clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
>implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
>
>So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
>Thank you.
>
>Lenona.

Oh, Lordy....

Well...I want to get the Craig Claiborne one myself.
http://www.amazon.com/Craig-Claiborn...5930277&sr=1-4

One of the newer ones, and one of the best is by Edna Lewis and Scott
Peacock: The Gift of Southern Cooking.
http://www.amazon.com/Gift-Southern-...d_bxgy_b_img_b

Edna Lewis is considered the late Grande Dame of Southern Cooking. Her
first book is The Taste of Country Cooking. It has been reprinted.
http://www.amazon.com/Taste-Country-...ref=pd_sim_b_5

Also, In Pursuit of Flavor.
http://www.amazon.com/Pursuit-Flavor..._bxgy_b_text_c

Some old favorites:

Marion Brown:
http://www.amazon.com/Marion-Browns-...5930315&sr=1-1

Bill Neal's Southern Cooking
http://www.amazon.com/Bill-Neals-Sou...5929289&sr=1-1

His other classic book:
Biscuits, Spoonbread and Sweet Potato Pie
http://www.amazon.com/Biscuits-Spoon...5929289&sr=1-4

Damon Lee Fowler has some good ones. He helped start the Southern
Foodways Alliance.
http://www.amazon.com/Classical-Sout...5929631&sr=1-4

http://www.amazon.com/Damon-Lee-Fowl...5929631&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Beans-Greens-S...5929631&sr=1-6

Ronni Lundy has some classics too.
http://www.amazon.com/Shuck-Beans-St...5929778&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Butter-Beans-B...5929778&sr=1-3

James Villas is considered quite an authority on Southern Food as
well. He did quite a few with his mother, and just came out in the
last year with another tome on Southern Cooking.
http://www.amazon.com/My-Mothers-Sou...5930025&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Mothers-Southe...930025&sr=1-11

http://www.amazon.com/Glory-Southern...5930025&sr=1-4

And another new one, which is on my list:
http://www.amazon.com/Pig-Southern-T...5930025&sr=1-1

There are some good ones out there, some of which have come out in the
last few years.

The Lee Bros have put out two recently:
http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Bros-South...5929843&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Bros-Simpl...5929843&sr=1-1

Frank Stitt:
http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Stitts-S...5930239&sr=1-1

I am now seeing some others that I want!!!!

Christine

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:48:54 -0400, "pavane"
> wrote:

..
>The Glory of Southern Cooking by James Villas
>Craig Claiborne's Southern Cooking by Craig Claiborne
>Pig: King of the Southern Table by James Villas
>Southern Country Cooking from the Loveless Cafe: Fried Chicken, Hams, and Jams from Nashville's
>Favorite Cafe by Jane Stern and Michael Stern
>
>These four are wonderful. Avoid "Southern Living," initially at least,
>as it is a mish-mash of good and weird. Avoid Paula Deen for obvious
>reasons.

How do you like the new James Villas one, Pig? That is on my list to
get...

Christine

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:52:47 -0400, "Virginia Tadrzynski"
> wrote:

..
>Althought I don't have it (shudder, gasp! - Yes CHRISTINE this is one I
>DON'T have), Miz Edna is highly regarded as THE authority on southern
>cooking. She is what Paula Deen only WISHES she were.
>-ginny
>

Neener, neener, neener!!!!!!

I have ALL of her books...Even the Edna Lewis cookbook, with the
famous chocolate souffle she was known for at Cafe Nicholson.

So there!!!

Christine

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
| On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:25:26 -0700 (PDT), Lenona >
| wrote:
|
| >
| >I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
| >two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
| >the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
| >clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
| >implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
| >
| >So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
| >Thank you.
| >
| >Lenona.
|
| Oh, Lordy....
| ........
| Marion Brown:
|
http://www.amazon.com/Marion-Browns-...5930315&sr=1-1
| ........
| Christine

Oh good grief, I knew her. Marion Brown and her son vacationed in St. Pete
Beach the same year my mother moved us to Florida, and we stayed in the
same hotel as they did. Her son was close to my age and we spent quite a few
happy weeks together. I still have my quite old copy of her Southern Cook
Book and an autographed copy of her Pickles and Preserves book. Thanks
for a wonderful memory.

pavane

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:15:46 -0400, "pavane"
> wrote:

>Oh good grief, I knew her. Marion Brown and her son vacationed in St. Pete
>Beach the same year my mother moved us to Florida, and we stayed in the
>same hotel as they did. Her son was close to my age and we spent quite a few
>happy weeks together. I still have my quite old copy of her Southern Cook
>Book and an autographed copy of her Pickles and Preserves book. Thanks
>for a wonderful memory.

Her Pickles and Preserves book she did with Damon Lee Fowler is one I
want to get.

Christine

On Jun 7, 10:10*am, Christine Dabney > wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:52:47 -0400, "Virginia Tadrzynski"
>
> > wrote:
>
> .
>
> >Althought I don't have it (shudder, gasp! - Yes CHRISTINE this is one I
> >DON'T have), Miz Edna is highly regarded as THE authority on southern
> >cooking. *She is what Paula Deen only WISHES she were.
> >-ginny
>
> Neener, neener, neener!!!!!!
>
> I have ALL of her books...Even the Edna Lewis cookbook, with the
> famous chocolate souffle she was known for at Cafe Nicholson.
>
> So there!!!
>
> Christine

I put all my favorites on my shopping page on my website. There are
non Southern cookbooks there as well but
it's easier to browse through them on one site. There's 6 pages of
cookbooks, some old some new.

http://www.hizzoners.com/index.php?o...er&Itemid=7 4

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
news
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:52:47 -0400, "Virginia Tadrzynski"
> > wrote:
>
> .
>>Althought I don't have it (shudder, gasp! - Yes CHRISTINE this is one I
>>DON'T have), Miz Edna is highly regarded as THE authority on southern
>>cooking. She is what Paula Deen only WISHES she were.
>>-ginny
>>
>
> Neener, neener, neener!!!!!!
>
> I have ALL of her books...Even the Edna Lewis cookbook, with the
> famous chocolate souffle she was known for at Cafe Nicholson.
>
> So there!!!
>
> Christine


As Emily Litella used to say to Jane Curtin........(you fill in the blank).
-g (vbg)

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
| On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:48:54 -0400, "pavane"
| > wrote:
|
| .
| >The Glory of Southern Cooking by James Villas
| >Craig Claiborne's Southern Cooking by Craig Claiborne
| >Pig: King of the Southern Table by James Villas
| >Southern Country Cooking from the Loveless Cafe: Fried Chicken, Hams, and Jams from Nashville's
| >Favorite Cafe by Jane Stern and Michael Stern
| >
| >These four are wonderful. Avoid "Southern Living," initially at least,
| >as it is a mish-mash of good and weird. Avoid Paula Deen for obvious
| >reasons.
|
| How do you like the new James Villas one, Pig? That is on my list to
| get...

Typical James Villas...very detailed, beautifully written, great
authenticity, delicious results.

pavane

On 6/7/2010 11:25 AM, Lenona wrote:
>
> I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
> two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
> the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
> clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
> implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
>
> So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
> Thank you.
>
> Lenona.

Any of the cookbooks done up as a fund raiser at any of the local
churches. Pentecostal in particular and also the Southern Baptist ladies
tend to dream up some delicious recipes. Many of them are specific to
the area where their church is located. Mostly can't find them in book
stores but check out flea markets, thrift stores, and church stores.

George Shirley wrote:
> On 6/7/2010 11:25 AM, Lenona wrote:
>>
>> I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
>> two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
>> the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
>> clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
>> implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
>>
>> So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Lenona.
>
> Any of the cookbooks done up as a fund raiser at any of the local
> churches. Pentecostal in particular and also the Southern Baptist ladies
> tend to dream up some delicious recipes. Many of them are specific to
> the area where their church is located. Mostly can't find them in book
> stores but check out flea markets, thrift stores, and church stores.


Ladies' Auxiliary (VFW or volunteer fire dept) and Junior League
cookbooks are pretty good too, and not just limited to the South.

My favorite is called "Cotton Country Cooking" and ours has a quilted
boll weevil on the cover. <g> I'm not sure how the latest edition
measures up:

http://www.amazon.com/Cotton-Country.../dp/0961440600

Bob

"Lenona" > wrote in message
...
>
> I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
> two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
> the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
> clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
> implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
>
> So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
> Thank you.
>
> Lenona.


Huntsville Heritage Cookbook - done as a fund raiser by the Ladies Auxiliary
of something.

Why? Because it has "Miss Lilly's Iced tea"

Dimitri

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:48:54 -0400, "pavane"
> wrote:

> Avoid Paula Deen for obvious reasons.

I'm not a Paula Deen fan, but I got a wonderful cinnamon roll recipe
of hers off the Food Network site.

Cinnamon Rolls
Recipe courtesy Paula Deen
12 to 15 servings

Prep Time: 20 min Inactive Prep Time: 1 hr 0 min
Cook Time: 30 min
Level: Intermediate

Ingredients



Dough:

* 1/4-ounce package yeast
* 1/2 cup warm water
* 1/2 cup scalded milk
* 1/4 cup sugar
* 1/3 cup butter or shortening
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 1 egg
* 3 1/2 to 4 cups all-purpose flour

Filling:

* 1/2 cup melted butter, plus more for pan
* 3/4 cup sugar, plus more for pan
* 2 tablespoons ground cinnamon
* 3/4 cup raisins, walnuts, or pecans, optional

Glaze:

* 4 tablespoons butter
* 2 cups powdered sugar
* 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
* 3 to 6 tablespoons hot water


Directions

Heat oven to 350 degrees F.

In a small bowl, dissolve yeast in warm water and set aside. In a
large bowl mix milk, sugar, melted butter, salt and egg. Add 2 cups
of flour and mix until smooth. Add yeast mixture. Mix in remaining
flour until dough is easy to handle. Knead dough on lightly floured
surface for 5 to 10 minutes. Place in well-greased bowl, cover and
let rise until doubled in size, usually 1 to 1 1/2 hours.

When doubled in size, punch down dough. Roll out on a floured surface
into a 15 by 9-inch rectangle. Spread melted butter all over dough.
Mix sugar and cinnamon and sprinkle over buttered dough. Sprinkle
with walnuts, pecans, or raisins if desired. Beginning at the 15-inch
side, role up dough and pinch edge together to seal. Cut into 12 to
15 slices.

Coat the bottom of baking pan with butter and sprinkle with sugar.
Place cinnamon roll slices close together in the pan and let rise
until dough is doubled, about 45 minutes. Bake for about 30 minutes
or until nicely browned.

Meanwhile, mix butter, powdered sugar, and vanilla. Add hot water 1
tablespoon at a time until the glaze reaches desired consistency.
Spread over slightly cooled rolls.

Note to self: cut the glaze recipe in half


--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

On 6/7/2010 12:20 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> I put all my favorites on my shopping page on my website. There are
> non Southern cookbooks there as well but
> it's easier to browse through them on one site. There's 6 pages of
> cookbooks, some old some new.
>
> http://www.hizzoners.com/index.php?o...er&Itemid=7 4
>

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Becca


ObFood:

Beau Monde Spice Mix

1 tablespoon ground cloves
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1 tablespoon salt
1 tablespoon ground bay leaf
1 tablespoon ground allspice

2 tablespoons ground pepper
1 tablespoon ground white pepper
1 teaspoon ground nutmeg
1 teaspoon ground mace
1 teaspoon celery seed

In a small mixing bowl, mix together all ingredients. Pour into a
tightly closed jar and store in a cool, dry place.

"?
>
> So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
> Thank you.
>


frank stitt's southern table

Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:25:26 -0700 (PDT), Lenona >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
> >two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
> >the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
> >clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
> >implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
>
> >So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
> >Thank you.
>
> Go back and buy that book. *It's not basic and not over the top. *It's
> perfect for everyday cooking. *Nothing pretentious and covers so much.
> The sauces and condiments section alone is worth the 2 bucks. *There's
> a couple pages for salad dressings and the sandwich section will spur
> your brain to all kinds of fun stuff. *I thinned out my cookbooks a
> few years and and kept all my Southern Living books. *I love them and
> they're not all that southern. *It has a pesto recipe which is hardly
> southern U.S. *
>
> I think I paid a buck or two for mine also.


Interestingly, Lou, one of the best "Southern" cookbooks is _Jewish
Cooking_ by Joan Nathan. It has a plethora of interesting Southern
recipes...there was a whole diaspora of Jewish folks - both rich and
poor - who settled throughout the US South, the juxtapositions between
Jewish and Southern cooking are pretty fascinating. I HIGHLY suggest
this book in any case, it's one of the best cultural histories of food
of food that is out there.

--
Best
Greg -> not Jewish, just a mensch :-)

Lenona wrote:
>
> I almost bought "The Ultimate Southern Living Cookbook" yesterday for
> two dollars (at Goodwill), but I thought: I don't have room for half
> the cookbooks I have already, plus at least five pounds of newspaper
> clippings! Besides, how do I know that book is really as good as it
> implies - or that it has good recipes I don't already have?
>
> So anyway, which are YOUR favorite Southern-style cookbooks and why?
> Thank you.
>
> Lenona.

Lenona, which one is 'your' favorite southern cookbook? There are two
southern cookbooks in my meager collection that are favorites more for
sentimental reasons than anything else due to their origins/locations
and they're both by the local Junior League clubs.

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:00:07 -0700 (PDT), Gregory Morrow
> wrote:

> Lou Decruss wrote:

>> Go back and buy that book. *It's not basic and not over the top. *It's
>> perfect for everyday cooking. *Nothing pretentious and covers so much.
>> The sauces and condiments section alone is worth the 2 bucks. *There's
>> a couple pages for salad dressings and the sandwich section will spur
>> your brain to all kinds of fun stuff. *I thinned out my cookbooks a
>> few years and and kept all my Southern Living books. *I love them and
>> they're not all that southern. *It has a pesto recipe which is hardly
>> southern U.S. *
>>
>> I think I paid a buck or two for mine also.
>
>
>Interestingly, Lou, one of the best "Southern" cookbooks is _Jewish
>Cooking_ by Joan Nathan. It has a plethora of interesting Southern
>recipes...there was a whole diaspora of Jewish folks - both rich and
>poor - who settled throughout the US South, the juxtapositions between
>Jewish and Southern cooking are pretty fascinating. I HIGHLY suggest
>this book in any case, it's one of the best cultural histories of food
>of food that is out there.

I don't remember what book it was but there was a section on the
German cooking in Tex-ass. Sometimes you find some surprising stuff
in cookbooks.

Lou

On 6/8/2010 9:14 AM, Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:00:07 -0700 (PDT), Gregory Morrow
> > wrote:
>
>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>> Go back and buy that book. It's not basic and not over the top. It's
>>> perfect for everyday cooking. Nothing pretentious and covers so much.
>>> The sauces and condiments section alone is worth the 2 bucks. There's
>>> a couple pages for salad dressings and the sandwich section will spur
>>> your brain to all kinds of fun stuff. I thinned out my cookbooks a
>>> few years and and kept all my Southern Living books. I love them and
>>> they're not all that southern. It has a pesto recipe which is hardly
>>> southern U.S.
>>>
>>> I think I paid a buck or two for mine also.
>>
>>
>> Interestingly, Lou, one of the best "Southern" cookbooks is _Jewish
>> Cooking_ by Joan Nathan. It has a plethora of interesting Southern
>> recipes...there was a whole diaspora of Jewish folks - both rich and
>> poor - who settled throughout the US South, the juxtapositions between
>> Jewish and Southern cooking are pretty fascinating. I HIGHLY suggest
>> this book in any case, it's one of the best cultural histories of food
>> of food that is out there.
>
> I don't remember what book it was but there was a section on the
> German cooking in Tex-ass. Sometimes you find some surprising stuff
> in cookbooks.
>
> Lou

Used to be that the primary languages in Texas were English, Spanish,
German, and Czech. Probably not so much anymore, in the seventies tons
of Yankees fleeing the rust belt moved there.

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
news
> On 6/8/2010 9:14 AM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:00:07 -0700 (PDT), Gregory Morrow
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>>> Go back and buy that book. It's not basic and not over the top. It's
>>>> perfect for everyday cooking. Nothing pretentious and covers so much.
>>>> The sauces and condiments section alone is worth the 2 bucks. There's
>>>> a couple pages for salad dressings and the sandwich section will spur
>>>> your brain to all kinds of fun stuff. I thinned out my cookbooks a
>>>> few years and and kept all my Southern Living books. I love them and
>>>> they're not all that southern. It has a pesto recipe which is hardly
>>>> southern U.S.
>>>>
>>>> I think I paid a buck or two for mine also.
>>>
>>>
>>> Interestingly, Lou, one of the best "Southern" cookbooks is _Jewish
>>> Cooking_ by Joan Nathan. It has a plethora of interesting Southern
>>> recipes...there was a whole diaspora of Jewish folks - both rich and
>>> poor - who settled throughout the US South, the juxtapositions between
>>> Jewish and Southern cooking are pretty fascinating. I HIGHLY suggest
>>> this book in any case, it's one of the best cultural histories of food
>>> of food that is out there.
>>
>> I don't remember what book it was but there was a section on the
>> German cooking in Tex-ass. Sometimes you find some surprising stuff
>> in cookbooks.
>>
>> Lou
>
> Used to be that the primary languages in Texas were English, Spanish,
> German, and Czech. Probably not so much anymore, in the seventies tons of
> Yankees fleeing the rust belt moved there.


I live in eastern PA and 'everyone' who drives an SUV of a 'higher caliber'
has a bumper sticker that says 'ask me about my place on the Outer Banks'.
I grew up in NC....if everyone who says they have a place at OBX actually
did, the place would look like a NY tenement block with building stacked on
building. I hate when people move to an area and say 'we're here, so you
change.'
-ginny

On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:57:18 -0500, George Shirley
> wrote:

>On 6/8/2010 9:14 AM, Lou Decruss wrote:

>> I don't remember what book it was but there was a section on the
>> German cooking in Tex-ass. Sometimes you find some surprising stuff
>> in cookbooks.
>>
>> Lou
>
>Used to be that the primary languages in Texas were English, Spanish,
>German, and Czech. Probably not so much anymore, in the seventies tons
>of Yankees fleeing the rust belt moved there.

Interesting. I didn't know about the Czech either.

Lou

On 6/14/2010 10:47 AM, Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:57:18 -0500, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/8/2010 9:14 AM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>> I don't remember what book it was but there was a section on the
>>> German cooking in Tex-ass. Sometimes you find some surprising stuff
>>> in cookbooks.
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>> Used to be that the primary languages in Texas were English, Spanish,
>> German, and Czech. Probably not so much anymore, in the seventies tons
>> of Yankees fleeing the rust belt moved there.
>
> Interesting. I didn't know about the Czech either.
>
> Lou

They got to Texas about the same time as the Germans did, mostly from
Czech Bohemia, excellent farmers, still a bunch of their descendants
around Needville outside Houston. Here's their
webpage:http://www.cityofneedville.com/

When I worked in the Houston area there were many of the Czech
descendants working in the oil patch with me, interesting people.
Another little group of them settled in what is now Crosby, TX on the
east side of Houston along the San Jacinto river, lots of them still
belong to the Church of the Brethern and many of the women still wear
the little caps and braid their hair. Here's the url of the church in
Crosby. We lived there and in nearby Huffman for several years. Good,
hard-working people and lots of really good cooks.

On 6/14/2010 11:46 AM, George Shirley wrote:
> On 6/14/2010 10:47 AM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:57:18 -0500, George Shirley
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/8/2010 9:14 AM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>>> I don't remember what book it was but there was a section on the
>>>> German cooking in Tex-ass. Sometimes you find some surprising stuff
>>>> in cookbooks.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
>>> Used to be that the primary languages in Texas were English, Spanish,
>>> German, and Czech. Probably not so much anymore, in the seventies tons
>>> of Yankees fleeing the rust belt moved there.
>>
>> Interesting. I didn't know about the Czech either.
>>
>> Lou
>
> They got to Texas about the same time as the Germans did, mostly from
> Czech Bohemia, excellent farmers, still a bunch of their descendants
> around Needville outside Houston. Here's their
> webpage:http://www.cityofneedville.com/
>
> When I worked in the Houston area there were many of the Czech
> descendants working in the oil patch with me, interesting people.
> Another little group of them settled in what is now Crosby, TX on the
> east side of Houston along the San Jacinto river, lots of them still
> belong to the Church of the Brethern and many of the women still wear
> the little caps and braid their hair. Here's the url of the church in
> Crosby. We lived there and in nearby Huffman for several years. Good,
> hard-working people and lots of really good cooks.

Sorry about that dropped the url somewhere along the line.

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:46:12 -0500, George Shirley
> wrote:


>> Interesting. I didn't know about the Czech either.
>>
>> Lou
>
>They got to Texas about the same time as the Germans did, mostly from
>Czech Bohemia, excellent farmers, still a bunch of their descendants
>around Needville outside Houston. Here's their
>webpage:http://www.cityofneedville.com/
>
>When I worked in the Houston area there were many of the Czech
>descendants working in the oil patch with me, interesting people.
>Another little group of them settled in what is now Crosby, TX on the
>east side of Houston along the San Jacinto river, lots of them still
>belong to the Church of the Brethern and many of the women still wear
>the little caps and braid their hair. Here's the url of the church in
>Crosby. We lived there and in nearby Huffman for several years. Good,
>hard-working people and lots of really good cooks.

Nice story George.

Lou

On 6/15/2010 3:45 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:46:12 -0500, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>
>>> Interesting. I didn't know about the Czech either.
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>> They got to Texas about the same time as the Germans did, mostly from
>> Czech Bohemia, excellent farmers, still a bunch of their descendants
>> around Needville outside Houston. Here's their
>> webpage:http://www.cityofneedville.com/
>>
>> When I worked in the Houston area there were many of the Czech
>> descendants working in the oil patch with me, interesting people.
>> Another little group of them settled in what is now Crosby, TX on the
>> east side of Houston along the San Jacinto river, lots of them still
>> belong to the Church of the Brethern and many of the women still wear
>> the little caps and braid their hair. Here's the url of the church in
>> Crosby. We lived there and in nearby Huffman for several years. Good,
>> hard-working people and lots of really good cooks.
>
> Nice story George.
>
> Lou

Thanks Lou, that's one advantage to being third-generation oil field
trash, you get to live in a lot of interesting places. I just refuse to
move anywhere where it gets cold.

> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:46:12 -0500, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>
> >> Interesting. I didn't know about the Czech either.
> >>
> >> Lou
> >
> >They got to Texas about the same time as the Germans did, mostly from
> >Czech Bohemia, excellent farmers, still a bunch of their descendants
> >around Needville outside Houston. Here's their
> >webpage:http://www.cityofneedville.com/
> >
> >When I worked in the Houston area there were many of the Czech
> >descendants working in the oil patch with me, interesting people.
> >Another little group of them settled in what is now Crosby, TX on the
> >east side of Houston along the San Jacinto river, lots of them still
> >belong to the Church of the Brethern and many of the women still wear
> >the little caps and braid their hair. Here's the url of the church in
> >Crosby. We lived there and in nearby Huffman for several years. Good,
> >hard-working people and lots of really good cooks.
>
A friend of mine from my Dallas days is of Czech ancestry. Her parents
bought a retirement spread near Rosenberg. And then there is West,
Texas, where one can get some fine kolaches. I never made it down
there, unfortunately, so I had to learn how to make them myself.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

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Cindy Fuller wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:46:12 -0500, George Shirley
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Interesting. I didn't know about the Czech either.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>> They got to Texas about the same time as the Germans did, mostly from
>>> Czech Bohemia, excellent farmers, still a bunch of their descendants
>>> around Needville outside Houston. Here's their
>>> webpage:http://www.cityofneedville.com/
>>>
>>> When I worked in the Houston area there were many of the Czech
>>> descendants working in the oil patch with me, interesting people.
>>> Another little group of them settled in what is now Crosby, TX on the
>>> east side of Houston along the San Jacinto river, lots of them still
>>> belong to the Church of the Brethern and many of the women still wear
>>> the little caps and braid their hair. Here's the url of the church in
>>> Crosby. We lived there and in nearby Huffman for several years. Good,
>>> hard-working people and lots of really good cooks.
> A friend of mine from my Dallas days is of Czech ancestry. Her parents
> bought a retirement spread near Rosenberg. And then there is West,
> Texas, where one can get some fine kolaches. I never made it down
> there, unfortunately, so I had to learn how to make them myself.
>
> Cindy
>


The kolaches in West are not nearly as good as the ones in Zabcikville.

Bob

On 6/15/2010 11:17 PM, Cindy Fuller wrote:

> A friend of mine from my Dallas days is of Czech ancestry. Her parents
> bought a retirement spread near Rosenberg. And then there is West,
> Texas, where one can get some fine kolaches. I never made it down
> there, unfortunately, so I had to learn how to make them myself.
>
> Cindy
>

I never had a kolache until I moved to Texas. The combination of sweet
dough wrapped around a sausage doesn't appeal to me (I don't like corn
dogs, either) but the kolaches filled with fruit are pretty good.

George L

On 6/15/2010 11:17 PM, Cindy Fuller wrote:
> A friend of mine from my Dallas days is of Czech ancestry. Her parents
> bought a retirement spread near Rosenberg. And then there is West,
> Texas, where one can get some fine kolaches. I never made it down
> there, unfortunately, so I had to learn how to make them myself.
>
> Cindy
>

A kolache place opened near us, but the only kolaches they make are
sausage. They were good, but I was in the mood for cheese, apricot,
poppyseed, blueberry, pineapple. His mother had a kolache shop in the
Richmond-Rosenberg area.

Becca

On 6/16/2010 4:27 PM, Becca wrote:
> On 6/15/2010 11:17 PM, Cindy Fuller wrote:
>> A friend of mine from my Dallas days is of Czech ancestry. Her parents
>> bought a retirement spread near Rosenberg. And then there is West,
>> Texas, where one can get some fine kolaches. I never made it down
>> there, unfortunately, so I had to learn how to make them myself.
>>
>> Cindy
>
> A kolache place opened near us, but the only kolaches they make are
> sausage. They were good, but I was in the mood for cheese, apricot,
> poppyseed, blueberry, pineapple. His mother had a kolache shop in the
> Richmond-Rosenberg area.
>
> Becca

We can get fruit kolaches here in SW Louisiana Becca, also the sausage
type. Most of the donut shops around here carry them nowadays.

We even have tamale shops, mostly run by Cajuns but one by a Mexican family.