"Wayne Boatwright" wrote:

> This is more of a procedure than a recipe, but I make this whenever
> I
> have limited time and not in a mood for a tomato based sauce.
<snip>
-----------------------
I'll see you your "procedure" and raise you a Carbonara for simplicity
and GOOD taste.

Then of course there is Whore's pasta.

Even simpler.

Lew

Christine wrote:

> I might go even simpler this week. I got some REAL tomatoes at the
> Saturday farmers market here.. I am thinking of making an uncooked
> sauce with them...with garlic sauteed in a bit of olive oil.. To go
> over hot pasta. Oh, with fresh basil too.

Last summer I became a fan of the Spanish technique of rubbing a cut tomato
against a coarse grater to remove and mince the flesh while leaving the peel
behind. Just imagine hot pasta with that raw tomato puree, garlic, raw
zucchini brunoise, parsley, and grated Manchego cheese. Maybe with a glass
of tempranillo.


Bob

Bob wrote on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:47:19 -0700:

>> I might go even simpler this week. I got some REAL tomatoes
>> at the Saturday farmers market here.. I am thinking of
>> making an uncooked sauce with them...with garlic sauteed in a
>> bit of olive oil.. To go over hot pasta. Oh, with fresh
>> basil too.

> Last summer I became a fan of the Spanish technique of rubbing
> a cut tomato against a coarse grater to remove and mince the
> flesh while leaving the peel behind. Just imagine hot pasta
> with that raw tomato puree, garlic, raw zucchini brunoise,
> parsley, and grated Manchego cheese. Maybe with a glass of
> tempranillo.

No thank you! I have tried Nigella Lawson's uncooked "ur-Marinara" sauce
and you can keep it.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Wayne Boatwright wrote:


> I'm with you on that one, James. I really do enjoy raw fresh
> tomatoes, but preferable just sliced or in a salad.


Dang. I wish that I could eat tomatoes. I have fond memories of toasted
tomato sandwiches with tomatoes straight from the garden, or tomato and
lettuce with mayo.

In article > ,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>
> > I'm with you on that one, James. I really do enjoy raw fresh
> > tomatoes, but preferable just sliced or in a salad.
>
>
> Dang. I wish that I could eat tomatoes. I have fond memories of toasted
> tomato sandwiches with tomatoes straight from the garden, or tomato and
> lettuce with mayo.

You are allergic to them? Damn that sucks. And I thought my wheat
allergy was an issue.

Tomatoes and I don't get along very well, but at least they won't kill
me...
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Omelet wrote:
>
>
> You are allergic to them? Damn that sucks. And I thought my wheat
> allergy was an issue.
>
> Tomatoes and I don't get along very well, but at least they won't kill
> me...


Allergy tests done years ago indicated allergies to tomatoes and
potatoes. Neither is extremely serious, but they cause digestive
problems. I can get away with small amounts. I eat a small serving of
potato once every week or two and have the occasional bit of tomato.
Forget about pasta with a tomato sauce. It's not worth it for me.

Omelet wrote:

>> Allergy tests done years ago indicated allergies to tomatoes and
>> potatoes. Neither is extremely serious, but they cause digestive
>> problems. I can get away with small amounts. I eat a small serving of
>> potato once every week or two and have the occasional bit of tomato.
>> Forget about pasta with a tomato sauce. It's not worth it for me.
>
> The nightshade family does not agree with me much either.
> I have to wonder if gluten/wheat and nightshade sensitivities are
> related?

I don't have a problem with wheat. However, I am lactose intolerant.
Mozzeralla is a young cheese high in lactose, so you can understand why
the standard Italian dishes using tomatoes and young cheeses have
compounding side effects. :-(

In article > ,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> >> Allergy tests done years ago indicated allergies to tomatoes and
> >> potatoes. Neither is extremely serious, but they cause digestive
> >> problems. I can get away with small amounts. I eat a small serving of
> >> potato once every week or two and have the occasional bit of tomato.
> >> Forget about pasta with a tomato sauce. It's not worth it for me.
> >
> > The nightshade family does not agree with me much either.
> > I have to wonder if gluten/wheat and nightshade sensitivities are
> > related?
>
> I don't have a problem with wheat. However, I am lactose intolerant.
> Mozzeralla is a young cheese high in lactose, so you can understand why
> the standard Italian dishes using tomatoes and young cheeses have
> compounding side effects. :-(

Do you do ok with hard cheeses?
I've read that riper cheeses (soft ones like Havarti and brie) are ripe
enough to be lower in Lactose.

Gut issues are not the least bit funny. I understand totally.
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On 6/22/2010 11:23 AM, Omelet wrote:
> In ng.com>,
> Dave > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>
>>>> Allergy tests done years ago indicated allergies to tomatoes and
>>>> potatoes. Neither is extremely serious, but they cause digestive
>>>> problems. I can get away with small amounts. I eat a small serving of
>>>> potato once every week or two and have the occasional bit of tomato.
>>>> Forget about pasta with a tomato sauce. It's not worth it for me.
>>>
>>> The nightshade family does not agree with me much either.
>>> I have to wonder if gluten/wheat and nightshade sensitivities are
>>> related?
>>
>> I don't have a problem with wheat. However, I am lactose intolerant.
>> Mozzeralla is a young cheese high in lactose, so you can understand why
>> the standard Italian dishes using tomatoes and young cheeses have
>> compounding side effects. :-(
>
> Do you do ok with hard cheeses?
> I've read that riper cheeses (soft ones like Havarti and brie) are ripe
> enough to be lower in Lactose.
>
> Gut issues are not the least bit funny. I understand totally.

And can come on with age. My wife is suddenly lactose intolerant and has
been using (ugh!)soy milk. Milk in other products doesn't seem to bother
her, as no cheese does, milk alone messes her up pretty good. This woman
has always had a glass of milk with her breakfast in the 52 years I've
known her. Me, I gave up drinking milk, other than on cereal, when I was
weaned.

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> > Gut issues are not the least bit funny. I understand totally.
>
> And can come on with age.

Very true! My wheat issues have gotten worse with age. I used to be
able to tolerate small amounts. That's getting to be no longer true. :-(
Sucks too as I love sourdough.

> My wife is suddenly lactose intolerant and has
> been using (ugh!)soy milk. Milk in other products doesn't seem to bother
> her, as no cheese does, milk alone messes her up pretty good. This woman
> has always had a glass of milk with her breakfast in the 52 years I've
> known her. Me, I gave up drinking milk, other than on cereal, when I was
> weaned.

I gave up milk a long time ago but that was due to the low carb
lifestyle issues. That and drinking calories... It is easy to drink a
LOT of calories. I'd rather eat them and stick with non or low caloric
beverages.
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Omelet wrote:

>> I don't have a problem with wheat. However, I am lactose intolerant.
>> Mozzeralla is a young cheese high in lactose, so you can understand why
>> the standard Italian dishes using tomatoes and young cheeses have
>> compounding side effects. :-(
>
> Do you do ok with hard cheeses?
> I've read that riper cheeses (soft ones like Havarti and brie) are ripe
> enough to be lower in Lactose.

I tend not to eat much cheese at all. I do have a weakness, which
doesn't seem to bother me. Cheap cheddar is gas city for me.


> Gut issues are not the least bit funny. I understand totally.

At least it is good to know what foods cause the problems so they can be
avoided.

George Shirley wrote:

> And can come on with age. My wife is suddenly lactose intolerant and has
> been using (ugh!)soy milk. Milk in other products doesn't seem to bother
> her, as no cheese does, milk alone messes her up pretty good. This woman
> has always had a glass of milk with her breakfast in the 52 years I've
> known her. Me, I gave up drinking milk, other than on cereal, when I was
> weaned.

I never did like milk. When I was a kid I could choke it down with
chocolate, but drinking straight milk always left me feeling like I had
a wad of phlegm sliding down my throat. If I were dying of thirst and
the only thing to drink was milk it probably would not occur to me to
drink it. However, it is good on cereal and porridge, and in puddings.
Thank goodness for Lactaid pills.

Dave Smith wrote:

> I never did like milk. When I was a kid I could choke it down with
> chocolate, but drinking straight milk always left me feeling like I had a
> wad of phlegm sliding down my throat. If I were dying of thirst and the
> only thing to drink was milk it probably would not occur to me to drink
> it. However, it is good on cereal and porridge, and in puddings. Thank
> goodness for Lactaid pills.

I drink a lot of milk. Probably close to a quart a day, and more than that
if I've just made something with chocolate. My coffee preference is 50%
coffee and 50% milk.

Bob

On Jun 23, 2:32*am, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > I never did like milk. When I was a kid I could choke it down with
> > chocolate, but drinking straight milk always left me feeling like I had a
> > wad of phlegm sliding down my throat. If I were dying of thirst and the
> > only thing to drink was milk it probably would not occur to me to drink
> > it. However, it is good on cereal and porridge, and in puddings. Thank
> > goodness for Lactaid pills.
>
> I drink a lot of milk. Probably close to a quart a day, and more than that
> if I've just made something with chocolate. My coffee preference is 50%
> coffee and 50% milk.

Half whole milk, half strong, drip Sumatra, 1/8 packet of Splenda.
The MW is about to ding.
>
> Bob

--Bryan

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> >> I don't have a problem with wheat. However, I am lactose intolerant.
> >> Mozzeralla is a young cheese high in lactose, so you can understand why
> >> the standard Italian dishes using tomatoes and young cheeses have
> >> compounding side effects. :-(
> >
> > Do you do ok with hard cheeses?
> > I've read that riper cheeses (soft ones like Havarti and brie) are ripe
> > enough to be lower in Lactose.
>
> I tend not to eat much cheese at all. I do have a weakness, which
> doesn't seem to bother me. Cheap cheddar is gas city for me.

I can eat cheese (no lactose intolerance) but tend to mostly avoid it as
it seems to interfere with weight loss even in very small amounts. Not
sure why, especially the lower carb ones, but it does.
Probably the fat content... altho' fat fasts work like a charm.

>
>
> > Gut issues are not the least bit funny. I understand totally.
>
> At least it is good to know what foods cause the problems so they can be
> avoided.

Yes. And it can take time to track the culprits.
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
>
>>> Gut issues are not the least bit funny. I understand totally.
>> At least it is good to know what foods cause the problems so they can be
>> avoided.
>
> Yes. And it can take time to track the culprits.

I suffered through my youth with gut cramps. It took me a long time to
realize it was something I was eating and not just something I thought
was part of life and had to be endured. I used to eat at least one
orange a day and/or grapefruit. It turned out that the primary culprit
was oranges and grapefruits.

On 6/23/2010 12:00 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 22 Jun 2010 08:50:09p, Dave Smith told us...
>
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>
>>> And can come on with age. My wife is suddenly lactose intolerant
>>> and has been using (ugh!)soy milk. Milk in other products doesn't
>>> seem to bother her, as no cheese does, milk alone messes her up
>>> pretty good. This woman has always had a glass of milk with her
>>> breakfast in the 52 years I've known her. Me, I gave up drinking
>>> milk, other than on cereal, when I was weaned.
>>
>> I never did like milk. When I was a kid I could choke it down with
>> chocolate, but drinking straight milk always left me feeling like
>> I had a wad of phlegm sliding down my throat. If I were dying of
>> thirst and the only thing to drink was milk it probably would not
>> occur to me to drink it. However, it is good on cereal and
>> porridge, and in puddings. Thank goodness for Lactaid pills.
>>
>
> I can't ever remember liking to drink milk whether it be full fat,
> 2%, 1%, or skim. The only type of milk I like to drink is
> buttermilk.

Store-bought buttermilk? Or the leftover after making butter kind?

> On cereal, I prefer half-and-half.

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> I never did like milk. When I was a kid I could choke it down with
>> chocolate, but drinking straight milk always left me feeling like I had a
>> wad of phlegm sliding down my throat. If I were dying of thirst and the
>> only thing to drink was milk it probably would not occur to me to drink
>> it. However, it is good on cereal and porridge, and in puddings. Thank
>> goodness for Lactaid pills.
>
> I drink a lot of milk. Probably close to a quart a day, and more than that
> if I've just made something with chocolate. My coffee preference is 50%
> coffee and 50% milk.
>
> Bob
>
>
That's about what I do--make VERY strong coffee and then add lots
of milk.
--
Jean B.

Jean B. wrote:
>
> That's about what I do--make VERY strong coffee and then add lots of milk.


I make strong coffee too, but drink it black. However, I start the day
with a bowl of cereal and porridge with a bit of whole milk and then a
latte. We buy milk in bags, and four liters of milk usually lasts at
least two weeks. I have to search through the milk in the store and get
one with a best before date two weeks down the line.

On Jun 23, 7:22*pm, Wayne Boatwright >
wrote:
> On Wed 23 Jun 2010 08:08:35a, J. Clarke told us...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 6/23/2010 12:00 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >> On Tue 22 Jun 2010 08:50:09p, Dave Smith told us...
>
> >>> George Shirley wrote:
>
> >>>> And can come on with age. My wife is suddenly lactose
> >>>> intolerant and has been using (ugh!)soy milk. Milk in other
> >>>> products doesn't seem to bother her, as no cheese does, milk
> >>>> alone messes her up pretty good. This woman has always had a
> >>>> glass of milk with her breakfast in the 52 years I've known
> >>>> her. Me, I gave up drinking milk, other than on cereal, when I
> >>>> was weaned.
>
> >>> I never did like milk. When I was a kid I could choke it down
> >>> with chocolate, but drinking straight milk always left me
> >>> feeling like I had a wad of phlegm sliding down my throat. If I
> >>> were dying of thirst and the only thing to drink was milk it
> >>> probably would not occur to me to drink it. However, it is good
> >>> on cereal and porridge, and in puddings. Thank goodness for
> >>> Lactaid pills.
>
> >> I can't ever remember liking to drink milk whether it be full
> >> fat, 2%, 1%, or skim. *The only type of milk I like to drink is
> >> buttermilk.
>
> > Store-bought buttermilk? *Or the leftover after making butter
> > kind?
>
> Most often the store-bought cultured buttermilk, as I have few
> opportunities to get the milk from home-churned butter. *However,
> either can be perpetuated from their native culture by making 3 cups
> of milk from dry milk poweder, adding 1 cup of either type of
> buttermilk, and allowing to clabber overnight at room temperature.
>
What is wrong with you, old man? "Dry milk poweder [sic]" is nasty,
but maybe you've lost enough sensory capacity not to be able to tell
the difference.
>
> * * * * * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright

--Bryan

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> >
> >>> Gut issues are not the least bit funny. I understand totally.
> >> At least it is good to know what foods cause the problems so they can be
> >> avoided.
> >
> > Yes. And it can take time to track the culprits.
>
> I suffered through my youth with gut cramps. It took me a long time to
> realize it was something I was eating and not just something I thought
> was part of life and had to be endured. I used to eat at least one
> orange a day and/or grapefruit. It turned out that the primary culprit
> was oranges and grapefruits.

I totally understand... It took me until my early 30's to recognize the
wheat allergy.
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