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A friend sent me this.... very interesting.
Pictures of what different people eat around the world. http://www.dump.com/2010/07/03/food-...countries-pic/ George L |
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On 2010-07-03, George Leppla > wrote:
> A friend sent me this.... very interesting. > > Pictures of what different people eat around the world. > > http://www.dump.com/2010/07/03/food-...countries-pic/ Lordy! ...what a shocking disparity of both foodstuff types and amounts. That a family in Chad can even survive on that pittance of food is astonishing. No Atkins, there! I guess it's no surprise that food in US, UK, Japan, and China, have about the same percent of pre-processed foods. Italy seemed only country of "Western" nations to prefer whole real foods. A French example would have been interesting. nb |
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On Jul 3, 7:30*am, George Leppla > wrote:
> A friend sent me this.... very interesting. > > Pictures of what different people eat around the world. > > http://www.dump.com/2010/07/03/food-...lies-in-differ... > > George L You can really eat on the cheap in Bhutan. |
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George Leppla wrote:
> A friend sent me this.... very interesting. > > Pictures of what different people eat around the world. > > http://www.dump.com/2010/07/03/food-...countries-pic/ > > > George L Sadly, it didn't look like a lot of fresh or non-processed food was going down in that first US family. Ugh. The Mexican family had an abundance of fresh produce but wayyyyyyy too much Coca-Cola back there. The kids are chunky too. I wonder if that is the reason? The German family had a nice swing of items, with a nice large assortment of produce, and I note the purchased water and other beverages. That was always important when we lived there. |
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On 2010-07-03, Goomba > wrote:
> abundance of fresh produce but wayyyyyyy too much Coca-Cola back there. > The kids are chunky too. I wonder if that is the reason? It's starting to look like there's a definite link between overweight ppl and HFCS-loaded sodas. In a recent food exposé I watched, a NY cabbie claimed he lost 30lbs by merely ceasing the consumption of Coke, which he admitted he been virtually addicted to. While I haven't really lost any weight, I've found it surprisingly easy to not GAIN any weight since I cut sodas from my diet. I'm starting to look for HFCS-containing foods and eliminate those, too. nb |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote > > It's starting to look like there's a definite link between overweight > ppl and HFCS-loaded sodas. In a recent food exposé I watched, a NY > cabbie claimed he lost 30lbs by merely ceasing the consumption of > Coke, which he admitted he been virtually addicted to. HFCS may or may not be the culprit. Drink enough sugar and you are ingesting lots of calories. Plenty of Coke addicts drink a 2 liter bottle or more a day. That is about 800 calories a day or 292,000 per year. Want tries with that? |
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![]() "George Leppla" > wrote in message ... > A friend sent me this.... very interesting. > > Pictures of what different people eat around the world. > > http://www.dump.com/2010/07/03/food-...countries-pic/ > > George L Interesting, but I don't think it is truly representative. Just look at the food in some of those photos. Can a family of four really consume that much in a week? The German family seems overloaded with beverages and juices from what I can tell of the containers. The lower end of the scale I can believe though. The poor get very little. |
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On 2010-07-03, l, not -l > wrote:
> > Perhaps; but, Mexican Coca-Cola is sugar sweetened, not HFCS. My local > international grocer can't keep enough of it in stock; the Prius-driving, > free-range, organic mom's flock in to snap it up before the Mexican "guest > workers" get off work and get a shot at it. Gee, I guess the millions of gals of HFCS soda Coke produces is just gathering dust in some warehouse and fat Mexican kids are actually a rarity. ![]() nb |
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On 2010-07-03, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> HFCS may or may not be the culprit. Drink enough sugar and you are > ingesting lots of calories. Plenty of Coke addicts drink a 2 liter bottle > or more a day. That is about 800 calories a day or 292,000 per year. > Want tries with that? Valid points, all. Here's an interesting read: http://tinyurl.com/5rcpud nb |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote: > "notbob" > wrote > > > > It's starting to look like there's a definite link between overweight > > ppl and HFCS-loaded sodas. In a recent food exposé I watched, a NY > > cabbie claimed he lost 30lbs by merely ceasing the consumption of > > Coke, which he admitted he been virtually addicted to. > > > HFCS may or may not be the culprit. Drink enough sugar and you are > ingesting lots of calories. Plenty of Coke addicts drink a 2 liter bottle > or more a day. That is about 800 calories a day or 292,000 per year. Assuming that the 292,000 calories is all excess, and gets converted to fat, that is 83 pounds. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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On 2010-07-03, Dan Abel > wrote:
> But other countries don't use HFCS to sweeten their sodas. And for > every container of soda I've seen, the sugar content is the same, > whether HFCS or sucrose. Is the calorie content the same? Aren't yellow cap Cokes sugar, too? nb |
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On Jul 3, 5:30*am, George Leppla > wrote:
> A friend sent me this.... very interesting. > > Pictures of what different people eat around the world. > > http://www.dump.com/2010/07/03/food-...lies-in-differ... > > George L It points out very clearly the overconsumption of the more 'western' societies. And not only overconsumption, the consumption of processed foods. The Asians and Africans had more fresh food, the processed foods they had looked more like dried ingredients, less food overall and looked more normal in weight and in health. Even the family in Chad were not unhealthy looking and they eat the least of all. We really do overeat. And since the dawn of technology, we under exercise, we barely do more than walk from table to couch or car to office and if we do go to the gym it is just a momentary pause in our sedentary lives. I'm as guilty as the next. We don't have to grow our food anymore we just go out and buy what we want. Should tell us something. |
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notbob > wrote: > On 2010-07-03, Dan Abel > wrote: > > > But other countries don't use HFCS to sweeten their sodas. And for > > every container of soda I've seen, the sugar content is the same, > > whether HFCS or sucrose. > > Is the calorie content the same? Yes. And the sweetness level. > Aren't yellow cap Cokes sugar, too? Yes, this is Passover Coke, sweetened with sucrose instead of HFCS. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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George Leppla > wrote: > A friend sent me this.... very interesting. > > Pictures of what different people eat around the world. > > http://www.dump.com/2010/07/03/food-...ifferent-count > ries-pic/ > > George L Wow, that was a fascinating comparison. That last picture saddened me tho'. No need for anyone living close to starvation like that with all the waste that goes on. :-( I noted that the one picture with the most obese family members had several 2 liter bottles of coca-cola lined up along the back of the shelves. I tell ya', sugared soft drinks are probably one of the number one "foods" that contribute to obesity! That's just a personal opinion tho'. It's not uncommon for many people to drink nothing but that, and they'll drink 2 or more of those 2 liter bottles per day. -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> *Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine |
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notbob > wrote: > On 2010-07-03, Goomba > wrote: > > > abundance of fresh produce but wayyyyyyy too much Coca-Cola back there. > > The kids are chunky too. I wonder if that is the reason? > > It's starting to look like there's a definite link between overweight > ppl and HFCS-loaded sodas. In a recent food exposé I watched, a NY > cabbie claimed he lost 30lbs by merely ceasing the consumption of > Coke, which he admitted he been virtually addicted to. While I > haven't really lost any weight, I've found it surprisingly easy to not > GAIN any weight since I cut sodas from my diet. I'm starting to look > for HFCS-containing foods and eliminate those, too. > > nb Glad I was not the only one that noticed that. <g> -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> *Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine |
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notbob > wrote: > On 2010-07-03, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > > > HFCS may or may not be the culprit. Drink enough sugar and you are > > ingesting lots of calories. Plenty of Coke addicts drink a 2 liter bottle > > or more a day. That is about 800 calories a day or 292,000 per year. > > Want tries with that? > > Valid points, all. > > Here's an interesting read: > > http://tinyurl.com/5rcpud > > nb I'd read way back that fructose was worse for insulin resistance than sugar and even discussed it with my doc'. She agreed. It's why I tend to avoid eating much fresh fruit except berries, tomatoes and avocados, and I limit even those. And yes, I do realize that the natural fructose in fruit is not the same as HFCS. <g> -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine |
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>, Dan Abel > wrote: > In article >, > notbob > wrote: > > > On 2010-07-03, Goomba > wrote: > > > > > abundance of fresh produce but wayyyyyyy too much Coca-Cola back there. > > > The kids are chunky too. I wonder if that is the reason? > > > > It's starting to look like there's a definite link between overweight > > ppl and HFCS-loaded sodas. In a recent food exposé I watched, a NY > > cabbie claimed he lost 30lbs by merely ceasing the consumption of > > Coke, which he admitted he been virtually addicted to. While I > > haven't really lost any weight, I've found it surprisingly easy to not > > GAIN any weight since I cut sodas from my diet. I'm starting to look > > for HFCS-containing foods and eliminate those, too. > > But other countries don't use HFCS to sweeten their sodas. And for > every container of soda I've seen, the sugar content is the same, > whether HFCS or sucrose. But the two sugars are not processed the same by your body Dan. -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> *Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine |
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On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 07:30:14 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote: > A friend sent me this.... very interesting. > > Pictures of what different people eat around the world. > > http://www.dump.com/2010/07/03/food-...countries-pic/ > Thanks, George... even that last family, looked fairly wealthy. -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:10:44 GMT, "l, not -l" > wrote:
> Perhaps; but, Mexican Coca-Cola is sugar sweetened, not HFCS. My local > international grocer can't keep enough of it in stock; the Prius-driving, > free-range, organic mom's flock in to snap it up before the Mexican "guest > workers" get off work and get a shot at it. Maybe Coke should buy a clue and sell Coke made with cane sugar instead of HFCS to the general public. -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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Omelet > wrote:
> notbob > wrote: >> It's starting to look like there's a definite link between overweight >> ppl and HFCS-loaded sodas. In a recent food exposé I watched, a NY >> cabbie claimed he lost 30lbs by merely ceasing the consumption of >> Coke, which he admitted he been virtually addicted to. While I >> haven't really lost any weight, I've found it surprisingly easy to not >> GAIN any weight since I cut sodas from my diet. I'm starting to look >> for HFCS-containing foods and eliminate those, too. >Glad I was not the only one that noticed that. <g> OTOH I gained 13 lbs in an 18 month period even though I religiously avoided all HFCS-containing food/drink, and have done so for years. (I have since lost 9 of those back though.) I tend to agree that HFCS calories are somewhat worse for your metabolism than the same calories in other carbs, due to a few particularly bad metabolic pathways they encourage. Steve |
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On Jul 3, 5:30*am, George Leppla > wrote:
> A friend sent me this.... very interesting. > > Pictures of what different people eat around the world. > > http://www.dump.com/2010/07/03/food-...lies-in-differ... > > George L I like the banner ad for McDonald's. |
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On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:37:06 -0500, Omelet >
wrote: > It's why I tend to avoid eating much fresh fruit except berries, > tomatoes and avocados, and I limit even those. And yes, I do realize > that the natural fructose in fruit is not the same as HFCS. <g> When push comes to shove, it's all sugar. As long as I'd known him, hubby drank OJ by the 12oz glass (several glasses a day). To limit sugar intake, his Dr. finally advised him to eat whole fruit and not just drink the juice. She told him at least he'd be getting some fiber with it instead of drinking his sugar straight (words to that effect). He has stopped drinking juice now and doesn't eat the fruit either. He did so many unhealthy things to his body that he didn't think twice about because he didn't gain weight. The chickens came home to roost a couple of years ago and he had to make a huge lifestyle change if he wanted to continue living. -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:31:11 -0500, Omelet >
wrote: > Wow, that was a fascinating comparison. > That last picture saddened me tho'. No need for anyone living close to > starvation like that with all the waste that goes on. :-( They were no where near starvation, AFAIWC. They looked wealthy and healthy to me. -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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Omelet > wrote: > In article >, > notbob > wrote: > > > On 2010-07-03, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > > > > > HFCS may or may not be the culprit. Drink enough sugar and you are > > > ingesting lots of calories. Plenty of Coke addicts drink a 2 liter > > > bottle > > > or more a day. That is about 800 calories a day or 292,000 per year. > > > Want tries with that? > > > > Valid points, all. > > > > Here's an interesting read: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/5rcpud I wasn't terribly impressed by that article. Two of the references were from Wikipedia. I happen to like Wikipedia quite a bit, but I'd hesitate to cite it for some article I wrote. > I'd read way back that fructose was worse for insulin resistance than > sugar and even discussed it with my doc'. She agreed. I've read that also. However, regular sugar (sucrose) is composed of molecules of fructose and glucose stuck together, one and one. If sucrose is broken down quickly in the body, there isn't a lot of difference between it and HFCS. The HFCS used for sweetening soft drinks is HFCS 55, which is 55% fructose and 45% glucose. So does sucrose break down quickly? Opinions are divided, but it doesn't exactly have the reputation of "stickin to the ribs"! > It's why I tend to avoid eating much fresh fruit except berries, > tomatoes and avocados, and I limit even those. Of course, you have your own diet, but for most people, a limited amount of fruit is a healthy part of a balanced diet. > And yes, I do realize > that the natural fructose in fruit is not the same as HFCS. <g> Exactly what is the difference? Take an apple. Roughly half the sugar in a fresh apple is fructose. The other half is glucose and sucrose. Roughly half the sugar in HFCS is fructose, the other half is glucose. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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Omelet > wrote: > In article > >, > Dan Abel > wrote: > > But other countries don't use HFCS to sweeten their sodas. And for > > every container of soda I've seen, the sugar content is the same, > > whether HFCS or sucrose. > > But the two sugars are not processed the same by your body Dan. Some professionals say that. Some professionals say that there is no significant difference. To my knowledge, there are no controlled studies done on humans to test any difference. There was a reputable study done on humans about a year ago. There were some articles in the popular press citing that study. One of the authors of the study wrote an angry critique, saying that first of all, that wasn't the purpose of the study, and second, they hadn't tested HFCS! -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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"l, not -l" > wrote: > On 3-Jul-2010, notbob > wrote: > > Gee, I guess the millions of gals of HFCS soda Coke produces is just > > gathering dust in some warehouse and fat Mexican kids are actually a > > rarity. ![]() > Mexico being a fairly large country, with several Coke bottlers, I suppose > it is a reach to say they only make Coke one way. However, several years > ago all of them switched to sugar only. That doesn't sound right to me. At some point, nobody used HFCS. It hadn't been invented yet. It was used increasingly in the US between 1975 and 1985. Manufacturers in the US switched to HFCS for economic reasons. The cause of the economics was all political: 1. We cut off all trade with Cuba 2. The US encouraged sugar production in the US by imposing high tariffs 3. The US subsidized corn production in the US, making HFCS cheaper here In addition, HFCS is cheaper to use than sugar, since it comes in tank cars and can be pumped. > Perhaps some bottlers have switched > back to HFCS; however, the Coke from Mexico at the international grocer in > my neighborhood lists only sugar as a sweetener. I can't imagine why Mexican companies would have ever switched to HFCS in the first place, since sucrose is half the price there and corn is not subsidized. Unless, of course, they used to buy their sweetened syrup from the US. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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![]() "l, not -l" > wrote > Mexico being a fairly large country, with several Coke bottlers, I suppose > it is a reach to say they only make Coke one way. However, several years > ago all of them switched to sugar only. They make what is profitable. Sugar is cheap in Mexico compared to the US. Thank the lobbyists for ADM. Hershey is moving to Mexico for the cheap sugar. |
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Sqwertz > wrote: > On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:06:05 -0700, Dan Abel wrote: > > > Assuming that the 292,000 calories is all excess, and gets converted to > > fat, that is 83 pounds. > > That's too much assuming for me. Fortunately sugar doesn't > convert to fat. It will help you store what fat you do intake, > wether in excess or not. But you knew that. > > I eat more than 83 excess pounds of food a year. But I don't gain > 83 pounds a year. Wanna do it in pounds? OK. 2 liters is roughly 4 pounds, so call it 1,500 pounds a year. Is that enough? :-) -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > "l, not -l" > wrote > > Mexico being a fairly large country, with several Coke bottlers, I suppose > > it is a reach to say they only make Coke one way. However, several years > > ago all of them switched to sugar only. > > They make what is profitable. Sugar is cheap in Mexico compared to the US. > Thank the lobbyists for ADM. > Hershey is moving to Mexico for the cheap sugar. Yes, in the U.S. we pay 2 to 4 times the world price for sugar due to price supports. That's why we are losing our candy industry to Canada and Mexico. |
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 15:47:29 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote: > > They make what is profitable. Sugar is cheap in Mexico compared to the US. > Thank the lobbyists for ADM. > Hershey is moving to Mexico for the cheap sugar. Mexico can import sugar from Cuba and we can't. Obama needs to lift the embargo against Cuba, the situation has gone beyond stupid. I can't believe we are still catering to the political wishes of Cuban ex-patrons. -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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On 2010-07-03, sf > wrote:
> the embargo against Cuba, the situation has gone beyond stupid. It's escalated straight from stupid to cover-your-face embarrassing! The rest of the planet is hotfooting into capitulate-to-capitalism Cuba, much like they have into fold-for-a-fen China, to get there first and exploit the Hell out of it while the exploiting is good. Our govt, like the total dolts they are, is still whining, "Eek, eek, they're commies!". What are the Chinese? Pogs? nb |
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sf > wrote: > When push comes to shove, it's all sugar. Very true! > As long as I'd known him, > hubby drank OJ by the 12oz glass (several glasses a day). To limit > sugar intake, his Dr. finally advised him to eat whole fruit and not > just drink the juice. She told him at least he'd be getting some > fiber with it instead of drinking his sugar straight (words to that > effect). He has stopped drinking juice now and doesn't eat the fruit > either. He did so many unhealthy things to his body that he didn't > think twice about because he didn't gain weight. The chickens came > home to roost a couple of years ago and he had to make a huge > lifestyle change if he wanted to continue living. Part of that is getting educated about nutrition. :-) And that healthy food tastes good! Whenever my co-workers see me eating a big pile of greens with my lunch, they comment on how healthy it looks. <g> I have developed a true liking for leafy greens and the things you can do with them. Did you know that a nice handful of baby spinach leaves and other greens, including lettuce, dropped into a bowl of tomato soup and wilted well is utterly delicious? And low cal as well as being satisfying. Add shredded protein source of your choice to make it even more so. -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine |
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sf > wrote: > On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:31:11 -0500, Omelet > > wrote: > > > Wow, that was a fascinating comparison. > > That last picture saddened me tho'. No need for anyone living close to > > starvation like that with all the waste that goes on. :-( > > They were no where near starvation, AFAIWC. They looked wealthy and > healthy to me. You and I are not likely talking about the same pic. A small african family living in front of a hut with enough grain and a few veggies to feed a family of 6 for maybe a week. Not a month. They were all thin as rails. -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine |
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Sycophant wrote:
> Whenever my co-workers see me eating a big pile of greens with my lunch, > they comment on how healthy it looks. <g> I have developed a true liking > for leafy greens and the things you can do with them. ....except for the HEALTHIEST leafy greens like kale, turnip greens, mustard greens, and collard greens. Bob |
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 12:15:23 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:10:44 GMT, l, not -l wrote: > >> Perhaps; but, Mexican Coca-Cola is sugar sweetened, not HFCS. My local >> international grocer can't keep enough of it in stock; the Prius-driving, >> free-range, organic mom's flock in to snap it up before the Mexican "guest >> workers" get off work and get a shot at it. > > It's always available at CostCo. > > Also, All Dr. pepper will be made using real sugar for the next 4 > months. > > -sw i'm gonna have to look for that. do you suppose there will be sugar in the fountain-dispensed dr. p? your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 02:49:54 -0500, Omelet >
wrote: > > Part of that is getting educated about nutrition. :-) > And that healthy food tastes good! That wasn't the case with him. He didn't drink soda, he drank orange juice. He didn't eat french fries, he ate bacon. He didn't eat hamburgers, he ate New York steak. He drank and ate in quantities that were too large too often. He didn't do it in the vast quantities that blimp out Middle America to the point where they need to drive oversized trucks and SUVs. Based on his weight and activity level, he thought he was fine... but he wasn't. All that (not from concentrate) OJ was doing a number on his blood sugar levels and the meats were clogging his heart. As a result, of "non-invasive surgery" he has cut out OJ and juice in general and watches the total fat content in all food although he does eat some things, like avocado, for the good fat. We eat so little fat now that my skin is rebelling and I itch from my scalp to my toes (and everywhere in between). -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 02:52:02 -0500, Omelet >
wrote: > You and I are not likely talking about the same pic. > A small african family living in front of a hut with enough grain and a > few veggies to feed a family of 6 for maybe a week. Not a month. > > They were all thin as rails. That's the one. Take a better look, they're healthy. Not thin at all unless you're used to looking at fat people. Their clothing is in very good shape too. They are wealthy for people at the village level. -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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Omelet wrote:
> > Part of that is getting educated about nutrition. :-) > And that healthy food tastes good! That should be "healthful", not "healthy". If the food was healthy, it would still be alive, not cut up and sitting on your plate. |
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 15:47:29 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "l, not -l" > wrote >> Mexico being a fairly large country, with several Coke bottlers, I suppose >> it is a reach to say they only make Coke one way. However, several years >> ago all of them switched to sugar only. > > They make what is profitable. Sugar is cheap in Mexico compared to the US. > Thank the lobbyists for ADM. > Hershey is moving to Mexico for the cheap sugar. regardless of the health effects of HFCS, u.s. sugar policy is goofy. it's corporate welfare in its purest form. your pal, blake |
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