First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.

http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html

Has the world gone completely nuts?

-sw

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:56:11 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
> -sw

i saw that earlier this morning. between that and the costco riot, it
makes you wonder what they're putting in the chicken.

your pal,
blake

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward,
> and
> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
> -sw

>
Oh my god! She committed assault and battery over something as stupid as
McD's chicken nuggets? I doubt they're good enough to bother getting out of
the car for.

Reminds me of the Michael Douglas film 'Falling Down'. For those who
haven't seen it, the guy was having a really bad day. He goes into a place
and tried to order breakfast. Except it was about 5 minutes after the joint
stopped serving breakfast. So he pulled out an Uzi or something similar
(another part of his bad day, some punks tried to mug him; he got the best
of them then picked up a sachel containing all kids of weapons). The
manager finally talked him into ordering a burger instead. Then he got
upset because it looked nothing like the picture. Do they ever? LOL It was
a very strange, dark movie.

Jill

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> Has the world gone completely nuts?

Yes.

The human psyche is particularly susceptible to "victim mentality" and
we are seeing that more and more. It's all part of the Great Global Tidy
Bowl Swirl (tm)...

Pete C. wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
>> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>>
>> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>>
>> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
> Yes.
>
> The human psyche is particularly susceptible to "victim mentality" and
> we are seeing that more and more. It's all part of the Great Global Tidy
> Bowl Swirl (tm)...


Check out projectRANT.com :-)

Here's an amusing example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmSvtcqXF0

(I also like the one with the old woman fussing about Honda drivers)

Bob

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:46:37 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:56:11 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
> > now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
> >
> > http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
> >
> > Has the world gone completely nuts?
> >
> > -sw
>
> i saw that earlier this morning. between that and the costco riot, it
> makes you wonder what they're putting in the chicken.
>

I couldn't get away from repeated showings of those two videos
yesterday. As boring as it gets, TV should show more people in the
middle of their public temper tantrums along with noting them being
charged and arrested. A little public shame will be good for people
like that.

--

Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

On 8/11/2010 10:56 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> Has the world gone completely nuts?

I do wonder what else was going on in her life that not being able to
get McNuggets pushed her over the edge.

On 2010-08-11, sf > wrote:

> middle of their public temper tantrums along with noting them being
> charged and arrested. A little public shame will be good for people
> like that.

.....as would a bullet to the brain pan.

nb

On Aug 11, 11:30*am, "J. Clarke" > wrote:
> On 8/11/2010 10:56 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
> > now it's McNugget rage! *This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> >http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> > Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
> I do wonder what else was going on in her life that not being able to
> get McNuggets pushed her over the edge.

==
You would not believe how many "spoiled brats" there are in this
world. North American society churns them out en masse. Instant
gratification is the rule, not the exception. Why wait for
anything?...scream and holler and dad or mom will provide it...the kid
will hate you forever if he/she isn't catered to, don't you know?
==

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward,
> and
> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
> -sw
Yup!
Here's another:
http://showhype.com/video/retail-rag...-has-meltdown/

Graham

In article >,
J. Clarke > wrote:
>On 8/11/2010 10:56 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
>> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>>
>> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>>
>> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
>I do wonder what else was going on in her life that not being able to
>get McNuggets pushed her over the edge.

Having seen the vid, I wouldn't take money against "high as a kite".

I hope she got some help for that (or whatever) as part of her
sentencing.

Charlotte
--

jmcquown wrote:
>
> The video link you posted doesn't show where she actually smashed the
> drive-thru window with a bottle.
>
> http://www.onlykent.com/20100811/mcd...do-plus-video/
>
> Good lord. What a nutcase. And over something as stupid as chicken
> McNuggets?

She's not bad-looking. That's all that matters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301900

On Aug 11, 1:24*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:46:37 -0400, blake murphy
>
> > wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:56:11 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > > First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
> > > now it's McNugget rage! *This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> > >http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> > > Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
> > > -sw
>
> > i saw that earlier this morning. *between that and the costco riot, it
> > makes you wonder what they're putting in the chicken.
>
> I couldn't get away from repeated showings of those two videos
> yesterday. *As boring as it gets, TV should show more people in the
> middle of their public temper tantrums along with noting them being
> charged and arrested. *A little public shame will be good for people
> like that.


Shame? What's THAT? Possibly an unknown emotion for some people.

Kalmia wrote:
>
> On Aug 11, 1:24 pm, sf > wrote:
> >
> > I couldn't get away from repeated showings of those two videos
> > yesterday. As boring as it gets, TV should show more people in the
> > middle of their public temper tantrums along with noting them being
> > charged and arrested. A little public shame will be good for people
> > like that.
>
> Shame? What's THAT? Possibly an unknown emotion for some people.

It's all those drugs they put in the chicken feed.

Jill wrote:

> Reminds me of the Michael Douglas film 'Falling Down'. For those who
> haven't seen it, the guy was having a really bad day. He goes into a
> place and tried to order breakfast. Except it was about 5 minutes after
> the joint stopped serving breakfast. So he pulled out an Uzi or something
> similar (another part of his bad day, some punks tried to mug him; he got
> the best of them then picked up a sachel containing all kids of weapons).
> The manager finally talked him into ordering a burger instead. Then he
> got upset because it looked nothing like the picture. Do they ever? LOL
> It was a very strange, dark movie.

Heh... one of my coworkers here bears a resemblance to the Michael Douglas
character in that film. We expect him to snap any day.

Bob

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:53:38 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2010-08-11, sf > wrote:
>
> > middle of their public temper tantrums along with noting them being
> > charged and arrested. A little public shame will be good for people
> > like that.
>
> ....as would a bullet to the brain pan.
>
Who's going to do it? No me and certainly not the police. They have
enough trouble as it is. Just look at the Mehserle case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Po...of_Oscar_Grant


--

Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
> -sw

Pretty much.

--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of
St. Pectina of Jella
"Always in a jam, never in a stew;
sometimes in a pickle."
Where are my pearls, Honey?

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:26:01 -0600, "graham" > wrote:

> Here's another:
> http://showhype.com/video/retail-rag...-has-meltdown/
>
That was rather dignified for a melt down. He was angry, but he
didn't melt down. He's clearly a nut that is persona non grata at
Eaton. There were shoppers inside who obviously were directed to use
another exit for the moment.

--

Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:35:33 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

> Sorry. I don't give a damn what is going on in her life. There is zero
> excuse for acting like that in public.
>
> I truly do hope she served some jail time...

I think they said she got 20 days in the slammer.

--

Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
>> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>>
>> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>>
>> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>>
>> -sw
>


Yes. My generation was the last sane one.

And I hope McNugget Maniac's lawyer is disbarred if he tries to blame it
on low blood sugar or friend chicken addiction or something equally lame.

gloria p

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward,
> and
> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
You have to ask?
Graham

J. Clarke wrote:

> I do wonder what else was going on in her life that not being able to
> get McNuggets pushed her over the edge.

My vote is a little crystal meth or crack....

gloria.p wrote:

> And I hope McNugget Maniac's lawyer is disbarred if he tries to blame it
> on low blood sugar or friend chicken addiction or something equally lame.
>
> gloria p

The Twinkie Defense?

graham wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward,
>> and
>> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>>
>> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>>
>> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>>
>> -sw
>>
> Yup!
> Here's another:
> http://showhype.com/video/retail-rag...-has-meltdown/
>
> Graham
>
>
>
The dude is Canadian and has a purse...

Mark Thorson wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> The video link you posted doesn't show where she actually smashed the
>> drive-thru window with a bottle.
>>
>> http://www.onlykent.com/20100811/mcd...do-plus-video/
>>
>> Good lord. What a nutcase. And over something as stupid as chicken
>> McNuggets?
>>
> She's not bad-looking. That's all that matters.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301900
>
She's not good looking either.

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:56:11 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>
> -sw

Irrational anger and hatred, another unprovoked attack!!!

I STRONGLY resemble that remark!!! What a great concept!

Please don't killfile me again, it breaks my little heart....

<sniff>

<waving at fast food> Hi Jerry! Who's your daddy?

Ooops...

Sqwerly sqwerlz p

On 8/11/2010 4:08 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> The video link you posted doesn't show where she actually smashed the
>> drive-thru window with a bottle.
>>
>> http://www.onlykent.com/20100811/mcd...do-plus-video/
>>
>> Good lord. What a nutcase. And over something as stupid as chicken
>> McNuggets?
>
> She's not bad-looking. That's all that matters.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301900

My midlife crisis looked something like that. She was whackadoodle too.
Hoarded cats. I like cats but 31 was too many.

On 8/11/2010 12:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane
>> steward, and
>> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>>
>> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>>
>> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>>
>> -sw
>
>>
> Oh my god! She committed assault and battery over something as stupid as
> McD's chicken nuggets? I doubt they're good enough to bother getting out
> of the car for.
>
> Reminds me of the Michael Douglas film 'Falling Down'. For those who
> haven't seen it, the guy was having a really bad day. He goes into a
> place and tried to order breakfast. Except it was about 5 minutes after
> the joint stopped serving breakfast. So he pulled out an Uzi or
> something similar (another part of his bad day, some punks tried to mug
> him; he got the best of them then picked up a sachel containing all kids
> of weapons). The manager finally talked him into ordering a burger
> instead. Then he got upset because it looked nothing like the picture.
> Do they ever? LOL It was a very strange, dark movie.
>
> Jill

I always think of that movie every time I see the difference between
what the marketing department tells us and what the product actually
looks like.

jmcquown wrote:

> Oh my god! She committed assault and battery over something as
> stupid as McD's chicken nuggets? I doubt they're good enough to
> bother getting out of the car for.

Maybe that particular McDs got great reviews for their nuggets!
(laugh) (inside joke)

> Reminds me of the Michael Douglas film 'Falling Down'. For those who
> haven't seen it, the guy was having a really bad day. He goes into a
> place and tried to order breakfast. Except it was about 5 minutes
> after the joint stopped serving breakfast. So he pulled out an Uzi
> or something similar (another part of his bad day, some punks tried
> to mug him; he got the best of them then picked up a sachel
> containing all kids of weapons). The manager finally talked him into
> ordering a burger instead. Then he got upset because it looked
> nothing like the picture. Do they ever? LOL It was a very strange,
> dark movie.

I thought it was going to be a funny movie, instead it was really
disturbing!

nancy

Perpetrators have all the rights. I think cops should be able to use deadly force more; but so many cops are unstable, it's nuts.

I loved Falling Down, though the traffic jam scene at the beginning is excruciating.

I would venture a guess to say that most with rage issues were enabled by mom and dad as kids. Tantrum gets you what you want.

Heaven forbid a cop taze somebody, like that idiot in the Red Sox game.

I love it when the cops get sued because of some meth head losing it. Yeah, Rodney King beating was the wrong thing to do. Guess what? he went through all his settlement money on dope. Smoke it up, Rod. I know we should all be equal under the law; but when you've proven that you can't follow the laws at all, maybe it's time to forget about rehabilitation and think about throwing away the key and focusing on those who desire help. You can't counsel someone who doesn't desire change. These raging folks , if enabled as kids, think they are in the right. Mom told them so.

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:34:07 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:53:38 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2010-08-11, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> middle of their public temper tantrums along with noting them being
>>> charged and arrested. A little public shame will be good for people
>>> like that.
>>
>> ....as would a bullet to the brain pan.
>>
> Who's going to do it? No me and certainly not the police. They have
> enough trouble as it is. Just look at the Mehserle case.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Po...of_Oscar_Grant

The Austin Police Department can't shoot back at anyone without getting
sued. Shit, they even bowed down and shot a dog yesterday, and all hell
still broke loose.

Austin police can only open fire on unmarried, childless,
non-denominational White males from now on. They don't even need to be
criminals. Just pop a few White guys and call it even, OK?

-sw

On 8/11/10 9:33 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward, and
>> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>>
>> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>>
>> Has the world gone completely nuts?
>>
>> -sw
>
>>
> Oh my god! She committed assault and battery over something as stupid as
> McD's chicken nuggets? I doubt they're good enough to bother getting out of
> the car for.

She was probably spoiled by her parents. I base that by the comments I read
from her mother in this CBS News article:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6759567.shtml

The article states that "The passenger's mother says it was the employees
who allowed it all to escalate. "

Sheesh, no one this 25-year-old is all screwed up.

Note that she was trying to order Chicken McNuggets at 6:30 AM in the
morning! Not at, lets say 10:20 AM (which on weekdays is just 10 minutes
before they start server the regular Lunch & Dinner menu).


- Peter

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:34:07 -0700, sf wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:53:38 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2010-08-11, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >>> middle of their public temper tantrums along with noting them being
> >>> charged and arrested. A little public shame will be good for people
> >>> like that.
> >>
> >> ....as would a bullet to the brain pan.
> >>
> > Who's going to do it? No me and certainly not the police. They have
> > enough trouble as it is. Just look at the Mehserle case.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Po...of_Oscar_Grant
>
> The Austin Police Department can't shoot back at anyone without getting
> sued. Shit, they even bowed down and shot a dog yesterday, and all hell
> still broke loose.
>
> Austin police can only open fire on unmarried, childless,
> non-denominational White males from now on. They don't even need to be
> criminals. Just pop a few White guys and call it even, OK?
>
> -sw

This is Texas, the cops just need to look the other way for a few
minutes while a civilian takes care of the problem for them.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> First it was the CostCo rotisserie chickens, then the airplane steward,
> and
> now it's McNugget rage! This one tops the first two, IMNSHO.
>
> http://www.wpxi.com/video/24572107/index.html
>
> Has the world gone completely nuts?

I honestly think a lot of rage and other emotions are a result of
misdirected aggression. But in the case of MsMcNuggett, I think she was
just on drugs.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...

>
> The Austin Police Department can't shoot back at anyone without getting
> sued. Shit, they even bowed down and shot a dog yesterday, and all hell
> still broke loose.
>
All hell breaks loose when police shoot dogs here, too. There was a case
about a year or two ago where the house of a mayor of a nearby city was
raided and the elderly mother and wife were bound by the police and the dogs
shot all because of a shipment of drugs not meant for them.


> Austin police can only open fire on unmarried, childless,
> non-denominational White males from now on. They don't even need to be
> criminals. Just pop a few White guys and call it even, OK?
>
> -sw

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:33:57 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> Reminds me of the Michael Douglas film 'Falling Down'.

That was one of my favorite movies. Pair it with "U-Turn" (Sean Penn, and
Whatsherface) and chase 'em with a couple 6-packs.

-sw

Cheryl wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>> The Austin Police Department can't shoot back at anyone without getting
>> sued. Shit, they even bowed down and shot a dog yesterday, and all hell
>> still broke loose.
>>
> All hell breaks loose when police shoot dogs here, too. There was a
> case about a year or two ago where the house of a mayor of a nearby city
> was raided and the elderly mother and wife were bound by the police and
> the dogs shot all because of a shipment of drugs not meant for them.
>
>


I remember that case, in Berwyn Heights, MD. The mayor's name was
Calvo. The police knew the drugs were not intended for Calvo,
*because they planted them* on the porch. They went apeshit when
someone inside the house saw them lurking outside and "blew their
cover". One of the dogs they shot was running away and they
followed it into the other room so they could shoot it.

The police deny any wrongdoing, have only conditionally cleared
Calvo, and as far as I know have refused to settle and a lawsuit is
still pending.

If someone as politically-connected as a mayor still hasn't gotten
satisfaction after 2 years, what chance to any of us peons have?

Bob

On 8/11/2010 11:03, Pete C. wrote:
>
> The human psyche is particularly susceptible to "victim mentality" and
> we are seeing that more and more. It's all part of the Great Global Tidy
> Bowl Swirl (tm)...

Hey look, I have no sympathy for the Costco cow and the McNuggets nut,
but I am full to the brim with understanding for the flight attendant.
I've been a nurse for three decades, an occupation that is treated more
and more by the public and employers alike as a servant class rather
than educated professionals with specialized skills. We are treated like
waiters and waitresses every day we work by the people we work for and
the people we are there to take care of, valued as warm bodies that take
orders and not for our reasoning brains and adeptness with skills that
can save your life. Patients and their families yell at us, swear at us,
threaten to have us fired, hit us, spit at us, make ridiculous demands
of our ever-decreasing time and resources, insult and demean us every
time we show up for work. Verbal and physical abuses that used to be the
privilege of psych patients are now hurled at us by otherwise functional
and rational patients who are highly unrealistic and intolerant of not
getting what they want when they want it, and our employers, under the
new and improved "customer service" approach to health care delivery,
stoke and stroke and feed and encourage these shitty behaviors in a
schizophrenic *******ization of the-customer-is-always-right philosophy
to the detriment of workplace functionality. I understand what this guy
has been seeing and hearing for the last twenty years. In the last two
days, I've heard more people say that they wish they could grab a beer
and take a slide out of their crappy work environment AND chew the
stupid ****ing patients and their stupid ****ing families and stupid
****ing visitors out before they go too. It would seem that any idiot
would know better than to behave the way these people do, but the Victim
Mentality in conjunction with the Entitlement Mentality have hold of
them and make them insufferable at a time when they need to shut their
****ing traps, do what they're told, show more gratitude and at least
say "thank you" once or twice instead of a constant litany of "gimme,"
"you have to," "I pay the bill so I can have anything I want," "if you
don't, I'll _________ (fill in the blank with stupid threat)," "so the
sign says we can't smoke in the rooms. Who's going to stop me, a sign?",
etc., etc., etc. There are good patients, to be sure. But the patients
who fill their and our time with their tantrums, noncompliance, abuse,
petty complaints, following us into other patients' rooms to hog our
attention, calling us out of other patients' rooms to hog our attention,
calling us at the nurses station from the phones in their rooms or their
cell phones to hog our attention, having their families make endless
phone calls to us for information, playing staff against each other,
playing managers against each other and, yes, even playing patients
against each other can be a total waste of time and breath.

On 8/12/2010 12:07 AM, zxcvbob wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> The Austin Police Department can't shoot back at anyone without getting
>>> sued. Shit, they even bowed down and shot a dog yesterday, and all hell
>>> still broke loose.
>>>
>> All hell breaks loose when police shoot dogs here, too. There was a
>> case about a year or two ago where the house of a mayor of a nearby
>> city was raided and the elderly mother and wife were bound by the
>> police and the dogs shot all because of a shipment of drugs not meant
>> for them.
>>
>>
>
>
> I remember that case, in Berwyn Heights, MD. The mayor's name was Calvo.
> The police knew the drugs were not intended for Calvo, *because they
> planted them* on the porch. They went apeshit when someone inside the
> house saw them lurking outside and "blew their cover". One of the dogs
> they shot was running away and they followed it into the other room so
> they could shoot it.
>
> The police deny any wrongdoing, have only conditionally cleared Calvo,
> and as far as I know have refused to settle and a lawsuit is still pending.
>
> If someone as politically-connected as a mayor still hasn't gotten
> satisfaction after 2 years, what chance to any of us peons have?

And this is the government that expects us trust it to take care of us.

Pennyaline wrote:
>
> On 8/11/2010 11:03, Pete C. wrote:
> >
> > The human psyche is particularly susceptible to "victim mentality" and
> > we are seeing that more and more. It's all part of the Great Global Tidy
> > Bowl Swirl (tm)...
>
> Hey look, I have no sympathy for the Costco cow and the McNuggets nut,
> but I am full to the brim with understanding for the flight attendant.
> I've been a nurse for three decades, an occupation that is treated more
> and more by the public and employers alike as a servant class rather
> than educated professionals with specialized skills.

You need to wake up to the fact that "professional" or not, you work in
a *service* industry and your job is to provide service to your
customers. Doctors are no different.

> We are treated like
> waiters and waitresses every day we work by the people we work for and
> the people we are there to take care of, valued as warm bodies that take
> orders and not for our reasoning brains and adeptness with skills that
> can save your life. Patients and their families yell at us, swear at us,
> threaten to have us fired, hit us, spit at us, make ridiculous demands
> of our ever-decreasing time and resources, insult and demean us every
> time we show up for work. Verbal and physical abuses that used to be the
> privilege of psych patients are now hurled at us by otherwise functional
> and rational patients who are highly unrealistic and intolerant of not
> getting what they want when they want it, and our employers, under the
> new and improved "customer service" approach to health care delivery,
> stoke and stroke and feed and encourage these shitty behaviors in a
> schizophrenic *******ization of the-customer-is-always-right philosophy
> to the detriment of workplace functionality.

Like it or not, your customers are the ones who give the orders, and if
you don't follow them those customers have every right to fire you and
take their business elsewhere.

> I understand what this guy
> has been seeing and hearing for the last twenty years. In the last two
> days, I've heard more people say that they wish they could grab a beer
> and take a slide out of their crappy work environment AND chew the
> stupid ****ing patients and their stupid ****ing families and stupid
> ****ing visitors out before they go too. It would seem that any idiot
> would know better than to behave the way these people do, but the Victim
> Mentality in conjunction with the Entitlement Mentality have hold of
> them and make them insufferable at a time when they need to shut their
> ****ing traps, do what they're told, show more gratitude and at least
> say "thank you" once or twice instead of a constant litany of "gimme,"
> "you have to," "I pay the bill so I can have anything I want," "if you
> don't, I'll _________ (fill in the blank with stupid threat)," "so the
> sign says we can't smoke in the rooms. Who's going to stop me, a sign?",
> etc., etc., etc.

It has nothing to do with victim mentality or entitlement mentality. If
the customer is not getting acceptable service, they have every right to
fire you and take their business elsewhere. It is *your* entitlement
mentality that makes *you* think that somehow your service industry is
different from every other one and *you* somehow have a right to tell
the customer what to do. That's like walking into McDonald's, ordering a
Big Mac and having the droid at the register tell you your getting
McNugets instead, you have every right to tell them off and take your
business elsewhere. Get over your ego, you are a service worker just
like most everyone else.

> There are good patients, to be sure. But the patients
> who fill their and our time with their tantrums, noncompliance

It's not "noncompliance", it's "noncomplacence" and it saves lives that
would otherwise be lost to your screw ups. I have personal experience
with this and *I* would be dead if I was complacent and didn't trust my
instincts and tell an idiot doctor NO. I have at least one relative who
*is* dead due to blindly following a negligent doctor.

> , abuse,
> petty complaints, following us into other patients' rooms to hog our
> attention, calling us out of other patients' rooms to hog our attention,
> calling us at the nurses station from the phones in their rooms or their
> cell phones to hog our attention, having their families make endless
> phone calls to us for information, playing staff against each other,
> playing managers against each other and, yes, even playing patients
> against each other can be a total waste of time and breath.

Your time is not worth as much as your ego thinks it is.