There a great local (CA central & south) A place called MO'S they serve
excellent Tri-tip, Ribs shredded Pork & Chicken. Tons of local awards. Every
year they win. It really is good Q.

The problem is their Cole slaw. They advertize they use the recipe from
"The Original Pantry" in LA. IMHO the Pantry Slaw is the best I have ever
tasted. The problem is MO'S slaw is a commercial mix with white & Red
cabbage sliced rather thick, probably some onion & other fillers. The
Pantry slaw is JUST CABBAGE sliced quite thin.

Every time I go in I get disappointed to the point I have "mentioned,
complained, written, emailed etc.

I am sure they think I am a crackpot. Maybe I am.

All I suggest is send one of your people to the Pantry and eat their slaw.

I am at the point I refuse to go back it just ****es me off.

They have lost a customer.

Your story?

Dimitri

On Jun 8, 10:06*am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> There a great local (CA central & south) A place called MO'S they serve
> excellent Tri-tip, Ribs shredded Pork & Chicken. Tons of local awards. Every
> year they win. It really is good Q.
>
> The problem is their Cole slaw. *They advertize they use the recipe from
> "The Original Pantry" in LA. *IMHO the Pantry Slaw is the best I have ever
> tasted. *The problem is MO'S slaw is a commercial mix with white & Red
> cabbage sliced rather thick, probably some onion & other fillers. *The
> Pantry slaw is JUST CABBAGE sliced quite thin.
>
> Every time I go in I get disappointed to the point I have "mentioned,
> complained, written, emailed etc.
>
> I am sure they think I am a crackpot. Maybe I am.
>
> All I suggest is send one of your people to the Pantry and eat their slaw..
>
> I am at the point I refuse to go back it just ****es me off.
>
> They have lost a customer.
>
> Your story?

We went to the OP once. (A transplanted Angeleno friend of ours
recommended all the old classic joints* of her youth to us. ) Steaks
resembling the finest Tad's. Everything else completely unmemorable
except for the giant mutant carrot sticks on the relish tray -- which
were streaked with black.

*Vince's Spaghetti and the Apple Pan are the only other ones I
remember.

On Jun 8, 10:06*am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> There a great local (CA central & south) A place called MO'S they serve
> excellent Tri-tip, Ribs shredded Pork & Chicken. Tons of local awards. Every
> year they win. It really is good Q.
>
> The problem is their Cole slaw. *They advertize they use the recipe from
> "The Original Pantry" in LA. *IMHO the Pantry Slaw is the best I have ever
> tasted. *The problem is MO'S slaw is a commercial mix with white & Red
> cabbage sliced rather thick, probably some onion & other fillers. *The
> Pantry slaw is JUST CABBAGE sliced quite thin.
>
> Every time I go in I get disappointed to the point I have "mentioned,
> complained, written, emailed etc.
>
> I am sure they think I am a crackpot. Maybe I am.
>
> All I suggest is send one of your people to the Pantry and eat their slaw..
>
> I am at the point I refuse to go back it just ****es me off.
>
> They have lost a customer.
>
> Your story?
>
> Dimitri

Well...don't get the slaw. Get something else.

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
...
> There a great local (CA central & south) A place called MO'S they serve
> excellent Tri-tip, Ribs shredded Pork & Chicken. Tons of local awards.
> Every year they win. It really is good Q.
>
> The problem is their Cole slaw. They advertize they use the recipe from
> "The Original Pantry" in LA. IMHO the Pantry Slaw is the best I have ever
> tasted. The problem is MO'S slaw is a commercial mix with white & Red
> cabbage sliced rather thick, probably some onion & other fillers. The
> Pantry slaw is JUST CABBAGE sliced quite thin.
>
> Every time I go in I get disappointed to the point I have "mentioned,
> complained, written, emailed etc.
>
> I am sure they think I am a crackpot. Maybe I am.
>
> All I suggest is send one of your people to the Pantry and eat their slaw.
>
> I am at the point I refuse to go back it just ****es me off.
>
> They have lost a customer.
>
> Your story?
>
> Dimitri
Really good place in Chestnut Hill section of Philly, excellent food, pretty
convenient, not too expensive. A few times I've asked to substitute sides on
my order and was turned down. I'm talking about things like a baked potato
instead of garlic mashed, or sautéed spinach instead of string beans, both
of which were on the menu that day. No substitutions. One time, they even
gave me a hard time when I asked them to OMIT a side. I tried to explain
that omitting is not substituting, and she finally brought the owner out of
the kitchen, who also flatly refused. I said OK, I guess we're not eating
here tonight and took my party of 4 to the place down the street.

Haven't been back since.
Jon

On Jun 8, 2:43*pm, "Zeppo" > wrote:
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > There a great local (CA central & south) A place called MO'S they serve
> > excellent Tri-tip, Ribs shredded Pork & Chicken. Tons of local awards.
> > Every year they win. It really is good Q.
>
> > The problem is their Cole slaw. *They advertize they use the recipe from
> > "The Original Pantry" in LA. *IMHO the Pantry Slaw is the best I have ever
> > tasted. *The problem is MO'S slaw is a commercial mix with white & Red
> > cabbage sliced rather thick, probably some onion & other fillers. *The
> > Pantry slaw is JUST CABBAGE sliced quite thin.
>
> > Every time I go in I get disappointed to the point I have "mentioned,
> > complained, written, emailed etc.
>
> > I am sure they think I am a crackpot. Maybe I am.
>
> > All I suggest is send one of your people to the Pantry and eat their slaw.
>
> > I am at the point I refuse to go back it just ****es me off.
>
> > They have lost a customer.
>
> > Your story?
>
> > Dimitri
>
> Really good place in Chestnut Hill section of Philly, excellent food, pretty
> convenient, not too expensive. A few times I've asked to substitute sides on
> my order and was turned down. I'm talking about things like a baked potato
> instead of garlic mashed, or sautéed spinach instead of string beans, both
> of which were on the menu that day. No substitutions. One time, they even
> gave me a hard time when I asked them to OMIT a side. I tried to explain
> that omitting is not substituting, and she finally brought the owner out of
> the kitchen, who also flatly refused. I said OK, I guess we're not eating
> here tonight and took my party of 4 to the place down the street.
>
> Haven't been back since.

Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
them. Especially good if it's on carpet. Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
afterward, then walk out.

> Jon

--Bryan

Dimitri wrote:
>
> There a great local (CA central & south) A place called MO'S they serve
> excellent Tri-tip, Ribs shredded Pork & Chicken. Tons of local awards. Every
> year they win. It really is good Q.
>
> The problem is their Cole slaw. They advertize they use the recipe from
> "The Original Pantry" in LA. IMHO the Pantry Slaw is the best I have ever
> tasted. The problem is MO'S slaw is a commercial mix with white & Red
> cabbage sliced rather thick, probably some onion & other fillers. The
> Pantry slaw is JUST CABBAGE sliced quite thin.
>
> Every time I go in I get disappointed to the point I have "mentioned,
> complained, written, emailed etc.
>
> I am sure they think I am a crackpot. Maybe I am.
>
> All I suggest is send one of your people to the Pantry and eat their slaw.
>
> I am at the point I refuse to go back it just ****es me off.
>
> They have lost a customer.
>
> Your story?
>
> Dimitri

Sometimes, folks are so set in their ways it doesn't matter what the
chorus is from the choir or how often it's sung, eh? <G> Hehehe, maybe
you could tell those folks you're a 'psychoceramacist' or that you study
'psychoceramics', eh!! =

Sky,

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

Dimitri wrote:

> The problem is their Cole slaw. They advertize they use the recipe
> from "The Original Pantry" in LA. IMHO the Pantry Slaw is the best I
> have ever tasted. The problem is MO'S slaw is a commercial mix with
> white & Red cabbage sliced rather thick, probably some onion & other
> fillers. The Pantry slaw is JUST CABBAGE sliced quite thin.
>
> Every time I go in I get disappointed to the point I have "mentioned,
> complained, written, emailed etc.
>
> I am sure they think I am a crackpot. Maybe I am.
>
> All I suggest is send one of your people to the Pantry and eat their
> slaw.
> I am at the point I refuse to go back it just ****es me off.
>
> They have lost a customer.
>
> Your story?

I don't know if this is what you're talking about, but there used to be
this restaurant that served Polynesian/Chinese food. It was a fun
place to go, wildly decorated with tree slab tables, way too much
by way of plastic tropical plants, it had an atmosphere all of it's own.
The best part was that the food was so good. If you ordered something
with lobster, there were lots of big chunks of it. Whatever, it was kitschy
but it was a fun place. Of course they had the obligatory tropical drinks
complete with umbrellas. The place was always mobbed.

Then they had a fire. You know it will never be the same, but nothing
prepared me for the white formica cafeteria look they went with when
they reopened. McDonald's has more ambience than this place.

They quickly went out of business.

nancy

On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:03 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:

> On Jun 8, 2:43*pm, "Zeppo" > wrote:
>>
>> Really good place in Chestnut Hill section of Philly, excellent food, pretty
>> convenient, not too expensive. A few times I've asked to substitute sides on
>> my order and was turned down. I'm talking about things like a baked potato
>> instead of garlic mashed, or sautéed spinach instead of string beans, both
>> of which were on the menu that day. No substitutions. One time, they even
>> gave me a hard time when I asked them to OMIT a side. I tried to explain
>> that omitting is not substituting, and she finally brought the owner out of
>> the kitchen, who also flatly refused. I said OK, I guess we're not eating
>> here tonight and took my party of 4 to the place down the street.
>>
>> Haven't been back since.
>
> Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
> then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
> them. Especially good if it's on carpet. Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
> afterward, then walk out.

you really are a childish prick.

blake

On 6/9/2010 1:43 AM, Sky wrote:
> Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> There a great local (CA central& south) A place called MO'S they serve
>> excellent Tri-tip, Ribs shredded Pork& Chicken. Tons of local awards. Every
>> year they win. It really is good Q.
>>
>> The problem is their Cole slaw. They advertize they use the recipe from
>> "The Original Pantry" in LA. IMHO the Pantry Slaw is the best I have ever
>> tasted. The problem is MO'S slaw is a commercial mix with white& Red
>> cabbage sliced rather thick, probably some onion& other fillers. The
>> Pantry slaw is JUST CABBAGE sliced quite thin.
>>
>> Every time I go in I get disappointed to the point I have "mentioned,
>> complained, written, emailed etc.
>>
>> I am sure they think I am a crackpot. Maybe I am.
>>
>> All I suggest is send one of your people to the Pantry and eat their slaw.
>>
>> I am at the point I refuse to go back it just ****es me off.
>>
>> They have lost a customer.
>>
>> Your story?
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> Sometimes, folks are so set in their ways it doesn't matter what the
> chorus is from the choir or how often it's sung, eh?<G> Hehehe, maybe
> you could tell those folks you're a 'psychoceramacist' or that you study
> 'psychoceramics', eh!! =
>
> Sky,
>

Gawd, I had forgotten about psychoceramics, used to tell people that
when I was getting my psych degree way back when. Most just looked
curious and never figured it out.

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> On 6/9/2010 1:43 AM, Sky wrote:

> > Sometimes, folks are so set in their ways it doesn't matter what the
> > chorus is from the choir or how often it's sung, eh?<G> Hehehe, maybe
> > you could tell those folks you're a 'psychoceramacist' or that you study
> > 'psychoceramics', eh!! =

> Gawd, I had forgotten about psychoceramics, used to tell people that
> when I was getting my psych degree way back when. Most just looked
> curious and never figured it out.

I didn't get it yesterday. I had to read it several times today before
I finally got it.

Yeah, my observation is that a significant number of people who study
psychology seem to be doing so because they have some problems that they
might get help with.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On 6/10/2010 9:44 AM, Dan Abel wrote:
> In article<ne6dnaOL8OrvkI3RnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews. com>,
> George > wrote:
>
>> On 6/9/2010 1:43 AM, Sky wrote:
>
>>> Sometimes, folks are so set in their ways it doesn't matter what the
>>> chorus is from the choir or how often it's sung, eh?<G> Hehehe, maybe
>>> you could tell those folks you're a 'psychoceramacist' or that you study
>>> 'psychoceramics', eh!! =
>
>> Gawd, I had forgotten about psychoceramics, used to tell people that
>> when I was getting my psych degree way back when. Most just looked
>> curious and never figured it out.
>
> I didn't get it yesterday. I had to read it several times today before
> I finally got it.
>
> Yeah, my observation is that a significant number of people who study
> psychology seem to be doing so because they have some problems that they
> might get help with.
>
My degrees are in sociology and psychology, got them because they were
easy for me to do and still work shift, raise a family, and perform as
an officer in the guard. Not to mention running a business on the side.
I worked most of my life in industrial safety and the two degrees really
helped me determine who was doing what to whom. So far I haven't gone
completely crazy, but time will tell.

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:44:47 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
> > On 6/9/2010 1:43 AM, Sky wrote:
>
> > > Sometimes, folks are so set in their ways it doesn't matter what the
> > > chorus is from the choir or how often it's sung, eh?<G> Hehehe, maybe
> > > you could tell those folks you're a 'psychoceramacist' or that you study
> > > 'psychoceramics', eh!! =
>
> > Gawd, I had forgotten about psychoceramics, used to tell people that
> > when I was getting my psych degree way back when. Most just looked
> > curious and never figured it out.
>
> I didn't get it yesterday. I had to read it several times today before
> I finally got it.
>
> Yeah, my observation is that a significant number of people who study
> psychology seem to be doing so because they have some problems that they
> might get help with.

or there's someone in the family who has a mental health issue

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

"sf" > ha scritto nel messaggio


> or there's someone in the family who has a mental health issue

Which modern family can be described as having no issues? There have always
been funny uncles and cousins with ungovernable tempers, but now we get it
that it's illness. That's all, IMO, that has changed.

On Jun 9, 2:45*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:03 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:
> > On Jun 8, 2:43*pm, "Zeppo" > wrote:
>
> >> Really good place in Chestnut Hill section of Philly, excellent food, pretty
> >> convenient, not too expensive. A few times I've asked to substitute sides on
> >> my order and was turned down. I'm talking about things like a baked potato
> >> instead of garlic mashed, or sautéed spinach instead of string beans, both
> >> of which were on the menu that day. No substitutions. One time, they even
> >> gave me a hard time when I asked them to OMIT a side. I tried to explain
> >> that omitting is not substituting, and she finally brought the owner out of
> >> the kitchen, who also flatly refused. I said OK, I guess we're not eating
> >> here tonight and took my party of 4 to the place down the street.
>
> >> Haven't been back since.
>
> > Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
> > then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
> > them. *Especially good if it's on carpet. *Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
> > afterward, then walk out.
>
> you really are a childish prick.

You should have seen the look on the waitress' face. It was at a
Steak'n Shake. She kept screwing up my order, and she reeked bigtime
of weed. I finally held out my water glass, which had been empty for
a while after asking her to refill it more than once, then dropped it
straight down, looked at her and said, "Ooops." She got zero tip, I
think that might have been the only time I ever did that. She
deserved to be called out to the manager for coming to work WAY too
high to do her job.
In the case mentioned above, dropping food onto the carpet would be
perfectly legit since the owner refused to omit the item. Of course,
I realize that action is not your style. You prefer name calling, and
that's OK too. Calling the owner a "childish prick" in front of lots
of other customers would be a hoot too.
>
> blake

--Bryan

On 6/8/2010 4:02 PM, Food Snob® wrote:


>
> Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
> then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
> them. Especially good if it's on carpet. Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
> afterward, then walk out.

>
> --Bryan



So to your way of thinking, if your service isn't the way you want it,
that gives you the right to act like an ass. How exactly does that make
things better?

Throwing food on the floor is little more than an adult temper tantrum.
"Wah... wah... I want it my way and I want it NOW!!!!! Wah... wah..."
Maybe it would have more effect if you stamped your little feet and
banged your head on the table while you did this. You could even try
holding your breath!!!

If you want to "punish" a restaurant, let them know you are unhappy with
the way they do business and you won't be coming back.

George L

On Jun 11, 9:09*am, George Leppla > wrote:
> On 6/8/2010 4:02 PM, Food Snob wrote:
>
>
>
> > Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
> > then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
> > them. *Especially good if it's on carpet. *Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
> > afterward, then walk out.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> So to your way of thinking, if your service isn't the way you want it,
> that gives you the right to act like an ass. *How exactly does that make
> things better?

It's fun, and quite cathartic.
>
> Throwing food on the floor is little more than an adult temper tantrum.
> * "Wah... wah... I want it my way and I want it NOW!!!!! *Wah... wah...."

No. That wouldn't have accomplished anything.

> * Maybe it would have more effect if you stamped your little feet and
> banged your head on the table while you did this. *You could even try
> holding your breath!!!

Maybe YOU find those things cathartic. I don't.
>
> If you want to "punish" a restaurant, let them know you are unhappy with
> the way they do business and you won't be coming back.

The example of the owner who refused to "omit" a side, a context which
you trimmed out, was extreme. The response I suggested was no more
so. Some son of a bitch restaurant owner who insists that I allow him
to plop down some hideous, faux mayo slop onto my plate, or I can take
my business elsewhere is going to suffer worse consequences than
merely losing that sale. I can assure you of that.
>
> George L

--Bryan

On 6/11/2010 10:02 AM, Food Snob® wrote:
> On Jun 11, 9:09 am, George > wrote:
>> On 6/8/2010 4:02 PM, Food Snob wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
>>> then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
>>> them. Especially good if it's on carpet. Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
>>> afterward, then walk out.
>>
>>> --Bryan
>>
>> So to your way of thinking, if your service isn't the way you want it,
>> that gives you the right to act like an ass. How exactly does that make
>> things better?
>
> It's fun, and quite cathartic.
>>
>> Throwing food on the floor is little more than an adult temper tantrum.
>> "Wah... wah... I want it my way and I want it NOW!!!!! Wah... wah...."
>
> No. That wouldn't have accomplished anything.
>
>> Maybe it would have more effect if you stamped your little feet and
>> banged your head on the table while you did this. You could even try
>> holding your breath!!!
>
> Maybe YOU find those things cathartic. I don't.
>>
>> If you want to "punish" a restaurant, let them know you are unhappy with
>> the way they do business and you won't be coming back.
>
> The example of the owner who refused to "omit" a side, a context which
> you trimmed out, was extreme. The response I suggested was no more
> so. Some son of a bitch restaurant owner who insists that I allow him
> to plop down some hideous, faux mayo slop onto my plate, or I can take
> my business elsewhere is going to suffer worse consequences than
> merely losing that sale. I can assure you of that.
>>
>> George L
>
> --Bryan

Wow. You aren't wrapped real tight, are you. Someone has to "suffer
consequences" because you don't like the way they plate the food they sell?

Let me ask you.... did someone drag you off the street, nail you to a
chair and force you do order something you didn't want?

When told that you couldn't "have it your way", were you prevented from
leaving without placing an order?

I'm wondering how anyone can enjoy a meal while throwing a hissy fit at
the same time.

George L

On Jun 11, 9:02*am, Food Snob® > wrote:
> On Jun 11, 9:09*am, George Leppla > wrote:
>
> > On 6/8/2010 4:02 PM, Food Snob wrote:
>
> > > Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
> > > then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
> > > them. *Especially good if it's on carpet. *Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
> > > afterward, then walk out.
>
> > > --Bryan
>
> > So to your way of thinking, if your service isn't the way you want it,
> > that gives you the right to act like an ass. *How exactly does that make
> > things better?
>
> It's fun, and quite cathartic.
>
>
>
> > Throwing food on the floor is little more than an adult temper tantrum.
> > * "Wah... wah... I want it my way and I want it NOW!!!!! *Wah... wah..."
>
> No. *That wouldn't have accomplished anything.
>
> > * Maybe it would have more effect if you stamped your little feet and
> > banged your head on the table while you did this. *You could even try
> > holding your breath!!!
>
> Maybe YOU find those things cathartic. *I don't.
>
>
>
> > If you want to "punish" a restaurant, let them know you are unhappy with
> > the way they do business and you won't be coming back.
>
> The example of the owner who refused to "omit" a side, a context which
> you trimmed out, was extreme. *The response I suggested was no more
> so. *Some son of a bitch restaurant owner who insists that I allow him
> to plop down some hideous, faux mayo slop onto my plate, or I can take
> my business elsewhere is going to suffer worse consequences than
> merely losing that sale. *I can assure you of that.
>
>
>
> > George L
>
> --Bryan

==
You should pin a label on you that says "Difficult Customer"...that
should get you better service. You betcha.
I ran across "difficult" people when I was in the retail
business...you assholes should roast in Hell for your obnoxious
attitudes and behaviors.
==

On 6/11/2010 10:02 AM, Food Snob® wrote:
> The example of the owner who refused to "omit" a side, a context which
> you trimmed out, was extreme. The response I suggested was no more
> so. Some son of a bitch restaurant owner who insists that I allow him
> to plop down some hideous, faux mayo slop onto my plate, or I can take
> my business elsewhere is going to suffer worse consequences than
> merely losing that sale. I can assure you of that.
>> George L
>>
> --Bryan
>

Do you consider that a proper example on how to behave when you do not
like what you are served? How you would feel if your son behaved that
way, when he did not like something you cooked? After all, you set the
example. Life becomes tough when you are a parent. You have to start
behaving like an adult.

We have all been disappointed in restaurants. When I am paying hard
earned money, I also want real food instead of fake food. It may be
easier to throw a fit, but instead, maybe you should explain to the
manager why you are not pleased.

Becca

On Jun 11, 10:17*am, George Leppla > wrote:
> On 6/11/2010 10:02 AM, Food Snob® wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 11, 9:09 am, George > *wrote:
> >> On 6/8/2010 4:02 PM, Food Snob wrote:
>
> >>> Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
> >>> then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
> >>> them. *Especially good if it's on carpet. *Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
> >>> afterward, then walk out.
>
> >>> --Bryan
>
> >> So to your way of thinking, if your service isn't the way you want it,
> >> that gives you the right to act like an ass. *How exactly does that make
> >> things better?
>
> > It's fun, and quite cathartic.
>
> >> Throwing food on the floor is little more than an adult temper tantrum..
> >> * *"Wah... wah... I want it my way and I want it NOW!!!!! *Wah.... wah...."
>
> > No. *That wouldn't have accomplished anything.
>
> >> * *Maybe it would have more effect if you stamped your little feet and
> >> banged your head on the table while you did this. *You could even try
> >> holding your breath!!!
>
> > Maybe YOU find those things cathartic. *I don't.
>
> >> If you want to "punish" a restaurant, let them know you are unhappy with
> >> the way they do business and you won't be coming back.
>
> > The example of the owner who refused to "omit" a side, a context which
> > you trimmed out, was extreme. *The response I suggested was no more
> > so. *Some son of a bitch restaurant owner who insists that I allow him
> > to plop down some hideous, faux mayo slop onto my plate, or I can take
> > my business elsewhere is going to suffer worse consequences than
> > merely losing that sale. *I can assure you of that.
>
> >> George L
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Wow. *You aren't wrapped real tight, are you. *Someone has to "suffer
> consequences" because you don't like the way they plate the food they sell?

Asking one to leave off something you don't want is perfectly
reasonable. Refusing to do so is obnoxious. I like revenge.
>
> Let me ask you.... did someone drag you off the street, nail you to a
> chair and force you do order something you didn't want?

No.
>
> When told that you couldn't "have it your way", were you prevented from
> leaving without placing an order?

Prevented?
>
> I'm wondering how anyone can enjoy a meal while throwing a hissy fit at
> the same time.

What hissy fit? Heck, more like a laughing fit. I don't get mad. I
get even. In fact, more than even.
>
> George L

--Bryan

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:54:22 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob®
> wrote:


>> >> How would dropping food on a restaurants' floor ever be deemed
>> >> acceptable? It could be deemed as mischief, or defacing private
>> >> property. Cops show and you pull off your "but officer it was an
>> >> accident" dog and pony show, could get you arrested or at the very
>> >> least paying for cleanup.
>>
>> >The burden of proof would be on the owner, unless they had a policy
>> >that all spilled food was the responsibility of the customer. *Funny,
>> >but you have a way of misusing apostrophes that seems to exceed random
>> >**** ups. *If I thought I needed to be sneaky, I could do that too. *I
>> >once thought about writing a sort of Turner Diaries type book as a
>> >guide to industrial sabotage for labor activists... *It's SO easy.
>>
>> >--Bryan
>>
>> We're not talking about spilling, deliberatly dropping food on the
>> floor is the topic, try not to wander.
>
>Have you ever heard of a period? Three sentences stuck together with
>commas...but I'm wandering. How would the restaurant prove intent?
>
>--Bryan

Funny how he can't follow a simple thread line isn't it Bryan? But I
degress, a simple picture of your mug and ban you. Leave it visible by
the cash for all to see would suffice, no need to provide intent.
Simply you'd not be wanted in their establishment.

On Jun 11, 10:29*am, Roy > wrote:
> On Jun 11, 9:02*am, Food Snob® > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 11, 9:09*am, George Leppla > wrote:
>
> > > On 6/8/2010 4:02 PM, Food Snob wrote:
>
> > > > Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
> > > > then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
> > > > them. *Especially good if it's on carpet. *Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
> > > > afterward, then walk out.
>
> > > > --Bryan
>
> > > So to your way of thinking, if your service isn't the way you want it,
> > > that gives you the right to act like an ass. *How exactly does that make
> > > things better?
>
> > It's fun, and quite cathartic.
>
> > > Throwing food on the floor is little more than an adult temper tantrum.
> > > * "Wah... wah... I want it my way and I want it NOW!!!!! *Wah... wah..."
>
> > No. *That wouldn't have accomplished anything.
>
> > > * Maybe it would have more effect if you stamped your little feet and
> > > banged your head on the table while you did this. *You could even try
> > > holding your breath!!!
>
> > Maybe YOU find those things cathartic. *I don't.
>
> > > If you want to "punish" a restaurant, let them know you are unhappy with
> > > the way they do business and you won't be coming back.
>
> > The example of the owner who refused to "omit" a side, a context which
> > you trimmed out, was extreme. *The response I suggested was no more
> > so. *Some son of a bitch restaurant owner who insists that I allow him
> > to plop down some hideous, faux mayo slop onto my plate, or I can take
> > my business elsewhere is going to suffer worse consequences than
> > merely losing that sale. *I can assure you of that.
>
> > > George L
>
> > --Bryan
>
> ==
> You should pin a label on you that says "Difficult Customer"...that
> should get you better service. You betcha.

No, and neither should I wear a label that says, "I tip very well for
extraordinary service," which I do.

> I ran across "difficult" people when I was in the retail
> business...you assholes should roast in Hell for your obnoxious
> attitudes and behaviors.

Does that mean that you think that there should BE a such a thing as
Hell?

Hey, you're like me. You like the idea of punishment, revenge,
justified schadenfreude.

Yep, you're like me, alright.

> ==

--Bryan

"Food Snob®" > ha scritto nel messaggio

I think you must change your handle from Foodsnob (evidence of which is
mostly lacking) to Foodslob.

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:

> On Jun 9, 2:45*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:03 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:
>>> On Jun 8, 2:43*pm, "Zeppo" > wrote:
>>
>>>> Really good place in Chestnut Hill section of Philly, excellent food, pretty
>>>> convenient, not too expensive. A few times I've asked to substitute sides on
>>>> my order and was turned down. I'm talking about things like a baked potato
>>>> instead of garlic mashed, or sautéed spinach instead of string beans, both
>>>> of which were on the menu that day. No substitutions. One time, they even
>>>> gave me a hard time when I asked them to OMIT a side. I tried to explain
>>>> that omitting is not substituting, and she finally brought the owner out of
>>>> the kitchen, who also flatly refused. I said OK, I guess we're not eating
>>>> here tonight and took my party of 4 to the place down the street.
>>
>>>> Haven't been back since.
>>
>>> Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
>>> then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
>>> them. *Especially good if it's on carpet. *Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
>>> afterward, then walk out.
>>
>> you really are a childish prick.
>
> You should have seen the look on the waitress' face. It was at a
> Steak'n Shake. She kept screwing up my order, and she reeked bigtime
> of weed. I finally held out my water glass, which had been empty for
> a while after asking her to refill it more than once, then dropped it
> straight down, looked at her and said, "Ooops." She got zero tip, I
> think that might have been the only time I ever did that. She
> deserved to be called out to the manager for coming to work WAY too
> high to do her job.
> In the case mentioned above, dropping food onto the carpet would be
> perfectly legit since the owner refused to omit the item. Of course,
> I realize that action is not your style. You prefer name calling, and
> that's OK too. Calling the owner a "childish prick" in front of lots
> of other customers would be a hoot too.

this is complete bullshit. do you suppose the owner, or whoever decreed
'no omissions' will be the one to clean up the mess? or even the
weed-reeking waitress (whom you didn't mention before)?

sorry, dumping crap on the floor is not being a man of 'action.' it's
being a two-year-old having a tantrum - in short, a childish prick.

you don't like the policy, don't go there, or don't eat the item but leave
it on the table. that's what an adult would do.

blake

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:09:26 -0500, George Leppla wrote:

> On 6/8/2010 4:02 PM, Food Snob® wrote:
>
>>
>> Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
>> then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
>> them. Especially good if it's on carpet. Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
>> afterward, then walk out.
>
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> So to your way of thinking, if your service isn't the way you want it,
> that gives you the right to act like an ass. How exactly does that make
> things better?
>
> Throwing food on the floor is little more than an adult temper tantrum.
> "Wah... wah... I want it my way and I want it NOW!!!!! Wah... wah..."
> Maybe it would have more effect if you stamped your little feet and
> banged your head on the table while you did this. You could even try
> holding your breath!!!
>
> If you want to "punish" a restaurant, let them know you are unhappy with
> the way they do business and you won't be coming back.
>
> George L

really, it doesn't seem that hard.

your pal,
blake

On Jun 11, 10:40*am, Black < > wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:54:22 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob®
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >> >> How would dropping food on a restaurants' floor ever be deemed
> >> >> acceptable? It could be deemed as mischief, or defacing private
> >> >> property. Cops show and you pull off your "but officer it was an
> >> >> accident" dog and pony show, could get you arrested or at the very
> >> >> least paying for cleanup.
>
> >> >The burden of proof would be on the owner, unless they had a policy
> >> >that all spilled food was the responsibility of the customer. *Funny,
> >> >but you have a way of misusing apostrophes that seems to exceed random
> >> >**** ups. *If I thought I needed to be sneaky, I could do that too. *I
> >> >once thought about writing a sort of Turner Diaries type book as a
> >> >guide to industrial sabotage for labor activists... *It's SO easy.
>
> >> >--Bryan
>
> >> We're not talking about spilling, deliberatly dropping food on the
> >> floor is the topic, try not to wander.
>
> >Have you ever heard of a period? *Three sentences stuck together with
> >commas...but I'm wandering. *How would the restaurant prove intent?
>
> >--Bryan
>
> Funny how he can't follow a simple thread line isn't it Bryan? But I
> degress, a simple picture of your mug and ban you. Leave it visible by
> the cash for all to see would suffice, no need to provide intent.
> Simply you'd not be wanted in their establishment.

You write poorly too. By the looks of the above, as poorly as Stu.

--Bryan

Toss food on the floor? Not if you are over 2 years old.
Were you raised by wolves?

gloria p

On Jun 11, 10:50*am, "Giusi" > wrote:
> "Food Snob " > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> I think you must change your handle from Foodsnob (evidence of which is
> mostly lacking) to Foodslob.

The Food Snob thing is because other folks called me that. I'm
anything but sloppy. If I were to make a mess with food, you can bet
your ass it'd be intentional.

--Bryan

On Jun 11, 11:07*am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
> Toss food on the floor? *Not if you are over 2 years old.
> Were you raised by wolves?

I enjoy retribution.
>
> gloria p

--Bryan

Food Snob® wrote:
> On Jun 11, 11:07 am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
>> Toss food on the floor? Not if you are over 2 years old.
>> Were you raised by wolves?
>
> I enjoy retribution.
>> gloria p
>
> --Bryan


That's not retribution, it's making an a$$ of yourself in public.

gloria p

On Jun 11, 11:05*am, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:
> > On Jun 9, 2:45*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> >> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:03 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:
> >>> On Jun 8, 2:43*pm, "Zeppo" > wrote:
>
> >>>> Really good place in Chestnut Hill section of Philly, excellent food, pretty
> >>>> convenient, not too expensive. A few times I've asked to substitute sides on
> >>>> my order and was turned down. I'm talking about things like a baked potato
> >>>> instead of garlic mashed, or sautéed spinach instead of string beans, both
> >>>> of which were on the menu that day. No substitutions. One time, they even
> >>>> gave me a hard time when I asked them to OMIT a side. I tried to explain
> >>>> that omitting is not substituting, and she finally brought the owner out of
> >>>> the kitchen, who also flatly refused. I said OK, I guess we're not eating
> >>>> here tonight and took my party of 4 to the place down the street.
>
> >>>> Haven't been back since.
>
> >>> Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
> >>> then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
> >>> them. *Especially good if it's on carpet. *Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
> >>> afterward, then walk out.
>
> >> you really are a childish prick.
>
> > You should have seen the look on the waitress' face. *It was at a
> > Steak'n Shake. *She kept screwing up my order, and she reeked bigtime
> > of weed. *I finally held out my water glass, which had been empty for
> > a while after asking her to refill it more than once, then dropped it
> > straight down, looked at her and said, "Ooops." *She got zero tip, I
> > think that might have been the only time I ever did that. *She
> > deserved to be called out to the manager for coming to work WAY too
> > high to do her job.
> > In the case mentioned above, dropping food onto the carpet would be
> > perfectly legit since the owner refused to omit the item. *Of course,
> > I realize that action is not your style. *You prefer name calling, and
> > that's OK too. *Calling the owner a "childish prick" in front of lots
> > of other customers would be a hoot too.
>
> this is complete bullshit. *do you suppose the owner, or whoever decreed
> 'no omissions' will be the one to clean up the mess? *

Whoever cleans it up is being paid by the hour anyway. They're doing
that instead of something else. The owner would get the point. I
used to run a crew cleaning restaurants. If I'd known that a big
stain on the carpet was a result of a justifiably ****ed off customer,
it would have pleased me.

> or even the
> weed-reeking waitress (whom you didn't mention before)?

Another post. Further down.
>
> sorry, dumping crap on the floor is not being a man of 'action.' *it's
> being a two-year-old having a tantrum - in short, a childish prick.

Not a tantrum, but a calm act of sabotage. I'd be leaving the anger
to the owner. I'd be laughing afterward. Action instead of anger.
>
> you don't like the policy, don't go there, or don't eat the item but leave
> it on the table. *that's what an adult would do.

And of course I take my guidance from a useless old hippie. Perhaps
if I hadn't given up chronic pot smoking at 16, I'd be more mellow,
dude.
>
> blake

--Bryan

On Jun 11, 11:06*am, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:09:26 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
> > On 6/8/2010 4:02 PM, Food Snob® wrote:
>
> >> Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
> >> then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
> >> them. *Especially good if it's on carpet. *Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
> >> afterward, then walk out.
>
> >> --Bryan
>
> > So to your way of thinking, if your service isn't the way you want it,
> > that gives you the right to act like an ass. *How exactly does that make
> > things better?
>
> > Throwing food on the floor is little more than an adult temper tantrum.
> > * "Wah... wah... I want it my way and I want it NOW!!!!! *Wah... wah..."
> > * Maybe it would have more effect if you stamped your little feet and
> > banged your head on the table while you did this. *You could even try
> > holding your breath!!!
>
> > If you want to "punish" a restaurant, let them know you are unhappy with
> > the way they do business and you won't be coming back.
>
> > George L
>
> really, it doesn't seem that hard.

It's not enough. My policy is to counter unreasonableness with
greater unreasonableness. It's enjoyable. Remember the dog shit on
the carpet?
Butthole surfing?

>
> your pal,
> blake

--Bryan

gloria.p wrote:
> Food Snob® wrote:
>> On Jun 11, 11:07 am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
>>> Toss food on the floor? Not if you are over 2 years old.
>>> Were you raised by wolves?
>>
>> I enjoy retribution.
>>> gloria p
>>
>> --Bryan
>
>
> That's not retribution, it's making an a$$ of yourself in public.
>
> gloria p

Fits his personality.

On Jun 11, 12:14*pm, "gloria.p" > wrote:
> Food Snob® wrote:
> > On Jun 11, 11:07 am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
> >> Toss food on the floor? *Not if you are over 2 years old.
> >> Were you raised by wolves?
>
> > I enjoy retribution.
> >> gloria p
>
> > --Bryan
>
> That's not retribution, it's making an a$$ of yourself in public.

Are you making the stupid assertion that they are mutually exclusive?
>
> gloria p

--Bryan

On Jun 11, 12:28*pm, "Dora" > wrote:
> gloria.p wrote:
> > Food Snob® wrote:
> >> On Jun 11, 11:07 am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
> >>> Toss food on the floor? *Not if you are over 2 years old.
> >>> Were you raised by wolves?
>
> >> I enjoy retribution.
> >>> gloria p
>
> >> --Bryan
>
> > That's not retribution, it's making an a$$ of yourself in public.
>
> > gloria p
>
> Fits his personality.

That retribution can be worth looking like an ass? You're right. It
does fit my personality.

--Bryan

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:06:43 +0200, "Giusi" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>
> > or there's someone in the family who has a mental health issue
>
> Which modern family can be described as having no issues? There have always
> been funny uncles and cousins with ungovernable tempers, but now we get it
> that it's illness. That's all, IMO, that has changed.
>
What is different now is people now go into careers where they can
help similar people.

--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:02:48 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:
>
> The example of the owner who refused to "omit" a side, a context which
> you trimmed out, was extreme. The response I suggested was no more
> so. Some son of a bitch restaurant owner who insists that I allow him
> to plop down some hideous, faux mayo slop onto my plate, or I can take
> my business elsewhere is going to suffer worse consequences than
> merely losing that sale. I can assure you of that.

wotta man! why not bring back a pistol and plug 'im right between the
eyes?

blake

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:17:00 -0500, George Leppla wrote:

> On 6/11/2010 10:02 AM, Food Snob® wrote:
>>
>> The example of the owner who refused to "omit" a side, a context which
>> you trimmed out, was extreme. The response I suggested was no more
>> so. Some son of a bitch restaurant owner who insists that I allow him
>> to plop down some hideous, faux mayo slop onto my plate, or I can take
>> my business elsewhere is going to suffer worse consequences than
>> merely losing that sale. I can assure you of that.
>>>
>
> Wow. You aren't wrapped real tight, are you. Someone has to "suffer
> consequences" because you don't like the way they plate the food they sell?
>
> Let me ask you.... did someone drag you off the street, nail you to a
> chair and force you do order something you didn't want?
>
> When told that you couldn't "have it your way", were you prevented from
> leaving without placing an order?
>
> I'm wondering how anyone can enjoy a meal while throwing a hissy fit at
> the same time.
>
> George L

hissy fits are even better'n hot sauce!

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:40:11 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:

> On Jun 11, 10:17*am, George Leppla > wrote:
>> On 6/11/2010 10:02 AM, Food Snob® wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The example of the owner who refused to "omit" a side, a context which
>>> you trimmed out, was extreme. *The response I suggested was no more
>>> so. *Some son of a bitch restaurant owner who insists that I allow him
>>> to plop down some hideous, faux mayo slop onto my plate, or I can take
>>> my business elsewhere is going to suffer worse consequences than
>>> merely losing that sale. *I can assure you of that.
>>
>>>> George L
>>
>>> --Bryan
>>
>> Wow. *You aren't wrapped real tight, are you. *Someone has to "suffer
>> consequences" because you don't like the way they plate the food they sell?
>
> Asking one to leave off something you don't want is perfectly
> reasonable. Refusing to do so is obnoxious. I like revenge.
>>
>> Let me ask you.... did someone drag you off the street, nail you to a
>> chair and force you do order something you didn't want?
>
> No.
>>
>> When told that you couldn't "have it your way", were you prevented from
>> leaving without placing an order?
>
> Prevented?
>>
>> I'm wondering how anyone can enjoy a meal while throwing a hissy fit at
>> the same time.
>
> What hissy fit? Heck, more like a laughing fit. I don't get mad. I
> get even. In fact, more than even.

it's asshole pride!

blake

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:26:15 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:

> On Jun 11, 11:06*am, blake murphy > wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:09:26 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>>> On 6/8/2010 4:02 PM, Food Snob® wrote:
>>
>>>> Try it again (the omitting), and if they refuse, eat everything else
>>>> then take the side item and drop it on the floor right in front of
>>>> them. *Especially good if it's on carpet. *Make sure to say, "Ooops,"
>>>> afterward, then walk out.
>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>
>>> So to your way of thinking, if your service isn't the way you want it,
>>> that gives you the right to act like an ass. *How exactly does that make
>>> things better?
>>
>>> Throwing food on the floor is little more than an adult temper tantrum.
>>> * "Wah... wah... I want it my way and I want it NOW!!!!! *Wah... wah..."
>>> * Maybe it would have more effect if you stamped your little feet and
>>> banged your head on the table while you did this. *You could even try
>>> holding your breath!!!
>>
>>> If you want to "punish" a restaurant, let them know you are unhappy with
>>> the way they do business and you won't be coming back.
>>
>>> George L
>>
>> really, it doesn't seem that hard.
>
> It's not enough. My policy is to counter unreasonableness with
> greater unreasonableness. It's enjoyable. Remember the dog shit on
> the carpet?
> Butthole surfing?

way to defend yourself. those are actions of a psychopath, not a man.

blake