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![]() Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. -- regards, piedmont (michael) the practical bbq'r!; http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/ |
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On Jul 28, 10:38*am, piedmont > wrote:
> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch > our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed > luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and > goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli > slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us > common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other > luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with > their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they > can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. > > -- > regards, > > piedmont (michael) > > the practical bbq'r!;http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/ I don't shop Walmart, so I've never seen the product, but good to know that they have "real" (as opposed to pressed) ham. People on a budget shouldn't always have to eat junk. And if you think it tastes good, that's all that matters. Kris |
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On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote:
> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch > our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed > luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and > goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli > slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us > common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other > luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with > their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they > can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. > Went to Walmart this morning. Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. George L |
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piedmont wrote:
> > I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us > common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other > luncheon meats which sell for much more! Watch for wet cured ham sales at regular grocery stores. Especially near big holidays like Christmas and Easter. In the last year I've seen it as low as $1.69 per pound, bone in. When I got it home it was water injected but after draining it was still a good deal. Buy Virginia ham do you mean the dry cured country hams? When I visit the older daughter and younger granddaughter in Arkansas I watch for signs along the highway in Arkansas and Missouri advertizing low prices on country hams. I can get a country ham here in Chicago metro for $7 per pound but I've seen at at roadside stores for half that. |
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On Jul 28, 9:38*am, piedmont > wrote:
> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch > our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed > luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and > goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli > slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us > common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other > luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with > their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they > can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. > > -- > regards, > > piedmont (michael) > > the practical bbq'r!;http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/ I buy my whole boneless hams at the grocery store, and I'm sorry to say they've been $4.29/lb (full price) lately, but sometimes they have them on sale for about 1/2 price! I love it when I find that. Still, $4.29/lb is a lot cheaper than the sliced lunch meat at their deli. John Kuthe... |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
> On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: >> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch >> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed >> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and >> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli >> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us >> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other >> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with >> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they >> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. >> > > Went to Walmart this morning. Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. > Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this > year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. > > George L Then I saw this ham and got three. One made it home. George L. |
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George Leppla > wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla wrote: > > > On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: > >> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch > >> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed > >> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and > >> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli > >> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us > >> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other > >> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with > >> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they > >> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. > >> > > > > Went to Walmart this morning. Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. > > Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this > > year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. > > > > George L > > Then I saw this ham and got three. One made it home. > > George L. What's the Ham per lb.? I may have to check that. I like it when local whole hams go under $1.29 per lb. The skins and bones are killer for making ham stock for lentils, beans or split peas. I must post that ham stock series to Picasa. Ham stock is awesome! I set it overnight to defat it, then shred the cooked skins to use in the final legume recipe. The only drawback is that it's a bit high in sodium... -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:17:49 -0500, Omelet wrote:
> In article >, > George Leppla > wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla wrote: >> >>> On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: >>>> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch >>>> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed >>>> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and >>>> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli >>>> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us >>>> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other >>>> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with >>>> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they >>>> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. >>>> >>> >>> Went to Walmart this morning. Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. >>> Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this >>> year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. >>> >>> George L >> >> Then I saw this ham and got three. One made it home. >> >> George L. > > What's the Ham per lb.? I may have to check that. > I like it when local whole hams go under $1.29 per lb. The skins and > bones are killer for making ham stock for lentils, beans or split peas. > > I must post that ham stock series to Picasa. Ham stock is awesome! I > set it overnight to defat it, then shred the cooked skins to use in the > final legume recipe. > > The only drawback is that it's a bit high in sodium... Drink soda water to get rid of the sodium. The ham is $4.95/lb and I ate two in the car. George L. |
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George Leppla > wrote: > Drink soda water to get rid of the sodium. > > The ham is $4.95/lb and I ate two in the car. > > George L. $4.95 per lb? That's a bit steep but thanks. ;-) -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine |
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On Jul 28, 11:46*pm, George Leppla > wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:17:49 -0500, Omelet wrote: > > In article >, > > *George Leppla > wrote: > > >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla wrote: > > >>> On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: > >>>> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch > >>>> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed > >>>> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and > >>>> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli > >>>> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us > >>>> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other > >>>> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with > >>>> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they > >>>> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. > > >>> Went to Walmart this morning. *Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. > >>> Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this > >>> year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. > > >>> George L > > >> Then I saw this ham and got three. One made it home. > > >> George L. > > > What's the Ham per lb.? * I may have to check that. > > I like it when local whole hams go under $1.29 per lb. *The skins and > > bones are killer for making ham stock for lentils, beans or split peas. > > > I must post that ham stock series to Picasa. Ham stock is awesome! *I > > set it overnight to defat it, then shred the cooked skins to use in the > > final legume recipe. > > > The only drawback is that it's a bit high in sodium... > > Drink soda water to get rid of the sodium. > > The ham is $4.95/lb and I ate two in the car. > > George L. Um, regular water is fine. John Kuthe.. |
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On Jul 29, 6:10*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >, > *George Leppla > wrote: > > > Drink soda water to get rid of the sodium. > > > The ham is $4.95/lb and I ate two in the car. > > > George L. > > $4.95 per lb? *That's a bit steep but thanks. ;-) What I think is remarkable is that he ate two hams in his car. > -- > Peace! Om > --Bryan |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:17:12 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob® wrote:
> On Jul 29, 6:10*am, Omelet > wrote: >> In article >, >> *George Leppla > wrote: >> >>> Drink soda water to get rid of the sodium. >> >>> The ham is $4.95/lb and I ate two in the car. >> >>> George L. >> >> $4.95 per lb? *That's a bit steep but thanks. ;-) > > What I think is remarkable is that he ate two hams in his car. And an apple pie. What can I say, I am who I am. George L. |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:42:59 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
> On Jul 28, 11:46*pm, George Leppla > wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:17:49 -0500, Omelet wrote: >>> In article >, >>> *George Leppla > wrote: >> >>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla wrote: >> >>>>> On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: >>>>>> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch >>>>>> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed >>>>>> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and >>>>>> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli >>>>>> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us >>>>>> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other >>>>>> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with >>>>>> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they >>>>>> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. >> >>>>> Went to Walmart this morning. *Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. >>>>> Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this >>>>> year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. >> >>>>> George L >> >>>> Then I saw this ham and got three. One made it home. >> >>>> George L. >> >>> What's the Ham per lb.? * I may have to check that. >>> I like it when local whole hams go under $1.29 per lb. *The skins and >>> bones are killer for making ham stock for lentils, beans or split peas. >> >>> I must post that ham stock series to Picasa. Ham stock is awesome! *I >>> set it overnight to defat it, then shred the cooked skins to use in the >>> final legume recipe. >> >>> The only drawback is that it's a bit high in sodium... >> >> Drink soda water to get rid of the sodium. >> >> The ham is $4.95/lb and I ate two in the car. >> >> George L. > > Um, regular water is fine. > > John Kuthe.. Um, no. Reg water won't wash the hams down. George L. |
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George Leppzilla wrote:
>Food Snob® wrote: >>Omelet wrote: >>> *George Leppzilla wrote: >>> >>>> Drink soda water to get rid of the sodium. >>> >>>> The ham is $4.95/lb and I ate two in the car. >>> >>> $4.95 per lb? *That's a bit steep but thanks. ;-) >> >> What I think is remarkable is that he ate two hams in his car. > >And an apple pie. What can I say, I am who I am. > >George Lepzilla: http://www.media-post.net/mob4.jpg |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote: >On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: >> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch >> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed >> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and >> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli >> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us >> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other >> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with >> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they >> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. >> > >Went to Walmart this morning. Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. >Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this >year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. > >George L November, we're getting a super WalMart in town, and I can't wait ! The two main grocers in town have had a captive consumers and they set their prices accordingly. Every grocery run produces sticker-shock. Price-shopping at another WalMart shows most items to be at least a quarter cheaper.... For some, up to a buck. Yaaaay...WalMart ! |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:56:08 -0700, "<RJ>" > wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla > wrote: > >>On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: >>> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch >>> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed >>> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and >>> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli >>> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us >>> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other >>> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with >>> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they >>> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. >>> >> >>Went to Walmart this morning. Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. >>Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this >>year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. >> >>George L > >November, we're getting a super WalMart in town, and I can't wait ! > >The two main grocers in town have had a captive consumers >and they set their prices accordingly. >Every grocery run produces sticker-shock. > >Price-shopping at another WalMart shows most items >to be at least a quarter cheaper.... For some, up to a buck. > >Yaaaay...WalMart ! > That's a boy, keep cheering for wallyworld while they import 90% of their shit from overseas (mostly china) while helping to kill off manufacturing jobs in the US. The products in the 10% are American but wallyworld forces them to make it for the cheapest price point possible. This eventually kills off the remaining manufacturing jobs, then you'll get chinese made crap all the time on their shelves, but you'll save a quarter so it's all good right? |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:51:51 -0500, Food Slob® >
wrote: >On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:56:08 -0700, "<RJ>" > wrote: > >> >>November, we're getting a super WalMart in town, and I can't wait ! >> >>The two main grocers in town have had a captive consumers >>and they set their prices accordingly. >>Every grocery run produces sticker-shock. >> >>Price-shopping at another WalMart shows most items >>to be at least a quarter cheaper.... For some, up to a buck. >> > >That's a boy, keep cheering for wallyworld while they import 90% of >their shit from overseas (mostly china) while helping to kill off >manufacturing jobs in the US. The products in the 10% are American but >wallyworld forces them to make it for the cheapest price point >possible. This eventually kills off the remaining manufacturing jobs, >then you'll get chinese made crap all the time on their shelves, but >you'll save a quarter so it's all good right? You miss my point; Our local ( American? ) stores were screwing the customers, "because they could" Sorry guy... a tight food budget has no allegiance. And a can of "WalMart" corn tastes as good as a can of "GreenGiant" For close to a half-a-buck less. BTW; check some of the labels at your "murrican" store. Too much of it is from Asia or Mexico/South America Other products hide country of origin with a "Distributed By" label. |
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On Jul 29, 11:51*am, Food Slob® > wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:56:08 -0700, "<RJ>" > wrote: > >On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla > > wrote: > > >>On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: > >>> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch > >>> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed > >>> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and > >>> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli > >>> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us > >>> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other > >>> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with > >>> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they > >>> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. > > >>Went to Walmart this morning. *Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. > >>Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this > >>year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. > > >>George L > > >November, we're getting a super WalMart in town, and I can't wait ! > > >The two main grocers in town have had a captive consumers > >and they set their prices accordingly. > >Every grocery run produces sticker-shock. > > >Price-shopping at another WalMart shows most items > >to be at least a quarter cheaper.... *For some, up to a buck. > > >Yaaaay...WalMart ! * > > That's a boy, keep cheering for wallyworld while they import 90% of > their shit from overseas (mostly china) while helping to kill off > manufacturing jobs in the US. The products in the 10% are American but > wallyworld forces them to make it for the cheapest price point > possible. This eventually kills off the remaining manufacturing jobs, > then you'll get chinese made crap all the time on their shelves, but > you'll save a quarter so it's all good right? This, from the champion of "But I can get it so much cheaper at WalMart"? When did you come around? John Kuthe... |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:00:59 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote: > On Jul 29, 11:51*am, Food Slob® > wrote: > > > > That's a boy, keep cheering for wallyworld while they import 90% of > > their shit from overseas (mostly china) while helping to kill off > > manufacturing jobs in the US. The products in the 10% are American but > > wallyworld forces them to make it for the cheapest price point > > possible. This eventually kills off the remaining manufacturing jobs, > > then you'll get chinese made crap all the time on their shelves, but > > you'll save a quarter so it's all good right? > > This, from the champion of "But I can get it so much cheaper at > WalMart"? > > When did you come around? > Is that his email? -- Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:53:06 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:
> George Leppzilla wrote: >>Food Snob® wrote: >>>Omelet wrote: >>>> *George Leppzilla wrote: >>>> >>>>> Drink soda water to get rid of the sodium. >>>> >>>>> The ham is $4.95/lb and I ate two in the car. >>>> >>>> $4.95 per lb? *That's a bit steep but thanks. ;-) >>> >>> What I think is remarkable is that he ate two hams in his car. >> >>And an apple pie. What can I say, I am who I am. >> >>George Lepzilla: > http://www.media-post.net/mob4.jpg Anytime you want to kiss them... George L. |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:00:59 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote: >On Jul 29, 11:51*am, Food Slob® > wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:56:08 -0700, "<RJ>" > wrote: >> >On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla >> > wrote: >> >> >>On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: >> >>> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch >> >>> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed >> >>> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and >> >>> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli >> >>> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us >> >>> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other >> >>> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with >> >>> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they >> >>> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. >> >> >>Went to Walmart this morning. *Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. >> >>Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this >> >>year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. >> >> >>George L >> >> >November, we're getting a super WalMart in town, and I can't wait ! >> >> >The two main grocers in town have had a captive consumers >> >and they set their prices accordingly. >> >Every grocery run produces sticker-shock. >> >> >Price-shopping at another WalMart shows most items >> >to be at least a quarter cheaper.... *For some, up to a buck. >> >> >Yaaaay...WalMart ! * >> >> That's a boy, keep cheering for wallyworld while they import 90% of >> their shit from overseas (mostly china) while helping to kill off >> manufacturing jobs in the US. The products in the 10% are American but >> wallyworld forces them to make it for the cheapest price point >> possible. This eventually kills off the remaining manufacturing jobs, >> then you'll get chinese made crap all the time on their shelves, but >> you'll save a quarter so it's all good right? > >This, from the champion of "But I can get it so much cheaper at >WalMart"? > >When did you come around? > >John Kuthe... Always have been to a point, when the local wallworld began selling cheap assed chinese crap and put a very good friend of mine out of business that's when I drew the line. |
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![]() "<RJ>" > wrote > November, we're getting a super WalMart in town, and I can't wait ! > > The two main grocers in town have had a captive consumers > and they set their prices accordingly. > Every grocery run produces sticker-shock. > > Price-shopping at another WalMart shows most items > to be at least a quarter cheaper.... For some, up to a buck. > > Yaaaay...WalMart ! A can of soup is a can of soup and saving money is good. I'd not buy there meats though, as they are all the water added stuff. |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:51:51 -0500, Food Slob® >
wrote: >On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:56:08 -0700, "<RJ>" > wrote: > >>On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:49:12 -0500, George Leppla > wrote: >> >>>On 7/28/2010 9:38 AM, piedmont wrote: >>>> Don't blow me crap on this post, There are some of us that need to watch >>>> our budgets, there is a ham at Walmart which is not a ground up and pressed >>>> luncheon meat type product, it is ham, it's called Kentucky Ledgend and >>>> goes for $3.19 per pound here in the Carolina's. No bone so I have the Deli >>>> slice it for more. I know it's not an authentic Virginia ham but for us >>>> common folks this is a great deal, cheaper than the pressed ham and other >>>> luncheon meats which sell for much more! This post is not for those with >>>> their noses up in the air! Just a notice for those who want the best they >>>> can afford and have real food and not processed to the extreme. >>>> >>> >>>Went to Walmart this morning. Bought two watermelons for $4.48 each. >>>Got some peaches and nectarines for 99 cents a pound (really good this >>>year) and some green onions for $1 a bunch. >>> >>>George L >> >>November, we're getting a super WalMart in town, and I can't wait ! >> >>The two main grocers in town have had a captive consumers >>and they set their prices accordingly. >>Every grocery run produces sticker-shock. >> >>Price-shopping at another WalMart shows most items >>to be at least a quarter cheaper.... For some, up to a buck. >> >>Yaaaay...WalMart ! >> > >That's a boy, keep cheering for wallyworld while they import 90% of >their shit from overseas (mostly china) while helping to kill off >manufacturing jobs in the US. The products in the 10% are American but >wallyworld forces them to make it for the cheapest price point >possible. This eventually kills off the remaining manufacturing jobs, >then you'll get chinese made crap all the time on their shelves, but >you'll save a quarter so it's all good right? I don't want to get into a p***ing contest here, but what I buy at WalMart looks a whole lot like the stuff I buy at any other "American" store, only at about 20% to 40% cheaper. Things like Levi jeans, Tide laundry detergent, Tootsie Roll Midgees, Pepsi and Coke in the 12 packs. And I'm pretty sure the milk and eggs don't come from China. Sure they have some Chinese made stuff, so does every other store in town. Some of it is not so good, some of it is very good. You just have to be a selective shopper. Any more it is a world wide market with every country making something we buy as well as every other country buying something we sell. We probably buy more since it's only natural that the goods follow the money. We're fortunate enough to be one of the countries with more disposable income. Don't blame WalMart or other discounters if the poorer countries of the world want to advance their manufacturing base. That's how they become consumers like us. :-) Ron Kelley |
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Food Slob? > wrote: > That's a boy, keep cheering for wallyworld while they import 90% of > their shit from overseas (mostly china) while helping to kill off > manufacturing jobs in the US. The products in the 10% are American but > wallyworld forces them to make it for the cheapest price point > possible. This eventually kills off the remaining manufacturing jobs, > then you'll get chinese made crap all the time on their shelves, but > you'll save a quarter so it's all good right? What a lot of people fail to see is that American Manufacturing tends to be too expensive with all the folderol involved. Chinese importing creates jobs. It makes if AFFORDABLE to purchase goods for resale. That creates a need for employees to do sales work etc. Importing is not the evil that people make it out to be. If Wal-mart could not purchase imported goods, they'd go out of business and put hundreds of thousands more out of work. They'd go bankrupt. Also, the American people demand low prices and cheap goods. We are doing this to ourselves. -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine |
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Food Slob® > wrote: > Always have been to a point, when the local wallworld began selling > cheap assed chinese crap and put a very good friend of mine out of > business that's when I drew the line. Your friend should have had the brains to investigate chinese importing. It is complicated and involves some research (that any local SBA office will help you with for free) but America is based on capitalism. Compete or perish. -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> *Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote: > A can of soup is a can of soup and saving money is good. I'd not buy there > meats though, as they are all the water added stuff. Ditto. I purchase no meat at Wal-mart because it's all saline injected crap. But if the produce is well priced... To be perfectly honest, I only shop Wal-mart for stuff I cannot get at Target, Lowe's or Fiesta. The only item I get there on a fairly regular basis is bags of baby spinach leaves as they are literally 1/2 the price of the ones at HEB and baby spinach is a staple diet item for me. I love the stuff. I've not compared Fiesta's price on those yet as I only just started shopping there. If they compare, I will no longer shop at Wal-mart, mainly because it's out of my way and way too crowded, and not competitive enough to bother with. And Fiesta has far better meat deals and does not inject their meat with saline! I do low carb... <g> and Fiesta carries Cress! Wal-mart does not. -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> *Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine |
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![]() > Food Slob® > wrote: > >> Always have been to a point, when the local wallworld began selling >> cheap assed chinese crap and put a very good friend of mine out of >> business that's when I drew the line. In spite of many false claims, Wal Mart has never put anyone out of business. |
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On 7/30/2010 1:44 AM, Omelet wrote:
> In >, > Food > wrote: > >> That's a boy, keep cheering for wallyworld while they import 90% of >> their shit from overseas (mostly china) while helping to kill off >> manufacturing jobs in the US. The products in the 10% are American but >> wallyworld forces them to make it for the cheapest price point >> possible. This eventually kills off the remaining manufacturing jobs, >> then you'll get chinese made crap all the time on their shelves, but >> you'll save a quarter so it's all good right? > > What a lot of people fail to see is that American Manufacturing tends to > be too expensive with all the folderol involved. > > Chinese importing creates jobs. It makes if AFFORDABLE to purchase > goods for resale. That creates a need for employees to do sales work etc. Sure, at considerably less income for the employees which leads to situations like we have now where at least half of the folks on our states welfare system are Walmart employees. > > Importing is not the evil that people make it out to be. > > If Wal-mart could not purchase imported goods, they'd go out of business > and put hundreds of thousands more out of work. They'd go bankrupt. Actually no. > > Also, the American people demand low prices and cheap goods. Some do and some are willing to pay a reasonable price if it means we don't cannibalize ourselves. > > We are doing this to ourselves. Yes, many of the folks who are now looking for jobs or are in crappy low paying jobs because better jobs just don't exist don't realize they got there by patronizing Walmart and friends. |
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:03:46 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote: > > >> Food Slob® > wrote: >> >>> Always have been to a point, when the local wallworld began selling >>> cheap assed chinese crap and put a very good friend of mine out of >>> business that's when I drew the line. > >In spite of many false claims, Wal Mart has never put anyone out of >business. The mom-pops put themselves out of business with exhorbitant prices, poor service, and in many cases arrogant attitude. The small stores were so used to being the only show in town that when competition arrived they simply gave up... the small stores were ripping folks off for decades, good riddance. |
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Omelet > wrote: > What a lot of people fail to see is that American Manufacturing tends to > be too expensive with all the folderol involved. > > Chinese importing creates jobs. It makes if AFFORDABLE to purchase > goods for resale. That creates a need for employees to do sales work etc. > > Importing is not the evil that people make it out to be. > > If Wal-mart could not purchase imported goods, they'd go out of business > and put hundreds of thousands more out of work. They'd go bankrupt. > > Also, the American people demand low prices and cheap goods. > > We are doing this to ourselves. You need to repeat that last sentence several times. There's been a long history in the US of business (not just Walmart) manipulating markets for their own profit. To the extent that businesses compete on an even keel, I have no problem with that. To the extent that some businesses get tax breaks, drive their competition out of business and use excessive government services which *we* pay for; that's just not my concept of a free market with free market competition. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:44:02 -0500, Omelet wrote:
> In article >, > Food Slob? > wrote: > >> That's a boy, keep cheering for wallyworld while they import 90% of >> their shit from overseas (mostly china) while helping to kill off >> manufacturing jobs in the US. The products in the 10% are American but >> wallyworld forces them to make it for the cheapest price point >> possible. This eventually kills off the remaining manufacturing jobs, >> then you'll get chinese made crap all the time on their shelves, but >> you'll save a quarter so it's all good right? > > What a lot of people fail to see is that American Manufacturing tends to > be too expensive with all the folderol involved. > > Chinese importing creates jobs. It makes if AFFORDABLE to purchase > goods for resale. That creates a need for employees to do sales work etc. > > Importing is not the evil that people make it out to be. > > If Wal-mart could not purchase imported goods, they'd go out of business > and put hundreds of thousands more out of work. They'd go bankrupt. > > Also, the American people demand low prices and cheap goods. > > We are doing this to ourselves. walmart 'creates' minimum-wage retail jobs. massive imports from china destroys relatively well-paying manufacturing jobsand sends those wages overseas. this really isn't that hard a concept. blake |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:35:24 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:
> In article > >, > Food Snob® > wrote: > >> On Jul 29, 6:10*am, Omelet > wrote: >>> In article >, >>> *George Leppla > wrote: >>> >>> > Drink soda water to get rid of the sodium. >>> >>> > The ham is $4.95/lb and I ate two in the car. >>> >>> > George L. >>> >>> $4.95 per lb? *That's a bit steep but thanks. ;-) >> >> What I think is remarkable is that he ate two hams in his car. > > Who? The troll? > > Somebody's got it in for George, and is spoofing his posts. Note the > slightly different Email address. thanks to whoever pointed out that difference ' vs ,' i believe. but anyone with any intelligence should have noticed the difference between the two right away. the real george is a pretty reasonable guy, not a sheldon or morrow clone. your pal, blake |
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![]() "blake murphy" > wrote >> Also, the American people demand low prices and cheap goods. >> >> We are doing this to ourselves. > > walmart 'creates' minimum-wage retail jobs. massive imports from china > destroys relatively well-paying manufacturing jobsand sends those wages > overseas. this really isn't that hard a concept. > > blake It goes around in circles. We want the lowest price, we want the highest wages. We can't have both as long as offshore businesses are offering goods at lower prices and we choose to buy them. Want to buy a US made toaster? There are none, but we do have an alternative. Instead of a $10 to $50 made in China model, buy a Dualit made in England for $200 instead. Want a TV made in the USA? There are none that I know of. WalMart does no manufacturing either. They did not send one job overseas that I'm aware of. Suppliers that are begging to sell to the discount stores did that to themselves in the name of higher profit. |
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![]() "brooklyn1" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:03:46 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" > > wrote: > >> >> >>> Food Slob® > wrote: >>> >>>> Always have been to a point, when the local wallworld began selling >>>> cheap assed chinese crap and put a very good friend of mine out of >>>> business that's when I drew the line. >> >>In spite of many false claims, Wal Mart has never put anyone out of >>business. > > The mom-pops put themselves out of business with exhorbitant prices, > poor service, and in many cases arrogant attitude. The small stores > were so used to being the only show in town that when competition > arrived they simply gave up... the small stores were ripping folks off > for decades, good riddance. I'm in the process of dealing with a local store right now. Last Sunday out clothes dryer dies (29 years old so I'm not going to fix it). That day we looked at various models at Home Depot and saw one we wanted to buy. If we ordered that day, delivery would be Thursday. I waited until the next day to get a price from the local store. His price was $30 higher and I was told delivery would be Wed. or Thurs. OK, I'll spend a few bucks more and keep the money in town and get good service if ever needed. No delivery, no phone call. Not hearing anything, I called around 1 PM Thursday to find out about delivery. "It did not come from the warehouse so I can't give you a time for delivery tomorrow until 3:30" No call. Today I called at noon and was told it was on the way from Hartford and would be delivered this afternoon, but not sure of the time. Still waiting. Will I pay more for good service next time? Probably not. I'm paying more, getting less. A simple phone call would have given me a different attitude. |
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:55:22 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote: > >"brooklyn1" > wrote in message .. . >> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:03:46 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> Food Slob® > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Always have been to a point, when the local wallworld began selling >>>>> cheap assed chinese crap and put a very good friend of mine out of >>>>> business that's when I drew the line. >>> >>>In spite of many false claims, Wal Mart has never put anyone out of >>>business. >> >> The mom-pops put themselves out of business with exhorbitant prices, >> poor service, and in many cases arrogant attitude. The small stores >> were so used to being the only show in town that when competition >> arrived they simply gave up... the small stores were ripping folks off >> for decades, good riddance. > >I'm in the process of dealing with a local store right now. > >Last Sunday out clothes dryer dies (29 years old so I'm not going to fix >it). That day we looked at various models at Home Depot and saw one we >wanted to buy. If we ordered that day, delivery would be Thursday. I >waited until the next day to get a price from the local store. His price >was $30 higher and I was told delivery would be Wed. or Thurs. OK, I'll >spend a few bucks more and keep the money in town and get good service if >ever needed. No delivery, no phone call. Not hearing anything, I called >around 1 PM Thursday to find out about delivery. "It did not come from the >warehouse so I can't give you a time for delivery tomorrow until 3:30" No >call. Today I called at noon and was told it was on the way from Hartford >and would be delivered this afternoon, but not sure of the time. Still >waiting. > >Will I pay more for good service next time? Probably not. I'm paying more, >getting less. A simple phone call would have given me a different attitude. There are still some few small neighborhood stores that give good prices and good service but they are becoming very rare. Recently my clothes drier needed a repair, stupid me wnet to vacuum the lint trap vent and the little brush thingied fell down into the vent tube, and stupid me did this while the drier was running. duh Try as I might I couldn't fish that little thing out... next I attempeted to move the drier out from the wall (which necessitated disconnecting the vent connection) and removing the back of the unit. I got it half undone when I noticed that there would be a lot more taking apart. So I figured I'll check the Yellow Pages. Every local appliance store told me that they only service what they sell, meaning if I didn't buy it there they won't service it... well I bought the drier some 12 years ago, well before I lived here... don't these jerks want to garner new potential customers??? obviously not. So I phoned Sears and they would send someone out in a week... okay, I can live without a drier for a week... they also told me the minimum price would be $80, parts extra. But I needed no parts. Then soon as I hung up one of the locals called and said they could *fit me in*, okay, for $60 I went for it. The guy did arrive in 30 minutes and repaired the machine in 20 minutes... he knew exactly how to get into that space without taking off even one extra screw. I would consider buying my next appliance there. But this is not the norm, many small business owners are plain nasty. |
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![]() "brooklyn1" > wrote > Every local appliance store told > me that they only service what they sell, meaning if I didn't buy it > there they won't service it... well I bought the drier some 12 years > ago, well before I lived here... don't these jerks want to garner new > potential customers??? obviously not. I had the same experience after we moved 270 miles. Local dealers would not service our appliances, but one did; the others are now out of business and good riddance. That is the one may years later that I've bought a freezer, washer, range, dishwasher from. The store has changed hands a couple of times in those years. But it is now 3:15 and no delivery yet. This may be the last I get from them if it does not arrive before we are to go out later. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote: > "brooklyn1" > wrote in message > > The mom-pops put themselves out of business with exhorbitant prices, > > poor service, and in many cases arrogant attitude. The small stores > > were so used to being the only show in town that when competition > > arrived they simply gave up... the small stores were ripping folks off > > for decades, good riddance. Gosh! I never knew that Sheldon had a small business? > I'm in the process of dealing with a local store right now. > > Last Sunday out clothes dryer dies (29 years old so I'm not going to fix > it). That day we looked at various models at Home Depot and saw one we > wanted to buy. If we ordered that day, delivery would be Thursday. I > waited until the next day to get a price from the local store. His price > was $30 higher and I was told delivery would be Wed. or Thurs. OK, I'll > spend a few bucks more and keep the money in town and get good service if > ever needed. No delivery, no phone call. Not hearing anything, I called > around 1 PM Thursday to find out about delivery. "It did not come from the > warehouse so I can't give you a time for delivery tomorrow until 3:30" No > call. Today I called at noon and was told it was on the way from Hartford > and would be delivered this afternoon, but not sure of the time. Still > waiting. > > Will I pay more for good service next time? Probably not. I'm paying more, > getting less. A simple phone call would have given me a different attitude. Yeah, it's too bad. Too many people want to "be their own boss, and answer to no one", and so go into business for themselves. They don't realize that if they don't make themselves a servant to their customers, the business won't do well. And if they want to mistreat their employees as well? They'll face a high turnover, with associated high training costs and less than the best workers. And if they screw their employees too much, well, watch that shrinkage! It's pretty much impossible to play the bigshot boss and do whatever you want, while still watching the shop with an eagle eye to prevent employee theft. There are a lot of good, small businesses that give excellent service, but they just can't compete on price. I heard a horror story many years back. The price that one big chain was paying for a line of merchandise from a manufacturer was *less* than that manufacturer charged its wholesale distributors! So a small retailer of that line, was not only going to pay a higher price than a larger retailer, but even the largest retail customer can't get a competitive price from a wholesaler since the wholesaler is paying more than the big chains! In effect, WalMart is its own wholesaler. If you look at one of their distribution centers, that is easy to believe. They are huge, with a solid line of trucks filling the highways around them. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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On 7/30/2010 1:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > "blake murphy" > wrote >>> Also, the American people demand low prices and cheap goods. >>> >>> We are doing this to ourselves. >> >> walmart 'creates' minimum-wage retail jobs. massive imports from china >> destroys relatively well-paying manufacturing jobsand sends those wages >> overseas. this really isn't that hard a concept. >> >> blake > > It goes around in circles. We want the lowest price, we want the highest > wages. We can't have both as long as offshore businesses are offering > goods at lower prices and we choose to buy them. > > Want to buy a US made toaster? There are none, but we do have an > alternative. Instead of a $10 to $50 made in China model, buy a Dualit > made in England for $200 instead. Want a TV made in the USA? There are > none that I know of. > > WalMart does no manufacturing either. They did not send one job overseas > that I'm aware of. Suppliers that are begging to sell to the discount > stores did that to themselves in the name of higher profit. > > > That is a big oversimplification. First, you are simply guessing about the higher profit part. Suppose your competitors all decide to sell to Walmart and you don't and say your refusal represents a significant fraction of your sales. So you may do it simply to keep the doors open. |
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On 7/30/2010 11:00 AM, Dan Abel wrote:
> In >, > > wrote: > >> What a lot of people fail to see is that American Manufacturing tends to >> be too expensive with all the folderol involved. >> >> Chinese importing creates jobs. It makes if AFFORDABLE to purchase >> goods for resale. That creates a need for employees to do sales work etc. >> >> Importing is not the evil that people make it out to be. >> >> If Wal-mart could not purchase imported goods, they'd go out of business >> and put hundreds of thousands more out of work. They'd go bankrupt. >> >> Also, the American people demand low prices and cheap goods. >> >> We are doing this to ourselves. > > You need to repeat that last sentence several times. There's been a > long history in the US of business (not just Walmart) manipulating > markets for their own profit. To the extent that businesses compete on > an even keel, I have no problem with that. To the extent that some > businesses get tax breaks, drive their competition out of business and > use excessive government services which *we* pay for; that's just not my > concept of a free market with free market competition. > You essentially stated my issues with Walmart. Unfortunately lots of folks are only interested in important stuff like American idol and have no idea what you are describing. Walmart gets huge help from us (we pay for the government) in my state. There are four Walmarts in my general area and now the 4th one will be vacating their current location to literally move across the street. So why do they move? In my state we (the taxpayers) find and develop the land for them and then build all of the infrastructure (highway interchange, traffic signals, electric, water, sewage, storm sewers etc) and then give them a nine year tax abatement. So they don't pay taxes for nine years and when the time is running out they simply have us do it all again. In the case of the 4th store we have spent the last year literally leveling a mountain for them so the yca nmove across the street. I tell people that even if they live in a dollhouse they pay more taxes than Walmart and they think I am making it up even though it is verifiable at the county. And then add in the fact that employees are informed to go to the nearest welfare office for their medical plan since a very high percentage of their employees meet official poverty guidelines. In my state over 50% of the welfare budget goes to Walmart employees. |
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