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I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) I'll take the ribbon, it's my only chance of getting one! nancy |
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On Sep 26, 12:19*pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) Thus far, I'm with the majority, who do have sponges, and use various methods to clean them. I use mine regularly to wipe up spills, with bleach to clean the (white) counters, and periodically it goes in the dishwasher when it's been wiping up after raw meat or fish. Knock wood, noone has ever gotten sick after eating in my house, so whatever I'm doing must be working. maxine in ri |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> ChattyCathy wrote: >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >> I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) > > I'll take the ribbon, it's my only chance of getting one! <laugh> Consider it yours. -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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On 09/26/2010 10:00 AM, maxine in ri wrote:
> On Sep 26, 12:19 pm, > wrote: >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >> I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) > > Thus far, I'm with the majority, who do have sponges, and use various > methods to clean them. > > I use mine regularly to wipe up spills, with bleach to clean the > (white) counters, and periodically it goes in the dishwasher when it's > been wiping up after raw meat or fish. > > Knock wood, noone has ever gotten sick after eating in my house, so > whatever I'm doing must be working. I wash them out after using them, but I also throw them away really frequently. James laughs at me for this, but it's just a thing with me. I probably put out a new sponge more often than once a week, and if a sponge is left sitting with dirty dishes overnight, it gets tossed. Now, I *know* that after a dish is cleaned with even the germiest sponge, it's then RINSED under HOT WATER in my house, so this is a silly compulsion, but it's my compulsion, and that's that. Serene -- http://www.momfoodproject.com New post: Weekend Cooking: Pandora’s Salted Angel’s Cake |
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Serene Vannoy wrote:
> > I wash them out after using them, but I also throw them away really > frequently. James laughs at me for this, but it's just a thing with > me. I probably put out a new sponge more often than once a week, and > if a sponge is left sitting with dirty dishes overnight, it gets > tossed. > > Now, I *know* that after a dish is cleaned with even the germiest > sponge, it's then RINSED under HOT WATER in my house, so this is a > silly compulsion, but it's my compulsion, and that's that. Not silly at all, IMHO. Heck, they're cheap enough, even where I live ;-) -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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maxine wrote on Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT):
> On Sep 26, 12:19 pm, ChattyCathy > wrote: >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >> I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) > Thus far, I'm with the majority, who do have sponges, and use > various methods to clean them. > I use mine regularly to wipe up spills, with bleach to clean > the (white) counters, and periodically it goes in the > dishwasher when it's been wiping up after raw meat or fish. > Knock wood, noone has ever gotten sick after eating in my > house, so whatever I'm doing must be working. I'm with the majority in having sponges but I am surprised that so few use the covered compartment in the dish washer cutlery basket to clean them. I'll have to admit that I don't wash the sponges as often as the dishes. Squeezing them out and letting them dry on the edge of the sink seems enough. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On 09/26/2010 12:43 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> I'm with the majority in having sponges but I am surprised that so few > use the covered compartment in the dish washer cutlery basket to clean > them. I would, but I don't have a dishwasher. Serene -- http://www.momfoodproject.com New post: Weekend Cooking: Pandora’s Sweet Angel’s Cake |
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:06:35 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote: >Nancy Young wrote: > >> ChattyCathy wrote: >>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >>> >>> I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) >> >> I'll take the ribbon, it's my only chance of getting one! > ><laugh> Consider it yours. Should have knitted a Sponge Bob Square Pants hat for this one. <g> http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=281528.0 |
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"James Silverton" > wrote in message
... > I'm with the majority in having sponges but I am surprised that so few use > the covered compartment in the dish washer cutlery basket to clean them. What covered compartment? Jill |
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:06:35 +0200, ChattyCathy > > wrote: > >> Nancy Young wrote: >> >>> ChattyCathy wrote: >>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >>>> >>>> I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) >>> >>> I'll take the ribbon, it's my only chance of getting one! >> >> <laugh> Consider it yours. > > Should have knitted a Sponge Bob Square Pants hat for this one. <g> > http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=281528.0 (laugh) Appropriate. Now how about Bikini Bottom? nancy |
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:40:32 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote: > "James Silverton" > wrote in message > ... > > I'm with the majority in having sponges but I am surprised that so few use > > the covered compartment in the dish washer cutlery basket to clean them. > > What covered compartment? > and why would a sponge need to be held down by a lid? I throw mine on the top rack and it doesn't move around. -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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jmcquown wrote on Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:40:32 -0400:
> "James Silverton" > wrote in > message ... >> I'm with the majority in having sponges but I am surprised >> that so few use the covered compartment in the dish washer >> cutlery basket to clean them. > What covered compartment? I guess not all dishwasher baskets must have them. AFAIR, my dishwashers have always had a compartment with a cover to prevent small items from floating away. A sponge that took off and sat on the heater could make a real mess. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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maxine in ri > wrote in message
... On Sep 26, 12:19 pm, ChattyCathy > wrote: > > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >> > Thus far, I'm with the majority, who do have sponges, and > use various methods to clean them. We are very similar-minded at Clan Ranger; we use sponges regularly and, depending on the need, methods vary accordingly. > I use mine regularly to wipe up spills, with bleach to clean the > (white) counters, and periodically it goes in the dishwasher when it's > been wiping up after raw meat or fish. We also nuke our sponges. The first time you take it out fresh from the MW, you're more careful after that. ![]() > Knock wood, noone has ever gotten sick after eating in my house, so > whatever I'm doing must be working. We're more Libertarian at Clan Ranger. If we like you, we take extra care to bring you back. If, OTOH, we don't think you are worth the effort... The Ranger |
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"James Silverton" > wrote in message
... > jmcquown wrote on Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:40:32 -0400: > >> "James Silverton" > wrote in >> message ... >>> I'm with the majority in having sponges but I am surprised >>> that so few use the covered compartment in the dish washer >>> cutlery basket to clean them. > >> What covered compartment? > > I guess not all dishwasher baskets must have them. AFAIR, my dishwashers > have always had a compartment with a cover to prevent small items from > floating away. A sponge that took off and sat on the heater could make a > real mess. > > -- > > James Silverton > Potomac, Maryland > Sorry, I've never seen a dishwasher that had a covered compartment. The current one has wine racks - something to hold the stems so the glasses don't break. No covered compartments for the cutlerly or to prevent sponges from floating ![]() Jill |
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I soak mine in bleach water...
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 23:55:47 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote: > Mine is a Kenmore, too. It doesn't have a covered anything. It's also > stainless steel which I dislike. Were I to redecorate the kitchen I > wouldn't choose stainless. If you dislike stainless steel that much, ask Sears about a replacement front. It's not impossible to do. You pop out one panel and put in another. FYI, I found out recently that silicone spray is the perfect ss "polish"... water and fingerprints don't adhere when you use it. I learned that from the people who maintain the interstate rest stops at the Bonneville Salt Flats. I haven't put theory into practice yet although that's what they said they use (showed me a can) and their rest stops look great. -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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"sf" > wrote in message
... > On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 23:55:47 -0400, "jmcquown" > > wrote: > >> Mine is a Kenmore, too. It doesn't have a covered anything. It's also >> stainless steel which I dislike. Were I to redecorate the kitchen I >> wouldn't choose stainless. > > If you dislike stainless steel that much, ask Sears about a > replacement front. It's not impossible to do. You pop out one panel > and put in another. > > FYI, I found out recently that silicone spray is the perfect ss > "polish"... water and fingerprints don't adhere when you use it. I > learned that from the people who maintain the interstate rest stops at > the Bonneville Salt Flats. I haven't put theory into practice yet > although that's what they said they use (showed me a can) and their > rest stops look great. > > -- I never said I disliked it so much as to pay to change the front panel. (There isn't a Sears within 50 miles.) I'm not doing a kitchen remodel, but if I did I wouldn't choose stainless appliances. I also don't want granite countertops. Seems like everyone on HGTV wants stainless steel and granite. Sorry, but that's not for me. I use Bartenders Friend to clean my stainless Revere cookware ![]() Jill |
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The Ranger wrote:
> > We also nuke our sponges. The first time you take it out fresh from > the MW, you're more careful after that. ![]() I'm quite intrigued by this nuke 'em thing. They're well, imitation sponge and (I assume) are made from some sort of plastic-y stuff - and I always thought killing bacterial lifeforms needed more time (at boiling point of water) than would be good for the sponge. In fact, I thought they would 'melt' before they were sufficiently sanitized. Guess I was wrong <laugh> -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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![]() "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message ... > The Ranger wrote: > >> >> We also nuke our sponges. The first time you take it out fresh from >> the MW, you're more careful after that. ![]() > > I'm quite intrigued by this nuke 'em thing. They're well, imitation > sponge and (I assume) are made from some sort of plastic-y stuff - and > I always thought killing bacterial lifeforms needed more time (at > boiling point of water) than would be good for the sponge. In fact, I > thought they would 'melt' before they were sufficiently sanitized. > Guess I was wrong <laugh> Well if you are wrong.. then so am I! In fact I assumed they would catch fire once dry. I am interested in the facts about this. -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:59:53 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:
> The Ranger wrote: > > >> We also nuke our sponges. The first time you take it out fresh from the >> MW, you're more careful after that. ![]() > > I'm quite intrigued by this nuke 'em thing. They're well, imitation > sponge and (I assume) are made from some sort of plastic-y stuff - and I > always thought killing bacterial lifeforms needed more time (at boiling > point of water) than would be good for the sponge. In fact, I thought > they would 'melt' before they were sufficiently sanitized. Guess I was > wrong <laugh> Might this have something to do with the 'No Foreign Objects in my Microwave' rule? If that rule can be waived for sponges, I've got a couple of other interesting objects in need of pasteurizing (couple of seconds you can't call sterilizing, but pasteurizing can be done in 0.1 second or so at 212F) -j |
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:43:40 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
> maxine wrote on Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT): > >> On Sep 26, 12:19 pm, ChattyCathy > wrote: >>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >>> >>> I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) > >> Thus far, I'm with the majority, who do have sponges, and use >> various methods to clean them. > >> I use mine regularly to wipe up spills, with bleach to clean >> the (white) counters, and periodically it goes in the >> dishwasher when it's been wiping up after raw meat or fish. > >> Knock wood, noone has ever gotten sick after eating in my >> house, so whatever I'm doing must be working. > > I'm with the majority in having sponges but I am surprised that so few > use the covered compartment in the dish washer cutlery basket to clean > them. I'll have to admit that I don't wash the sponges as often as the > dishes. Squeezing them out and letting them dry on the edge of the sink > seems enough. this is the second time someone referred to a 'covered compartment' in the silverware tray, but i've never seen one. your pal, blake |
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jack wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:59:53 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote: > >> The Ranger wrote: >> >> >>> We also nuke our sponges. The first time you take it out fresh from >>> the MW, you're more careful after that. ![]() >> >> I'm quite intrigued by this nuke 'em thing. They're well, imitation >> sponge and (I assume) are made from some sort of plastic-y stuff - >> and I always thought killing bacterial lifeforms needed more time (at >> boiling point of water) than would be good for the sponge. In fact, I >> thought they would 'melt' before they were sufficiently sanitized. >> Guess I was wrong <laugh> > > Might this have something to do with the 'No Foreign Objects in my > Microwave' rule? Yes > If that rule can be waived for sponges, I've got a > couple of other interesting objects in need of pasteurizing (couple of > seconds you can't call sterilizing, but pasteurizing can be done in > 0.1 second or so at 212F) No -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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blake murphy wrote:
> this is the second time someone referred to a 'covered compartment' > in the silverware tray, but i've never seen one. It's a flap over the silverware part, you can leave it up or put it down. If you put it down, it has slots for you to put your forks and spoons. If you're squeamish about dirty dishes, don't click on this!! http://tinypic.com/r/14ukx8j/7 nancy |
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:34:08 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote: > this is the second time someone referred to a 'covered compartment' in the > silverware tray, but i've never seen one. I have, but they were something you'd buy separately to use in the dishwasher. I've seen them in the "baby department" and they were meant for bottle nipples, binkies... light stuff like that. There's no need to lock in a sponge, it doesn't bounce around - especially after it's water laden. -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:09:15 -0400, "Nancy Young"
> wrote: > blake murphy wrote: > > > this is the second time someone referred to a 'covered compartment' > > in the silverware tray, but i've never seen one. > > It's a flap over the silverware part, you can leave it up or put > it down. If you put it down, it has slots for you to put your > forks and spoons. If you're squeamish about dirty dishes, > don't click on this!! > > http://tinypic.com/r/14ukx8j/7 > I see now that it's to help keep flatware pieces separated. I was thinking in the old fashioned terms of keeping light items in the basket. -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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![]() "Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... > blake murphy wrote: > >> this is the second time someone referred to a 'covered compartment' >> in the silverware tray, but i've never seen one. > > It's a flap over the silverware part, you can leave it up or put > it down. If you put it down, it has slots for you to put your > forks and spoons. If you're squeamish about dirty dishes, > don't click on this!! > > http://tinypic.com/r/14ukx8j/7 Yes! Just like mine ![]() -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:19:11 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > Well if you are wrong.. then so am I! In fact I assumed they would catch > fire once dry. I am interested in the facts about > this. I didn't think that they would melt, but like CC, I thought they'd need more time in boiling water to be sanitized. In any case, I don't expect a sponge to be sanitary *ever* so I don't use one to wash my dishes. I use a dish brush to get the crud off and put them into the dishwasher after that. -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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sf wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:09:15 -0400, "Nancy Young" > > wrote: > >> blake murphy wrote: >> >>> this is the second time someone referred to a 'covered compartment' >>> in the silverware tray, but i've never seen one. >> >> It's a flap over the silverware part, you can leave it up or put >> it down. If you put it down, it has slots for you to put your >> forks and spoons. If you're squeamish about dirty dishes, >> don't click on this!! >> >> http://tinypic.com/r/14ukx8j/7 >> > I see now that it's to help keep flatware pieces separated. I was > thinking in the old fashioned terms of keeping light items in the > basket. I have put things in there for that purpose. nancy |
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:59:53 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote: >The Ranger wrote: > >> >> We also nuke our sponges. The first time you take it out fresh from >> the MW, you're more careful after that. ![]() > >I'm quite intrigued by this nuke 'em thing. They're well, imitation >sponge and (I assume) are made from some sort of plastic-y stuff - and >I always thought killing bacterial lifeforms needed more time (at >boiling point of water) than would be good for the sponge. In fact, I >thought they would 'melt' before they were sufficiently sanitized. >Guess I was wrong <laugh> Typical household sponges are made of cellulose... they won't last long exposed to harsh chemicals, most especially caustics like bleach and dishwasher compounds, and they don't fare well exposed to high temperatures, ie. boiling, and they don't survive laundry detrergent. The best way to sanitize a cellulose sponge is to wash it well with soap and water, rinse, squeeze out excess, and hang outdoors on a sunny day... UV is one of the best sanitizers... also a great way to sanitize wooden cutting boards... and so far sunlight is free. There are also UV wands that can be used to effectively sanitize kitchen counters... all my well water is UV sanitized, so is the air in my house. Why do you think solar research is practically at a standstill... pure politics... could have done away with fossil fuel 50 years ago, yoose really think there are no more like Edison, Bell, Marconi, Tesla, etal.? The billions BP used to clean an oil spill would have funded solar research to free us from fossil fuels... pure science is the most underfunded commodity on the planet... war costs much more and accomplishes nothing. |
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Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:59:53 +0200, ChattyCathy > > wrote: > >>The Ranger wrote: >> >>> >>> We also nuke our sponges. The first time you take it out fresh from >>> the MW, you're more careful after that. ![]() >> >>I'm quite intrigued by this nuke 'em thing. They're well, imitation >>sponge and (I assume) are made from some sort of plastic-y stuff - and >>I always thought killing bacterial lifeforms needed more time (at >>boiling point of water) than would be good for the sponge. In fact, I >>thought they would 'melt' before they were sufficiently sanitized. >>Guess I was wrong <laugh> > > Typical household sponges are made of cellulose... Not the ones I use (that's why I said 'imitation sponge'). I buy these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Urethane_sponge1.jpg And there are also 'anti-bacterial' ones available here now <g> -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
... > > I never said I disliked it so much as to pay to change the front panel. > (There isn't a Sears within 50 miles.) I'm not doing a kitchen remodel, > but if I did I wouldn't choose stainless appliances. I also don't want > granite countertops. Seems like everyone on HGTV wants stainless steel > and granite. Sorry, but that's not for me. And my taste leans toward stainless for everything in the kitchen. I've never had stainless big appliances, so maybe over time it would be a pain to keep looking nice, but I don't have that experience yet. Maybe I should research more. I've been replacing all of my small appliances with SS as they break down. I had planned to replace my dishwasher and range with SS in that order. Then the fridge, but that's much newer than the rest of the appliances so I might have to have an oddball for a while. |
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On 2010-09-27, Cheryl > wrote:
> And my taste leans toward stainless for everything in the kitchen. Enamel is so much easier to clean and maintain. nb |
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"notbob" > wrote in message
... > On 2010-09-27, Cheryl > wrote: > >> And my taste leans toward stainless for everything in the kitchen. > > Enamel is so much easier to clean and maintain. > > nb > Exactly. I'd rather have enamel appliances. I really don't understand the entire fascination with stainless steel. It's not stainless at all. Jill |
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On Sep 27, 8:30*pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message > > ... > > > On 2010-09-27, Cheryl > wrote: > > >> And my taste leans toward stainless for everything in the kitchen. > > > Enamel is so much easier to clean and maintain. > > > nb > > Exactly. *I'd rather have enamel appliances. *I really don't understand the > entire fascination with stainless steel. *It's not stainless at all. > > Jill in fact, quite the opposite. I find it to look cold and uninviting. It's industrial, not homey. Don't like it at all. I hate those people on HGTV! I find myself watching "Property Virgins" frequently... it's one of those programs I love to hate. Whenever one of those home- buying couples says "Ut-oh, we'll have to replace those counters with granite... and those appliances are kind of dated" I want to throw something at them (until I realize they aren't actually in my living room and I would have to pay to replace the tv if it broke). I think I might like granite if I baked a lot of bread and pastry, which I don't. Again, I find it cold and uninviting. I have a feeling most people think they want it because they've been told they should want it, but it's my belief that most of those people on HGTV don't know any better. If they actually thought about it... they wouldn't like it. I laugh when I see those gel mats for sale in places like Bed Bath and Beyond. Linoleum over wood flooring was put into home kitchens because it's more comfortable to stand on and walk on for hours while working in a kitchen than the type of industrial tile flooring you find in restaurant kitchens. If people would stop building "trophy" kitchens, and build kitchens that are designed to be lived in, rather than looked at, they wouldn't need gel-mats for the floors. Give me a 1950's retro kitchen, with metal enameled cabinets (Pink, turquoise or cherry red!) and matching appliances, trimmed in chrome, Formica counter tops and a shiny linoleum speckled floor, and I'd be a very happy camper. |
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:30:36 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote: >"notbob" > wrote in message ... >> On 2010-09-27, Cheryl > wrote: >> >>> And my taste leans toward stainless for everything in the kitchen. >> >> Enamel is so much easier to clean and maintain. >> >> nb > >> >Exactly. I'd rather have enamel appliances. I really don't understand the >entire fascination with stainless steel. It's not stainless at all. Stainless has the commercial/institutional look, Allows folks to convince themslves and present themselves they're professional cooks... however 90% of the time they eat out or do take out and the othe r 10% at home they do microwave... kinda like how some folks buy a baby grand to decorate their parlor although they have a tin ear and can't play a note. |
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![]() "Cheryl" > ha scritto nel messaggio > And my taste leans toward stainless for everything in the kitchen. I've > never had stainless big appliances, so maybe over time it would be a pain > to keep looking nice, but I don't have that experience yet. I do have that experience and find it no burden. You work, things get dirty, you clean them. It's no harder to clean them in SS and maybe a bit easier in some cases. People sometimes talk of fingerprints, but a swipe with anything removes those unless they are dirty. If they are dirty I want to know theyìre there and clean them. Not just for SS but for lots of surfaces I use a Villeda cloth that resembles chamois but is made of microfiber. It cleans most everything. Glass use a moist one followed by a dry one... no chemicals required. Scrub the stove with a soapy cloth, wipe, then swipe with the chamois and SS gleams. Even the inside of the DW is SS. |
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![]() "J. Clarke" > ha scritto nel messaggio > You don't want stainless appliances for the same reason that most > surviving DeLoreans have been painted. Large stainless steel surfaces > are perfect showcases for dirt, and your options for cleaning are > limited because just about anything that's at all abrasive will leave > visible marks. > I never drive my refrigerator except in the finest weather. It's clean. |
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![]() "maxine in ri" > wrote in message ... On Sep 26, 12:19 pm, ChattyCathy > wrote: > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > I'm going to blame Dimitri and Kalmia for this one ;-) Thus far, I'm with the majority, who do have sponges, and use various methods to clean them. I use mine regularly to wipe up spills, with bleach to clean the (white) counters, and periodically it goes in the dishwasher when it's been wiping up after raw meat or fish. Knock wood, noone has ever gotten sick after eating in my house, so whatever I'm doing must be working. maxine in ri I only use mine to wash the dishes. I buy them at the dollar store in pkgs of four. They have a woven/crocheted covering and I toss them after they start to wear. I rinse them out in the dish water after each use.....Sharon in Canada |
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