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John Kuthe wrote:
> On Jun 22, 7:26 pm, Food Snob® > wrote: >> On Jun 20, 6:37 pm, John Kuthe > wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Jun 20, 5:47 pm, Food Snob® > wrote: >>>> On Jun 20, 4:54 pm, ImStillMags > wrote: >>>>> On Jun 20, 2:48 pm, Food Snob® > wrote: >>>>>> On Jun 20, 12:48 pm, ImStillMags > wrote: >>>>>>> I do a fruit and yogurt smoothie in the morning. I usually have it >>>>>>> with a piece or two of Ezekiel sprouted raisin bread toast. >>>>>>> After doing some research on the health and nutritional advantages of >>>>>>> coconut oil, I've started adding a tablespoon of organic extra virgin >>>>>>> coconut oil to my morning smoothie. >>>>>>> The extra virgin coconut oil retains most of the coconut flavor. >>>>>>> I've really been liking the >>>>>>> addition of coconut flavor to the smoothie. >>>>>>> Here's what I typically make each morning: >>>>>>> 1/4 cup whey or hemp protein powder (better for you >>>>>>> than soy) >>>>>>> 1/3 cup fresh or frozen cranberries >>>>>>> 1/3 cup fresh or frozen blueberries >>>>>>> 4 or 5 medium fresh or frozen strawberries (I buy organic >>>>>>> fresh when available) >>>>>>> 1 small banana >>>>>>> 1/3 cup fresh pineapple chunks >>>>>>> 1/3 cup yogurt -- plain, no sweeteners >>>>>>> 1 packet Stevia or Xylotol sweetener ( if you like >>>>>>> your smoothie sweeter) >>>>>>> 1/2 cup orange juice, not from concentrate >>>>>>> 1/2 cup water >>>>>>> 1 tblsp organic extra virgin coconut oil >>>>>>> 1 tblsp fresh ground flax seeds >>>>>>> I grind flax seeds, enough for the week, and keep them in the fridge >>>>>>> in a tightly covered container. I also freeze peeled bananas >>>>>>> individually in plastic sandwich baggies when I buy a big bunch. The >>>>>>> frozen bananas help make the smoothie cold. >>>>>>> This recipe makes one of those Texas Tea sized glasses full. >>>>>> Healthy, low in carbs, except for the pineapple and banana, and while >>>>>> I'd rather shoot the flax seed stuff down, and chase it with the >>>>>> smoothie. >>>>>> If you enjoy the taste of stevia, more power to you. I can't stand >>>>>> it. Also, I'd prefer erythritol over xylitol, but would prefer >>>>>> sucralose (Splenda) over either. Still too high in carb and too low >>>>>> in fat for quick weight loss, but if it's part of your way of eating, >>>>>> and you're not trying to lose more, that's a very healthy, balanced, >>>>>> smoothie. >>>>>> --Bryan >>>>> The only stevia I've found that doesn't have that licorice taste is >>>>> made by the same people who make >>>>> Sugar In The Raw. It's called, coincidentally, Stevia In The Raw. >>>> I'd have to taste it to believe it. >>>>> I usually use xylotol for it's benefits rather >>>>> than stevia. I don't necessarily need the smoothie sweeter. >>>> Please explain the "benefits" of xylitol over erythritol. My nephew >>>> is a big fan of erythritol, and while I tolerate all the sugar >>>> alcohols, I am not fond of the chill effect, though I figure that >>>> could be something one could learn to like, like the way I got used to >>>> aspartame soda pop, and now sugar soda tastes just wrong. I've used >>>> both erythritol and xylitol, and like erythritol better, but since I >>>> fell off the low carb wagon, I haven't used either, and have been >>>> eating (nutritionally) like a *normal* American, albeit avoiding >>>> hydrogenated fats. I've gotten my alcohol consumption down to very >>>> low levels, but have been sloppy with carbs instead. I heard Kessler >>>> on the radio this morning (BBC), and I know all that stuff anyway, but >>>> I really need to rewire my brain as far as eating goes, and the >>>> biggest part of that is battling carb addiction. >>>> --Bryan >>> Bryan, you have weird fabby ideas about nutrition. The UDSA has some >>> VERY good information on suggested balanced nutrition plans. A group >>> of my fellow nursing students just gave a presentation to some girls >>> at Girls, Inc. on diet, nutrition and exercise and the health benefits >>> and risks. >>> He >>> MyPyramid.gov >> Kessler was the guy who was there at the time that the STUPID as **** >> pyramid was put into place, and has now realized its failings. > > An impeccable researched based rebuttal. NOT! ;-) > >> >> >>> The USDA just released their 2010 report. >>> Why do you think you can reinvent the wheel and out-think some of the >>> greatest medical, health, nutrition and exercise scientists in the >>> country? >> Because they are so decades behind (small "c") conservative. It is >> still legal to sell ****ing hydrogenated shortening in the USA. > > Making anything non-DRUG related illegal is very very difficult, > especially if it's profitable and enjoys major corporate sponsorship, > even if there's mounds of evidence that its bad for you. Look at > tobacco for one, and talking on a cellphone while driving, etc. (Of > course when fake marijuana comes out like that K2 stuff, they make > that illegal as fast as you can blink an eye.) > > Legal or illegal never was, isn't and never will be a good gauge to > judge much by. > > > >>> What YOU need to do is eat more fresh fruits and VEGETABLES, >>> back off the protein (yeah, steaks are yummy but...) >> And you can go **** yourself. People's protein requirements vary >> widely. There's no question that more green veggies are good for >> everyone, and that I eat less of those than is optimal, but no one >> achieves health perfection, and those who get close to it are often >> giving up pleasures/taking on displeasures that make quantity of life >> less desirable. > > "People's protein requirements vary widely"? You are not growing > anymore, have no major injuries or surgeries healing, etc. So your > protein requirements are merely maintenance, as are mine. And why not > get some or a majority of those protein requirements from non-MEAT > sources, except for you (and my) love eating dead animal flesh? I eat > beans and rice every morning (with a modicum of ham and bacon, I'm > guilty as sin too!) > > What does your blood pressure run? Mine's about 120/80, which is > actually classified now as borderline pre-hypertensive. I have a > sphygmomanometer and stethoscope, if you ever want to know. > > >>> and get at least 30 minutes of exercise most days of the week. >> I get shitloads of exercise at work, then playing sports with Johnny. > > More than I'm getting lately, even with riding my bicycle to and from > school, which isn't really that much exercise. I liked riding 3 laps > around Forest Park 3 to 5 days a week like I was before I got into > this accelerated BSN program. I dropped 20 lbs too! Gained 'em all > back now though. :-( > > >>> And stop eating so darned MUCH! >> Gee, aren't you the buzzkill. > > I eat too much too. But I admit it! > > >>> The girls at Girls,Inc. were amazed by the USDA's portion >>> size recommendations, and I think you will be too! You don't need a lb >>> + of steak a day. Far from it! >> I understand the appeal of anything called "Girls" anything, but >> seriously... > > >>> And carbs are NOT the enemy! >> You've never been a fatty. > > I kinda am right now, at least more than I should be. > > John Kuthe... It's all of those yummy chocolate-covered candies. I'd be happy to rid you of some. -- Jean B. |
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On Jun 22, 10:08*pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote: > > On Jun 22, 7:26 pm, Food Snob > wrote: > >> On Jun 20, 6:37 pm, John Kuthe > wrote: > > >>> On Jun 20, 5:47 pm, Food Snob > wrote: > >>>> On Jun 20, 4:54 pm, ImStillMags > wrote: > >>>>> On Jun 20, 2:48 pm, Food Snob > wrote: > >>>>>> On Jun 20, 12:48 pm, ImStillMags > wrote: > >>>>>>> I do a fruit and yogurt smoothie in the morning. *I usually have it > >>>>>>> with a piece or two of Ezekiel sprouted raisin bread toast. > >>>>>>> After doing some research on the health and nutritional advantages of > >>>>>>> coconut oil, I've started adding a tablespoon of organic extra virgin > >>>>>>> coconut oil to my morning smoothie. > >>>>>>> The extra virgin coconut oil retains most of the coconut flavor. > >>>>>>> I've really been liking the > >>>>>>> addition of coconut flavor to the smoothie. > >>>>>>> Here's what I typically make each morning: > >>>>>>> * *1/4 * * *cup * * * * * *whey or hemp protein powder (better for you > >>>>>>> than soy) > >>>>>>> * *1/3 * * *cup * * * * * *fresh or frozen cranberries > >>>>>>> * *1/3 * * *cup * * * * * *fresh or frozen blueberries > >>>>>>> * *4 or 5 * medium * *fresh *or frozen strawberries (I buy organic > >>>>>>> fresh when available) > >>>>>>> * * *1 * * *small * * * * * banana > >>>>>>> * *1/3 * * cup * * * * * * fresh pineapple chunks > >>>>>>> * *1/3 * * *cup * * * * * *yogurt -- plain, no sweeteners > >>>>>>> * * *1 * * * packet * * * Stevia or Xylotol sweetener ( if you like > >>>>>>> your smoothie sweeter) > >>>>>>> * * *1/2 * * cup * * * * * orange juice, not from concentrate > >>>>>>> * * *1/2 * * cup * * * * * water > >>>>>>> * * *1 * * * tblsp * * * * *organic extra virgin coconut oil > >>>>>>> * * *1 * * * tblsp * * * * *fresh ground flax seeds > >>>>>>> I grind flax seeds, enough for the week, *and keep them in the fridge > >>>>>>> in a tightly covered container. * * I also freeze *peeled bananas > >>>>>>> individually *in plastic sandwich baggies when I buy a big bunch. *The > >>>>>>> frozen bananas help make the smoothie cold. > >>>>>>> This recipe makes one of those Texas Tea sized glasses full. > >>>>>> Healthy, low in carbs, except for the pineapple and banana, and while > >>>>>> I'd rather shoot the flax seed stuff down, and chase it with the > >>>>>> smoothie. > >>>>>> If you enjoy the taste of stevia, more power to you. *I can't stand > >>>>>> it. *Also, I'd prefer erythritol over xylitol, but would prefer > >>>>>> sucralose (Splenda) over either. *Still too high in carb and too low > >>>>>> in fat for quick weight loss, but if it's part of your way of eating, > >>>>>> and you're not trying to lose more, that's a very healthy, balanced, > >>>>>> smoothie. > >>>>>> --Bryan > >>>>> The only stevia I've found that doesn't have that licorice taste is > >>>>> made by the same people who make > >>>>> Sugar In The Raw. * It's called, coincidentally, Stevia In The Raw. > >>>> I'd have to taste it to believe it. > >>>>> I usually use xylotol for it's benefits rather > >>>>> than stevia. * I don't necessarily need the smoothie sweeter. > >>>> Please explain the "benefits" of xylitol over erythritol. *My nephew > >>>> is a big fan of erythritol, and while I tolerate all the sugar > >>>> alcohols, I am not fond of the chill effect, though I figure that > >>>> could be something one could learn to like, like the way I got used to > >>>> aspartame soda pop, and now sugar soda tastes just wrong. *I've used > >>>> both erythritol and xylitol, and like erythritol better, but since I > >>>> fell off the low carb wagon, I haven't used either, and have been > >>>> eating (nutritionally) like a *normal* American, albeit avoiding > >>>> hydrogenated fats. *I've gotten my alcohol consumption down to very > >>>> low levels, but have been sloppy with carbs instead. *I heard Kessler > >>>> on the radio this morning (BBC), and I know all that stuff anyway, but > >>>> I really need to rewire my brain as far as eating goes, and the > >>>> biggest part of that is battling carb addiction. > >>>> --Bryan > >>> Bryan, you have weird fabby ideas about nutrition. The UDSA has some > >>> VERY good information on suggested balanced nutrition plans. A group > >>> of my fellow nursing students just gave a presentation to some girls > >>> at Girls, Inc. on diet, nutrition and exercise and the health benefits > >>> and risks. > >>> He > >>> MyPyramid.gov > >> Kessler was the guy who was there at the time that the STUPID as **** > >> pyramid was put into place, and has now realized its failings. > > > An impeccable researched based rebuttal. NOT! ;-) > > >>> The USDA just released their 2010 report. > >>> Why do you think you can reinvent the wheel and out-think some of the > >>> greatest medical, health, nutrition and exercise scientists in the > >>> country? > >> Because they are so decades behind (small "c") conservative. *It is > >> still legal to sell ****ing hydrogenated shortening in the USA. > > > Making anything non-DRUG related illegal is very very difficult, > > especially if it's profitable and enjoys major corporate sponsorship, > > even if there's mounds of evidence that its bad for you. Look at > > tobacco for one, and talking on a cellphone while driving, etc. (Of > > course when fake marijuana comes out like that K2 stuff, they make > > that illegal as fast as you can blink an eye.) > > > Legal or illegal never was, isn't and never will be a good gauge to > > judge much by. > > >>> What YOU need to do is eat more fresh fruits and VEGETABLES, > >>> back off the protein (yeah, steaks are yummy but...) > >> And you can go **** yourself. *People's protein requirements vary > >> widely. *There's no question that more green veggies are good for > >> everyone, and that I eat less of those than is optimal, but no one > >> achieves health perfection, and those who get close to it are often > >> giving up pleasures/taking on displeasures that make quantity of life > >> less desirable. > > > "People's protein requirements vary widely"? You are not growing > > anymore, have no major injuries or surgeries healing, etc. So your > > protein requirements are merely maintenance, as are mine. And why not > > get some or a majority of those protein requirements from non-MEAT > > sources, except for you (and my) love eating dead animal flesh? I eat > > beans and rice every morning (with a modicum of ham and bacon, I'm > > guilty as sin too!) > > > What does your blood pressure run? Mine's about 120/80, which is > > actually classified now as borderline pre-hypertensive. I have a > > sphygmomanometer and stethoscope, if you ever want to know. > > >>> and get at least 30 minutes of exercise most days of the week. > >> I get shitloads of exercise at work, then playing sports with Johnny. > > > More than I'm getting lately, even with riding my bicycle to and from > > school, which isn't really that much exercise. I liked riding 3 laps > > around Forest Park 3 to 5 days a week like I was before I got into > > this accelerated BSN program. I dropped 20 lbs too! Gained 'em all > > back now though. :-( > > >>> And stop eating so darned MUCH! > >> Gee, aren't you the buzzkill. > > > I eat too much too. But I admit it! > > >>> The girls at Girls,Inc. were amazed by the USDA's portion > >>> size recommendations, and I think you will be too! You don't need a lb > >>> + of steak a day. Far from it! > >> I understand the appeal of anything called "Girls" anything, but > >> seriously... > > >>> And carbs are NOT the enemy! > >> You've never been a fatty. > > > I kinda am right now, at least more than I should be. > > > John Kuthe... > > It's all of those yummy chocolate-covered candies. *I'd be happy > to rid you of some. > > -- > Jean B. All my left over Christmas Candy is long gone. Yes some ended up in my belly fat, I must admit! Mmmmmmmm! ;-) John Kuthe... |
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John Kuthe wrote:
> On Jun 22, 10:08 pm, "Jean B." > wrote: >> John Kuthe wrote: >>> On Jun 22, 7:26 pm, Food Snob > wrote: >>>> On Jun 20, 6:37 pm, John Kuthe > wrote: >>>>> On Jun 20, 5:47 pm, Food Snob > wrote: >>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:54 pm, ImStillMags > wrote: >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:48 pm, Food Snob > wrote: >>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 12:48 pm, ImStillMags > wrote: >>>>>>>>> I do a fruit and yogurt smoothie in the morning. I usually have it >>>>>>>>> with a piece or two of Ezekiel sprouted raisin bread toast. >>>>>>>>> After doing some research on the health and nutritional advantages of >>>>>>>>> coconut oil, I've started adding a tablespoon of organic extra virgin >>>>>>>>> coconut oil to my morning smoothie. >>>>>>>>> The extra virgin coconut oil retains most of the coconut flavor. >>>>>>>>> I've really been liking the >>>>>>>>> addition of coconut flavor to the smoothie. >>>>>>>>> Here's what I typically make each morning: >>>>>>>>> 1/4 cup whey or hemp protein powder (better for you >>>>>>>>> than soy) >>>>>>>>> 1/3 cup fresh or frozen cranberries >>>>>>>>> 1/3 cup fresh or frozen blueberries >>>>>>>>> 4 or 5 medium fresh or frozen strawberries (I buy organic >>>>>>>>> fresh when available) >>>>>>>>> 1 small banana >>>>>>>>> 1/3 cup fresh pineapple chunks >>>>>>>>> 1/3 cup yogurt -- plain, no sweeteners >>>>>>>>> 1 packet Stevia or Xylotol sweetener ( if you like >>>>>>>>> your smoothie sweeter) >>>>>>>>> 1/2 cup orange juice, not from concentrate >>>>>>>>> 1/2 cup water >>>>>>>>> 1 tblsp organic extra virgin coconut oil >>>>>>>>> 1 tblsp fresh ground flax seeds >>>>>>>>> I grind flax seeds, enough for the week, and keep them in the fridge >>>>>>>>> in a tightly covered container. I also freeze peeled bananas >>>>>>>>> individually in plastic sandwich baggies when I buy a big bunch. The >>>>>>>>> frozen bananas help make the smoothie cold. >>>>>>>>> This recipe makes one of those Texas Tea sized glasses full. >>>>>>>> Healthy, low in carbs, except for the pineapple and banana, and while >>>>>>>> I'd rather shoot the flax seed stuff down, and chase it with the >>>>>>>> smoothie. >>>>>>>> If you enjoy the taste of stevia, more power to you. I can't stand >>>>>>>> it. Also, I'd prefer erythritol over xylitol, but would prefer >>>>>>>> sucralose (Splenda) over either. Still too high in carb and too low >>>>>>>> in fat for quick weight loss, but if it's part of your way of eating, >>>>>>>> and you're not trying to lose more, that's a very healthy, balanced, >>>>>>>> smoothie. >>>>>>>> --Bryan >>>>>>> The only stevia I've found that doesn't have that licorice taste is >>>>>>> made by the same people who make >>>>>>> Sugar In The Raw. It's called, coincidentally, Stevia In The Raw. >>>>>> I'd have to taste it to believe it. >>>>>>> I usually use xylotol for it's benefits rather >>>>>>> than stevia. I don't necessarily need the smoothie sweeter. >>>>>> Please explain the "benefits" of xylitol over erythritol. My nephew >>>>>> is a big fan of erythritol, and while I tolerate all the sugar >>>>>> alcohols, I am not fond of the chill effect, though I figure that >>>>>> could be something one could learn to like, like the way I got used to >>>>>> aspartame soda pop, and now sugar soda tastes just wrong. I've used >>>>>> both erythritol and xylitol, and like erythritol better, but since I >>>>>> fell off the low carb wagon, I haven't used either, and have been >>>>>> eating (nutritionally) like a *normal* American, albeit avoiding >>>>>> hydrogenated fats. I've gotten my alcohol consumption down to very >>>>>> low levels, but have been sloppy with carbs instead. I heard Kessler >>>>>> on the radio this morning (BBC), and I know all that stuff anyway, but >>>>>> I really need to rewire my brain as far as eating goes, and the >>>>>> biggest part of that is battling carb addiction. >>>>>> --Bryan >>>>> Bryan, you have weird fabby ideas about nutrition. The UDSA has some >>>>> VERY good information on suggested balanced nutrition plans. A group >>>>> of my fellow nursing students just gave a presentation to some girls >>>>> at Girls, Inc. on diet, nutrition and exercise and the health benefits >>>>> and risks. >>>>> He >>>>> MyPyramid.gov >>>> Kessler was the guy who was there at the time that the STUPID as **** >>>> pyramid was put into place, and has now realized its failings. >>> An impeccable researched based rebuttal. NOT! ;-) >>>>> The USDA just released their 2010 report. >>>>> Why do you think you can reinvent the wheel and out-think some of the >>>>> greatest medical, health, nutrition and exercise scientists in the >>>>> country? >>>> Because they are so decades behind (small "c") conservative. It is >>>> still legal to sell ****ing hydrogenated shortening in the USA. >>> Making anything non-DRUG related illegal is very very difficult, >>> especially if it's profitable and enjoys major corporate sponsorship, >>> even if there's mounds of evidence that its bad for you. Look at >>> tobacco for one, and talking on a cellphone while driving, etc. (Of >>> course when fake marijuana comes out like that K2 stuff, they make >>> that illegal as fast as you can blink an eye.) >>> Legal or illegal never was, isn't and never will be a good gauge to >>> judge much by. >>>>> What YOU need to do is eat more fresh fruits and VEGETABLES, >>>>> back off the protein (yeah, steaks are yummy but...) >>>> And you can go **** yourself. People's protein requirements vary >>>> widely. There's no question that more green veggies are good for >>>> everyone, and that I eat less of those than is optimal, but no one >>>> achieves health perfection, and those who get close to it are often >>>> giving up pleasures/taking on displeasures that make quantity of life >>>> less desirable. >>> "People's protein requirements vary widely"? You are not growing >>> anymore, have no major injuries or surgeries healing, etc. So your >>> protein requirements are merely maintenance, as are mine. And why not >>> get some or a majority of those protein requirements from non-MEAT >>> sources, except for you (and my) love eating dead animal flesh? I eat >>> beans and rice every morning (with a modicum of ham and bacon, I'm >>> guilty as sin too!) >>> What does your blood pressure run? Mine's about 120/80, which is >>> actually classified now as borderline pre-hypertensive. I have a >>> sphygmomanometer and stethoscope, if you ever want to know. >>>>> and get at least 30 minutes of exercise most days of the week. >>>> I get shitloads of exercise at work, then playing sports with Johnny. >>> More than I'm getting lately, even with riding my bicycle to and from >>> school, which isn't really that much exercise. I liked riding 3 laps >>> around Forest Park 3 to 5 days a week like I was before I got into >>> this accelerated BSN program. I dropped 20 lbs too! Gained 'em all >>> back now though. :-( >>>>> And stop eating so darned MUCH! >>>> Gee, aren't you the buzzkill. >>> I eat too much too. But I admit it! >>>>> The girls at Girls,Inc. were amazed by the USDA's portion >>>>> size recommendations, and I think you will be too! You don't need a lb >>>>> + of steak a day. Far from it! >>>> I understand the appeal of anything called "Girls" anything, but >>>> seriously... >>>>> And carbs are NOT the enemy! >>>> You've never been a fatty. >>> I kinda am right now, at least more than I should be. >>> John Kuthe... >> It's all of those yummy chocolate-covered candies. I'd be happy >> to rid you of some. >> >> -- >> Jean B. > > All my left over Christmas Candy is long gone. Yes some ended up in my > belly fat, I must admit! Mmmmmmmm! > > ;-) > > John Kuthe... Well, when you feel the urge to make those beauties again, keep this in mind! :-) -- Jean B. |
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"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
... > > You can say that again! My father has senile dementia. He has said > that he is just putting in his time. He knows that he has it, and that > he doesn't have much of a life. If someone can relieve some of their > senile dementia for a while, and trade that for a somewhat shortened > life ended mercifully by a heart attack, maybe that is worth it. I've had family members with dementia and it is very sad. I did a paper in my college class about preventing Alzheimer's, and it can be very much diet related. Trans fats (another of it's evils). Here's an excerpt: To help understand the way something as simple as diet can impact onset or prevention of Alzheimer's, it's important to understand that the brain is a fatty organ, and it works best with the addition of the correct kinds of fats in the diet (Tickell, 2007), and the opposite is true when it is exposed to the wrong kind of fats, such as trans fats which can be found in hydrogenated oil. A 2003 study in the Archives of Neurology surveyed 815 people over the age of 65 and found that those with high intake of trans fats were 20% more likely to develop Alzheimer's than those who did not have a high intake of trans fats, and that those who consumed a low amount of polyunsaturated fats were also 20% more likely to develop Alzheimer's than those who consumed more. So, by combining a low polyunsaturated fat/high trans fat diet will make a person 9 times more likely to develop Alzheimer's than one consuming a low trans fat/high polyunsaturated fat diet, according to the 2003 study. Consuming mono-unsaturated fats such as that found in oleic acid in olive oil could benefit brain chemistry and reduce degeneration, according to a 1999 study published in Neurology magazine. "This effect could be related to the role of fatty acids in maintaining the structural integrity of neuronal membranes" (Tickell, 2007). Omega-3 oils have successfully treated depression, ADHD and other mental disorders. A study published in the Archives of Neurology in 2006 suggest that the oils reduce build-up of the amyloid plaque linked with Alzheimer's in mice, and may also help humans. The study of early stage Alzheimer's patients given omega-3 supplements showed slowing of the symptoms including dementia. Other dietary inclusions that can slow progression of dementia are B12, polyphenal antioxidants in fruits and vegetables, vitamin D, turmeric (rich in the oily chemical curcumin which triggers defense mechanisms against free radicals - the cause of cellular damage), to name just a few. Of course, keeping active as we age is a very good preventative strategy. |
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In article >,
"Cheryl" > wrote: > Other dietary inclusions that can slow progression of dementia are B12, > polyphenal antioxidants in fruits and vegetables, vitamin D, turmeric (rich > in the oily chemical curcumin which triggers defense mechanisms against free > radicals - the cause of cellular damage), to name just a few. Of course, > keeping active as we age is a very good preventative strategy. Hm. I will have to consider more Indian cooking. Turmeric is a common ingredient! -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> *Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine |
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news ![]() > In article >, > "Cheryl" > wrote: > >> Other dietary inclusions that can slow progression of dementia are B12, >> polyphenal antioxidants in fruits and vegetables, vitamin D, turmeric >> (rich >> in the oily chemical curcumin which triggers defense mechanisms against >> free >> radicals - the cause of cellular damage), to name just a few. Of course, >> keeping active as we age is a very good preventative strategy. > > Hm. I will have to consider more Indian cooking. Turmeric is a common > ingredient! I take Turmeric supplements. |
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In article >,
"Cheryl" > wrote: > "Omelet" > wrote in message > news ![]() > > In article >, > > "Cheryl" > wrote: > > > >> Other dietary inclusions that can slow progression of dementia are B12, > >> polyphenal antioxidants in fruits and vegetables, vitamin D, turmeric > >> (rich > >> in the oily chemical curcumin which triggers defense mechanisms against > >> free > >> radicals - the cause of cellular damage), to name just a few. Of course, > >> keeping active as we age is a very good preventative strategy. > > > > Hm. I will have to consider more Indian cooking. Turmeric is a common > > ingredient! > > I take Turmeric supplements. > I might be able to get my pharmacist to pack the capsules for me... but would he take them? It's honestly easier to spike his food. -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> *Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine |
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Omelet > wrote:
> "Cheryl" > wrote: >> "Omelet" > wrote in message >> news ![]() >I might be able to get my pharmacist to pack the capsules for me... but >would he take them? It's honestly easier to spike his food. You can buy turmeric capsules (or if you prefer, curcumin extract). Me, I mix it with carrot juice. They're the same color, roughly, and the flavors are compatible. Other things I've tried, like turmeric and orange juice, are gross. One must be careful because it totally stains kitchen sinks, vinyl floors, and even plates and cups (if they're the "stoneware" type). Steve |
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(Steve Pope) wrote: > Omelet > wrote: > > > (Steve Pope) wrote: > > [ turmeric ] > > >> Me, I mix it with carrot juice. They're the same color, roughly, > >> and the flavors are compatible. Other things I've tried, like > >> turmeric and orange juice, are gross. > > >Imho, it goes best in rice? > > If definitely goes well in many foods (curry obviously, or > chili) and acceptably in others (spaghetti sauce). I have > not tried mixing it plain with rice. I think you need > a sauce to soak it up, due to its dry powdery nature. > > For just dosing myself with it, carrot juice does the trick. > For getting a fincky eater to consume it, I have no idea. > > Steve I suspect it'll mix well with eggs... -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> *Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine |
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Cheryl wrote:
> > I take Turmeric supplements. Curcumin (the yellow pigment in tumeric) both inhibits P-glycoprotein (the cell membrane protein that transports toxins out of the cell) and activates the steroid and xenobiotic receptor (SXR). In the short term, it inhibits the clearance of toxins and drugs. In the long term, it activates at the transcriptional level greater expression of the xenobiotic transporter P-gp and the main metabolizing enzyme in the human body CYP3A4. Oooh! You don't want that! That's why I stopped eating curry completely a few years ago. If I was ever diagnosed with cancer, I might already be in a state of multidrug resistance (up-regulation of expression of drug clearance enzymes), if I continued the high level of curry consumption I had for many years. That's also why I stopped eating Chinese chives. They contain another modulator of drug clearance. Those aren't the only foods that mess around with drug clearance. Yellow onions and grapefruit also do that. If you're on cancer chemotherapy or a recipient of an organ transplant (and taking the anti-rejection drug cyclosporine), you'll probably be given a list of foods to avoid. Any complete list will contain all of the foods I mentioned above, plus some herbal remedies such as St. John's Wort. SJW has caused organ rejection in some people, and failure of birth control drugs in other people because of its powerful up-regulation of the drug clearance enzymes. |
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On Jun 25, 12:33*am, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Cheryl wrote: > > > I take Turmeric supplements. > > Curcumin (the yellow pigment in tumeric) both inhibits > P-glycoprotein (the cell membrane protein that transports > toxins out of the cell) and activates the steroid and > xenobiotic receptor (SXR). *In the short term, it inhibits > the clearance of toxins and drugs. *In the long term, > it activates at the transcriptional level greater > expression of the xenobiotic transporter P-gp and the > main metabolizing enzyme in the human body CYP3A4. > Oooh! *You don't want that! > > That's why I stopped eating curry completely a few years > ago. *If I was ever diagnosed with cancer, I might > already be in a state of multidrug resistance (up-regulation > of expression of drug clearance enzymes), if I continued > the high level of curry consumption I had for many years. > > That's also why I stopped eating Chinese chives. *They > contain another modulator of drug clearance. > > Those aren't the only foods that mess around with drug > clearance. *Yellow onions and grapefruit also do that. Grapefruit almost killed someone I know by interfering with clearance of a blood pressure medication. --Bryan |
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:31:45 -0500, Omelet >
wrote: >In article >, > "Cheryl" > wrote: > >> Other dietary inclusions that can slow progression of dementia are B12, >> polyphenal antioxidants in fruits and vegetables, vitamin D, turmeric (rich >> in the oily chemical curcumin which triggers defense mechanisms against free >> radicals - the cause of cellular damage), to name just a few. Of course, >> keeping active as we age is a very good preventative strategy. > >Hm. I will have to consider more Indian cooking. Turmeric is a common >ingredient! Why stink up your house with Indian slop... there's plenty of turmeric in mustards. If you're really whacko for turmeric buy it ground and use it in baked goods, smoothies, soups, etc.... a small pinch will give chicken stock an attractive golden hue. |
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On Jun 24, 10:33*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Cheryl wrote: > > > I take Turmeric supplements. > > Curcumin (the yellow pigment in tumeric) both inhibits > P-glycoprotein (the cell membrane protein that transports > toxins out of the cell) and activates the steroid and > xenobiotic receptor (SXR). *In the short term, it inhibits > the clearance of toxins and drugs. *In the long term, > it activates at the transcriptional level greater > expression of the xenobiotic transporter P-gp and the > main metabolizing enzyme in the human body CYP3A4. > Oooh! *You don't want that! > > That's why I stopped eating curry completely a few years > ago. *If I was ever diagnosed with cancer, I might > already be in a state of multidrug resistance (up-regulation > of expression of drug clearance enzymes), if I continued > the high level of curry consumption I had for many years. > > That's also why I stopped eating Chinese chives. *They > contain another modulator of drug clearance. > > Those aren't the only foods that mess around with drug > clearance. *Yellow onions and grapefruit also do that. > If you're on cancer chemotherapy or a recipient of > an organ transplant (and taking the anti-rejection drug > cyclosporine), you'll probably be given a list of foods > to avoid. *Any complete list will contain all of the > foods I mentioned above, plus some herbal remedies such > as St. John's Wort. *SJW has caused organ rejection in > some people, and failure of birth control drugs in other > people because of its powerful up-regulation of the drug > clearance enzymes. Hey Mark......I'm certain that, if you look long enough and hard enough at any particular component of any particular food you can find a toxin that can possibly do harm. Personally I don't focus on the possibility of harm simply because of all these 'studies'. By the time you've obsessesd about all of them you are down to air and water and both have toxins in them that can kill you. All things in moderation. I don't believe anyone eats the amount of any particular food on a continuous basis that can actually cause the conditions found in these studies. Seriously, take a couple of steps back and look at the big picture. Just sayin.......... ;-) |
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>, ImStillMags > wrote: > On Jun 24, 10:33*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote: > > Cheryl wrote: > > > > > I take Turmeric supplements. > > > > Curcumin (the yellow pigment in tumeric) both inhibits > > P-glycoprotein (the cell membrane protein that transports > > toxins out of the cell) and activates the steroid and > > xenobiotic receptor (SXR). *In the short term, it inhibits > > the clearance of toxins and drugs. > > Those aren't the only foods that mess around with drug > > clearance. *Yellow onions and grapefruit also do that. > Hey Mark......I'm certain that, if you look long enough and hard > enough at any particular component of any particular food you can find > a toxin that can possibly do harm. > > Personally I don't focus on the possibility of harm simply because of > all these 'studies'. By the time you've obsessesd about all of them > you are down to air and water and both have toxins in them that can > kill you. > > All things in moderation. I don't believe anyone eats the amount of > any particular food on a continuous basis that can actually cause the > conditions found in these studies. I'm not too worried about turmeric (note that it isn't just curry, it's what makes yellow mustard yellow), because I don't eat much of it. I'm with you about not worrying about a lot of other stuff. But I take a statin for cholesterol, and it says right on the prescription bottle not to eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit juice. Well, that's not too hard for me to give up. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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On Jun 25, 7:26*am, Food Snob® > wrote:
> On Jun 25, 12:33*am, Mark Thorson > wrote: > > > > > Cheryl wrote: > > > > I take Turmeric supplements. > > > Curcumin (the yellow pigment in tumeric) both inhibits > > P-glycoprotein (the cell membrane protein that transports > > toxins out of the cell) and activates the steroid and > > xenobiotic receptor (SXR). *In the short term, it inhibits > > the clearance of toxins and drugs. *In the long term, > > it activates at the transcriptional level greater > > expression of the xenobiotic transporter P-gp and the > > main metabolizing enzyme in the human body CYP3A4. > > Oooh! *You don't want that! > > > That's why I stopped eating curry completely a few years > > ago. *If I was ever diagnosed with cancer, I might > > already be in a state of multidrug resistance (up-regulation > > of expression of drug clearance enzymes), if I continued > > the high level of curry consumption I had for many years. > > > That's also why I stopped eating Chinese chives. *They > > contain another modulator of drug clearance. > > > Those aren't the only foods that mess around with drug > > clearance. *Yellow onions and grapefruit also do that. > > Grapefruit almost killed someone I know by interfering with clearance > of a blood pressure medication. > > --Bryan Grapefruits are weird. They interact with a LOT of medications. John Kuthe... |
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ImStillMags wrote:
> > Hey Mark......I'm certain that, if you look long enough and hard > enough at any particular component of any particular food you can find > a toxin that can possibly do harm. But there are certain foods which stand head-and-shoulders above the others as health risks. I wouldn't worry about carotoxin poisoning from carrots, but I would worry about saturated fats, oxalic acid, and SXR agonists. Saturated fats cause cardiovascular disease. Oxalic acid causes kidney stones (I had one from eating too much spinach). SXR agonists up-regulate the enzymes of drug clearance. These are not minor risks. They can be life-threatening. > Personally I don't focus on the possibility of harm simply because of > all these 'studies'. By the time you've obsessesd about all of them > you are down to air and water and both have toxins in them that can > kill you. That is the argument for ignoring the scientific evidence. And it's not true. Only a few foods have a significant body of evidence that they are risky. Just throwing up your hands and saying everything is toxic if you pick it apart is incorrect, and it is nothing more than a defense mechanism against scientific evidence you don't want to accept because it goes against what you wish to believe. Not everything you wish to believe is true. |
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On Jun 25, 9:51*am, ImStillMags > wrote:
> On Jun 24, 10:33*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote: > > > > > > > Cheryl wrote: > > > > I take Turmeric supplements. > > > Curcumin (the yellow pigment in tumeric) both inhibits > > P-glycoprotein (the cell membrane protein that transports > > toxins out of the cell) and activates the steroid and > > xenobiotic receptor (SXR). *In the short term, it inhibits > > the clearance of toxins and drugs. *In the long term, > > it activates at the transcriptional level greater > > expression of the xenobiotic transporter P-gp and the > > main metabolizing enzyme in the human body CYP3A4. > > Oooh! *You don't want that! > > > That's why I stopped eating curry completely a few years > > ago. *If I was ever diagnosed with cancer, I might > > already be in a state of multidrug resistance (up-regulation > > of expression of drug clearance enzymes), if I continued > > the high level of curry consumption I had for many years. > > > That's also why I stopped eating Chinese chives. *They > > contain another modulator of drug clearance. > > > Those aren't the only foods that mess around with drug > > clearance. *Yellow onions and grapefruit also do that. > > If you're on cancer chemotherapy or a recipient of > > an organ transplant (and taking the anti-rejection drug > > cyclosporine), you'll probably be given a list of foods > > to avoid. *Any complete list will contain all of the > > foods I mentioned above, plus some herbal remedies such > > as St. John's Wort. *SJW has caused organ rejection in > > some people, and failure of birth control drugs in other > > people because of its powerful up-regulation of the drug > > clearance enzymes. > > Hey Mark......I'm certain that, if you look long enough and hard > enough at any particular component of any particular food you can find > a toxin that can possibly do harm. You're "certain," eh? Do you have a magical unicorn or an oracle? > > Personally I don't focus on the possibility of harm simply because of > all these 'studies'. * By the time you've obsessesd about all of them > you are down to air and water and both have toxins in them that can > kill you. "Studies" by scientists are the way we know things, but I guess you have a better source. Perhaps your ignoramus sister? > > All things in moderation. * *I don't believe anyone eats the amount of > any particular food on a continuous basis that can actually cause the > conditions found in these studies. You "don't believe." Your beliefs do not affect, nor reflect reality. > > Seriously, take a couple of steps back and look at the big picture. > Just sayin.......... *;-) Pretty much everything you wrote is a load of crap. Conventional wisdom. --Bryan |
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:03:22 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote: > Grapefruits are weird. They interact with a LOT of medications. I wonder why grapefruit and not lemon, lime or pineapple? -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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On Jun 25, 8:59*am, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:31:45 -0500, Omelet > > wrote: > > >In article >, > > "Cheryl" > wrote: > > >> Other dietary inclusions that can slow progression of dementia are B12, > >> polyphenal antioxidants in fruits and vegetables, vitamin D, turmeric (rich > >> in the oily chemical curcumin which triggers defense mechanisms against free > >> radicals - the cause of cellular damage), to name just a few. *Of course, > >> keeping active as we age is a very good preventative strategy. > > >Hm. I will have to consider more Indian cooking. *Turmeric is a common > >ingredient! > > Why stink up your house with Indian slop... there's plenty of turmeric > in mustards. *If you're really whacko for turmeric buy it ground and > use it in baked goods, smoothies, soups, etc.... a small pinch will > give chicken stock an attractive golden hue. In one of the ads I'm writing up about the house I'm putting up for rent I'm mentioning that one of the advantages of a house over an apartment is not having to smell nasty cooking smells coming from the other apartments. I detest the smell of curry, but also the smell of great northern beans and ham. --Bryan |
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On Jun 25, 2:26*pm, Food Snob® > wrote:
> On Jun 25, 8:59*am, brooklyn1 > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:31:45 -0500, Omelet > > > wrote: > > > >In article >, > > > "Cheryl" > wrote: > > > >> Other dietary inclusions that can slow progression of dementia are B12, > > >> polyphenal antioxidants in fruits and vegetables, vitamin D, turmeric (rich > > >> in the oily chemical curcumin which triggers defense mechanisms against free > > >> radicals - the cause of cellular damage), to name just a few. *Of course, > > >> keeping active as we age is a very good preventative strategy. > > > >Hm. I will have to consider more Indian cooking. *Turmeric is a common > > >ingredient! > > > Why stink up your house with Indian slop... there's plenty of turmeric > > in mustards. *If you're really whacko for turmeric buy it ground and > > use it in baked goods, smoothies, soups, etc.... a small pinch will > > give chicken stock an attractive golden hue. > > In one of the ads I'm writing up about the house I'm putting up for > rent I'm mentioning that one of the advantages of a house over an > apartment is not having to smell nasty cooking smells coming from the > other apartments. *I detest the smell of curry, but also the smell of > great northern beans and ham. > > --Bryan Oh, you'd hate what I just had for lunch/dinner then! Schnuck's had skinless boneless chicken breasts on sale for $1.89 for the family pack and I bought 4 of 'em! So I just made curried chicken again, after having been without for the longest time. I love curries! YUM! Many don't, I guess though. I remember a Nepalese housemate I had once warned us that she liked to cook and that it might stink up the house. I told her I didn't consider that to be a bad thing (no one else living there minded either), and she moved in. That's part of where I learned to cook curries! Key to curries: LOTS of spices! John Kuthe... |
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sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:03:22 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe > > wrote: > > > Grapefruits are weird. They interact with a LOT of medications. > > I wonder why grapefruit and not lemon, lime or pineapple? Grapefruit has much more naringin than other citrus, which gives grapefruit its bitter taste, and this may be the reason, but the exact cause is still controversial. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...tool=pmcentrez http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naringin |
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:26:19 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob®
> wrote: >On Jun 25, 8:59*am, brooklyn1 > wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:31:45 -0500, Omelet > >> wrote: >> >> >In article >, >> > "Cheryl" > wrote: >> >> >> Other dietary inclusions that can slow progression of dementia are B12, >> >> polyphenal antioxidants in fruits and vegetables, vitamin D, turmeric (rich >> >> in the oily chemical curcumin which triggers defense mechanisms against free >> >> radicals - the cause of cellular damage), to name just a few. *Of course, >> >> keeping active as we age is a very good preventative strategy. >> >> >Hm. I will have to consider more Indian cooking. *Turmeric is a common >> >ingredient! >> >> Why stink up your house with Indian slop... there's plenty of turmeric >> in mustards. *If you're really whacko for turmeric buy it ground and >> use it in baked goods, smoothies, soups, etc.... a small pinch will >> give chicken stock an attractive golden hue. > >In one of the ads I'm writing up about the house I'm putting up for >rent I'm mentioning that one of the advantages of a house over an >apartment is not having to smell nasty cooking smells coming from the >other apartments. I detest the smell of curry, but also the smell of >great northern beans and ham. You think tenants don't know that... duh... that's as dumb as dumb gets. Putting something like that in an ad is inflammatory will only attract the very worst kind of tenants. There is no way to dictate what tenants cook or to know their personal hygiene habits... word to the wise, never give a lease, keep it month to month... and never ever tell tenants what irks you. |
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"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
... > Cheryl wrote: >> >> I take Turmeric supplements. > > Curcumin (the yellow pigment in tumeric) both inhibits > P-glycoprotein (the cell membrane protein that transports > toxins out of the cell) and activates the steroid and > xenobiotic receptor (SXR). In the short term, it inhibits > the clearance of toxins and drugs. In the long term, > it activates at the transcriptional level greater > expression of the xenobiotic transporter P-gp and the > main metabolizing enzyme in the human body CYP3A4. > Oooh! You don't want that! Oy. Well, my doctor said turmeric also has anti-inflammatory properties so would be ok to up the dose. |
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"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
... > > But there are certain foods which stand head-and-shoulders > above the others as health risks. I wouldn't worry about > carotoxin poisoning from carrots, but I would worry about > saturated fats, oxalic acid, and SXR agonists. You're right of course, but I think you have to know what your risks are. For example, a few years ago my eye doctor thought I had early AMD (Age-related macular degeneration) and one of the "treatments" involves high doses of vitamin A. As a smoker, taking regular doses of vitamin A increases my chances of getting lung cancer. Even ex-smokers are at risk of this by taking the high dose, so it does me no good to even quit to take the treatment. Eye doctor has changed his mind, thank goodness. I was a new patient to him at the time, and he just monitored for a few years for changes. None. |
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brooklyn1 > wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:31:45 -0500, Omelet > > wrote: > > >In article >, > > "Cheryl" > wrote: > > > >> Other dietary inclusions that can slow progression of dementia are B12, > >> polyphenal antioxidants in fruits and vegetables, vitamin D, turmeric > >> (rich > >> in the oily chemical curcumin which triggers defense mechanisms against > >> free > >> radicals - the cause of cellular damage), to name just a few. Of course, > >> keeping active as we age is a very good preventative strategy. > > > >Hm. I will have to consider more Indian cooking. Turmeric is a common > >ingredient! > > Why stink up your house with Indian slop... there's plenty of turmeric > in mustards. If you're really whacko for turmeric buy it ground and > use it in baked goods, smoothies, soups, etc.... a small pinch will > give chicken stock an attractive golden hue. It is not turmeric that causes that typical Indian cooking smell babe. It is Fenugreek.:-) And I actually like that... in VERY small amounts/ -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine |
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