"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
> An advert is running locally complaining about proposed taxes on junk
> food. All well and good; it's probably sponsored by the companies who
> make soft drinks/sports drinks/flavoured waters.
>
> Unfortunately it starts with a woman whining that it's hard enough to
> feed a family these days. Of course it is. However, buying
> sugary-artificially-flavoured-coloured drinks must cost her hard-driven
> family quite a lot of money. If her food budget is that tight, wouldn't
> it make more sense *not* to buy those things, taxed or otherwise?



This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I recieved
food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the cookies, chips
and junk food you could ever want... but if the grocery store had a soup and
salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto things like rotisserie chickens
prepared at the store. For about $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a
family of four for three days. And with careful planning could turn into
chicken soup I'll never understand the restrictions.

Jill

On 05/10/2010 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I recieved
> food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the cookies, chips
> and junk food you could ever want... but if the grocery store had a soup
> and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto things like rotisserie
> chickens prepared at the store. For about $4.99, one of those chickens
> could feed a family of four for three days. And with careful planning
> could turn into chicken soup I'll never understand the restrictions.

I can understand the soup and salad bar, since the stamps (I thought)
are supposed to help pay for groceries, and a salad bar is a pretty
expensive way to eat salad (around here anyway). Rotisserie chicken,
OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. It usually doesn't cost much more
for a cooked chicken than for a raw one. I bought one about a month ago
when I was shopping in a family owned grocery that usually has excellent
deals on chicken. I had already picked up several small chickens,
breasts and legs, and then happened to spot a rotisserie chicken for
IIRC $5.14.. Hell. That was dinner for that night.

I keep telling my son that he should be picking up rotisserie chickens.
Until he moved last week he didn't have great cooking facilities. He
could pick up a chicken on his way home and get 3 or 4 meals out of it.
Those things are great hot or cold.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 05/10/2010 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I
>> recieved food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the
>> cookies, chips and junk food you could ever want... but if the
>> grocery store had a soup and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto
>> things like rotisserie chickens prepared at the store. For about
>> $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a family of four for three
>> days. And with careful planning could turn into chicken soup I'll
>> never understand the restrictions.

> Rotisserie chicken,
> OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. It usually doesn't cost much
> more for a cooked chicken than for a raw one.

You'd think because if someone is on food stamps, it's not
out of the question they might be lacking in decent cooking
appliances, too. I think a rotisserie chicken would be ideal.

> I keep telling my son that he should be picking up rotisserie
> chickens. Until he moved last week he didn't have great cooking
> facilities. He could pick up a chicken on his way home and get 3 or 4
> meals out of it. Those things are great hot or cold.

Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you have
a good source nearby. It was a handy dinner back when I was
working.

nancy

jmcquown wrote:
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
>> An advert is running locally complaining about proposed taxes on junk
>> food. All well and good; it's probably sponsored by the companies who
>> make soft drinks/sports drinks/flavoured waters.
>>
>> Unfortunately it starts with a woman whining that it's hard enough to
>> feed a family these days. Of course it is. However, buying
>> sugary-artificially-flavoured-coloured drinks must cost her hard-driven
>> family quite a lot of money. If her food budget is that tight, wouldn't
>> it make more sense *not* to buy those things, taxed or otherwise?
>
>
>
> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I
> recieved food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the
> cookies, chips and junk food you could ever want... but if the grocery
> store had a soup and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto things
> like rotisserie chickens prepared at the store. For about $4.99, one
> of those chickens could feed a family of four for three days. And
> with careful planning could turn into chicken soup I'll never
> understand the restrictions.
>
> Jill
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you denied receiving food stamps
about the same time you said you didn't drink much.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 19:00:21 -0400, "Nancy Young"
> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 05/10/2010 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I
>>> recieved food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the
>>> cookies, chips and junk food you could ever want... but if the
>>> grocery store had a soup and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto
>>> things like rotisserie chickens prepared at the store. For about
>>> $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a family of four for three
>>> days. And with careful planning could turn into chicken soup I'll
>>> never understand the restrictions.
>
>> Rotisserie chicken,
>> OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. It usually doesn't cost much
>> more for a cooked chicken than for a raw one.
>
>You'd think because if someone is on food stamps, it's not
>out of the question they might be lacking in decent cooking
>appliances, too. I think a rotisserie chicken would be ideal.
>
>> I keep telling my son that he should be picking up rotisserie
>> chickens. Until he moved last week he didn't have great cooking
>> facilities. He could pick up a chicken on his way home and get 3 or 4
>> meals out of it. Those things are great hot or cold.
>
>Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you have
>a good source nearby. It was a handy dinner back when I was
>working.

I don't buy those chickens very often, maybe a dozen during my
lifetime, however every one was overly salty... they're heavily
salted/seasoned because they're the birds that their sell-by date
passed. And they are no real bargain except in prep time. A 3lb raw
weight rotisseried fryer costs $5 on sale, those scrawny birds are not
nearly enough to feed two hungry adults or one hungry teenager.
Rotisseried chicken from the deli serves a purpose when one is out of
time and didn't plan well at home. I know they are not primo when my
cats won't eat any.

On Oct 5, 5:47*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > An advert is running locally complaining about proposed taxes on junk
> > food. All well and good; it's probably sponsored by the companies who
> > make soft drinks/sports drinks/flavoured waters.
>
> > Unfortunately it starts with a woman whining that it's hard enough to
> > feed a family these days. Of course it is. However, buying
> > sugary-artificially-flavoured-coloured drinks must cost her hard-driven
> > family quite a lot of money. If her food budget is that tight, wouldn't
> > it make more sense *not* to buy those things, taxed or otherwise?
>
> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I recieved
> food stamps. *The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the cookies, chips
> and junk food you could ever want... but if the grocery store had a soup and
> salad bar NO! *Won't pay for that! *Ditto things like rotisserie chickens
> prepared at the store. *For about $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a
> family of four for three days. *And with careful planning could turn into
> chicken soup *I'll never understand the restrictions.
>

I agree that it makes no sense to allow pop, candy, and chips.

The salad bar and hot chicken are not allowed because they are
considered luxery items like a restaurant. Oddly, we are allowed to
sell the same chicken on food stamps once it is put out as cold. But
we are breaking the law if we sell the hot one on food stamps or heat
a cold one that was sold on food stamps.

Personally, I would rather see a restriction based on price per pound.
That way, meats at a good price would be okay, but really expensive
meats like ribeye would only be allowed when on sale.

As it is, people can buy steaks, jumbo prawns, and lobster on food
stamps.

On Oct 5, 5:38*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> I don't buy those chickens very often, maybe a dozen during my
> lifetime, however every one was overly salty... they're heavily
> salted/seasoned because they're the birds that their sell-by date
> passed. *

Where did you get that idea?

The chickens you see cooked like that were not for sale at the meat
counter and then cooked. They come in, already seasoned, specifically
to be cooked and sold that way. We get ours in on a daily basis, and
sell 6-10 cases most days, more if they are on sale. We have never had
a raw chicken get past its pull date. A cooked chicken has to be
pulled within 4 hours of being cooked. We will use it for chicken
salad, where it has a 3 day pull date.

Nothing can be used past its pull date. We can be fired for that.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 05/10/2010 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I
>>> recieved food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the
>>> cookies, chips and junk food you could ever want... but if the
>>> grocery store had a soup and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto
>>> things like rotisserie chickens prepared at the store. For about
>>> $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a family of four for three
>>> days. And with careful planning could turn into chicken soup I'll
>>> never understand the restrictions.
>
>> Rotisserie chicken,
>> OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. It usually doesn't cost much
>> more for a cooked chicken than for a raw one.
>
> You'd think because if someone is on food stamps, it's not out of the
> question they might be lacking in decent cooking appliances, too. I think
> a rotisserie chicken would be ideal.
>
That too! But no, it wasn't allowed on the food stamp program.

>> I keep telling my son that he should be picking up rotisserie
>> chickens. Until he moved last week he didn't have great cooking
>> facilities. He could pick up a chicken on his way home and get 3 or 4
>> meals out of it. Those things are great hot or cold.
>
> Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you have
> a good source nearby. It was a handy dinner back when I was working.
>
I never noticed over-salting, but then again I like salt. In fact, I crave
it. Give me salty potato chips over chocolate any day

Jill

"LG" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> "Arri London" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> An advert is running locally complaining about proposed taxes on junk
>>> food. All well and good; it's probably sponsored by the companies who
>>> make soft drinks/sports drinks/flavoured waters.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it starts with a woman whining that it's hard enough to
>>> feed a family these days. Of course it is. However, buying
>>> sugary-artificially-flavoured-coloured drinks must cost her hard-driven
>>> family quite a lot of money. If her food budget is that tight, wouldn't
>>> it make more sense *not* to buy those things, taxed or otherwise?
>>
>>
>>
>> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I recieved
>> food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the cookies, chips
>> and junk food you could ever want... but if the grocery store had a soup
>> and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto things like rotisserie
>> chickens prepared at the store. For about $4.99, one of those chickens
>> could feed a family of four for three days. And with careful planning
>> could turn into chicken soup I'll never understand the restrictions.
>>
>> Jill
> I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you denied receiving food stamps
> about the same time you said you didn't drink much.



LG, I don't know what your problem is with me but GET OVER IT. I never
denied receiving food stamps. If you'd bother to GOOGLE (since you
apparently have so much time on your hands and are obsessed with me) you'd
know WTF you're talking about.

Jill

I agree with the oversalty comments. If you rip this bird up, though,t here are many things you can do to make it last and use the excess saltiness as a spice in rice, noodles, couscous, quinoa, salad. Use the carcass for soup. Good value at $5 a pop; but I think you get more out of cooking your own. Still, many don't have the cookware and the like to get that done. I would say, though, that many folks would be well-served to learn some cooking skills. With cooking skills comes shopping skills and nutritional knowledge. If you live off of poptarts, grape drink , mac 'n cheese and cheeseballs, you'll have issues. I can handle a person poisoning themself, but one would think those who have children would strive a bit longer for their well-being.

On Oct 5, 6:00*pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 05/10/2010 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I
> >> recieved food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the
> >> cookies, chips and junk food you could ever want... but if the
> >> grocery store had a soup and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto
> >> things like rotisserie chickens prepared at the store. For about
> >> $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a family of four for three
> >> days. And with careful planning could turn into chicken soup I'll
> >> never understand the restrictions.
> > Rotisserie chicken,
> > OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. *It usually doesn't cost much
> > more for a cooked chicken than for a raw one.
>
> You'd think because if someone is on food stamps, it's not
> out of the question they might be lacking in decent cooking
> appliances, too. *I think a rotisserie chicken would be ideal.
>
> > I keep telling my son that he should be picking up rotisserie
> > chickens. Until he moved last week he didn't have great cooking
> > facilities. He could pick up a chicken on his way home and get 3 or 4
> > meals out of it. Those things are great hot or cold.
>
> Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you have
> a good source nearby. *It was a handy dinner back when I was
> working.
>
> nancy

Good is not the word I'd use for my experience with those Rot-
chickens. I've picked them up two times, and both times, they were so
dry half was inedible. Even if they had been moist and flavorful,
they would never make 3-4 dinners for a family of four! Two-three
servings is about it, IMO, and that's stretching it with miminal
serving size.

N.

On Oct 6, 12:42*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 05/10/2010 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I
> >>> recieved food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the
> >>> cookies, chips and junk food you could ever want... but if the
> >>> grocery store had a soup and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto
> >>> things like rotisserie chickens prepared at the store. For about
> >>> $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a family of four for three
> >>> days. And with careful planning could turn into chicken soup I'll
> >>> never understand the restrictions.
>
> >> Rotisserie chicken,
> >> OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. *It usually doesn't cost much
> >> more for a cooked chicken than for a raw one.
>
> > You'd think because if someone is on food stamps, it's not out of the
> > question they might be lacking in decent cooking appliances, too. *I think
> > a rotisserie chicken would be ideal.
>
> That too! *But no, it wasn't allowed on the food stamp program.
>
> >> I keep telling my son that he should be picking up rotisserie
> >> chickens. Until he moved last week he didn't have great cooking
> >> facilities. He could pick up a chicken on his way home and get 3 or 4
> >> meals out of it. Those things are great hot or cold.
>
> > Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you have
> > a good source nearby. *It was a handy dinner back when I was working.
>
> I never noticed over-salting, but then again I like salt. *In fact, I crave
> it. *Give me salty potato chips over chocolate any day
>
> Jill- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Salty chips and chocolate together is even better. LOL.

N.

On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:38:25 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 19:00:21 -0400, "Nancy Young"
> > wrote:

>>
>>Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you have
>>a good source nearby. It was a handy dinner back when I was
>>working.
>
> I don't buy those chickens very often, maybe a dozen during my
> lifetime, however every one was overly salty... they're heavily
> salted/seasoned because they're the birds that their sell-by date
> passed. And they are no real bargain except in prep time. A 3lb raw
> weight rotisseried fryer costs $5 on sale, those scrawny birds are not
> nearly enough to feed two hungry adults or one hungry teenager.
> Rotisseried chicken from the deli serves a purpose when one is out of
> time and didn't plan well at home. I know they are not primo when my
> cats won't eat any.

i hear your cats are now writing restaurant reviews.

blake

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 21:07:11 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> On Oct 5, 5:38*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> I don't buy those chickens very often, maybe a dozen during my
>> lifetime, however every one was overly salty... they're heavily
>> salted/seasoned because they're the birds that their sell-by date
>> passed. *
>
> Where did you get that idea?

where does sheldon get any of his ideas? directly from his ass.

your pal,
blake

jmcquown wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you
>> have
>> a good source nearby. It was a handy dinner back when I was working.
>>
> I never noticed over-salting, but then again I like salt. In fact, I
> crave it. Give me salty potato chips over chocolate any day

I don't mind salt, either, but sometimes it can be overwhelming.
For some reason I don't know, my mil wasn't supposed to have
high sodium foods and she'd get rotisserie chickens from this
supermarket that were really too much. I got her some
Mrs. Dash lemon pepper so she could just cook up her own
low sodium birds, but you know those 80 year olds, stubborn.

nancy

On 05/10/2010 7:00 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Rotisserie chicken,
>> OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. It usually doesn't cost much
>> more for a cooked chicken than for a raw one.
>
> You'd think because if someone is on food stamps, it's not out of the
> question they might be lacking in decent cooking appliances, too. I
> think a rotisserie chicken would be ideal.

There's that to it to. People in that position might not have a fridge
large enough to store a chicken or an oven and pan to roast it.


>
>> I keep telling my son that he should be picking up rotisserie
>> chickens. Until he moved last week he didn't have great cooking
>> facilities. He could pick up a chicken on his way home and get 3 or 4
>> meals out of it. Those things are great hot or cold.
>
> Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you have
> a good source nearby. It was a handy dinner back when I was working.

I have bought maybe a dozen of them over the years. I have always been
impressed with them. Salty, but never too salty.

Nancy2 wrote:
> On Oct 6, 12:42 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:

>> I never noticed over-salting, but then again I like salt. In fact, I
>> crave it. Give me salty potato chips over chocolate any day

> Salty chips and chocolate together is even better. LOL.

And salted caramels! Heh. I feel an order from Box Hill coming on,
I've been having a craving.

nancy

On 10/6/2010 1:14 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you
>>> have a good source nearby. It was a handy dinner back when I was
>>> working.
>>>
>> I never noticed over-salting, but then again I like salt. In fact, I
>> crave it. Give me salty potato chips over chocolate any day
>
> I don't mind salt, either, but sometimes it can be overwhelming.
> For some reason I don't know, my mil wasn't supposed to have
> high sodium foods and she'd get rotisserie chickens from this
> supermarket that were really too much. I got her some Mrs. Dash lemon
> pepper so she could just cook up her own
> low sodium birds, but you know those 80 year olds, stubborn.
>
> nancy

I've been off sodium for thirty years but occasionally I crave some
anyway. Generally I get all I need from food, everything on earth has
salt in it.

There is no other food as good as chocolate, I'm just not allowed to
have all of that that I might crave. My idea of heaven would be to be
allowed to eat all the chocolate I want.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:32:08 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>The salad bar and hot chicken are not allowed because they are
>considered luxery items like a restaurant. Oddly, we are allowed to
>sell the same chicken on food stamps once it is put out as cold. But
>we are breaking the law if we sell the hot one on food stamps or heat
>a cold one that was sold on food stamps.
>
>Personally, I would rather see a restriction based on price per pound.
>That way, meats at a good price would be okay, but really expensive
>meats like ribeye would only be allowed when on sale.
>
>As it is, people can buy steaks, jumbo prawns, and lobster on food
>stamps.

They can but rarely do they... they'd reach their dollar amount before
they bought their essentials. I know that there are plenty of food
stamp scammers but the majority are people just trying to survive. And
I see plenty of them at the market... the government agencies would do
them a far greater justice providing them with *appropriate* training
and a J O B... I can't understand this concept of
lifetime/generational dole... well, yes I can, the entitlement
parasites get to vote too.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I can understand the soup and salad bar, since the stamps (I thought)
> are supposed to help pay for groceries, and a salad bar is a pretty
> expensive way to eat salad (around here anyway). Rotisserie chicken,
> OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. It usually doesn't cost much more
> for a cooked chicken than for a raw one. I bought one about a month ago
> when I was shopping in a family owned grocery that usually has excellent
> deals on chicken. I had already picked up several small chickens,
> breasts and legs, and then happened to spot a rotisserie chicken for
> IIRC $5.14.. Hell. That was dinner for that night.

For the two of us a Costco chicken will make two meals and some of the
time we will keep the bones and back to make stock for soup. Home made
stock is better than canned and a rotisserie chicken is an easy starting
point for semi-home-made stock.

" wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I don't buy those chickens very often, maybe a dozen during my
>> lifetime, however every one was overly salty... they're heavily
>> salted/seasoned because they're the birds that their sell-by date
>> passed. *
>
>Where did you get that idea?
>
>The chickens you see cooked like that were not for sale at the meat
>counter and then cooked. They come in, already seasoned, specifically
>to be cooked and sold that way. We get ours in on a daily basis, and
>sell 6-10 cases most days, more if they are on sale. We have never had
>a raw chicken get past its pull date.

There are companies that collect those pulled chickens from many
sources and prep them for rotisserie etc. by the thousands, then
supply delis and such... it wouldn't pay for a stupidmarket to count
on a few measly chickens not selling each day. Anyone who believes
that food retailers trashcan meat past its pull date is not playing
with a full deck. Many years ago I spent a few months working in
Brooklyn's Fort Green Meat Market preparing food for a chain named
Chicken Delight... all the chickens that we seasoned, trussed, and
packed into plastic bags to be sent to their various locations for
cooking were those that had passed their sell-by date at some meat
department. Restaurants buy up those "used" meats too.

>A cooked chicken has to be
>pulled within 4 hours of being cooked. We will use it for chicken
>salad, where it has a 3 day pull date.

Three day olde chicken salad is disgusting... deli salads are pretty
disgusting right after being prepared, but three days old... gack!

You can't defend your deli practices to me, I have very personal
knowledge of all the gory details... and if you prep food like you
trim posts you should be incarcerated for biological terrorism...
sheesh, three day old chicken salad... you FILTHY FRIESIAN ****!

George Shirley wrote:
> On 10/6/2010 1:14 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> I don't mind salt, either, but sometimes it can be overwhelming.
>> For some reason I don't know, my mil wasn't supposed to have
>> high sodium foods and she'd get rotisserie chickens from this
>> supermarket that were really too much. I got her some Mrs. Dash lemon
>> pepper so she could just cook up her own
>> low sodium birds, but you know those 80 year olds, stubborn.

> I've been off sodium for thirty years but occasionally I crave some
> anyway.

Oh, I hear ya. I was just kidding around about my mil, she just
gave up on cooking and really couldn't be bothered. I don't
know if she craved salt or not, just this one supermarket, yowsa
those were some salty birds.

Frankly, with her very low blood pressure that led to fainting,
I don't really know why she was told to lay off the salt. If she
liked her salty birds, that's okay with me.

> Generally I get all I need from food, everything on earth has
> salt in it.
>
> There is no other food as good as chocolate, I'm just not allowed to
> have all of that that I might crave. My idea of heaven would be to be
> allowed to eat all the chocolate I want.

Now that's a darned shame. I hope you at least get a bite now
and then.

nancy

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 01:42:51 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 05/10/2010 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I
>>>> recieved food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the
>>>> cookies, chips and junk food you could ever want... but if the
>>>> grocery store had a soup and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto
>>>> things like rotisserie chickens prepared at the store. For about
>>>> $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a family of four for three
>>>> days. And with careful planning could turn into chicken soup I'll
>>>> never understand the restrictions.
>>
>>> Rotisserie chicken,
>>> OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. It usually doesn't cost much
>>> more for a cooked chicken than for a raw one.
>>
>> You'd think because if someone is on food stamps, it's not out of the
>> question they might be lacking in decent cooking appliances, too. I think
>> a rotisserie chicken would be ideal.
>>
>That too! But no, it wasn't allowed on the food stamp program.
>
>>> I keep telling my son that he should be picking up rotisserie
>>> chickens. Until he moved last week he didn't have great cooking
>>> facilities. He could pick up a chicken on his way home and get 3 or 4
>>> meals out of it. Those things are great hot or cold.
>>
>> Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you have
>> a good source nearby. It was a handy dinner back when I was working.
>>
>I never noticed over-salting, but then again I like salt. In fact, I crave
>it. Give me salty potato chips over chocolate any day
>
>Jill

A lot of folks don't think those deli rotisserie chickens are salty
because they eat potato chips and many other overly salted foods, they
are used to salt. And besides the salt those rotisserie chickens are
also excessively fatty, they don't trim the superfluous fat, in fact
they are not even cleaned inside, usually still have guts hanging. By
the time you get them home to eat they have reabsorbed the rendered
fat... rotisserie cooking holds more fat than rack roasting, the fat
just keeps basting as it spins, very little drips off, that's why
rotisseried meat tastes so good, it's the least healthful cooking
method.

On 06/10/2010 3:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> A lot of folks don't think those deli rotisserie chickens are salty
> because they eat potato chips and many other overly salted foods, they
> are used to salt.


Oh poppycock. I have never had a problem with them being over salted.
I will confess to have having a small bag of potato chips last Saturday
after our fund raising walkathon. It was one of those tiny packs with
about a dozen chips. I can't remember the last time that i bought a bag
of chips. I buy maybe two bags of Doritos per year. I am not a salted
junk food fan and the rotisseries birds are not over salted.



> And besides the salt those rotisserie chickens are
> also excessively fatty, they don't trim the superfluous fat, in fact
> they are not even cleaned inside, usually still have guts hanging.

Okay. You are starting to spray the drool now.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 07:11:31 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Oct 5, 6:00*pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> > On 05/10/2010 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> >> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I
>> >> recieved food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the
>> >> cookies, chips and junk food you could ever want... but if the
>> >> grocery store had a soup and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that! Ditto
>> >> things like rotisserie chickens prepared at the store. For about
>> >> $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a family of four for three
>> >> days. And with careful planning could turn into chicken soup I'll
>> >> never understand the restrictions.
>> > Rotisserie chicken,
>> > OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. *It usually doesn't cost much
>> > more for a cooked chicken than for a raw one.
>>
>> You'd think because if someone is on food stamps, it's not
>> out of the question they might be lacking in decent cooking
>> appliances, too. *I think a rotisserie chicken would be ideal.
>>
>> > I keep telling my son that he should be picking up rotisserie
>> > chickens. Until he moved last week he didn't have great cooking
>> > facilities. He could pick up a chicken on his way home and get 3 or 4
>> > meals out of it. Those things are great hot or cold.
>>
>> Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you have
>> a good source nearby. *It was a handy dinner back when I was
>> working.
>>
>> nancy
>
>Good is not the word I'd use for my experience with those Rot-
>chickens. I've picked them up two times, and both times, they were so
>dry half was inedible. Even if they had been moist and flavorful,
>they would never make 3-4 dinners for a family of four! Two-three
>servings is about it, IMO, and that's stretching it with miminal
>serving size.

I've never had one I'd call dry, they were too fatty to be dry, but
they definitely won't feed more than two adults or one hungry teen.
The last time I bought deli rotisserie chicken was more than five
years ago, they were on sale at the Price Chopper stupidmarket, $7 for
two... I bought the two. They were too salty, my cats wouldn't eat
any and they love chicken... I was hungry from not eating all day so
ate about half of one and tossed all the rest into the yard, crows
will eat anything. I drank a lot of diet cherry soda that evening,
finished one 2 liter bottle and opened another. I doubt I will ever
eat those stupid chickens again. The only times I ever bought them
was an impulse purchase. I should know better, I never eat chicken
out, I've never been to a KFC, I've no idea how it tastes and reallhy
don't want to know, I abhor breaded chicken, grease city... the
closest I come to breaded chicken at home is to remove the skin and
then lightly batter n'bake. I like crisp chicken skin but coated it's
never crisp.

On 06/10/2010 2:53 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I can understand the soup and salad bar, since the stamps (I thought)
>> are supposed to help pay for groceries, and a salad bar is a pretty
>> expensive way to eat salad (around here anyway). Rotisserie chicken,
>> OTOH, is usually a pretty good deal. It usually doesn't cost much more
>> for a cooked chicken than for a raw one. I bought one about a month ago
>> when I was shopping in a family owned grocery that usually has excellent
>> deals on chicken. I had already picked up several small chickens,
>> breasts and legs, and then happened to spot a rotisserie chicken for
>> IIRC $5.14.. Hell. That was dinner for that night.
>
> For the two of us a Costco chicken will make two meals and some of the
> time we will keep the bones and back to make stock for soup. Home made
> stock is better than canned and a rotisserie chicken is an easy starting
> point for semi-home-made stock.


When we get one my wife and I usually have hot roasted chicken for
dinner than night and there is enough left for chicken sandwiches or
chicken salad for a light dinner later.


How can you turn down a $5 roasted chicken? How can they call it a luxury?

Nancy2 wrote:
> On Oct 5, 6:00 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>> Some places, they really over-salt the chickens, it's nice if you
>> have a good source nearby. It was a handy dinner back when I was
>> working.

> Good is not the word I'd use for my experience with those Rot-
> chickens. I've picked them up two times, and both times, they were so
> dry half was inedible. Even if they had been moist and flavorful,
> they would never make 3-4 dinners for a family of four! Two-three
> servings is about it, IMO, and that's stretching it with miminal
> serving size.

That would perfectly describe a couple of chickens I've had over
the years. Just as well as it kept me from getting them very
often, like never for a long time.

But then I got one from Whole Foods once that was really very
good, and since then I've gotten a couple from Costco and from
this other place nearby that I really can't complain about. Those
places weren't around when I was working, though.

nancy

jmcquown wrote:
> "LG" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> "Arri London" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> An advert is running locally complaining about proposed taxes on junk
>>>> food. All well and good; it's probably sponsored by the companies who
>>>> make soft drinks/sports drinks/flavoured waters.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it starts with a woman whining that it's hard enough to
>>>> feed a family these days. Of course it is. However, buying
>>>> sugary-artificially-flavoured-coloured drinks must cost her
>>>> hard-driven
>>>> family quite a lot of money. If her food budget is that tight,
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> it make more sense *not* to buy those things, taxed or otherwise?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the one thing I never understood about the brief time I
>>> recieved food stamps. The food stamps would pay for sodas, all the
>>> cookies, chips and junk food you could ever want... but if the
>>> grocery store had a soup and salad bar NO! Won't pay for that!
>>> Ditto things like rotisserie chickens prepared at the store. For
>>> about $4.99, one of those chickens could feed a family of four for
>>> three days. And with careful planning could turn into chicken soup
>>> I'll never understand the restrictions.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you denied receiving food
>> stamps about the same time you said you didn't drink much.
>
>
>
> LG, I don't know what your problem is with me but GET OVER IT. I
> never denied receiving food stamps. If you'd bother to GOOGLE (since
> you apparently have so much time on your hands and are obsessed with
> me) you'd know WTF you're talking about.
>
> Jill
So you admit you are a heavy drinker. I heard that 2nd hand from a very
reliable source.

> wrote
> Personally, I would rather see a restriction based on price per pound.
> That way, meats at a good price would be okay, but really expensive
> meats like ribeye would only be allowed when on sale.
>
> As it is, people can buy steaks, jumbo prawns, and lobster on food
> stamps.
>

I'm not sure how I feel about that. While a person needing assistance
should be seeking the best values, should the government tell an 80 year old
lady she can't have a lobster on her birthday? Especially since she has
been eating cat food until the check comes in.

I'm sure that many of those steaks you see bought are traded for beer and
cigarettes too. It is very easy to abuse the system.

"Dave Smith" > wrote
>
> Oh poppycock. I have never had a problem with them being over salted.
> stuff snipped
I am not a salted
> junk food fan and the rotisseries birds are not over salted.

Let me get this straight, since the chickens in your local markets are not
over salted, every chicken in North America on a rotisserie (regardless of
supplier) is not over salted.

Thanks, I'll let the others know that.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 23:01:16 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote
>>
>> Oh poppycock. I have never had a problem with them being over salted.
>> stuff snipped
> I am not a salted
>> junk food fan and the rotisseries birds are not over salted.
>
>Let me get this straight, since the chickens in your local markets are not
>over salted, every chicken in North America on a rotisserie (regardless of
>supplier) is not over salted.
>
>Thanks, I'll let the others know that.

I've never eaten any prepared food from any deli that wasn't heavily
salted... selling salty food is why it's called a deli. Next time I
go to a deli I'm gonna ask for Dave's low salt potato salad. lol

On 06/10/2010 11:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote
>>
>> Oh poppycock. I have never had a problem with them being over salted.
>> stuff snipped
> I am not a salted
>> junk food fan and the rotisseries birds are not over salted.
>
> Let me get this straight, since the chickens in your local markets are
> not over salted, every chicken in North America on a rotisserie
> (regardless of supplier) is not over salted.
>
> Thanks, I'll let the others know that.

I was responding to Sheldon's claim that the people who don't think it
is too salty are the people who eat salty potato chips.

Being able to get nicely seasoned chickens here does not mean that every
outlet in North America does not over salt theirs. Similarly, a few
people here getting over salted chickens does not mean that all of the
are over salted.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:15:37 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

> George Shirley wrote:
>> On 10/6/2010 1:14 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> I don't mind salt, either, but sometimes it can be overwhelming.
>>> For some reason I don't know, my mil wasn't supposed to have
>>> high sodium foods and she'd get rotisserie chickens from this
>>> supermarket that were really too much. I got her some Mrs. Dash lemon
>>> pepper so she could just cook up her own
>>> low sodium birds, but you know those 80 year olds, stubborn.
>
>> I've been off sodium for thirty years but occasionally I crave some
>> anyway.
>
> Oh, I hear ya. I was just kidding around about my mil, she just
> gave up on cooking and really couldn't be bothered. I don't
> know if she craved salt or not, just this one supermarket, yowsa
> those were some salty birds.
>
> Frankly, with her very low blood pressure that led to fainting,
> I don't really know why she was told to lay off the salt. If she
> liked her salty birds, that's okay with me.

if she lived to be eighty eating whatever the hell she was eating, why
change now?

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 23:01:16 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> "Dave Smith" > wrote
>>
>> Oh poppycock. I have never had a problem with them being over salted.
>> stuff snipped
> I am not a salted
>> junk food fan and the rotisseries birds are not over salted.
>
> Let me get this straight, since the chickens in your local markets are not
> over salted, every chicken in North America on a rotisserie (regardless of
> supplier) is not over salted.
>
> Thanks, I'll let the others know that.

no, i think the point was that sheldon is full of shit, as usual.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 22:52:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> > wrote
>> Personally, I would rather see a restriction based on price per pound.
>> That way, meats at a good price would be okay, but really expensive
>> meats like ribeye would only be allowed when on sale.
>>
>> As it is, people can buy steaks, jumbo prawns, and lobster on food
>> stamps.
>>
>
> I'm not sure how I feel about that. While a person needing assistance
> should be seeking the best values, should the government tell an 80 year old
> lady she can't have a lobster on her birthday? Especially since she has
> been eating cat food until the check comes in.

well, you see, poor people have to know their place and not think they can
eat like people with money every once in a while. they're poor, damn it!
jebus doesn't love them!

> I'm sure that many of those steaks you see bought are traded for beer and
> cigarettes too. It is very easy to abuse the system.
>

any system can be abused. i would be totally amazed if the abuse of the
tax system by the rich did not result in losses to government exponentially
larger than the poor schmucks putting one over on the ag. dept. hell,
large farmers probably net more.

your pal,
blake

The the contrary, where I live. WalMart's two competitors around here have much less salt on theirs; though they cost a buck more per bird, they are worth it. They also get their chickens from a local farm.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:15:37 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Frankly, with her very low blood pressure that led to fainting,
>> I don't really know why she was told to lay off the salt. If she
>> liked her salty birds, that's okay with me.
>
> if she lived to be eighty eating whatever the hell she was eating, why
> change now?

Got me, but she was one to listen to the doctor. She didn't eat
much at all, she weighed next to nothing, let her have her food
the way she likes it.

But don't get in between her with a fork, and a piece of cake,
you could get hurt. Not like it put any weight on her, I don't
think she weighed 80 pounds.

nancy

On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 15:19:18 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:15:37 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> Frankly, with her very low blood pressure that led to fainting,
>>> I don't really know why she was told to lay off the salt. If she
>>> liked her salty birds, that's okay with me.
>>
>> if she lived to be eighty eating whatever the hell she was eating, why
>> change now?
>
> Got me, but she was one to listen to the doctor. She didn't eat
> much at all, she weighed next to nothing, let her have her food
> the way she likes it.
>
> But don't get in between her with a fork, and a piece of cake,
> you could get hurt. Not like it put any weight on her, I don't
> think she weighed 80 pounds.
>
> nancy

that's the thing: if you have someone who's not eating much of anything,
it makes no sense to tell them 'don't eat that thing you actually eat.'

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 15:19:18 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Got me, but she was one to listen to the doctor. She didn't eat
>> much at all, she weighed next to nothing, let her have her food
>> the way she likes it.
>>
>> But don't get in between her with a fork, and a piece of cake,
>> you could get hurt. Not like it put any weight on her, I don't
>> think she weighed 80 pounds.

> that's the thing: if you have someone who's not eating much of
> anything, it makes no sense to tell them 'don't eat that thing you
> actually eat.'

Got me, I'd think you'd want to let her eat what she wants at
her age and her weight. But I wasn't involved with her health care
and I don't know what medications she was on.

nancy