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"Steve B" > wrote in message
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>> "Andy" > wrote in message
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>>> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The bagged microwave stuff stinks to high heaven! Make popcorn on the
>>>>> cook top like a civilized person
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of popcorn, are you allowed to have it? I'd guess that the
>>>> hard little shards of the outer shell might be just as dangerous for
>>>> you as seeds are.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>

>> Replying to Bob.... NO, I am not allowed to eat popcorn. I don't eat
>> popcorn. I think that's what landed me in the hospital in the first
>> place. My mother insisted on a bowl of popcorn every night. And she
>> insisted we (John and I) share it with her. So, having gone years
>> without eating popcorn there I was eating a small bowl of popcorn every
>> night for a few weeks. Next thing I knew... yikes! Diverticulitis (near
>> peritonitis) with a drain inserted in my back and a week in the hospital
>> eating broth then soft food. Thanks for the memories! LOL
>>
>> Jill

>
> Sounds like my MIL:
>
> Here have some popcorn.
>
> What do you mean you can't eat corn?
>

(snippage)

Not the same thing at all, Steve. I had no idea I shouldn't eat corn. I'd
eaten popcorn before. And enjoyed wonderful grilled corn on the cob. And
made corn chowder (recipe based on RFC's own Kate Connelly's). My mother
was just trying to share. She felt like she was being a bad hostess if she
didn't offer some to us. And we felt obligated to eat some. She didn't
force it down my throat. I had no idea before I wound up in the hospital it
would, well, land me in the hospital.

Jill

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>>No worries whatsoever! She can't read.
>>

> If I tell her on FB that you are maligning her here, I sure bet she
> will be able to read...


I see; you're gonna read it for her. I ain't worried none. She all
smoke-and-mirrors; mostly smoke. <coff>

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Jill wrote:

> Replying to Bob.... NO, I am not allowed to eat popcorn. I don't eat
> popcorn. I think that's what landed me in the hospital in the first
> place. My mother insisted on a bowl of popcorn every night. And she
> insisted we (John and I) share it with her. So, having gone years without
> eating popcorn there I was eating a small bowl of popcorn every night for
> a few weeks. Next thing I knew... yikes! Diverticulitis (near
> peritonitis) with a drain inserted in my back and a week in the hospital
> eating broth then soft food. Thanks for the memories! LOL


Sorry about bringing back those memories, but there was a reason behind my
inquiry: The _Alinea_ cookbook has a recipe for something it calls
"liquefied" popcorn. Basically, you make stovetop popcorn, simmer it with
butter, sugar, salt, and water, then blend it and strain it. The resulting
liquid has a nice popcorn flavor. I made it as part of my birthday dinner
last year, combining the popcorn liquid with honey which had been infused
with black pepper. (The original recipe combined it with a caramel syrup.) I
had leftover popcorn liquid, which I froze in my ice cream freezer. That was
nice too.

The "Alinea At Home" blog has an entry about the recipe which pretty much
illustrates every step along the way:

<http://alineaathome.typepad.com/alinea_at_home/2008/12/caramel-popcorn-liquefied.html>

Here's what the author had to say: "So, how did it taste? Because both
popcorn and caramel are so fragrant on their own, let alone together, at
first, it was powerful to the point of being borederline overwhelming...
until it settled on my tongue and then, wwwoooooowwwwww... it was good.
Really, really good. Like m-f-ing good. Salt, sweet, butter, creaminess,
popcorn-y, smooth, rich, amazing."

So if you want the taste without the danger, that's one option.
(Popcorn-flavored Jelly Bellies are another.)

Bob



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> > Il 25/07/2010 11:37, Ophelia ha scritto:
> >
> >>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
> >>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.

> >
> >
> >>> Cabbage boiling!!!

> >
> >
> >> You boil cabbage??

> >
> >
> > Mum loves boiled cabbage with italian dressing as a veggie side dish.
> > I don't like it, but sometimes she stir fries it in a skillet with
> > some tomato sauce and pancetta, this way it's edible to me, too

>
>
> I like to steam mine


I dont eat a lot of boiled cabbage, but i like to put a quartered head
in my stock pot.

And i make a boiled meat loaf that uses cabbage as part of the meat mix
and whole leaves to wrap the meat in.

The stirfry is very good with sesame oil and i like to cook the cabbage
with rice noodles.

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On Jul 25, 10:59*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> news >
> > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:27:33 -0700, Mark Thorson >
> > wrote:

>
> >>Chemo the Clown wrote:

>
> >>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
> >>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.

>
> >>Limburger and durian.

>
> > I don't think people cook those.

>
> The OP, who really is a clown, wrote "the smell of some food", not just
> about cooked food. *And I agree, limburger and durian smell awful. *I've
> never tasted limburger. *Just couldn't bring myself to do it. *I did taste
> durian and it was nice but I could barely get past the stench. *It's not
> something I'd seek out.
>
> Jill


Ooo -- ooo-- you've got to try limburger, some thin sliced sweet onion
and tomato on an English. Top brown to melt the cheese. OO - one of
my fave quickie meals. Just be sure you don't leave the paper cheese
wrapper in your garbabe overnight in the house. You'll know it in the
morning.



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On Jul 25, 1:12*am, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.


Ewww -- you just brought back the memory of a neighbor in the next
apt. who cooked mutton or sumthin just about every other night. NIce
to come home to - we shared a common hallway and they were from
Ireland, in the US on a work visa.

Worst general food smell -- that piece of raw chicken you forgot and
find in back of fridge three weeks later. EEEWWWW.
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> Ophelia wrote:
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>> "ViLco" wrote in message
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>> > Il 25/07/2010 11:37, Ophelia ha scritto:
>> >
>> >>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but
>> >>>> rather
>> >>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.
>> >
>> >
>> >>> Cabbage boiling!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >> You boil cabbage??
>> >
>> >
>> > Mum loves boiled cabbage with italian dressing as a veggie side dish.
>> > I don't like it, but sometimes she stir fries it in a skillet with
>> > some tomato sauce and pancetta, this way it's edible to me, too

>>
>>
>> I like to steam mine

>
> I dont eat a lot of boiled cabbage, but i like to put a quartered head in
> my stock pot.
>
> And i make a boiled meat loaf that uses cabbage as part of the meat mix
> and whole leaves to wrap the meat in.
>
> The stirfry is very good with sesame oil and i like to cook the cabbage
> with rice noodles.


I do like to stirfry it too

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On 25 Jul 2010 05:37:10 GMT, sandi wrote:

> Chemo the Clown > wrote in
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> s.com:
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>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but
>> rather the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.

>
> Kidneys being cooked/boiled.


my dad would make kidney stew on a saturday morning, and the smell would
definitely wake me up. (bedroom over the kitchen). he was the only one
who would eat it.

your pal,
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:37:07 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:36:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>>"ViLco" > wrote in message
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>>> Il 25/07/2010 11:37, Ophelia ha scritto:
>>>
>>>>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>>>>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.
>>>
>>>>> Cabbage boiling!!!
>>>
>>>> You boil cabbage??
>>>
>>> Mum loves boiled cabbage with italian dressing as a veggie side dish. I
>>> don't like it, but sometimes she stir fries it in a skillet with some
>>> tomato sauce and pancetta, this way it's edible to me, too

>>
>>I like to steam mine

>
> That's still boiling.


numbskull.

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Sqwertz wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>> "ViLco" wrote:
>>> Chemo the Clown red nosed:
>>>
>>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.
>>>
>>> Cabbage boiling!!!

>>
>> You boil cabbage??

>
>I simmer it if I'm making stuffed cabbage. Just enough to peel
>the leaves apart without tearing.


Freezing works best:
http://easteuropeanfood.about.com/od...ezecabbage.htm


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On 7/25/2010 9:14 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> maxine in ri wrote:
>
>> What they're not good at is following directions. The times given are
>> a guideline, but the instructions usually read: 'Popcorn is done when
>> you can count the individual pops.' It's the 'set it and forget it'
>> folks who burn it all the time.

>
> If they'd just do it at home, no one would care. Instead they
> foul the entire office building. At some point I noticed a NO POPCORN
> sign on one of the microwaves at work. I guess the smell would get into
> other people's food if they used
> the machine. I don't know.
>
> Once I worked in a smaller building and someone microwaved
> some leftover fish. The stench just about cleared the office.
> The person never did that again.
>
> nancy



I've considered taking catfood to work, mixed with a little rice for
plausible deniability, and microwaving it in the break area as a
practical joke. (of course I'm so absent-minded I'd probably burn it...)

;-)

Bob
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>> The worst food ODOR would have to be the microwave popcorn packets that
>> more often than not burned instead of popped, leaving a stink that
>> lingered
>> for days.
>>

> (snippage)
>> Andy

>
>
> They should have banned that stuff in offices! I worked with a few
> people who insisted it was their "lunch" (as if they were doing
> something healthy with all that faux butter crapola). It stunk to high
> heaven even when it wasn't burnt. Ugh.
>
> Jill
>



If they LIKED popcorn it drew people together from all corners of the
building.

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> I don't even have to think about it: Japanese natto.
>
> This food is definitely under "acquired taste" and is even worse than
> starting your day off with grits. A Japanese friend brought me some because
> I was so open-minded on what I was willing to try.



>
> I politely thanked him for providing me my experience, which had him
> guffawing for days,




That's what you get for being so open-minded.


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>>> Il 25/07/2010 07:12, Chemo the Clown ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.
>>>
>>> Cabbage boiling!!!

>>
>> You boil cabbage??

>
> I simmer it if I'm making stuffed cabbage. Just enough to peel
> the leaves apart without tearing.


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"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
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> On 7/25/2010 9:14 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> maxine in ri wrote:
>>
>>> What they're not good at is following directions. The times given are
>>> a guideline, but the instructions usually read: 'Popcorn is done when
>>> you can count the individual pops.' It's the 'set it and forget it'
>>> folks who burn it all the time.

>>
>> If they'd just do it at home, no one would care. Instead they
>> foul the entire office building. At some point I noticed a NO POPCORN
>> sign on one of the microwaves at work. I guess the smell would get into
>> other people's food if they used
>> the machine. I don't know.
>>
>> Once I worked in a smaller building and someone microwaved
>> some leftover fish. The stench just about cleared the office.
>> The person never did that again.
>>
>> nancy

>
>
> I've considered taking catfood to work, mixed with a little rice for
> plausible deniability, and microwaving it in the break area as a practical
> joke. (of course I'm so absent-minded I'd probably burn it...)


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Sqwertz wrote:
>brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>>I simmer it if I'm making stuffed cabbage. Just enough to peel
>>>the leaves apart without tearing.

>>
>> Freezing works best:
>> http://easteuropeanfood.about.com/od...ezecabbage.htm

>
>Why would I want to break all the cells in the cabbage so it gets
>limp and mushy even before I start making the dish? That's *not*
>the way to do it.
>
>I'll stick to my way.


You think boiling cabbage doesn't break the cells and make it limp...
like cooking cabbage rolls doesn't make it limp... your brain is
limp... you're just too embarrassed that you forgot about freezing.
I got semi-dwarf fruit trees with better memory than yours. LOL
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gloria.p wrote:

> The Ranger wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't even have to think about it: Japanese natto.
> >
> > This food is definitely under "acquired taste" and is even worse than
> > starting your day off with grits. A Japanese friend brought me some
> > because I was so open-minded on what I was willing to try.

>
>
>
> >
> > I politely thanked him for providing me my experience, which had him
> > guffawing for days,

>
>
>
>
> That's what you get for being so open-minded.
>
>
> gloria p


I had a similar experiance with something caled "Carob" and touted as
spme sort of Chocolate substitute.

Tasting it the first time was the only time i have ever .... removed
something bad tasting. Subsequent attempts to apppreciate carob were
more expermintal nibbles than the original big bite i first took and
..... expectoreated

As i understand it the common manufacture of many commercialy available
'chocolate' has some sort of animale product in it. And as such can not
be eaten by certain strict vegitarians.

But it seeems to me, given the basic bean i dont see why it cant be made
with vegitable oil, but no milk or butter fats.

Then one could have chcolate rice flour, honey & water bisquits rather
than some oat flavored whole wheat carob cookie claiming to be as good
as chocolate "Wha Guru Chew"

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Chemo the Clown > wrote:

> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.


Smellwise, nothing in the world can possibly be worse than cauliflower
boiling. It's chemical warfare. Tastewise likewise.

Victor
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:12:01 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:

>Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.


The one and only time my mother made homemade sauerkraut. The house
smelled like a brewery for weeks. Not that there's anything *wrong*
with that...

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Chemo the Clown wrote:
> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.


Shrimp paste (and related items) smell pretty darned bad. (The
first time I cooked with shrimp paste, I almost threw the entree
out in the trash!)

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"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
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> Chemo the Clown wrote:
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>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.

>
> Limburger and durian.


Durian's the worst I've smelled. Had some at a Fidonet Cooking
Echo meeting years ago and had to hold my nose when tasting it,
but it tasted OK.

I've read that it's often shipped frozen to control the smell,
especially if shipped on an airplane.

I've never encountered Limburger.

Robert Miles


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>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> The worst food ODOR would have to be the microwave popcorn packets that
>>> more often than not burned instead of popped, leaving a stink that
>>> lingered
>>> for days.
>>>

>> (snippage)
>>> Andy

>>
>>
>> They should have banned that stuff in offices! I worked with a few
>> people who insisted it was their "lunch" (as if they were doing something
>> healthy with all that faux butter crapola). It stunk to high heaven even
>> when it wasn't burnt. Ugh.
>>
>> Jill
>>

>
>
> If they LIKED popcorn it drew people together from all corners of the
> building.
>
> gloria p




A candy dish on the corner of your desk would accomplish the same thing...
without the stench

Jill

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:54:26 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> ..you're just too embarrassed that you forgot about freezing.

>
> No, Sheldon. See, I actually make cabbage rolls quite often. You
> don't. I know what works better, and what doesn't.
>
> And just the fact that you endorse a procedure is reason enough
> *not* to trust that method. Fact is, I have tried it and can
> verify that your method does indeed - Suck.
>
> All this talk, I guess I gotta post pics now. Lets try the
> Iimageshack Gallery at yfrog...
>
> Gallery style:
> http://yfrog.com/jtcabbagerollsleavesjx
>
> Or individual links:
> http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8...ollsleaves.jpg
> http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/926...rimmingste.jpg
> http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/2...llscutleaf.jpg
> http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5...groundpork.jpg
> http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/652...llsrolled3.jpg
> http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/3...rollsinpan.jpg
> http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/672...llsplated3.jpg
>
> That Imageshack uploader is the bomb. So cool. 10x easier than
> tinypic.


They look wonderful! Recipe please? Do you part cook the leaves before
you roll them?
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In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> "gloria.p" > wrote in message
> ...
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >> "Andy" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> The worst food ODOR would have to be the microwave popcorn packets that
> >>> more often than not burned instead of popped, leaving a stink that
> >>> lingered
> >>> for days.
> >>>
> >> (snippage)
> >>> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >> They should have banned that stuff in offices! I worked with a few
> >> people who insisted it was their "lunch" (as if they were doing something
> >> healthy with all that faux butter crapola). It stunk to high heaven even
> >> when it wasn't burnt. Ugh.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>

> >
> >
> > If they LIKED popcorn it drew people together from all corners of the
> > building.
> >
> > gloria p

>
>
>
> A candy dish on the corner of your desk would accomplish the same thing...
> without the stench
>
> Jill


Some office buildings HAVE banned microwave popcorn for that very
reason. One bag of burnt popcorn (and people are SO careless!) can
stink up an entire skyscraper!

It also ruins the microwave for the next few cooks.
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:36:38 -0400, Jean B. wrote:
>
>> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.

>> Shrimp paste (and related items) smell pretty darned bad. (The
>> first time I cooked with shrimp paste, I almost threw the entree
>> out in the trash!)

>
> Yep. shrimp paste along with those that I posted. Mine's wrapped
> in foil in the freezer. It mellows out a lot ofter it's cooked
> and mixed in with other stuff, though. But it's one of those
> "power ingredients" that you just can't do without in some
> cuisines.
>
> -sw


Oh, I love it, but the first time was a real shock!
Unfortunately, I make fewer SE Asian than I'd like to because of
the link between fermented fish products and cancer.

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Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
> In article >, "Jean B." >
> wrote:
>
>> Shrimp paste (and related items) smell pretty darned bad. (The
>> first time I cooked with shrimp paste, I almost threw the entree
>> out in the trash!)

>
> Fish sauce.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee @ Arabian Knits


Same realm, yes.

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:12:01 -0700 (PDT) in rec.food.cooking, Chemo the
Clown > wrote,
>Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.


Fish in the microwave. Cooked the previous day by some office
co-worker not to be named.


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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 26 Jul 2010 04:56:48a, Skwertz told us...
>
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:28:32 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>> There are countless variations on the filling and sauce. I'll let
>>> Steve post his.

>> Mine is the same method of par boiling and trimming. The filling
>> is ground beef, pork, and sausage, onion, thyme, oregano, pepper
>> (depends on my mood, really). Sometimes I'll use ground lamb in
>> there as well.

>
> My filling is usually ground beef, pork, and veal, onion, bouquet,
> pepper, and sweet paprika. Following many Hungarian traditions, I
> sometimes omit the veal and use ground smoked pork chops. There's no
> absolute rule, and mine varies as does yours.
>
> I've never tried sausage (which I'm sure I'd like) or lamb. I really
> like lamb, but never considered it for cabbage rolls.
>
> My sauce is usually tomato sauce, hand-crushed tomatoes, a bit of
> brown sugar, a bit of vinegar, a slosh of Worcestershire sauce, black
> pepper, and more paprika. After cooking I sometimes remove the
> cabbage rolls and stir sour cream into the sauce to pour over the
> rolls. Yours?
>
>>> IME, freezing the whole head of cabbage as Sheldon suggested ruins
>>> the texture of the leaves and makes them quite watery. Highly
>>> unsuitable for making cabbage rolls.

>> Yep. I tried to tell him this, but you know Sheldon refuses to
>> listen and thinks his method is the only and best way to do it.
>>
>> -sw

>

I am thinking I'd rather do a casserole version of stuffed cabbage.

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"Omelet" > wrote

> Some office buildings HAVE banned microwave popcorn for that very
> reason. One bag of burnt popcorn (and people are SO careless!) can
> stink up an entire skyscraper!
>
> It also ruins the microwave for the next few cooks.
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I have never seen that much smoke in my life. It was smoking heavily, and
when I opened the door, POOMPH! flames! My corgi was barking up a storm.
Lucky him. Short legs, and he was next to the floor. From half way up to
all the way up to the ceiling, you could not see a thing. I opened the
doors, and the smoke rolled out, and all the neighbors came to see what was
up. If you don't like someone, put popcorn in their microwave and set it
for two minutes longer than it's supposed to go. But nobody here would do
that. Right?

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David wrote:

> Fish in the microwave. Cooked the previous day by some office
> co-worker not to be named.


Kimchee in the microwave. Cooked by a dickhead who thought it was funny.

Bob





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On 07/25/10 5:37 AM, sometime in the recent past Ophelia posted this:
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>
> "ViLco" > wrote in message
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>> Il 25/07/2010 07:12, Chemo the Clown ha scritto:
>>
>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.

>>
>> Cabbage boiling!!!

>
> You boil cabbage??
>

Cabbage is a must in my 'boiled dinner' along with carrot, turnip, potato &
a bit of corned beef brisket, seasonings & bay leaf. Next day turn it into hash.

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On 07/25/10 7:50 AM, sometime in the recent past ViLco posted this:
> Il 25/07/2010 12:36, Andy ha scritto:
>
>> The worst food ODOR would have to be the microwave popcorn packets that
>> more often than not burned instead of popped, leaving a stink that
>> lingered
>> for days.
>>
>> As a result I'm a big fan of bagged Herr's original popcorn.
>>
>> I'd like to try their cheese popcorn version only I'm afraid of
>> "orange paw
>> disease!"

>
> Shit, the only reason to open a MW oven on this planet is just MW popcorns!
> LOL, I love'em, just butter and salt version

You can put 1/4 of kernels in a brown paper lunch bag, fold over the top and
microwave 2 mins. or until the popping slows down. You'll have some old
maids, but it's quicker than the stove top (which is my preferred method.)
Butter, salt & some brewers yeast sometimes.

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> On Mon 26 Jul 2010 01:49:44a, Ophelia told us...
>
>>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:54:26 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> ..you're just too embarrassed that you forgot about freezing.
>>>
>>> No, Sheldon. See, I actually make cabbage rolls quite often.
>>> You don't. I know what works better, and what doesn't.
>>>
>>> And just the fact that you endorse a procedure is reason enough
>>> *not* to trust that method. Fact is, I have tried it and can
>>> verify that your method does indeed - Suck.
>>>
>>> All this talk, I guess I gotta post pics now. Lets try the
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>>> http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/672...llsplated3.jpg
>>>
>>> That Imageshack uploader is the bomb. So cool. 10x easier than
>>> tinypic.

>>
>> They look wonderful! Recipe please? Do you part cook the leaves
>> before you roll them?

>
> Jumping in here... Steve's cabbage rolls do indeed look wonderful.
> It would appear that his method is like mine. I plunge the whole
> head of cabbage into boiling water, and as each leaf is softened
> enough to remove, cut it away from the core and set it aside. This
> is repeated until all leaves large enough for rolling have been
> removed. You could consider the cabbage partly cooked at this point.
> Before filling and rolling, the heavy base of the vein is removed so
> as not to break the leaf when rolling. I chop the remaining small
> leaves (without the core) and line the bottom of the roaster or
> baking dish they're cooked in.
>
> There are countless variations on the filling and sauce. I'll let
> Steve post his.
>
> IME, freezing the whole head of cabbage as Sheldon suggested ruins
> the texture of the leaves and makes them quite watery. Highly
> unsuitable for making cabbage rolls. I do know some people use this
> method and claim it works well for them. I won't ever try it again.


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> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:28:32 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
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>> There are countless variations on the filling and sauce. I'll let
>> Steve post his.

>
> Mine is the same method of par boiling and trimming. The filling
> is ground beef, pork, and sausage, onion, thyme, oregano, pepper
> (depends on my mood, really). Sometimes I'll use ground lamb in
> there as well.


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"Wilson" > wrote in message
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> On 07/25/10 5:37 AM, sometime in the recent past Ophelia posted this:
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>>
>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
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>>> Il 25/07/2010 07:12, Chemo the Clown ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.
>>>
>>> Cabbage boiling!!!

>>
>> You boil cabbage??
>>

> Cabbage is a must in my 'boiled dinner' along with carrot, turnip, potato
> & a bit of corned beef brisket, seasonings & bay leaf. Next day turn it
> into hash.


Set out the recipe please? For how long do you boil the cabbage?



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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:21:41 -0500, "Robert Miles"
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>"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
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>> Chemo the Clown wrote:
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>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.

>>
>> Limburger and durian.

>
>Durian's the worst I've smelled.


I think gingko fruit smells far worse. Gingko nuts are wonderful but
first you gotta get past the smell. In many municipalities they've
banned the female gingko tree.
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On 07/26/10 11:29 AM, sometime in the recent past Ophelia posted this:
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>
> "Wilson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 07/25/10 5:37 AM, sometime in the recent past Ophelia posted this:
>>>
>>>
>>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Il 25/07/2010 07:12, Chemo the Clown ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Not talking about spoiled but rather
>>>>> the smell of some food or the smell of cooking food.
>>>>
>>>> Cabbage boiling!!!
>>>
>>> You boil cabbage??
>>>

>> Cabbage is a must in my 'boiled dinner' along with carrot, turnip,
>> potato & a bit of corned beef brisket, seasonings & bay leaf. Next day
>> turn it into hash.

>
> Set out the recipe please? For how long do you boil the cabbage?
>
>
>

Okay Ophelia, had to consult with my wife since we don't really use a
written recipe. She says we start with the packaged corned beef brisket (not
the point) and put it in an 8 qt. pot, add the packet of seasoning, 2 or 3
bay leaf & cover with an inch of water. She says we simmer that for about 3
hours and skim the froth off.

Cut carrots into 3-4" chunks & half lengthwise. Cut turnip & potatoes into
about 1.5" chunks. Add these to the pot with 2-4 2" peeled but whole onions.
Cover with water & simmer 45 mins. to an hour. Then top with chunks of
cabbage cut into 1/4's or 1/8's depending on cabbage size and cook covered
about 20 to 30 mins. more until sharp knife slides through easily.

The amount of vegetables don't matter so much, but think of servings. I'd go
with about 4 whole carrots, 1 turnip, 6 apple sized potatoes and about a 5"
cabbage with a 1.5 or 2 lb. brisket.

Wife thinks there's enough salt in the brisket, so doesn't add more, but I
taste the broth and go from there. Also several good twists of black or
white pepper.

Butter for the veggies & cabbage, add a little drizzle of vinegar over them
too and a nice brown mustard for the corned beef. We save the broth for
soups & beans, but usually have a cup with the meal it's just so damn good.
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Il 25/07/2010 22:23, Sqwertz ha scritto:

> No, Sheldon. See, I actually make cabbage rolls quite often. You
> don't. I know what works better, and what doesn't.


For cabbage rolls, stuffed with a meat based filling, I use savoy
cabbage, that stinks a lot less than plain cabbage.
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Il 25/07/2010 14:05, jmcquown ha scritto:

>> Shit, the only reason to open a MW oven on this planet is just MW
>> popcorns!
>> LOL, I love'em, just butter and salt version


> The bagged microwave stuff stinks to high heaven! Make popcorn on the
> cook top like a civilized person


LOL, I don't even have a MW oven so I'm usually cooking them on the
stove-top, but a friend has a MW and I sometimes bring a couple of MW
popcorn bags when going there, and they aren't bad, really.
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Il 25/07/2010 16:14, Nancy Young ha scritto:

> Once I worked in a smaller building and someone microwaved
> some leftover fish. The stench just about cleared the office.
> The person never did that again.


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