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On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:34:34 -0600, Arri London >
wrote: I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why not? -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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![]() sf wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:34:34 -0600, Arri London > > wrote: > > I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why > not? > Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() |
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On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:19:04 -0600, Arri London >
wrote: > > >sf wrote: >> >> On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:34:34 -0600, Arri London > >> wrote: >> >> I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why >> not? >> > > >Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() Guava paste with Manchego cheese is absolutely wonderful. When I have been bereft of guava paste, a good jam or marmalade is a great substitute. I hope you try it sometime. koko -- Food is our common ground, a universal experience James Beard www.kokoscornerblog.com updated 10/04/10 Watkins natural spices www.apinchofspices.com |
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Arri London wrote:
>sf wrote: >>Arri London wrote: >> >> I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why >> not? > >Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() Why, jam is fruit... fruit is usually served with cheese and no rule says it must be fresh fruit. And many cheeses lend themselves to jams particularly well; cottage cheese, pot cheese, farmer cheese, and of course cream cheese. And many cheeses are eaten with crackers and for many the crackers/toasts are spread with jam and then eaten along with cheese and spirits are drunk as well... what's a wine and cheese without crackers, and cooked fruit is a more natural accompaniment for crackers/toasts than fresh fruit... my family consumed a lot of compote, we all had an array of fruit trees. It's really all a matter of what's traditional for each. I prefer jams with cheese and crackers/bread to fresh fruit... but for me when I grew up that was traditional breakfast fare along with a lot of other viands that many today wouldn't think of eating at all... folks from Latvia also ate a lot of smoked/pickled fish for breakfast, I'm sure still I'd kill for the matjes herring available then, today it's crap, not even herring... and also drank vodka and/or schnapps for breakfast, with tea or coffee, mostly tea brewed in an ornate samovar... my grandfather would finish a 16 ounce glass of straight vodka along with a 16 ounce glass of caviar as an appetizer before breakfast... the caviar he ate (I've no idea which) was in the 16 ounce glasses he used to drink vodka or tea... it was a tall tapered glass. We ate wedges from huge loaves of Russian black bread and corn bread, not cornbread... dense with chewy crust a 1/2" thick that my grandmother baked every morning, the loaves proofed in bed with her under the down comforter, she had special linen proofing sacks, bread would be in the coal stove oven by 4 AM, a loaf weighed a good five pounds. She baked six loaves every day. She and my grandfather operated a tourist home here in the Catskills... today called a B & B. Their tourist home is long gone, the property was donated to the town and is now a park commemorating them... they fed and housed a lot of indigents, even if they had to sleep in a hallway on a pallet. |
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On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:19:04 -0600, Arri London >
wrote: > > > sf wrote: > > > > On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:34:34 -0600, Arri London > > > wrote: > > > > I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why > > not? > > > > > Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() A few weeks ago on TV, Lidia Bastianich showed a huge platter of cheeses with various accompaniments - two of them were jam and honey, nuts were another and I don't remember the rest. A restaurant example is Absinthe, SF http://www.absinthe.com/menus.php open the dinner menu and read the cheese selections. -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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![]() "Arri London" > ha scritto nel messaggio > sf wrote: >> I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why >> not? >> > > > Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() But it isn't. It is quite common as an antipasto or dessert here in central Italy. We often make preserves specific to the purpose, like red onion jam, squash jam, spicy chili pepper peach, and honey is also very prized for the same course. |
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![]() "Giusi" > wrote in message ... > > "Arri London" > ha scritto nel messaggio >> sf wrote: > >>> I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why >>> not? >>> >> >> >> Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() > > But it isn't. It is quite common as an antipasto or dessert here in > central Italy. We often make preserves specific to the purpose, like red > onion jam, squash jam, spicy chili pepper peach, and honey is also very > prized for the same course. Cheese goes beautifully with fruit cake and with apple pie too! -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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![]() "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message 5.247... > On Fri 08 Oct 2010 03:40:15a, Ophelia told us... > >> >> >> "Giusi" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> "Arri London" > ha scritto nel messaggio >>>> sf wrote: >>> >>>>> I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so >>>>> why not? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() >>> >>> But it isn't. It is quite common as an antipasto or dessert here >>> in central Italy. We often make preserves specific to the >>> purpose, like red onion jam, squash jam, spicy chili pepper >>> peach, and honey is also very prized for the same course. >> >> Cheese goes beautifully with fruit cake and with apple pie too! > > I've nver tried it with fruitcake, but my mother would often put a > slice of cheese on top of a cold slice of apple pie, then slip it > under the broiler until the cheese was beginning to bubble. > Delicious! Yum ![]() using cheese pastry for apple pie ![]() I don't know if you have Christmas/fruit cakes? Well, I tend not to ice/frost mine. I bake them and store them, feeding them with alcohol <hic> for a few months after baking. A slice of that is wonderful with a cheese. Try it and I bet you will become hooked ![]() -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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![]() "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message 5.250... > On Fri 08 Oct 2010 07:46:38a, Ophelia told us... > >> >> >> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >> 5.247... >>> On Fri 08 Oct 2010 03:40:15a, Ophelia told us... >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Giusi" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> "Arri London" > ha scritto nel messaggio >>>>>> sf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, >>>>>>> so why not? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() >>>>> >>>>> But it isn't. It is quite common as an antipasto or dessert >>>>> here in central Italy. We often make preserves specific to the >>>>> purpose, like red onion jam, squash jam, spicy chili pepper >>>>> peach, and honey is also very prized for the same course. >>>> >>>> Cheese goes beautifully with fruit cake and with apple pie too! >>> >>> I've nver tried it with fruitcake, but my mother would often put >>> a slice of cheese on top of a cold slice of apple pie, then slip >>> it under the broiler until the cheese was beginning to bubble. >>> Delicious! >> >> Yum ![]() >> seen recipes using cheese pastry for apple pie ![]() > > Many years ago I had an apple pie recipe that has cheddar cheese in > the bottom crust and a crumb topping. About ten minutes before it > was done, cream was poured into the top. I wish I still had that > recipe, though I suppose I could wing it. > >> I don't know if you have Christmas/fruit cakes? Well, I tend not >> to ice/frost mine. I bake them and store them, feeding them with >> alcohol <hic> for a few months after baking. >> >> A slice of that is wonderful with a cheese. Try it and I bet you >> will become hooked ![]() >> > > I am without fruit cake this year, but our family always had a dark > fruitcake that was treated the same as yours. Both my mother and I > would bake fruit cake after the Christmas holidays for the next > Christmas. We baked them so early because it's difficult to find > candied or glacéed fruit in the US except around the holidays. > > The next time I have a cake I will try it with cheese. This year, > though, we will probably be in the throes of moving around the > holidays, so probably won't get a chance to bake one. Well, good luck with the move! -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:36:00 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote: > I've nver tried it with fruitcake, but my mother would often put a > slice of cheese on top of a cold slice of apple pie, then slip it > under the broiler until the cheese was beginning to bubble. > Delicious! I think hot apple pie with sharp cheddar is old fashioned and traditional. I'd rather have my cheddar with tart raw apples, but that's me. -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message news ![]() > On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:36:00 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > > wrote: > >> I've nver tried it with fruitcake, but my mother would often put a >> slice of cheese on top of a cold slice of apple pie, then slip it >> under the broiler until the cheese was beginning to bubble. >> Delicious! > > I think hot apple pie with sharp cheddar is old fashioned and > traditional. I'd rather have my cheddar with tart raw apples, but > that's me. Your tastes have a fashion????? -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:57:54 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > > "sf" > wrote in message > news ![]() > > On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:36:00 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > > > wrote: > > > >> I've nver tried it with fruitcake, but my mother would often put a > >> slice of cheese on top of a cold slice of apple pie, then slip it > >> under the broiler until the cheese was beginning to bubble. > >> Delicious! > > > > I think hot apple pie with sharp cheddar is old fashioned and > > traditional. I'd rather have my cheddar with tart raw apples, but > > that's me. > > Your tastes have a fashion????? > -- I guess you could put it that way. My grandparents did it, none of my contemporaries or children's friends (that I know of) do it. -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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![]() koko wrote: > > On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:19:04 -0600, Arri London > > wrote: > > > > > > >sf wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:34:34 -0600, Arri London > > >> wrote: > >> > >> I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why > >> not? > >> > > > > > >Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() > > Guava paste with Manchego cheese is absolutely wonderful. When I have > been bereft of guava paste, a good jam or marmalade is a great > substitute. > I hope you try it sometime. > > koko > -- BTDT and didn't like it at all ![]() cheese. |
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![]() Giusi wrote: > > "Arri London" > ha scritto nel messaggio > > sf wrote: > > >> I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why > >> not? > >> > > > > > > Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() > > But it isn't. It is quite common as an antipasto or dessert here in central > Italy. We often make preserves specific to the purpose, like red onion jam, > squash jam, spicy chili pepper peach, and honey is also very prized for the > same course. *Savoury* jams/preserves I can visualise with some cheeses. But not sweet. Cream cheese and honey or chile jam (which I don't make very sweet anyway), yes. Apparently there are no receptors in my brain for sweet+cheese LOL. |
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Arri London wrote:
>Giusi wrote: >> "Arri London" wrote: >> > sf wrote: >> >> >> I've seen jam and honey accompany cheese on a cheese plate, so why >> >> not? >> > >> > Where did you see that? Sounds dreadful ![]() >> >> But it isn't. It is quite common as an antipasto or dessert here in central >> Italy. We often make preserves specific to the purpose, like red onion jam, >> squash jam, spicy chili pepper peach, and honey is also very prized for the >> same course. > >*Savoury* jams/preserves I can visualise with some cheeses. But not >sweet. Cream cheese and honey or chile jam (which I don't make very >sweet anyway), yes. > >Apparently there are no receptors in my brain for sweet+cheese LOL. You never ate cheese danishes (cherry-cheese, pineapple-cheese, blueberry-cheese, etc.)... canoli: http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,191,...224197,00.html I won't even mention cheese cake. |
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