http://www.recfoodcooking.com
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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 7/7/2010 3:05 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com


Another TFH for me.

George L

ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

MCINL

My kitchen would pass any inspection during the times I was cooking in
it. Outside of those times it might not depending one what was occupying
counter space before the cleaning / sanitizing for the next cooking
episode.

On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:06:38 -0500, George Leppla wrote:

> On 7/7/2010 3:05 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
>
> Another TFH for me.
>
> George L

Congrats! Might be an idea to give it a wash before wearing it in the
kitchen tho' ;-)

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 7/7/2010 3:06 PM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 7/7/2010 3:05 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
>
> Another TFH for me.
>
> George L

You must be lucky. Since 1996, I have only won 1 TFH.

Becca

On 7/7/2010 14:05, ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com


Oh hell no! Never ever.

I don't see that point of it. I just don't live by those standards at
home. Throughout my life there have always been kids and dogs and cats
and neighbors and what all flitting in and out of my mother's kitchen,
my grandmothers' and my aunts' kitchens, my in-laws' kitchens, my
sister's kitchen and my kitchen, just as they are free to buzz about ad
lib through the rest of my home. Groceries in through the garage,
homework projects built on the table, pet's food bowls on the counter,
give the spaghetti sauce-covered baby a quick wash-off in the sink...
That's life worth living and I won't pretend otherwise. So there's a
germ here and there--don't we already have enough to make ourselves
crazy over? I'll save the antiseptic routines for work, thanks!

In article <y65Zn.145004$tH4.89773@hurricane>,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

Not likely. <g> Even tho' the cats are trained to stay off the kitchen
counters and stovetop, pets are still not allowed in commercial
kitchens. Too bad too is it'd probably control rodents in some areas!

I actually have to have a clean kitchen before I can cook. Counters and
stove (and appliances) clean, dishes washed etc. The kitchen and
bathroom are kept pretty clean most of the time as I cannot stand a
dirty bathroom either.

The rest of the house is arbitrary and gets cleaned as I have time. ;-)
Still gets swept regularly tho'. I don't have carpets any more thank
the gods!
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 05:40:10 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article <y65Zn.145004$tH4.89773@hurricane>,
> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Not likely. <g> Even tho' the cats are trained to stay off the kitchen
> counters and stovetop, pets are still not allowed in commercial
> kitchens. Too bad too is it'd probably control rodents in some areas!

Heh. Our cats learned pretty fast that going on the kitchen counter tops
is a no-no.... Still keep my spray bottle of water at hand and in plain
sight in case they even think about it <grin>


> I actually have to have a clean kitchen before I can cook. Counters and
> stove (and appliances) clean, dishes washed etc. The kitchen and
> bathroom are kept pretty clean most of the time as I cannot stand a
> dirty bathroom either.

I'm the same; hate dirty bathrooms and I can't start cooking if the
kitchen's a mess.


> The rest of the house is arbitrary and gets cleaned as I have time. ;-)
> Still gets swept regularly tho'. I don't have carpets any more thank
> the gods!

Amen to that. Most of my floors are tiled (including the kitchen and
laundry room) - just sweep 'em and then mop 'em with some household
cleaner and hot water; works for me. Carpets can indeed harbor more
'germs' and grime IMHO, and if you spill something sticky like soft drinks
or the such like on them - ick.

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

I said no. Not for any particular reason, all of my dishes,
pots and pans, utensils, all clean and above reproach.
Looking around, I guess it's because for some reason there
are always crumbs on the counter. I don't know why, I clean
it, next time I go into the kitchen, there they are. Gremlins, I
guess. My refrigerator could use a cleaning but it's not bad,
not like stuff is spilled in there. No chicken dripping on the lettuce
or anything. No bugs or mice that I know of wandering around.

I wouldn't advise anyone think of eating off my floor, either.
I'm not clean to the standards I would expect the health dept
would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
that's where she's fed.

nancy

Nancy wrote on Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:42:13 -0400:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

> I said no. Not for any particular reason, all of my dishes,
> pots and pans, utensils, all clean and above reproach. Looking around,
> I guess it's because for some reason there
> are always crumbs on the counter. I don't know why, I clean
> it, next time I go into the kitchen, there they are. Gremlins, I
> guess. My refrigerator could use a cleaning but
> it's not bad, not like stuff is spilled in there. No chicken dripping
> on the lettuce or anything. No bugs or mice that I
> know of wandering around.

> I wouldn't advise anyone think of eating off my floor, either.
> I'm not clean to the standards I would expect the health dept
> would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
> go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
> that's where she's fed.

I doubt if anyone in their right minds would eat off the floor in a
commercial kitchen either!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

> would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
> go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
> that's where she's fed.
> nancy


How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go onto the
kitchen table or counters when we're out of the house? My cat's have
always been 'water spray-bottle trained' to keep off those particular
horizontal areas, and I've never once, in 30-40 years of
cat-companionship seen any of my cats go up there 'when I'm in the house...'

.... however... on a few occasions I have entered the house at times, I
suppose, that the cat wasn't paying attention, walked into the kitchen
and was as surprised as the cat, who virtually flew off the counter and
disappeared under the couch for the next three hours... finally slinking
out, keeping well in the shadows and close to the walls making her way
to her litter box. Hey... when ya gotta go, ya gotta go...

--
Orpheus99

"A painter paints pictures on canvas. Musicians paint their pictures on
silence." ~Leopold Stokowski

Orpheus99 wrote:
> On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
>> go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
>> that's where she's fed.

> How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go onto the
> kitchen table or counters when we're out of the house?

I can't speak for anyone else's cat. Mine doesn't go on the
counters, she can barely jump up on the couch. She's not a
jumper by any stretch of the imagination. She's never shown
any interest in going on the counters.

Now, if you were to say she gets on the furniture in the livingroom
where I don't want her, and she waits til I'm gone to do it, you'd
be right.

> ... however... on a few occasions I have entered the house at times, I
> suppose, that the cat wasn't paying attention, walked into the kitchen
> and was as surprised as the cat, who virtually flew off the counter
> and disappeared under the couch for the next three hours... finally
> slinking out, keeping well in the shadows and close to the walls
> making her way
> to her litter box. Hey... when ya gotta go, ya gotta go...

And that would be a good time as any. Heh. Not like you're going
to stop her.

nancy

On Jul 8, 7:00*am, Orpheus99 > wrote:
> On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
> > go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
> > that's where she's fed.
> > nancy
>
> How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go onto the
> kitchen table or counters when we're out of the house? My cat's have
> always been 'water spray-bottle trained' to keep off those particular
> horizontal areas, and I've never once, in 30-40 years of
> cat-companionship seen any of my cats go up there 'when I'm in the house....'
>
> ... however... on a few occasions I have entered the house at times, I
> suppose, that the cat wasn't paying attention, walked into the kitchen
> and was as surprised as the cat, who virtually flew off the counter *and
> disappeared under the couch for the next three hours... finally slinking
> out, keeping well in the shadows and close to the walls making her way
> to her litter box. Hey... when ya gotta go, ya gotta go...
>
> --
> Orpheus99
>
> "A painter paints pictures on canvas. *Musicians paint their pictures on
> silence." *~Leopold Stokowski

Exactly. If people think they are keeping their cats off the kitchen
counters, they are delusional.

I use a bleach sanitizing 1 TBS to a gallon of water to wipe my
kitchen down well when I want to feel like I've
sanitized everything. Otherwise it's just a regular wipe down after
doing the dishes and sweeping up.

One of the reasons people are sick all the time is that we are not
allowing kids to eat dirt and boogers and
get dirty. The immune system doesn't have a chance to work properly.

On Jul 8, 9:18*am, ImStillMags > wrote:
> On Jul 8, 7:00*am, Orpheus99 > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > > would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
> > > go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
> > > that's where she's fed.
> > > nancy
>
> > How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go onto the
> > kitchen table or counters when we're out of the house? My cat's have
> > always been 'water spray-bottle trained' to keep off those particular
> > horizontal areas, and I've never once, in 30-40 years of
> > cat-companionship seen any of my cats go up there 'when I'm in the house...'
>
> > ... however... on a few occasions I have entered the house at times, I
> > suppose, that the cat wasn't paying attention, walked into the kitchen
> > and was as surprised as the cat, who virtually flew off the counter *and
> > disappeared under the couch for the next three hours... finally slinking
> > out, keeping well in the shadows and close to the walls making her way
> > to her litter box. Hey... when ya gotta go, ya gotta go...
>
> > --
> > Orpheus99
>
> > "A painter paints pictures on canvas. *Musicians paint their pictures on
> > silence." *~Leopold Stokowski
>
> Exactly. *If people think they are keeping their cats off the kitchen
> counters, they are delusional.

My former cat really didn't go on counters or the dining room table.
This one goes on the table, and it's not worth my time to try to get
her not to. She rarely goes on the counter across from the sink/
stove, and never goes on the sink/stove side counter, and not because
I go to a big effort.
>
> I use a bleach sanitizing 1 TBS to a gallon of water to wipe my
> kitchen down well when I want to feel like I've
> sanitized everything. * Otherwise it's just a regular wipe down after
> doing the dishes and sweeping up.

People who spend money on expensive germ killers are wasting that
money. Bleach works just fine, the 1T/gal is for already cleaned and
rinsed surfaces. While I was off kayaking, my wife bought a can of
Dow Scrubbing Bubbles. That's $4 we'll never get back.
>
> One of the reasons people are sick all the time is that we are not
> allowing kids to eat dirt and boogers and
> get dirty. * The immune system doesn't have a chance to work properly.

I was with you 100% until you got to the booger eating.

--Bryan

On Jul 8, 9:38*am, Food Snob® > wrote:
> On Jul 8, 9:18*am, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 8, 7:00*am, Orpheus99 > wrote:
>
> > > On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > > > would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
> > > > go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
> > > > that's where she's fed.
> > > > nancy
>
> > > How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go onto the
> > > kitchen table or counters when we're out of the house? My cat's have
> > > always been 'water spray-bottle trained' to keep off those particular
> > > horizontal areas, and I've never once, in 30-40 years of
> > > cat-companionship seen any of my cats go up there 'when I'm in the house...'
>
> > > ... however... on a few occasions I have entered the house at times, I
> > > suppose, that the cat wasn't paying attention, walked into the kitchen
> > > and was as surprised as the cat, who virtually flew off the counter *and
> > > disappeared under the couch for the next three hours... finally slinking
> > > out, keeping well in the shadows and close to the walls making her way
> > > to her litter box. Hey... when ya gotta go, ya gotta go...
>
> > > --
> > > Orpheus99
>
> > > "A painter paints pictures on canvas. *Musicians paint their pictures on
> > > silence." *~Leopold Stokowski
>
> > Exactly. *If people think they are keeping their cats off the kitchen
> > counters, they are delusional.
>
> My former cat really didn't go on counters or the dining room table.
> This one goes on the table, and it's not worth my time to try to get
> her not to. *She rarely goes on the counter across from the sink/
> stove, and never goes on the sink/stove side counter, and not because
> I go to a big effort.
>
>
>
> > I use a bleach sanitizing 1 TBS to a gallon of water to wipe my
> > kitchen down well when I want to feel like I've
> > sanitized everything. * Otherwise it's just a regular wipe down after
> > doing the dishes and sweeping up.
>
> People who spend money on expensive germ killers are wasting that
> money. *Bleach works just fine, the 1T/gal is for already cleaned and
> rinsed surfaces. *While I was off kayaking, my wife bought a can of
> Dow Scrubbing Bubbles. *That's $4 we'll never get back.
>
>
>
> > One of the reasons people are sick all the time is that we are not
> > allowing kids to eat dirt and boogers and
> > get dirty. * The immune system doesn't have a chance to work properly..
>
> I was with you 100% until you got to the booger eating.
>
> --Bryan

Booger eating just gives you back germs you had anyway. Unless of
course you are eating someone else's boogers!

And that's just GROSS! ;-)

John Kuthe...

Orpheus99 > wrote in
news
> On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
>> go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
>> that's where she's fed.
>> nancy
>
>
> How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go
> onto the kitchen table or counters when we're out of the
> house? My cat's have always been 'water spray-bottle trained'
> to keep off those particular horizontal areas, and I've never
> once, in 30-40 years of cat-companionship seen any of my cats
> go up there 'when I'm in the house...'
>
> ... however... on a few occasions I have entered the house at
> times, I suppose, that the cat wasn't paying attention, walked
> into the kitchen and was as surprised as the cat, who
> virtually flew off the counter and disappeared under the
> couch for the next three hours... finally slinking out,
> keeping well in the shadows and close to the walls making her
> way to her litter box. Hey... when ya gotta go, ya gotta go...

I've had that happen on many occasions also. Quite funny.
I was told to put jelly roll pans filled with water around the
counter tops or where you don't want a cat to jump up too.
That is a heck of a shocker to the kitties. They think 2 or 3 times
before trying to jump again.

On Jul 8, 9:41*am, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Jul 8, 9:38*am, Food Snob® > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 8, 9:18*am, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 8, 7:00*am, Orpheus99 > wrote:
>
> > > > On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > > > > would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
> > > > > go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
> > > > > that's where she's fed.
> > > > > nancy
>
> > > > How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go onto the
> > > > kitchen table or counters when we're out of the house? My cat's have
> > > > always been 'water spray-bottle trained' to keep off those particular
> > > > horizontal areas, and I've never once, in 30-40 years of
> > > > cat-companionship seen any of my cats go up there 'when I'm in the house...'
>
> > > > ... however... on a few occasions I have entered the house at times, I
> > > > suppose, that the cat wasn't paying attention, walked into the kitchen
> > > > and was as surprised as the cat, who virtually flew off the counter *and
> > > > disappeared under the couch for the next three hours... finally slinking
> > > > out, keeping well in the shadows and close to the walls making her way
> > > > to her litter box. Hey... when ya gotta go, ya gotta go...
>
> > > > --
> > > > Orpheus99
>
> > > > "A painter paints pictures on canvas. *Musicians paint their pictures on
> > > > silence." *~Leopold Stokowski
>
> > > Exactly. *If people think they are keeping their cats off the kitchen
> > > counters, they are delusional.
>
> > My former cat really didn't go on counters or the dining room table.
> > This one goes on the table, and it's not worth my time to try to get
> > her not to. *She rarely goes on the counter across from the sink/
> > stove, and never goes on the sink/stove side counter, and not because
> > I go to a big effort.
>
> > > I use a bleach sanitizing 1 TBS to a gallon of water to wipe my
> > > kitchen down well when I want to feel like I've
> > > sanitized everything. * Otherwise it's just a regular wipe down after
> > > doing the dishes and sweeping up.
>
> > People who spend money on expensive germ killers are wasting that
> > money. *Bleach works just fine, the 1T/gal is for already cleaned and
> > rinsed surfaces. *While I was off kayaking, my wife bought a can of
> > Dow Scrubbing Bubbles. *That's $4 we'll never get back.
>
> > > One of the reasons people are sick all the time is that we are not
> > > allowing kids to eat dirt and boogers and
> > > get dirty. * The immune system doesn't have a chance to work properly.
>
> > I was with you 100% until you got to the booger eating.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Booger eating just gives you back germs you had anyway. Unless of
> course you are eating someone else's boogers!
>
> And that's just GROSS! ;-)

The grossness of boogers is one reason why nasal sex is not very
popular. That, and the diameter of nostrils. Most of us guys prefer
licking the chicken.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:18:32 -0700, ImStillMags wrote:

> Exactly. If people think they are keeping their cats off the kitchen
> counters, they are delusional.

Well, maybe so. But our two cats know better than to do so while I'm busy
in the kitchen.
>
> I use a bleach sanitizing 1 TBS to a gallon of water to wipe my kitchen
> down well when I want to feel like I've sanitized everything.

So you do possess a few 'germophobe' genes <g>

> Otherwise it's just a regular wipe down after doing the dishes and
> sweeping up.

I keep cutting boards (out of the cats reach) for preparing/chopping
meat and vegetables on. I prefer wooden ones, but that's a whole 'nother
discussion...


> One of the reasons people are sick all the time is that we are not
> allowing kids to eat dirt and boogers and get dirty. The immune system
> doesn't have a chance to work properly.

I agree. Both my kids got as dirty as all heck playing out in the back
yard (the kidlette still does) - hey, we have two full bathrooms and a
washing machine so who cares? - but I must admit I've tried to discourage
both of them from eating boogers in public. ;-)

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 09:59:05 -0400, James Silverton wrote:

> I doubt if anyone in their right minds would eat off the floor in a
> commercial kitchen either!

You have a point. Once went into a company canteen kitchen to collect a
tray of eats; the staff were wearing all the usual food safety garb,
hair nets, overalls, aprons etc. but their rubber boots were squelching
around in some stuff I didn't want to know about...

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

ImStillMags wrote:
> On Jul 8, 7:00 am, Orpheus99 > wrote:
>> On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
>>> go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
>>> that's where she's fed.

>> How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go onto
>> the kitchen table or counters when we're out of the house?

> Exactly. If people think they are keeping their cats off the kitchen
> counters, they are delusional.

Well, I don't think I'm keeping her off. I did have a cat who liked to
jump on things, he was a tuxedo. He might have jumped on the counters
although I don't remember seeing him do it. This cat, she doesn't like
heights and she doesn't jump. She crawls up the side of a chair or the
bed to get onto them.

If I have delusions, that my cat doesn't go on the counters isn't one
of them.

nancy

On Jul 8, 9:41*am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Jul 8, 7:00 am, Orpheus99 > wrote:
> >> On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >>> would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
> >>> go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
> >>> that's where she's fed.
> >> How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go onto
> >> the kitchen table or counters when we're out of the house?
> > Exactly. *If people think they are keeping their cats off the kitchen
> > counters, they are delusional.
>
> Well, I don't think I'm keeping her off. *I did have a cat who liked to
> jump on things, he was a tuxedo. *He might have jumped on the counters
> although I don't remember seeing him do it. *This cat, she doesn't like
> heights and she doesn't jump. *She crawls up the side of a chair or the
> bed to get onto them. *
>
> If I have delusions, that my cat doesn't go on the counters isn't one
> of them.
>
> nancy * *

==
All cats should be barred from kitchens as they are dirty and carry
nasty parasites which can infest YOU.
==

On Jul 8, 7:44*am, sandi > wrote:
> Orpheus99 > wrote innews >
>
>
>
>
> > On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >> would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
> >> go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
> >> that's where she's fed.
> >> nancy
>
> > How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go
> > onto the kitchen table or counters when we're out of the
> > house? My cat's have always been 'water spray-bottle trained'
> > to keep off those particular horizontal areas, and I've never
> > once, in 30-40 years of cat-companionship seen any of my cats
> > go up there 'when I'm in the house...'
>
> > ... however... on a few occasions I have entered the house at
> > times, I suppose, that the cat wasn't paying attention, walked
> > into the kitchen and was as surprised as the cat, who
> > virtually flew off the counter *and disappeared under the
> > couch for the next three hours... finally slinking out,
> > keeping well in the shadows and close to the walls making her
> > way to her litter box. Hey... when ya gotta go, ya gotta go...
>
> I've had that happen on many occasions also. *Quite funny.
> I was told to put jelly roll pans filled with water around the
> counter tops or where you don't want a cat to jump up too. *
> That is a heck of a shocker to the kitties. They think 2 or 3 times
> before trying to jump again.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I put some strips of long, wide tape with the sticky side up on top of
the fridge as one of our cats would jump up to survey her kingdom. It
only took one time!

On 7/8/2010 10:19 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> That would probably work for 4 out of 5 of our cats. OTOH, our cat
> Popie absolutely loves water. If you're taking a shower she will do
> her best to open the shower door to join you. Some time ago I had
> drawn a bathtub full of water, but became distracted and had
> forgotten about it. When I went back to the bathroom, there was
> Popie relaxing in "her" bath, bubbles and all.
>

That would be funny to see. :-) Our kitchen is pretty clean, but we do
have 2 cats. They do not jump up on the counters or on the tables, at
least that's what I thought. We were gone for a couple of days and I
found paw prints on the smoothtop range. Louie and Phoebe never did
that, until we got Jackson, the problem cat. How could a cat be so
precious and loving, and have such a bad side. lol The worst was
drinking out of the toilet. Egads, I thought only dogs did that.

Becca

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
5.247:

> On Thu 08 Jul 2010 07:44:30a,

>> I've had that happen on many occasions also. Quite funny.
>> I was told to put jelly roll pans filled with water around
>> the counter tops or where you don't want a cat to jump up
>> too. That is a heck of a shocker to the kitties. They think
>> 2 or 3 times before trying to jump again.

> That would probably work for 4 out of 5 of our cats. OTOH,
> our cat Popie absolutely loves water. If you're taking a
> shower she will do her best to open the shower door to join
> you. Some time ago I had drawn a bathtub full of water, but
> became distracted and had forgotten about it. When I went
> back to the bathroom, there was Popie relaxing in "her" bath,
> bubbles and all.

That is funny! I hope you got a picture!!

merryb > wrote in

s.com:

> On Jul 8, 7:44*am, sandi
>> I was told to put jelly roll pans filled with water around
>> the counter tops or where you don't want a cat to jump up
>> too. * That is a heck of a shocker to the kitties. They think
>> 2 or 3 times before trying to jump again.- Hide quoted text -

> I put some strips of long, wide tape with the sticky side up
> on top of the fridge as one of our cats would jump up to
> survey her kingdom. It only took one time!

Thats a good idea too!

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
news:FkmZn.88361$sD7.80697@hurricane...
> ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Jul 8, 7:00 am, Orpheus99 > wrote:
>>> On 7/8/2010 10:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> would require of a commercial kitchen, even if my cat doesn't
>>>> go on the counters, she still spends enough time in there as
>>>> that's where she's fed.
>
>>> How many cat owners 'really believe' that their cats don't go onto
>>> the kitchen table or counters when we're out of the house?
>
>> Exactly. If people think they are keeping their cats off the kitchen
>> counters, they are delusional.
>
> Well, I don't think I'm keeping her off. I did have a cat who liked to
> jump on things, he was a tuxedo. He might have jumped on the counters
> although I don't remember seeing him do it. This cat, she doesn't like
> heights and she doesn't jump. She crawls up the side of a chair or the
> bed to get onto them.
> If I have delusions, that my cat doesn't go on the counters isn't one
> of them.
>
> nancy


My cat can't jump as high as the kitchen counters, either. She jumps on
chairs and the sofa, sure, and I don't mind that. And she *has* gotten up
on the coffee table... I've seen the paw-prints between dustings But I
got carpeted steps to allow her to get up on the bed, which is pretty high.
(I'm pretty sure when I get to be the equivalent of her age I'll need steps
to get in bed, too!) But I'm sure she doesn't get up on the kitchen
counters.

I have a neighbor who feeds her cats on the kitchen counter. That makes me
cringe. They walk all over her kitchen counters and she doesn't care. (To
give her credit, her kitchen always *looks* spotless.) If my cat was able
to leap that high I'd object to it but I doubt seriously she can. And if
she could and I wasn't around I'm sure she would.

Jill

On Jul 10, 6:03*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:

> My cat can't jump as high as the kitchen counters, either. *She jumps on
> chairs and the sofa, sure, and I don't mind that. *And she *has* gotten up
> on the coffee table... I've seen the paw-prints between dustings *But I
> got carpeted steps to allow her to get up on the bed, which is pretty high.
> (I'm pretty sure when I get to be the equivalent of her age I'll need steps
> to get in bed, too!) *But I'm sure she doesn't get up on the kitchen
> counters.
>

When Maynard was 18 years old (he's been gone several years now), we
thought he could no longer jump much. We actually installed a little
stairway up to the bathroom counter since we had all the cat food
there (away from the dogs). And I had a special stool next to my bed
so that he could get up there easily.

But somehow, all the tops of the shamrock plant (which was on the
kitchen counter) got eaten off. And none of the other cats had ever
shown any interest. We figured he knew it was up there because of all
the times we held him while standing in the kitchen, and he was aimed
to look over our shoulders as we leaned against the counter.

We were amazed, but apparently he got up there. We have a new shamrock
eater, so we have to keep it protected or that one will be all stalks
too.

On 7/11/2010 3:55 AM, wrote:
> On Jul 10, 6:03 am, > wrote:
>
>> My cat can't jump as high as the kitchen counters, either. She jumps on
>> chairs and the sofa, sure, and I don't mind that. And she *has* gotten up
>> on the coffee table... I've seen the paw-prints between dustings But I
>> got carpeted steps to allow her to get up on the bed, which is pretty high.
>> (I'm pretty sure when I get to be the equivalent of her age I'll need steps
>> to get in bed, too!) But I'm sure she doesn't get up on the kitchen
>> counters.
>>
>
> When Maynard was 18 years old (he's been gone several years now), we
> thought he could no longer jump much. We actually installed a little
> stairway up to the bathroom counter since we had all the cat food
> there (away from the dogs). And I had a special stool next to my bed
> so that he could get up there easily.
>
> But somehow, all the tops of the shamrock plant (which was on the
> kitchen counter) got eaten off. And none of the other cats had ever
> shown any interest. We figured he knew it was up there because of all
> the times we held him while standing in the kitchen, and he was aimed
> to look over our shoulders as we leaned against the counter.
>
> We were amazed, but apparently he got up there. We have a new shamrock
> eater, so we have to keep it protected or that one will be all stalks
> too.

Cats are lazy--they won't jump any harder than they need to get where
they want to be. I used to have a cat door in a window six feet above
the ground--I left a ladder for the cats to climb up because I "knew"
that they couldn't jump that high. One day I needed the ladder for
something and forgot to put it back, and the cats didn't seem to be
inconvenienced in the slightest.

"J. Clarke" > wrote:
>
>Cats are lazy--they won't jump any harder than they need to get where
>they want to be.

That's not true... cats are definitely not lazy. Cats all have
different personalities, some don't move an inch more than necessary
to accomplish what they need, other's are so naturally playful that
every move becomes a game. And cats are naturally nocturnal, you
probably don't see much of their activity. And a cat's age plays a
big role in how active they are... kittens and young cats can make you
dizzy with watching their constant antics... I bet you don't move much
anymore either. If your cat seems lazy it's only because you don't
give the cat the proper stimulous to play. Many with dogs don't give
their pets the stimulous to play either, the poor dog just lays there
hoping for anyone to toss a toy. I've had many cats, not one wouldn't
chase furiously after a tossed toy. I've really no idea what you
expect, no cat is going to jump past where they need to be, not unless
the cat has a perception problem that needs veterinary attention. Cats
are very social animals, they live much more active, healthful and
longer lives when socialized with other cats. I always recommend that
anyone wanting a cat to take at least two from the litter, the cats
will be happier and will give far more pleasure. People with just one
cat miss out on a lot of pleasure.

In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> I always recommend that
> anyone wanting a cat to take at least two from the litter, the cats
> will be happier and will give far more pleasure. People with just one
> cat miss out on a lot of pleasure.

I second that.
Cats are not the solitary creatures that many make them out to be.
Mutual grooming is a common kitty activity.
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