On 8/21/2010 7:22 AM, George wrote:
> On 8/20/2010 10:14 PM, brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:04:49 GMT, > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-08-21, Ema > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is just like landscape design or hairstyling.......
>>>
>>> On what planet can you get a hairstyling license without schooling?
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> In the US one can get a cosmotologist/hairdresser license by being
>> sponsored by a shop owner, passing a simple test, and paying the fee.
>
>
> But that is completely incorrect as usual. A good friend and a relative
> own businesses that hire licensed staff. Both extensive training and an
> extensive exam are the norm. Here are the requirements in PA just to be
> able to take the comprehensive exam:
>
>
> § 7.32d. Requirements for cosmetologist examination.
>
> (a) An applicant for the cosmetologist examination who holds no limited
> licenses shall:
>
> (1) Be 16 years of age or older.
>
> (2) Except as provided in subsection (b), have done one of the following:
>
> (i) Completed a 10th grade education or its equivalent.
>
> (ii) Received training from or under the auspices of the Office of
> Vocational Rehabilitation in the Department of Labor and Industry.
>
> (3) Have done one of the following:
>
> (i) Completed a minimum of 1,250 hours of instruction in cosmetology,
> within a period of not less than 8 consecutive months, as a day-time
> student in a licensed school of cosmetology.
>
> (ii) Completed a minimum of 1,250 hours of instruction in cosmetology,
> within a period of not less than 15 consecutive months, as a night-time
> student in a licensed school of cosmetology.
>
> (iii) Completed 2,000 hours of training in a Board-approved cosmetology
> apprentice program.

You have to remember that these things vary by state. Wasn't too long
ago that in one state one could become a lawyer by deciding one day "I
want to be a lawyer", walking in off the street the day of the bar exam,
and passing the exam.

>> It's more difficult to get a motor vehical operator's license. It's a
>> lot more difficult to obtain a barber's license... nowadays there are
>> very few licensed barbers. Unfortunately one doesn't need any kind of
>> documentation to prepare food commercially... most people who prepare
>> our food are illiterate... the business owners are educated and need
>> permits but the food workers don't need to be able to read and write
>> and most cannot. The typical cook's job is extremely repetative, it's
>> best that they are not educated.
>>
>>
>

On 8/21/2010 10:58 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On 8/21/2010 7:22 AM, George wrote:
>> On 8/20/2010 10:14 PM, brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:04:49 GMT, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-08-21, Ema > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is just like landscape design or hairstyling.......
>>>>
>>>> On what planet can you get a hairstyling license without schooling?
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> In the US one can get a cosmotologist/hairdresser license by being
>>> sponsored by a shop owner, passing a simple test, and paying the fee.
>>
>>
>> But that is completely incorrect as usual. A good friend and a relative
>> own businesses that hire licensed staff. Both extensive training and an
>> extensive exam are the norm. Here are the requirements in PA just to be
>> able to take the comprehensive exam:
>>
>>
>> § 7.32d. Requirements for cosmetologist examination.
>>
>> (a) An applicant for the cosmetologist examination who holds no limited
>> licenses shall:
>>
>> (1) Be 16 years of age or older.
>>
>> (2) Except as provided in subsection (b), have done one of the following:
>>
>> (i) Completed a 10th grade education or its equivalent.
>>
>> (ii) Received training from or under the auspices of the Office of
>> Vocational Rehabilitation in the Department of Labor and Industry.
>>
>> (3) Have done one of the following:
>>
>> (i) Completed a minimum of 1,250 hours of instruction in cosmetology,
>> within a period of not less than 8 consecutive months, as a day-time
>> student in a licensed school of cosmetology.
>>
>> (ii) Completed a minimum of 1,250 hours of instruction in cosmetology,
>> within a period of not less than 15 consecutive months, as a night-time
>> student in a licensed school of cosmetology.
>>
>> (iii) Completed 2,000 hours of training in a Board-approved cosmetology
>> apprentice program.
>
> You have to remember that these things vary by state. Wasn't too long
> ago that in one state one could become a lawyer by deciding one day "I
> want to be a lawyer", walking in off the street the day of the bar exam,
> and passing the exam.
>

Sure but the declaration was "in the US" and was in the present tense.

I think what you described about just walking in and taking any sort of
test such as the bar exam went away some time ago.

>>> It's more difficult to get a motor vehical operator's license. It's a
>>> lot more difficult to obtain a barber's license... nowadays there are
>>> very few licensed barbers. Unfortunately one doesn't need any kind of
>>> documentation to prepare food commercially... most people who prepare
>>> our food are illiterate... the business owners are educated and need
>>> permits but the food workers don't need to be able to read and write
>>> and most cannot. The typical cook's job is extremely repetative, it's
>>> best that they are not educated.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:58:28 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

> On 8/21/2010 7:22 AM, George wrote:
>>
>> But that is completely incorrect as usual. A good friend and a relative
>> own businesses that hire licensed staff. Both extensive training and an
>> extensive exam are the norm. Here are the requirements in PA just to be
>> able to take the comprehensive exam:
>>
>>
>> § 7.32d. Requirements for cosmetologist examination.

<snip>
>
> You have to remember that these things vary by state. Wasn't too long
> ago that in one state one could become a lawyer by deciding one day "I
> want to be a lawyer", walking in off the street the day of the bar exam,
> and passing the exam.

that's said to be abe lincoln's path to becoming a lawyer:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Early_career_and_military_service>

'reading the law' and then taking the bar exam used to be quite common.
judging from some of the numbskulls emerging from law schools today, i'm
not so sure it was a bad system.

your pal,
blake