Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area before
pulling over and remember call *112.

It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a
friend.

An UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Lauren's
parents have always told her never to pull over for an unmarked car on the
side of the road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas station, etc.

Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called *112
on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over
right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked
police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The
dispatcher checked to see if there were police cars where she was and there
weren't, and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back
up already on the way.

Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground. The man was
a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.

I never knew about the *112 Cell Phone Feature, but especially for a woman
alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.
Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe place.

Speaking to a service representative at ** Bell ** Mobility confirmed that
*112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now it's your turn to let
your friends know about *112. You may want to Send this to every woman (and
man) you know; it may save a life.


This applies to ALL 50 states

" Joe" > ha scritto nel messaggio

> Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area before >
> pulling over and remember call *112.
>
> It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and >Lauren was driving to visit
> a > friend.

I have been reading some form of that for about 15 years now, only the name
and the time of day change.

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> " Joe" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>> Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area before >
>> pulling over and remember call *112.
>>
>> It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and >Lauren was driving to visit
>> a > friend.
>
> I have been reading some form of that for about 15 years now, only the
> name and the time of day change.
>

Yep, this urban legend has been floating around out there for years. Along
with the one about the $250 chocolate chip cookie recipe and waking up in a
bathtub full of ice and missing a kidney Most countries have an
emergency number to dial. (The one I know is 911, and in the U.S. you can
still dial '0' for Operator and get connected to emergency services.)

But there's a valid point hidden in the OP's post. Don't just pull over
simply because a car flashes a light at you (red, blue or whatever) if you
are in a remote area. I'm not saying lead the [possible] police in a merry
high-speed chase - simply drive to the nearest gas station or residential
area where you won't be alone on a dark stretch of highway. Most myths and
legends, urban or not, seem to be based on a small kernel of truth.

Jill

Joe wrote:
> Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area before
> pulling over and remember call *112.
>

You should read snopes-

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q...&sp-m=1&sp-s=0

" Joe" > wrote in message
...
> Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area before
> pulling over and remember call *112.
>
> It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a
> friend.
>
> An UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on.
> Lauren's parents have always told her never to pull over for an unmarked
> car on the side of the road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas
> station, etc.
>
> Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called
> *112 on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not
> pull over right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was
> an unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind
> her. The dispatcher checked to see if there were police cars where she was
> and there weren't, and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that
> he had back up already on the way.
>
> Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind
> her. One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car
> behind. They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground.
> The man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
>
> I never knew about the *112 Cell Phone Feature, but especially for a woman
> alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.
> Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe
> place.
>
> Speaking to a service representative at ** Bell ** Mobility confirmed that
> *112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now it's your turn to
> let your friends know about *112. You may want to Send this to every woman
> (and man) you know; it may save a life.
>
>
> This applies to ALL 50 states
>
>


Urban legend.

http://www.snopes.com/science/mobile.asp

Paul

On 7/2/2010 1:23 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> " > wrote in message
> ...
>> Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area before
>> pulling over and remember call *112.
>>
>> It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a
>> friend.
>>
>> An UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on.
>> Lauren's parents have always told her never to pull over for an unmarked
>> car on the side of the road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas
>> station, etc.
>>
>> Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called
>> *112 on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not
>> pull over right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was
>> an unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind
>> her. The dispatcher checked to see if there were police cars where she was
>> and there weren't, and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that
>> he had back up already on the way.
>>
>> Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind
>> her. One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car
>> behind. They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground.
>> The man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
>>
>> I never knew about the *112 Cell Phone Feature, but especially for a woman
>> alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.
>> Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe
>> place.
>>
>> Speaking to a service representative at ** Bell ** Mobility confirmed that
>> *112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now it's your turn to
>> let your friends know about *112. You may want to Send this to every woman
>> (and man) you know; it may save a life.
>>
>>
>> This applies to ALL 50 states
>>
>>
>
>
> Urban legend.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/science/mobile.asp

What part of it is an "urban legend"? That *112 gets emergency
services? In most of the world it does, including in the US if you're
using a GSM phone.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number>

That rapists have pretended to be cops? Google "fake cop rape" and
you'll find a remarkably large number of news stories.

That criminals have used dome lights and the like to make people pull
over to be victimized?
<http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20000661-504083.html>

That if you've got a cop behind you with his lights flashing and you
think that something's not kosher you should drive to a police station
or populated area or wait for another cop to show up?
<http://www.bbpd.org/traffic-vehicle-questions.htm#notpolicecar>.

The *112 part is the only one that isn't quite right and that's because
112 is the EU emergency number, not the primary US emergency number.

"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/2/2010 1:23 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> " > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area before
>>> pulling over and remember call *112.
>>>
>>> It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit
>>> a
>>> friend.
>>>
>>> An UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on.
>>> Lauren's parents have always told her never to pull over for an unmarked
>>> car on the side of the road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas
>>> station, etc.
>>>
>>> Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called
>>> *112 on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not
>>> pull over right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there
>>> was
>>> an unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind
>>> her. The dispatcher checked to see if there were police cars where she
>>> was
>>> and there weren't, and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that
>>> he had back up already on the way.
>>>
>>> Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind
>>> her. One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car
>>> behind. They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground.
>>> The man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
>>>
>>> I never knew about the *112 Cell Phone Feature, but especially for a
>>> woman
>>> alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.
>>> Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Speaking to a service representative at ** Bell ** Mobility confirmed
>>> that
>>> *112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now it's your turn to
>>> let your friends know about *112. You may want to Send this to every
>>> woman
>>> (and man) you know; it may save a life.
>>>
>>>
>>> This applies to ALL 50 states
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Urban legend.
>>
>> http://www.snopes.com/science/mobile.asp
>
> What part of it is an "urban legend"? That *112 gets emergency services?
> In most of the world it does, including in the US if you're using a GSM
> phone. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number>
>
> That rapists have pretended to be cops? Google "fake cop rape" and you'll
> find a remarkably large number of news stories.
>
> That criminals have used dome lights and the like to make people pull over
> to be victimized?
> <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20000661-504083.html>
>
> That if you've got a cop behind you with his lights flashing and you think
> that something's not kosher you should drive to a police station or
> populated area or wait for another cop to show up?
> <http://www.bbpd.org/traffic-vehicle-questions.htm#notpolicecar>.
>
> The *112 part is the only one that isn't quite right and that's because
> 112 is the EU emergency number, not the primary US emergency number.
>

"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/2/2010 1:23 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> " > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area before
>>> pulling over and remember call *112.
>>>
>>> It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit
>>> a
>>> friend.
>>>
>>> An UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on.
>>> Lauren's parents have always told her never to pull over for an unmarked
>>> car on the side of the road, but rather to wait until they get to a gas
>>> station, etc.
>>>
>>> Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called
>>> *112 on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not
>>> pull over right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there
>>> was
>>> an unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind
>>> her. The dispatcher checked to see if there were police cars where she
>>> was
>>> and there weren't, and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that
>>> he had back up already on the way.
>>>
>>> Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind
>>> her. One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car
>>> behind. They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground.
>>> The man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
>>>
>>> I never knew about the *112 Cell Phone Feature, but especially for a
>>> woman
>>> alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car.
>>> Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a safe
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Speaking to a service representative at ** Bell ** Mobility confirmed
>>> that
>>> *112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now it's your turn to
>>> let your friends know about *112. You may want to Send this to every
>>> woman
>>> (and man) you know; it may save a life.
>>>
>>>
>>> This applies to ALL 50 states
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Urban legend.
>>
>> http://www.snopes.com/science/mobile.asp
>
> What part of it is an "urban legend"? That *112 gets emergency services?
> In most of the world it does, including in the US if you're using a GSM
> phone. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number>
>
> That rapists have pretended to be cops? Google "fake cop rape" and you'll
> find a remarkably large number of news stories.
>
> That criminals have used dome lights and the like to make people pull over
> to be victimized?
> <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20000661-504083.html>
>
> That if you've got a cop behind you with his lights flashing and you think
> that something's not kosher you should drive to a police station or
> populated area or wait for another cop to show up?
> <http://www.bbpd.org/traffic-vehicle-questions.htm#notpolicecar>.
>
> The *112 part is the only one that isn't quite right and that's because
> 112 is the EU emergency number, not the primary US emergency number.
>

It's a hoax. We do not have direct access to state troopers in all 50
states at all let alone with the same number. We have 911 which everyone
can access even if their cell phone has no subscription service. My car
phone is not even supported by any carrier in the US (pre-9-11 cell phone)
yet I can dial 911 on it.

So the above post is a well known hoax.

Paul

jmcquown wrote:

> Yep, this urban legend has been floating around out there for years.
> Along with the one about the $250 chocolate chip cookie recipe and
> waking up in a bathtub full of ice and missing a kidney Most
> countries have an emergency number to dial. (The one I know is 911, and
> in the U.S. you can still dial '0' for Operator and get connected to
> emergency services.)
>
> But there's a valid point hidden in the OP's post. Don't just pull over
> simply because a car flashes a light at you (red, blue or whatever) if
> you are in a remote area. I'm not saying lead the [possible] police in
> a merry high-speed chase - simply drive to the nearest gas station or
> residential area where you won't be alone on a dark stretch of highway.
> Most myths and legends, urban or not, seem to be based on a small kernel
> of truth.


There are thousands of traffic stops made every day. many of them by
unmarked cars. Then there is this one case of urban legend.

As someone who used to drive a cruiser and had authority use the red
lights to stop vehicles, I was always careful about when and where I
used them. I did it in locations where I thought that it was safe to do
so, both for me and for the other driver. There were occasions where
there was some risk, in which case I would get the driver to go to a
safer location. When you see those lights youa re supposed to pull over
and stop right away.

On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:35:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>But there's a valid point hidden in the OP's post. Don't just pull over
>simply because a car flashes a light at you (red, blue or whatever) if you
>are in a remote area. I'm not saying lead the [possible] police in a merry
>high-speed chase - simply drive to the nearest gas station or residential
>area where you won't be alone on a dark stretch of highway. Most myths and
>legends, urban or not, seem to be based on a small kernel of truth.

Years ago, a neighbor got pistol whipped and robbed by someone who
flashed a red light at his car and he thought it was the cops. It was
on a rural F&M road in Texas and he nearly died before someone found
him. Taught me a lifelong lesson.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as warm as the wine,
if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

In article 0>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> > Speaking to a service representative at ** Bell ** Mobility
> > confirmed that *112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So,
> > now it's your turn to let your friends know about *112. You may
> > want to Send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
> > life.
> >
> >
> > This applies to ALL 50 states
> >
>
> I never knew this. Thanks!

Just Snoped it:

<http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/fakecop.asp>

Just call 911. It will connect you to the closest 911 operator that can
then forward the call as needed to the most local dispatch.

Honestly, I don't know who starts false internet rumors that can really
hurt people... or why. :-(
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> When you see those lights youa re supposed to pull over
> and stop right away.

No longer true according to my last stop (which was some time ago). I
was chided by the officer for doing exactly that, and he told me I
should have kept going to the gas station on the corner on the next
block.

Now it's "Pull over to the nearest safe place", not "right away".

He let me go with a warning as I was not going THAT fast, and I
apologized to him for not paying attention which was true...
--
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*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-907F47.20595302072010
@news-wc.giganews.com:

> In article 0>,
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> > Speaking to a service representative at ** Bell ** Mobility
>> > confirmed that *112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So,
>> > now it's your turn to let your friends know about *112. You may
>> > want to Send this to every woman (and man) you know; it may save a
>> > life.
>> >
>> >
>> > This applies to ALL 50 states
>> >
>>
>> I never knew this. Thanks!
>
> Just Snoped it:
>
> <http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/fakecop.asp>
>
> Just call 911. It will connect you to the closest 911 operator that can
> then forward the call as needed to the most local dispatch.
>
> Honestly, I don't know who starts false internet rumors that can really
> hurt people... or why. :-(


I heard a long time ago that if you're unsure of who/what is
hailing/flashing you, just keep driving and call 911/000. The operator
will tell you if there is a cop car behind you, or not. And in the US it's
pretty much a given that if you don't stop because you're unsure of the
car behind you, just keep going. Once you see about 20 cars following you,
all with flashing lights and sirens going, you can be *sure* that it's the
cops :-)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it is safer
to harrass rich women than motorcycle gangs."

On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:59:53 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>Just call 911. It will connect you to the closest 911 operator that can
>then forward the call as needed to the most local dispatch.

Not necessarily. Bill and I were traveling to Los Angeles from Orange
County on the 405 one day when, for no reason that we could see, a
truck suddenly went out of control and spun across about 5 lanes of
traffic, miraculously not hitting anyone, but smashed into a retaining
wall. This was near Long Beach. I dialed 911 and wound up with an
emergency dispatcher in *Cerritos* which isn't anywhere *near* Long
Beach. The dispatcher said she'd contact the LB emergency responders.
>
>Honestly, I don't know who starts false internet rumors that can really
>hurt people... or why. :-(

Schadenfreude. Don't understand it, but know it's so.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as warm as the wine,
if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

In article > ,
PL > wrote:

> > Just Snoped it:
> >
> > <http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/fakecop.asp>
> >
> > Just call 911. It will connect you to the closest 911 operator that can
> > then forward the call as needed to the most local dispatch.
> >
> > Honestly, I don't know who starts false internet rumors that can really
> > hurt people... or why. :-(
>
>
> I heard a long time ago that if you're unsure of who/what is
> hailing/flashing you, just keep driving and call 911/000. The operator
> will tell you if there is a cop car behind you, or not. And in the US it's
> pretty much a given that if you don't stop because you're unsure of the
> car behind you, just keep going. Once you see about 20 cars following you,
> all with flashing lights and sirens going, you can be *sure* that it's the
> cops :-)
>
> --
> Peter Lucas

<lol> I think I'd stop after 2 sets at the least!

Cheers!
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

PL > wrote:

> I heard a long time ago that if you're unsure of who/what is
> hailing/flashing you, just keep driving and call 911/000. The operator
> will tell you if there is a cop car behind you, or not.

Then they can also charge you with talking on your phone while
driving.


S.

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> PL > wrote:
>
> > I heard a long time ago that if you're unsure of who/what is
> > hailing/flashing you, just keep driving and call 911/000. The operator
> > will tell you if there is a cop car behind you, or not.
>
> Then they can also charge you with talking on your phone while
> driving.

I believe that in California, you may call law enforcement on your cell
phone while driving even if you do not have a hands free device.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:35:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>But there's a valid point hidden in the OP's post. Don't just pull over
>>simply because a car flashes a light at you (red, blue or whatever) if you
>>are in a remote area. I'm not saying lead the [possible] police in a
>>merry
>>high-speed chase - simply drive to the nearest gas station or residential
>>area where you won't be alone on a dark stretch of highway. Most myths
>>and
>>legends, urban or not, seem to be based on a small kernel of truth.
>
> Years ago, a neighbor got pistol whipped and robbed by someone who
> flashed a red light at his car and he thought it was the cops. It was
> on a rural F&M road in Texas and he nearly died before someone found
> him. Taught me a lifelong lesson.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --

My point exactly. We (as a society) are taught to kow-tow to symbols of
authority. Such as a red flashing light.

Jill

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> "Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:35:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>But there's a valid point hidden in the OP's post. Don't just pull over
> >>simply because a car flashes a light at you (red, blue or whatever) if you
> >>are in a remote area. I'm not saying lead the [possible] police in a
> >>merry
> >>high-speed chase - simply drive to the nearest gas station or residential
> >>area where you won't be alone on a dark stretch of highway. Most myths
> >>and
> >>legends, urban or not, seem to be based on a small kernel of truth.
> >
> > Years ago, a neighbor got pistol whipped and robbed by someone who
> > flashed a red light at his car and he thought it was the cops. It was
> > on a rural F&M road in Texas and he nearly died before someone found
> > him. Taught me a lifelong lesson.
> >
> > Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> >
> > --
>
> My point exactly. We (as a society) are taught to kow-tow to symbols of
> authority. Such as a red flashing light.
>
> Jill

Damn Jill, took me a second, but that was funny as hell. ;-D
The authoritative red light is not always flashing....
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*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

On 7/2/2010 4:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> "Giusi" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> " Joe" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>>> Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area
>>> before > pulling over and remember call *112.
>>>
>>> It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and >Lauren was driving to
>>> visit a > friend.
>>
>> I have been reading some form of that for about 15 years now, only the
>> name and the time of day change.
>>
>
> Yep, this urban legend has been floating around out there for years.
> Along with the one about the $250 chocolate chip cookie recipe and
> waking up in a bathtub full of ice and missing a kidney Most
> countries have an emergency number to dial. (The one I know is 911, and
> in the U.S. you can still dial '0' for Operator and get connected to
> emergency services.)
>
> But there's a valid point hidden in the OP's post. Don't just pull over
> simply because a car flashes a light at you (red, blue or whatever) if
> you are in a remote area. I'm not saying lead the [possible] police in a
> merry high-speed chase - simply drive to the nearest gas station or
> residential area where you won't be alone on a dark stretch of highway.
> Most myths and legends, urban or not, seem to be based on a small kernel
> of truth.

My wife takes care of psych patients and feels that finding that small
kernel of truth to be an important part of her job. No matter how nutty
or unlikely it may be, that small thing matters a great deal.


>
> Jill

Sycophant wrote:

>> My point exactly. We (as a society) are taught to kow-tow to symbols of
>> authority. Such as a red flashing light.
>
> Damn Jill, took me a second, but that was funny as hell. ;-D
> The authoritative red light is not always flashing....

So you consider red-light districts to be seats of authority? Is that a
Texas thing?

Bob

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Sycophant wrote:
>
>>> My point exactly. We (as a society) are taught to kow-tow to symbols of
>>> authority. Such as a red flashing light.
>> Damn Jill, took me a second, but that was funny as hell. ;-D
>> The authoritative red light is not always flashing....
>
> So you consider red-light districts to be seats of authority? Is that a
> Texas thing?
>
Only those parts where the staff likes to be addressed as 'Mistress'

-j

jmcquown wrote:

> My point exactly. We (as a society) are taught to kow-tow to symbols of
> authority. Such as a red flashing light.
>
> Jill

I thought they all were blue now?

Steve Pope wrote:
> PL > wrote:
>
>> I heard a long time ago that if you're unsure of who/what is
>> hailing/flashing you, just keep driving and call 911/000. The
>> operator will tell you if there is a cop car behind you, or not.
>
> Then they can also charge you with talking on your phone while
> driving.

That would be pretty extreme, and I doubt it would hold up
when it was proven you were calling 911.

nancy

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> My point exactly. We (as a society) are taught to kow-tow to symbols of
>> authority. Such as a red flashing light.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I thought they all were blue now?



I guess it depends upon where you live. They still have red lights on cop
cars where I live. And sometimes they alternate red/blue on the light bar
across the hood of the car.

Jill

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> PL > wrote:
>
>> I heard a long time ago that if you're unsure of who/what is
>> hailing/flashing you, just keep driving and call 911/000. The operator
>> will tell you if there is a cop car behind you, or not.
>
> Then they can also charge you with talking on your phone while
> driving.
>
>
> S.


One would hope so! It's too distracting to talk on a phone, even
hands-free, while driving. Pay attention to the road!

Jill

"Nancy Young" > wrote in news:hJGXn.31078$cJ6.7435
@hurricane:

> Steve Pope wrote:
>> PL > wrote:
>>
>>> I heard a long time ago that if you're unsure of who/what is
>>> hailing/flashing you, just keep driving and call 911/000. The
>>> operator will tell you if there is a cop car behind you, or not.
>>
>> Then they can also charge you with talking on your phone while
>> driving.
>
> That would be pretty extreme, and I doubt it would hold up
> when it was proven you were calling 911.
>


I've actually seen quite a few instances of this (calling 911 while driving
with cops behind) on "Cops". Seems the only people that call like that are
the law-abiding ones, who are genuinely afraid they're going to get car-
jacked/mugged whatever.

In almost all cases, the cops applauded the people for calling 911. (Mainly
because the operator told them it was safe to pull over!!)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it is safer to
harrass rich women than motorcycle gangs."

On 7/2/2010 11:06 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:59:53 -0500, >
> wrote:
>
>> Just call 911. It will connect you to the closest 911 operator that can
>> then forward the call as needed to the most local dispatch.
>
> Not necessarily. Bill and I were traveling to Los Angeles from Orange
> County on the 405 one day when, for no reason that we could see, a
> truck suddenly went out of control and spun across about 5 lanes of
> traffic, miraculously not hitting anyone, but smashed into a retaining
> wall. This was near Long Beach. I dialed 911 and wound up with an
> emergency dispatcher in *Cerritos* which isn't anywhere *near* Long
> Beach. The dispatcher said she'd contact the LB emergency responders.

Yes, many states (mine included) treated the mandatory e911 tax on
cellphones as a windfall and used it for other stuff so many areas have
systems that aren't ready for prime time.

>>
>> Honestly, I don't know who starts false internet rumors that can really
>> hurt people... or why. :-(
>
> Schadenfreude. Don't understand it, but know it's so.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>

On 7/3/2010 9:07 AM, Goomba wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> My point exactly. We (as a society) are taught to kow-tow to symbols
>> of authority. Such as a red flashing light.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I thought they all were blue now?

PA police use red and blue. And the best part was that the state ordered
new cars for the state police a few years back and the light bars
included bright flashing white lights which are ridiculous for obvious
reasons and there was even a prohibition in the motor vehicle code so
they had to have all of the light bars on the new cars replaced after
someone pointed out they were prohibited.

PL wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> That would be pretty extreme, and I doubt it would hold up
>> when it was proven you were calling 911.

> I've actually seen quite a few instances of this (calling 911 while
> driving with cops behind) on "Cops". Seems the only people that call
> like that are the law-abiding ones, who are genuinely afraid they're
> going to get car- jacked/mugged whatever.
>
> In almost all cases, the cops applauded the people for calling 911.
> (Mainly because the operator told them it was safe to pull over!!)

They know there are imposters out there, with some disastrous
results. Just curious, do you get the same Cops where you are?
or is there an Australian version.

nancy

jmcquown wrote:

> I guess it depends upon where you live. They still have red lights on
> cop cars where I live. And sometimes they alternate red/blue on the
> light bar across the hood of the car.


They just started using red and blue here in the last year or so. before
that, blue lights were on snow plows only.

George wrote:

> PA police use red and blue. And the best part was that the state ordered
> new cars for the state police a few years back and the light bars
> included bright flashing white lights which are ridiculous for obvious
> reasons and there was even a prohibition in the motor vehicle code so
> they had to have all of the light bars on the new cars replaced after
> someone pointed out they were prohibited.


For a while the local police here had flashing red and white on their
roof light bars. I thought they were dangerous. Having come across a
police car doing something at the side of a dark road I was blinded.
Police cars here sometimes have their headlights flashing alternately.
It is illegal to have those on anything other than an emergency vehicle.
It should be noted that some of these lighting configurations are
illegal for other than emergency vehicles because they are used by
police, fire, ambulance etc for warning purposes and they don't want
other motorists to be confused by them.

In article >, jack > wrote:

> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> > Sycophant wrote:
> >
> >>> My point exactly. We (as a society) are taught to kow-tow to symbols of
> >>> authority. Such as a red flashing light.
> >> Damn Jill, took me a second, but that was funny as hell. ;-D
> >> The authoritative red light is not always flashing....
> >
> > So you consider red-light districts to be seats of authority? Is that a
> > Texas thing?
> >
> Only those parts where the staff likes to be addressed as 'Mistress'
>
> -j

Bob has no sense of pun-ism. <g>
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In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> "Goomba" > wrote in message
> ...
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> My point exactly. We (as a society) are taught to kow-tow to symbols of
> >> authority. Such as a red flashing light.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > I thought they all were blue now?
>
>
>
> I guess it depends upon where you live. They still have red lights on cop
> cars where I live. And sometimes they alternate red/blue on the light bar
> across the hood of the car.
>
> Jill

Ours use red and blue.
And a yellow flash bar across the back.
--
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*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
George > wrote:

> On 7/2/2010 11:06 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:59:53 -0500, >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Just call 911. It will connect you to the closest 911 operator that can
> >> then forward the call as needed to the most local dispatch.
> >
> > Not necessarily. Bill and I were traveling to Los Angeles from Orange
> > County on the 405 one day when, for no reason that we could see, a
> > truck suddenly went out of control and spun across about 5 lanes of
> > traffic, miraculously not hitting anyone, but smashed into a retaining
> > wall. This was near Long Beach. I dialed 911 and wound up with an
> > emergency dispatcher in *Cerritos* which isn't anywhere *near* Long
> > Beach. The dispatcher said she'd contact the LB emergency responders.
>
> Yes, many states (mine included) treated the mandatory e911 tax on
> cellphones as a windfall and used it for other stuff so many areas have
> systems that aren't ready for prime time.
>

The closest 911 dispatch might indeed be no where near where you are. :-)
Our local one serves the entire county which goes clear out past Kyle
and Buda. They serve the Sheriff, City Police (for two different
cities) and the fire dept.

They then contact the nearest emergency responders to your location.

It's why 911 dispatchers are so busy!
Local starting wages for the ones here are only $14.00 per hour too. :-(
--
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*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In article >,
George > wrote:

> On 7/2/2010 11:06 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:59:53 -0500, >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Just call 911. It will connect you to the closest 911 operator that can
> >> then forward the call as needed to the most local dispatch.
> >
> > Not necessarily. Bill and I were traveling to Los Angeles from Orange
> > County on the 405 one day when, for no reason that we could see, a
> > truck suddenly went out of control and spun across about 5 lanes of
> > traffic, miraculously not hitting anyone, but smashed into a retaining
> > wall. This was near Long Beach. I dialed 911 and wound up with an
> > emergency dispatcher in *Cerritos* which isn't anywhere *near* Long
> > Beach. The dispatcher said she'd contact the LB emergency responders.
>
> Yes, many states (mine included) treated the mandatory e911 tax on
> cellphones as a windfall and used it for other stuff so many areas have
> systems that aren't ready for prime time.

Yeah. Cell phones seem to have their own 911 system, so "closest" may
not be very close. Also, especially when driving, you may not be
connected to a close tower.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:03:31 +0200, Giusi wrote:

> " Joe" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>> Unmarked cars with red light on cars, drive to a populated area before >
>> pulling over and remember call *112.
>>
>> It was about 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon, and >Lauren was driving to visit
>> a > friend.
>
> I have been reading some form of that for about 15 years now, only the name
> and the time of day change.

reeks of urban legend, doesn't it?

your pal,
blake

"Nancy Young" > wrote in news:AKIXn.119001$_F1.2697
@hurricane:

> PL wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> That would be pretty extreme, and I doubt it would hold up
>>> when it was proven you were calling 911.
>
>> I've actually seen quite a few instances of this (calling 911 while
>> driving with cops behind) on "Cops". Seems the only people that call
>> like that are the law-abiding ones, who are genuinely afraid they're
>> going to get car- jacked/mugged whatever.
>>
>> In almost all cases, the cops applauded the people for calling 911.
>> (Mainly because the operator told them it was safe to pull over!!)
>
> They know there are imposters out there, with some disastrous
> results. Just curious, do you get the same Cops where you are?
> or is there an Australian version.
>
> nancy
>


We have various Australian versions, but not the same thing.

The "Cops" we get is definitely American....... "Bad Boys, bad boys,
whatcha gonna do when they come for you" :-)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-EBC6CE.11023803072010
@news-wc.giganews.com:

> In article >,
> George > wrote:
>
>> On 7/2/2010 11:06 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:59:53 -0500, >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just call 911. It will connect you to the closest 911 operator that
can
>> >> then forward the call as needed to the most local dispatch.
>> >
>> > Not necessarily. Bill and I were traveling to Los Angeles from Orange
>> > County on the 405 one day when, for no reason that we could see, a
>> > truck suddenly went out of control and spun across about 5 lanes of
>> > traffic, miraculously not hitting anyone, but smashed into a
retaining
>> > wall. This was near Long Beach. I dialed 911 and wound up with an
>> > emergency dispatcher in *Cerritos* which isn't anywhere *near* Long
>> > Beach. The dispatcher said she'd contact the LB emergency responders.
>>
>> Yes, many states (mine included) treated the mandatory e911 tax on
>> cellphones as a windfall and used it for other stuff so many areas have
>> systems that aren't ready for prime time.
>>
>
> The closest 911 dispatch might indeed be no where near where you are.
:-)
> Our local one serves the entire county which goes clear out past Kyle
> and Buda. They serve the Sheriff, City Police (for two different
> cities) and the fire dept.
>


Over here, we have one number, which cuts across all States and
Territories. And our cops, Fire Dept, Ambos, are all statewide.... ie, Qld
Fire and Rescue Service, Queensland Police, Queensland Ambulance Service.

So each state has it's own..... none of this 35,000 different Police
services in one State!!


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-2AAAF0.09214403072010@c-61-
68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:

> In article >,
> George > wrote:
>
>> On 7/2/2010 11:06 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:59:53 -0500, >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just call 911. It will connect you to the closest 911 operator that
can
>> >> then forward the call as needed to the most local dispatch.
>> >
>> > Not necessarily. Bill and I were traveling to Los Angeles from Orange
>> > County on the 405 one day when, for no reason that we could see, a
>> > truck suddenly went out of control and spun across about 5 lanes of
>> > traffic, miraculously not hitting anyone, but smashed into a
retaining
>> > wall. This was near Long Beach. I dialed 911 and wound up with an
>> > emergency dispatcher in *Cerritos* which isn't anywhere *near* Long
>> > Beach. The dispatcher said she'd contact the LB emergency responders.
>>
>> Yes, many states (mine included) treated the mandatory e911 tax on
>> cellphones as a windfall and used it for other stuff so many areas have
>> systems that aren't ready for prime time.
>
> Yeah. Cell phones seem to have their own 911 system, so "closest" may
> not be very close. Also, especially when driving, you may not be
> connected to a close tower.
>


I've dialled 000 here in Brisbane before, and got an operator in Western
Australia.

It just means you waste vital seconds having to explain where the bloody
hell you are.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?